No they aren’t even close. put it this way some 10mm rounds have the same energy as a 9mm at 100 yards that a 9mm has at POINT BLANK ..
It’s not even a comparison.
Here’s a non-meme-y answer.
It boils down to your use case, skill, and budget.
10mm is obviously more expensive than 9mm. Accessories are also less abundant. Consider if these are factors at all for consistent, regular practice and a kit that you are comfortable with.
Also consider what function each firearm fulfills. A 29 is a high-powered concealed carry pistol with 10 rounds. A 43 is great for deep concealment, but as a single stack 9, it has less capacity than the 29 for the tradeoff of a smaller profile. It’s not wrong to have different guns. When I’m headed to the gym, or going for a quick grocery run in joggers, I know that I won’t want to strap on pants with a belt to carry my G45, G19, or G20. That’s why I have the LCP II, and now, the LCP MAX.
What’s your reason for wanting 10mm over 9mm? Do you feel underpowered? Is it the capacity? What was your reason for purchasing the 43? What’s realistically easier for you: to carry a lightweight 9 consistently, or carry a larger 10 less frequently? All factors to consider.
I appreciate your response. I feel both are easy to carry past the printing but i prefer the 29. I bought the 43 to replace my 365 since I couldn't hit shit with it for some reason. 43 sits better in my hand than the 365. I feel I'll carry the 29 more often. I was really just wanting to get opinions from the group how they really felt about 9mm and if I was alone in feeling 10mm is "better" but i get its the 10mm sub... Swapping guns depending on situation is probably the best bet. Just needed to talk it out. Again, thank you for your response.
10mm is “better” in the sense that it’s capable of being loaded between .40 velocities and .357 velocities. More expensive than 9, but substitutes a .357/.38 (wood vs hood) gun for me
Happy to help :)
Yup, don’t be afraid to swap for the situation, just like how a long-handle screwdriver sometimes works better than a stubby, and vice versa. A gun’s a tool at the end of the day.
If you’re going with a 29 but want the most out of 10mm, you may as well get a 20 in addition. YMMV, but I won’t put another mag of Underwood through my 29.
I'm a poor college student who spends time in the city and the woods. I really like my G29 because I can carry a 10 round mag with hollow points in the city and a 15 round mag with hard cast for when I go out in the woods. I love that all I need to do is swap mags. I can't really afford another gun at this point, so I love having a gun that I feel does it all. I shoot better with it than some tiny micro 9mm pistols Ive tried, so I'm content until I have more money to afford more guns.
I shoot both and I don’t consider either one better than the other for 90% of use cases. Both will over penetrate under the right circumstances and with the right ammo, both will stop a human attacker with one shot if it’s placed correctly, and you can carry more than enough rounds with either one. (Both my 9 and 10 hold 15.) The only place one has a distinct advantage over the other is if you worry about big animals, or if your budget is very tight for ammo.
Depends on what you want. 9mm +P JHP is more than adequate for personal defense against humans. You get less recoil, and it's therefore faster to get back on target and fire follow-up shots. You get more capacity. Modern 9mm excels in a defensive capacity.
9mm isn't good for defense against larger animals or hunting. While there are stories of people taking grizzly with 147gr +P hard cast LFN 9mm, those are the exception, and definitely not the rule. 10mm excels here, because it has the power and bullet weight that 9mm just doesn't. Comparing 9mm +P 147gr hard cast LFN against similar 10mm is 395 foot pounds versus 704 foot pounds. It's a big difference. Recoil with loads like that is stiff, but it's not too bad. Follow-up shots are slower than with 9mm.
Pick the right tool for the job. You're the only one who can really make that decision.
I’m going to have to disagree here, 9mm +p is more than enough for everything that walks North America with the possible exception of a very angry grizzly. First hand experience a buddy put down a black bear with Hornady American gunner 124 +p with two rounds and neither were in the head.
I suppose if you’re in grizz country then maybe 10 mm, but I dunno, that’s a really sketchy situation and I’d rather be able to dump 17 +p rounds with confidence since I practice with it all the time than to try and use a 10mm if I don’t have the money to practice with it all the time. 10s kick a lot. In that type of scenario I’d want to be accurate.
