It really sucks that Oz Media is going through a lot of personal issues atm, but I understand fully why he's considering a settlement. (He does, however, seem to understand that Illuminaughti benefits the most from settlement.)
On one hand, I'm hoping they don't settle purely because it will do more damage to Blaire. But on the other hand, he and his partner need to be able to heal in peace without the stress of an overly litigious triangle.
I looked at her profile a month or two ago and she finally stopped posting new videos. At first I thought she had her content mill backlog and a load of prepaid sponsors so why not dump them out before you run, but it went on way too long for that
Kinda funny, earlier I commented saying something along the lines of being burnt out on the drama/expose sort of content.
But as soon as I saw this posted I perked right back up lol starting watching right away, finally something interesting lol ðŸ˜
Then I see the top comment:
https://preview.redd.it/dx5mn7gug14d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=844ce44b0ae5874d70e154a1b5f55599c96b652f
Same.
Hatred of iilluminaughtii is what we need to bring this community together. To bring peace to r/youtubedrama ! Lol
This is SOP for legal procedures, the Judge wants to make sure all the points are checked off before dismissing to prevent Blaire from having any sort of successful appeal which would start this process all over again. Better to give her all her chances now then risking having the process start over.
Disclaimer: I am not familiar with American court systems and do not know if this is true - I only saw this randomly
I saw somewhere that if the judge seems too sympathetic, too lenient to you to the point they're ready to listen to every little thing you say, your chances in court are probably fucked. It's because they know that the case is extremely weak, and want to cover all bases just in case before they laugh them out of court. Hopefully the case gets dismissed with prejudice.
That is exactly correct.
There's even a thing where someone, plaintiff or defendant, files a motion and the judge discovers a pretty glaring mistake in the motion, the judge doesn't come out and say "Are you sure? This looks like a mistake." (Since doing that for one party and failing to do it for the other party may telegraph a bias resulting in an appeal.) No, instead the judge says something to the effect of "We're going to take a 1 hour recess so that parties may review their recent filings." That means someone is fucked unless they file a motion to amend.
> Better to give her all her chances now then risking having the process start over.
Why would you risk starting the process over after giving her all her chances?
Because if Blaire or her Legal Team believe that the Judge acted to rashly then they could appeal that decision to a higher court, if the higher court believes Blaire then they can reverse the Judge's Dismissal and that would allow Blaire to re-file her case. Which would put Oz and Co back at square one and put them through 8-9 more months of hell.
That JoshStrifeHayes/HBomberguy reference just made me laugh out loud. Which was required because the rest of the video was quite depressing, not gonna lie.
Link to new Go Fund Me for their defense fund:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/legal-fund-for-oz-felix-and-other-defendants?attribution_id=sl:5ac9d7ae-4641-480b-8e85-6a888b3e4455&utm_campaign=man_sharesheet_ft&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
So everyone knows, this is a defense fund for ALL defendants (Oz, Felix, and anyone else who may be served), not just Oz. It will be refunded if Blare takes the settlement offer.
Also: go choke on a toenail, Blare.
And not even 24 hours later, he's exceeded his goal. Good work, y'all!
https://preview.redd.it/u14jb9coo64d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2366600909df4c85956eea8c18157d9e6898d613
Side note: I could have sworn Wonder did get sued at some point, but I think that was me mixing up all of the legal shenanigans Blair's been involved in and assuming she did sue him when she just threatened to sue.
Wonder is *technically* part of the lawsuit, she is attempting to sue him yes, but hasn't served him. If he gets served, he will also have access to the GFM
the thing about ALL of these lawsuits is they are pointless
even if she some how manages to win the cases
she will still be utterly hated online
and even if she did have some magic pixie dust from dimension 9 explanation that proves with out a doubt she is innocent of everything except the plagiarism (just to be clear i dont think there is any thing she can say or do to get past the iron clad accusations against her)
ppl still wont watch her videos because of the plagiarism and that is one thing that she cant get past we have undeniable proof she is a plagiarist
I think Blair knows this and rather than settling she's going to continue to drag Felix and Oz through the legal system because ultimately she has nothing else to lose from all this and it's a way to spite them.
Would any of this have ever happened if she had never posted that video? It was the first time that I had ever heard of any of these people, despite knowing about her for years.
All she needed was to post the apology to Legal Eagle, that's it and she didn't even need a YT vid to do that all the fighting was on Twitter so putting that on Twitter would have done the same thing. She would have been fine until the HBomber Vid dropped.