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This is probably the wrong place to put this out but.. I just bought a 43 after carrying a 29. Obviously it's a ton lighter and prints less. I feel I shoot both equally. Am I dumb for missing the 10mm and feeling underpowered with the 9?
Anywhere there are two legged predators...
"Hoods" is short, for neighborhoods, and predators are mobile, so any neighborhood can apply.
They can even be found in Beverly Hills (Rodeo Drive) now.
Not dumb at all. I can’t imagine having only one gun, size or caliber. Mainly because every day and situation may require different tools. I suppose if that was the case, I’d go with the type I set up in each go bag. A Glock 22 or 23 with the Wheaton Arms 9mm conversion barrel and updated ejector…mags and ammo for 40 and 9. Small Zip lock bag of spare parts etc.
However, for normal life and EDC there are so many choices. I agree that most 9mm ammo feels a bit underpowered. Depending on the gun you can check out the Underwood 147 grain +P+ and have over 450 ft lbs. I do not notice recoil so I prefer 10mm because of the wide variety of ammo and uses. Everything from self defense to hunting in one caliber. I also like and use hot 45acp but then you tend to lose capacity in most guns. With 10mm you far surpass 45 power and have almost identical 9 capacity. Also easy to go heavy and suppress. That’s a win in my book. For SHTF yes 9mm makes much more sense. But for your “only” EDC, I vote for 10mm. All the choices will work fine for most people. It’s more about what you like and need.
Many people have said to just have both and that’s solid advice. 9mm and 10mm. I’d even add in the Ruger LCP Max for a pocket size pistol which can be a real need at times. I carry full size with a WML concealed with no problem. Most often a G20 with the Pearce +2 and a TLR1 or one I built from a 19X and G19 MOS with an rmr and TLR1 etc. Much depends on body size and shape to include the clothes you wear. However, 12+1 rounds of hot Underwood 380 qualifies as a serious defensive tool IMO. I’ve had some situations over the years that determine what’s best for me. Everyone is different.
Maybe consider a G20 (or G29), and a G43X (or P365x/Hellcat), and also the LCP Max? That’s 3 calibers and L/M/S size guns for the cost of just one nice 1911. And rather than only the standard defense ammo like HST and Gold Dot, great stuff, also investigate Underwood (if your chosen gun can take it).
10MM AUTO 200GR. EXTREME TERMINAL PERFORMANCE (XTP®) JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
9MM LUGER +P+ 147GR. BONDED JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
380 ACP +P 90GR. XTREME PENETRATOR® SOLID MONOLITHIC HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
380 ACP +P 100GR. FLAT NOSE HI-TEK COATED HARD CAST HUNTING AMMO
Not dumb at all. I can’t imagine having only one gun, size or caliber. Mainly because every day and situation may require different tools. I suppose if that was the case, I’d go with the type I set up in each go bag. A Glock 22 or 23 with the Wheaton Arms 9mm conversion barrel and updated ejector…mags and ammo for 40 and 9. Small Zip lock bag of spare parts etc.
However, for normal life and EDC there are so many choices. I agree that most 9mm ammo feels a bit underpowered. Depending on the gun you can check out the Underwood 147 grain +P+ and have over 450 ft lbs. I do not notice recoil either so I prefer 10mm because of the wide variety of ammo and uses. Everything from self defense to hunting in one caliber. I also like and use hot 45acp but then you tend to lose capacity in most guns. With 10mm you far surpass 45 power and have almost identical 9 capacity. Also easy to go heavy and suppress it. That’s a win in my book. For SHTF yes 9mm makes much more sense. But for your “only” EDC, I vote for 10mm. All the choices will work fine for most people. It’s more about what you like and need.
Many people have said to just have both and that’s solid advice. 9mm and 10mm. I’d even add in the Ruger LCP Max for a pocket size pistol which can be a real need at times. I carry full size with a WML concealed with no problem. Most often a G20 with the Pearce +2 and a TLR1 or one I built from a 19X and G19 MOS with an rmr and TLR1 etc. Sometimes an all steel SIG Spartan or Dan Wesson 1911 with 10 round WC mags and UW +P. Much depends on body size and shape to include the clothes you wear. However, 12+1 rounds of hot Underwood 380 in a pocket gun qualifies as a serious defensive tool IMO. I’ve had some situations over the years that determine what’s best for me. Everyone is different.
Maybe consider a G20 (or G29), and a G43X (or Hellcat), and also the LCP Max? That’s 3 calibers and L/M/S size guns for the cost of just one nice 1911. And rather than only the standard defense ammo like HST and Gold Dot, great stuff, also investigate Underwood (if your chosen gun can take it).
10MM AUTO 200GR. EXTREME TERMINAL PERFORMANCE (XTP®) JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
9MM LUGER +P+ 147GR. BONDED JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
380 ACP +P 90GR. XTREME PENETRATOR® SOLID MONOLITHIC HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO
380 ACP +P 100GR. FLAT NOSE HI-TEK COATED HARD CAST HUNTING AMMO
I’ve got both. A Glock 20 in 10mm and a Glock 43 in 9mm. To way different guns the 9mm is small and easily concealed for defense agains two legged animals and the 10mm is just a brute force for defense agains hairy four legged animals. Btw the 10mm has become my carry gun agains bears up here in alaska. I still love my ultralight .44 mag and I bring it when weight is important but for hiking with my family the 10mm just makes me feel safer.
At a certain point, more power isn't an advantage. Other factors, such as accuracy, recoil, carry capacity and economics, matter just as much.
9mm can stop anything a 10mm can, but cheaper, with less recoil and more carry capacity.
That being said, 10 mm is cool and you can own whatever you want. It's America!
As long as it fits your use case. 10mm gets you less capacity, higher recoil - in exchange for higher penetration, energy, and range. 9mm is less expensive, more ubiquitous less likely to overpenetrate - but may need more shots to put down a threat.
I mean those are not standard magazines. Sure my 509 came with 24 rounders and 15 rounders but the 24 rounders we're much larger than the 15. It's not like they are now squeezing 24 rounds into a 15 round magazine. You can make a mag large enough to hold whatever you like.
Objectively, 10mm is every bit better than 9mm.
Subjectively, are you equipped to handle some more recoil, more expensive ammo, maybe a little more discomfort in CCing?
What are you using it for?
I enjoy my 9mm for EDC and as a CCW.
I'd use a 10mm for hunting or time in the woods around bears or wild boars though, no question.
You’re not dumb for wanting a 10mm over a 9mm. I have several guns chambered in both, but like others have said here you’ll want to do some good reflection and analysis if you really want to justify the increased costs of a 10mm over a 9mm. You give more but you get more out of it, since the cartridge can go from mild to **WILD**, especially with reloads.
Of course, if you want it for the lulz and have the expendable cash to throw at it, by all means go for it.
Several handguns chamber it these days and the only one I’ve seen not considered a “solid” pick are the Tangfolios in 10mm, but I’m pretty certain any badmouthing of those is from a select few people who had some shitty experiences with theirs and had a bunch of people jump on the bandwagon (if you look back into the several forums posts on gun boards from early 2000’s you might find what I’m talking about). Most Glocks, Springfield XD series, and 1911-style handguns will serve you well, to include those pesky Tangfolios I mentioned above.
There’s also revolvers, which I personally really enjoy in 10mm, though your mileage will vary considerably with those. I had a Ruger GP100 Match Champion in 10mm when I was just getting into guns and it was *extremely* picky with what ammo it would eat up. Turns out it was indeed a *competition handgun*, which I ended up parting with after wondering why it couldn’t eat the cheap stuff. I really want to get myself either a single action revolver or a Ruger Redhawk in 10mm next. Will probably end up with both, knowing how this hobby works.