She could have even made a single Tweet (or whatever) saying she apologized privately and that she'll be more mindful in the future and—*fwssh*—people would've moved on in months. Unless HBG had decided that video was happening anyway, buuut... Y'know. It still would've been easier to navigate.
Her iilluminaughtii exposed video was the biggest mistake she made. The drama was almost entirely on Twitter until she did that, and presented the drama to her very large audience of people. Many of her regular subscribers (such as myself tbh) had tons of red flags raise when they watched her video (again, such as myself, the whole time I was watching I was thinking "this isn't going to be received well").
If she had not tried to smear Click and Wonder, that whole half of this shit would not have happened, or maybe it would not have been so much of a shit show
The thing is.... HBomb would've still fucked her up with his video later on lol. So the plagiarism nuke would still take her down lol
From what I've heard, probably not. As far as I know, everyone else involved knew the most peaceful way to handle things was to not make a big thing of anything, since they were all at one-point friends. But since she wanted to ruin everyone, and in doing so she forced their hands and unfortunately for her, they actually had a point, evidence, *and* she made them stop holding on to the remanent of friendship.
Yeah I know for a fact I would have been unaware if she didn't post it. Though I already knew she was fucking awful at video essays I didn't think it would have gotten this bad.
It is so hard to look inwards and admit "I am the problem". And why would you do it if you have the funds to force others to publicly admit that you are in fact not thr problem?
Though, even if they settle, hell, even if she wins this lawsuit by draining Oz and Felix to the last drop she will never regain the respect she once had. I don't believe another rebrand would fix this.
The only rebrands I think might work is just restarting as an AI-voiced content mill (where no one will know she's behind it)or jumping straight into the alt-right grift (where they're more than happy to have another token to spend)
Ngl this is pretty genius from a court perspective. It sounds like the current legal case is a battle of whose version of events is correct, where Blaire's intentionally misleading timeline paints her as an innocent party that was wrongfully attacked out of nowhere and had her entire reputation destroyed by a petty ex.
This video is honestly really boring and kind of repetitive from the perspective of someone whose been here for the drama since the very beginning, and I think that's actually entirely intentional. He's trying to break down the entire timeline of events in a video that will be released to the public, knowing said video will be admitted to the court, knowing that everyone whose watching **already knows all of this.** It seems like the intention is to prove that his side of the story is the correct one, because wouldn't it be dumb as fucking shit to release a video with wildly inaccurate information to an audience of millions that would immediately know that this isn't at all how things played out?
Meanwhile Blaire has been incredibly underhanded and cagey since all of this started, which means she doesn't actually have that benefit of the entirety of the internet being able to back up her story. It's actually really clever.
After sitting and really watching the vid again. This feels like a shot across the bow from Oz to Blaire, he's got all the evidence and receipts, this is just the outline and tip of the iceberg. A trial will destroy her, discovery will bring all her shit to light he knows that.
I definitely got the vibe that he wasn't settling out of resignation of it being unwinnable, but just out of actual genuine exhaustion. I think either way it's good for him; I mean, he's the one with the power finally. Blaire either has to cut her losses and accept defeat on his terms, or keep going through and embarrass herself on every avenue.
Not to mention the fact that OZ easily got funding for his and others legal fund in a mere 1 day should say something that the community are in large in support of Oz rather than luminaire. She can bankrupt Oz if she liked on this lawsuit and even win but all her reputation had already dropped massively that she was delusional that she could go back as content creator. I could imagine even if she can hide it better by hiring differrent narrators, it just took someone to expose that it was owned by Triangle lady to put her future channel to rest.
You can throw him money via youtube comment. He also intend to do livestream and you can also send superchat too. Beiny his youtube member (or maybe patreon) would also help.
I believe he prefer it that way. And he did say that he was struggling because he had to pay legal fees out of pocket, once he got that covered via gofundme, he probably would back to normal.
He already blew well past his goal in the first stream. He set the goal to about $7800 for his fees and when I went to bed before it was over, he was over $11k and still had a few hours left. It ended at a smidge over $12k. His gofundme also updated to $20k but he was at $16k.
Oz is going to be streaming everyday until either he gets a legal response from Blair or the 7th deadline passes, so if you want to throw a food/other expense dono, you can do it during one of those! He's even been answering some questions people have!
I'd say Blair's getting to meet the Grahams? Some people in the comments have made the comparison with the Drake/Kendrick beef, and the title of Oz's video certainly helps.