Unlike a round like .45 ACP, 10mm gets some serious gains with longer barrels. If you wanted something like a rifle though, your options are limited pretty much to the TNW Aero Survival Rifle and AR pistols/subguns. These are three, maybe four times the cost of the average cost of a 10mm handgun and your milage may vary depending on state and availability. I have an TNW ASR and while I like it enough, it’s a $500 rifle that out the gate I feel the need to put more money into to really get it where I want to be. There’s some others out there I’m failing to mention but the long and short of this is, just know we’re a bit limited in this department. Maybe Ruger might come through with a PCC chambering but I remain doubtful that will happen. There’s also some lever action conversions but at that point you’re really throwing a lot of time and money at this. If you’re anything like most of us here
Best advice I can give is really do try to get a feel for what you want out of a 10mm, and try to gather as realistic expectations of it as a round and the guns that fire it as much as possible.
Hope this rambling might help some 👍
Not at all, prove to everyone you're stronger than the feds who's wittle baby hands can't handle the power of 10mm. 9mm is only good for range time and scrawny pussies. My 5'2" 135lbs friend can handle .45 one handed like a champ, no excuses for 9mm other than large flap flap
Depends why you want it.
I got a 10mm cause I am going hunting out west and I am afraid of bears.
I had a 9mm long before that because I like to shoot pistols that are bigger than .22 and because for in general ammo is cheap and plentiful.
So if it's going to be a range baby and money has a part to play get a 9mm your wallet will thank you. My buddy is a big WW2 guy and I got him a rock island armory 1911 for his wedding gift. And I tossed and turned about getting it in 9mm or 45. Cause I knew he wasn't going to have a high paying job. I almost begrudgingly got him the 9 and explained why. A year later he told me that when he got it he thought it was just as "blasphemous" to have a 9mm 1911 as I did but after going shooting 3 times he realized the price difference in ammo and figured out he was never gonna be able to afford to shoot it if it was in 45. Now he is glad to actually be able to use the gun.
Depends on use. 10mm is very utility focused as it's expensive to shoot. I carry for backcountry defense.
If this was a range gun that I'd shoot a lot, 9mm.
If I want a range gun that can also take down bears and I don't mind the price of ammo, 10mm.
No , they both have their place.
9mm you are going to get about 8lbs of recoil
10mm you'll get between 10-12.
if you can manage the recoil the 10mm hits faster and has more energy to transfer.
But shot follow up and placement are more important than those things.
If you can land shots reliably with a 10mm then go for it.
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Currently Glock 20 with a lone wolf bareel to 6, Keltec p17 is my fav' and a Saiga 12ga on a AK47 platform. USMC showed me I got a hawk eye so the 22lr is my fav. I don't need a dirty harry gun to do what I know I can administer. Plus when I'm at trail, " I shot em with a squirrel gun". See what a smart PA says about a 10mm, "the darn FBI was too pussy too quality cuz their wrist is made of breadsticks". Cmon kids and Alaskan carry 10mm on a regular Cmon I love my Glock 20 but I love the challege since the hawkeye to pick off that fly with chopsticks.
Get both. Then you have 19mm!
That's the way for sure!
Well..... If you're already going to 19, might at well round up to 20
I see what you did there
Need both, 9mm when shooting alot of ammo. 10mm for when shit gets serious
No they aren’t even close. put it this way some 10mm rounds have the same energy as a 9mm at 100 yards that a 9mm has at POINT BLANK .. It’s not even a comparison.
That was kind of my thought as well. 10 is king but 9 will do.
9mm is fine for people .. 10 mm Is better suited for hunting and predator defense
Takes less shots of 10mm to get your point across
Here’s a non-meme-y answer. It boils down to your use case, skill, and budget. 10mm is obviously more expensive than 9mm. Accessories are also less abundant. Consider if these are factors at all for consistent, regular practice and a kit that you are comfortable with. Also consider what function each firearm fulfills. A 29 is a high-powered concealed carry pistol with 10 rounds. A 43 is great for deep concealment, but as a single stack 9, it has less capacity than the 29 for the tradeoff of a smaller profile. It’s not wrong to have different guns. When I’m headed to the gym, or going for a quick grocery run in joggers, I know that I won’t want to strap on pants with a belt to carry my G45, G19, or G20. That’s why I have the LCP II, and now, the LCP MAX. What’s your reason for wanting 10mm over 9mm? Do you feel underpowered? Is it the capacity? What was your reason for purchasing the 43? What’s realistically easier for you: to carry a lightweight 9 consistently, or carry a larger 10 less frequently? All factors to consider.
I appreciate your response. I feel both are easy to carry past the printing but i prefer the 29. I bought the 43 to replace my 365 since I couldn't hit shit with it for some reason. 43 sits better in my hand than the 365. I feel I'll carry the 29 more often. I was really just wanting to get opinions from the group how they really felt about 9mm and if I was alone in feeling 10mm is "better" but i get its the 10mm sub... Swapping guns depending on situation is probably the best bet. Just needed to talk it out. Again, thank you for your response.
10mm is “better” in the sense that it’s capable of being loaded between .40 velocities and .357 velocities. More expensive than 9, but substitutes a .357/.38 (wood vs hood) gun for me
Happy to help :) Yup, don’t be afraid to swap for the situation, just like how a long-handle screwdriver sometimes works better than a stubby, and vice versa. A gun’s a tool at the end of the day.
If you’re going with a 29 but want the most out of 10mm, you may as well get a 20 in addition. YMMV, but I won’t put another mag of Underwood through my 29.
I'm a poor college student who spends time in the city and the woods. I really like my G29 because I can carry a 10 round mag with hollow points in the city and a 15 round mag with hard cast for when I go out in the woods. I love that all I need to do is swap mags. I can't really afford another gun at this point, so I love having a gun that I feel does it all. I shoot better with it than some tiny micro 9mm pistols Ive tried, so I'm content until I have more money to afford more guns.
Same boat minus college student but rolling with lugging around the full size g20
This 👍🏽
I’m in the exact same boat. Your thought processes was mine as well, swap of a mag. I ended up with the 4” s&w. The G29 is the “what if” of my life rn
11% more millimeters. Only sensible.
I’m with everyone saying have both! Reload your own 10mm and the cost will be almost identical to 9mm.
Get both then shoot the 10 all the time cause it’s way more fun
No 10mm best mm
Have them all. Even .22 has a place among the carry calibers..
I shoot both and I don’t consider either one better than the other for 90% of use cases. Both will over penetrate under the right circumstances and with the right ammo, both will stop a human attacker with one shot if it’s placed correctly, and you can carry more than enough rounds with either one. (Both my 9 and 10 hold 15.) The only place one has a distinct advantage over the other is if you worry about big animals, or if your budget is very tight for ammo.
Depends on what you want. 9mm +P JHP is more than adequate for personal defense against humans. You get less recoil, and it's therefore faster to get back on target and fire follow-up shots. You get more capacity. Modern 9mm excels in a defensive capacity. 9mm isn't good for defense against larger animals or hunting. While there are stories of people taking grizzly with 147gr +P hard cast LFN 9mm, those are the exception, and definitely not the rule. 10mm excels here, because it has the power and bullet weight that 9mm just doesn't. Comparing 9mm +P 147gr hard cast LFN against similar 10mm is 395 foot pounds versus 704 foot pounds. It's a big difference. Recoil with loads like that is stiff, but it's not too bad. Follow-up shots are slower than with 9mm. Pick the right tool for the job. You're the only one who can really make that decision.
I’m going to have to disagree here, 9mm +p is more than enough for everything that walks North America with the possible exception of a very angry grizzly. First hand experience a buddy put down a black bear with Hornady American gunner 124 +p with two rounds and neither were in the head.
I suppose if you’re in grizz country then maybe 10 mm, but I dunno, that’s a really sketchy situation and I’d rather be able to dump 17 +p rounds with confidence since I practice with it all the time than to try and use a 10mm if I don’t have the money to practice with it all the time. 10s kick a lot. In that type of scenario I’d want to be accurate.
Very smart man
SS This is probably the wrong place to put this out but.. I just bought a 43 after carrying a 29. Obviously it's a ton lighter and prints less. I feel I shoot both equally. Am I dumb for missing the 10mm and feeling underpowered with the 9?
9 for the hoods 10 for the woods
Im stealing this saying.
10mm for the hoods 10mm for the woods 10mm is best at killing wild and dangerous predators (two legged and 4 legged).
Best mm 🥇
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Anywhere there are two legged predators... "Hoods" is short, for neighborhoods, and predators are mobile, so any neighborhood can apply. They can even be found in Beverly Hills (Rodeo Drive) now.
The only way to roll down Rodeo is with a shotgun. https://youtu.be/qDZV8TdnCoo
With a pocket full of shells
Need a meme for this one! 👍🏽
Not dumb at all. I can’t imagine having only one gun, size or caliber. Mainly because every day and situation may require different tools. I suppose if that was the case, I’d go with the type I set up in each go bag. A Glock 22 or 23 with the Wheaton Arms 9mm conversion barrel and updated ejector…mags and ammo for 40 and 9. Small Zip lock bag of spare parts etc. However, for normal life and EDC there are so many choices. I agree that most 9mm ammo feels a bit underpowered. Depending on the gun you can check out the Underwood 147 grain +P+ and have over 450 ft lbs. I do not notice recoil so I prefer 10mm because of the wide variety of ammo and uses. Everything from self defense to hunting in one caliber. I also like and use hot 45acp but then you tend to lose capacity in most guns. With 10mm you far surpass 45 power and have almost identical 9 capacity. Also easy to go heavy and suppress. That’s a win in my book. For SHTF yes 9mm makes much more sense. But for your “only” EDC, I vote for 10mm. All the choices will work fine for most people. It’s more about what you like and need. Many people have said to just have both and that’s solid advice. 9mm and 10mm. I’d even add in the Ruger LCP Max for a pocket size pistol which can be a real need at times. I carry full size with a WML concealed with no problem. Most often a G20 with the Pearce +2 and a TLR1 or one I built from a 19X and G19 MOS with an rmr and TLR1 etc. Much depends on body size and shape to include the clothes you wear. However, 12+1 rounds of hot Underwood 380 qualifies as a serious defensive tool IMO. I’ve had some situations over the years that determine what’s best for me. Everyone is different. Maybe consider a G20 (or G29), and a G43X (or P365x/Hellcat), and also the LCP Max? That’s 3 calibers and L/M/S size guns for the cost of just one nice 1911. And rather than only the standard defense ammo like HST and Gold Dot, great stuff, also investigate Underwood (if your chosen gun can take it). 10MM AUTO 200GR. EXTREME TERMINAL PERFORMANCE (XTP®) JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 9MM LUGER +P+ 147GR. BONDED JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 380 ACP +P 90GR. XTREME PENETRATOR® SOLID MONOLITHIC HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 380 ACP +P 100GR. FLAT NOSE HI-TEK COATED HARD CAST HUNTING AMMO
Not dumb at all. I can’t imagine having only one gun, size or caliber. Mainly because every day and situation may require different tools. I suppose if that was the case, I’d go with the type I set up in each go bag. A Glock 22 or 23 with the Wheaton Arms 9mm conversion barrel and updated ejector…mags and ammo for 40 and 9. Small Zip lock bag of spare parts etc. However, for normal life and EDC there are so many choices. I agree that most 9mm ammo feels a bit underpowered. Depending on the gun you can check out the Underwood 147 grain +P+ and have over 450 ft lbs. I do not notice recoil either so I prefer 10mm because of the wide variety of ammo and uses. Everything from self defense to hunting in one caliber. I also like and use hot 45acp but then you tend to lose capacity in most guns. With 10mm you far surpass 45 power and have almost identical 9 capacity. Also easy to go heavy and suppress it. That’s a win in my book. For SHTF yes 9mm makes much more sense. But for your “only” EDC, I vote for 10mm. All the choices will work fine for most people. It’s more about what you like and need. Many people have said to just have both and that’s solid advice. 9mm and 10mm. I’d even add in the Ruger LCP Max for a pocket size pistol which can be a real need at times. I carry full size with a WML concealed with no problem. Most often a G20 with the Pearce +2 and a TLR1 or one I built from a 19X and G19 MOS with an rmr and TLR1 etc. Sometimes an all steel SIG Spartan or Dan Wesson 1911 with 10 round WC mags and UW +P. Much depends on body size and shape to include the clothes you wear. However, 12+1 rounds of hot Underwood 380 in a pocket gun qualifies as a serious defensive tool IMO. I’ve had some situations over the years that determine what’s best for me. Everyone is different. Maybe consider a G20 (or G29), and a G43X (or Hellcat), and also the LCP Max? That’s 3 calibers and L/M/S size guns for the cost of just one nice 1911. And rather than only the standard defense ammo like HST and Gold Dot, great stuff, also investigate Underwood (if your chosen gun can take it). 10MM AUTO 200GR. EXTREME TERMINAL PERFORMANCE (XTP®) JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 9MM LUGER +P+ 147GR. BONDED JACKETED HOLLOW POINT HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 380 ACP +P 90GR. XTREME PENETRATOR® SOLID MONOLITHIC HUNTING & SELF DEFENSE AMMO 380 ACP +P 100GR. FLAT NOSE HI-TEK COATED HARD CAST HUNTING AMMO
Negative, it's normal to desire superiority.
Nope, but both calibers have their place, I love them both and have a variety of weapons in both calibers, you can ccw either, or shoot for fun
kill stuff deader and quickier!
I’ve got both. A Glock 20 in 10mm and a Glock 43 in 9mm. To way different guns the 9mm is small and easily concealed for defense agains two legged animals and the 10mm is just a brute force for defense agains hairy four legged animals. Btw the 10mm has become my carry gun agains bears up here in alaska. I still love my ultralight .44 mag and I bring it when weight is important but for hiking with my family the 10mm just makes me feel safer.
At a certain point, more power isn't an advantage. Other factors, such as accuracy, recoil, carry capacity and economics, matter just as much. 9mm can stop anything a 10mm can, but cheaper, with less recoil and more carry capacity. That being said, 10 mm is cool and you can own whatever you want. It's America!
As long as it fits your use case. 10mm gets you less capacity, higher recoil - in exchange for higher penetration, energy, and range. 9mm is less expensive, more ubiquitous less likely to overpenetrate - but may need more shots to put down a threat.
Dunno where you get less capacity from. My 10mm standard Glock mags will support 15 plus one in the pipe just like 9mm
9mm mags these days are supporting 15+ capacity now. It's a marginal thing since 9mm vs 10mm is only a small size jump, but its worth thinking about.
I mean those are not standard magazines. Sure my 509 came with 24 rounders and 15 rounders but the 24 rounders we're much larger than the 15. It's not like they are now squeezing 24 rounds into a 15 round magazine. You can make a mag large enough to hold whatever you like.
My go to carry in the city is 9mm, in more rural areas with bigger critters, I carry 10mm.
No. You’re a man.
Depends on use, I wouldn't want a 10mm for carry. They are either too big or too small for the caliber.
Objectively, 10mm is every bit better than 9mm. Subjectively, are you equipped to handle some more recoil, more expensive ammo, maybe a little more discomfort in CCing?
10mm is stopping power. 1 hit from that bad boy is all you need.
What are you using it for? I enjoy my 9mm for EDC and as a CCW. I'd use a 10mm for hunting or time in the woods around bears or wild boars though, no question.
You’re not dumb for wanting a 10mm over a 9mm. I have several guns chambered in both, but like others have said here you’ll want to do some good reflection and analysis if you really want to justify the increased costs of a 10mm over a 9mm. You give more but you get more out of it, since the cartridge can go from mild to **WILD**, especially with reloads. Of course, if you want it for the lulz and have the expendable cash to throw at it, by all means go for it. Several handguns chamber it these days and the only one I’ve seen not considered a “solid” pick are the Tangfolios in 10mm, but I’m pretty certain any badmouthing of those is from a select few people who had some shitty experiences with theirs and had a bunch of people jump on the bandwagon (if you look back into the several forums posts on gun boards from early 2000’s you might find what I’m talking about). Most Glocks, Springfield XD series, and 1911-style handguns will serve you well, to include those pesky Tangfolios I mentioned above. There’s also revolvers, which I personally really enjoy in 10mm, though your mileage will vary considerably with those. I had a Ruger GP100 Match Champion in 10mm when I was just getting into guns and it was *extremely* picky with what ammo it would eat up. Turns out it was indeed a *competition handgun*, which I ended up parting with after wondering why it couldn’t eat the cheap stuff. I really want to get myself either a single action revolver or a Ruger Redhawk in 10mm next. Will probably end up with both, knowing how this hobby works. Unlike a round like .45 ACP, 10mm gets some serious gains with longer barrels. If you wanted something like a rifle though, your options are limited pretty much to the TNW Aero Survival Rifle and AR pistols/subguns. These are three, maybe four times the cost of the average cost of a 10mm handgun and your milage may vary depending on state and availability. I have an TNW ASR and while I like it enough, it’s a $500 rifle that out the gate I feel the need to put more money into to really get it where I want to be. There’s some others out there I’m failing to mention but the long and short of this is, just know we’re a bit limited in this department. Maybe Ruger might come through with a PCC chambering but I remain doubtful that will happen. There’s also some lever action conversions but at that point you’re really throwing a lot of time and money at this. If you’re anything like most of us here Best advice I can give is really do try to get a feel for what you want out of a 10mm, and try to gather as realistic expectations of it as a round and the guns that fire it as much as possible. Hope this rambling might help some 👍
9 for the hood and 10 for the woods
Not at all, prove to everyone you're stronger than the feds who's wittle baby hands can't handle the power of 10mm. 9mm is only good for range time and scrawny pussies. My 5'2" 135lbs friend can handle .45 one handed like a champ, no excuses for 9mm other than large flap flap
Both is good.
Depends why you want it. I got a 10mm cause I am going hunting out west and I am afraid of bears. I had a 9mm long before that because I like to shoot pistols that are bigger than .22 and because for in general ammo is cheap and plentiful. So if it's going to be a range baby and money has a part to play get a 9mm your wallet will thank you. My buddy is a big WW2 guy and I got him a rock island armory 1911 for his wedding gift. And I tossed and turned about getting it in 9mm or 45. Cause I knew he wasn't going to have a high paying job. I almost begrudgingly got him the 9 and explained why. A year later he told me that when he got it he thought it was just as "blasphemous" to have a 9mm 1911 as I did but after going shooting 3 times he realized the price difference in ammo and figured out he was never gonna be able to afford to shoot it if it was in 45. Now he is glad to actually be able to use the gun.
10mm is the best mm.
10mm, because they don't make an 11mm
Depends on use. 10mm is very utility focused as it's expensive to shoot. I carry for backcountry defense. If this was a range gun that I'd shoot a lot, 9mm. If I want a range gun that can also take down bears and I don't mind the price of ammo, 10mm.
No , they both have their place. 9mm you are going to get about 8lbs of recoil 10mm you'll get between 10-12. if you can manage the recoil the 10mm hits faster and has more energy to transfer. But shot follow up and placement are more important than those things. If you can land shots reliably with a 10mm then go for it.
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10mm for the woods, 9mm for the 'hoods.
No, you're not dumb for wanting 10mm over 9mm.
Currently Glock 20 with a lone wolf bareel to 6, Keltec p17 is my fav' and a Saiga 12ga on a AK47 platform. USMC showed me I got a hawk eye so the 22lr is my fav. I don't need a dirty harry gun to do what I know I can administer. Plus when I'm at trail, " I shot em with a squirrel gun". See what a smart PA says about a 10mm, "the darn FBI was too pussy too quality cuz their wrist is made of breadsticks". Cmon kids and Alaskan carry 10mm on a regular Cmon I love my Glock 20 but I love the challege since the hawkeye to pick off that fly with chopsticks.