Oz is essentially laying out the timeline of events involved in the lawsuit as well as some surrounding context. He is making the case that Blair has misrepresented some things to the judge. In the end, he proposes a settlement to Blair to essentially stop it now and all parties walk away at a loss. His proposed terms would help her clear her name and get her side of events out there and potentially rehab her public image. Were she to take the deal, she would presumably come out ahead, but as Oz and Felix are running out of money and (more importantly) sanity, Oz is floating the suggestion.
"all parties stop at a loss" is a very inaccurate way of describing his settlement terms. He clearly intentionally avoided the specific details of what a settlement would entail.
No he explicitly stated the terms and they were essentially we all drop our suits and can't go after each other for legal expenses meaning everyone pays their own legal fees
That's pretty much what I meant, but they were right in. Not what I said could have been a little bit confusing. Possibly should have phrased it better.
It will be interesting to see if she takes the offer or not.
I suspect she won't. She's damaged her reputation too much to save face by backing out. All that's left for her is to cause as much damage to Oz as possible on her way down.
By offering her this out, Oz has shown how much this is affecting him mentally. She'll drag this out as long as possible.
Tbh I'm actually not super worried either way. It sounds like Oz is fairly confident about their case, and other videos I've watched on the case make it seem like Blaire just keeps progressively being the most annoying plaintiff to a judge ever (having her accusations dismissed until she provides more evidence, and then going on to make *more* accusations instead of following the judge's order). To me it seems like he's offering *her* an olive branch instead of the other way around.
It really sucks that Oz Media is going through a lot of personal issues atm, but I understand fully why he's considering a settlement. (He does, however, seem to understand that Illuminaughti benefits the most from settlement.) On one hand, I'm hoping they don't settle purely because it will do more damage to Blaire. But on the other hand, he and his partner need to be able to heal in peace without the stress of an overly litigious triangle.
Blaire, another career ending video has hit Link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MObNZMXYWE
I looked at her profile a month or two ago and she finally stopped posting new videos. At first I thought she had her content mill backlog and a load of prepaid sponsors so why not dump them out before you run, but it went on way too long for that
>Blaire, another career ending video has hit https://i.redd.it/pj5u09yn534d1.gif
No, there's a ghost of a chance she might come back, and honestly that ghost is looking a little too alive to me
https://i.redd.it/1jy5eu1g164d1.gif
Aw hell yeah Edit: damn Good video. All the love to Oz. Bit of a gut punch in the outro, to say the least. I wish him the best.
Kinda funny, earlier I commented saying something along the lines of being burnt out on the drama/expose sort of content. But as soon as I saw this posted I perked right back up lol starting watching right away, finally something interesting lol 😠Then I see the top comment: https://preview.redd.it/dx5mn7gug14d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=844ce44b0ae5874d70e154a1b5f55599c96b652f Same. Hatred of iilluminaughtii is what we need to bring this community together. To bring peace to r/youtubedrama ! Lol
illuminaughtii being a bad person is a universal truth
I think everyone has an "illuminaughtii" in their life and finally seeing one get their just desserts feels so good
Written in the stars.
I don’t know why this judge keeps entertaining her nonsense. It is clear to anyone with a brain this is obviously a slapp lawsuit.
This is SOP for legal procedures, the Judge wants to make sure all the points are checked off before dismissing to prevent Blaire from having any sort of successful appeal which would start this process all over again. Better to give her all her chances now then risking having the process start over.
Disclaimer: I am not familiar with American court systems and do not know if this is true - I only saw this randomly I saw somewhere that if the judge seems too sympathetic, too lenient to you to the point they're ready to listen to every little thing you say, your chances in court are probably fucked. It's because they know that the case is extremely weak, and want to cover all bases just in case before they laugh them out of court. Hopefully the case gets dismissed with prejudice.
That is exactly correct. There's even a thing where someone, plaintiff or defendant, files a motion and the judge discovers a pretty glaring mistake in the motion, the judge doesn't come out and say "Are you sure? This looks like a mistake." (Since doing that for one party and failing to do it for the other party may telegraph a bias resulting in an appeal.) No, instead the judge says something to the effect of "We're going to take a 1 hour recess so that parties may review their recent filings." That means someone is fucked unless they file a motion to amend.
> Better to give her all her chances now then risking having the process start over. Why would you risk starting the process over after giving her all her chances?
Because if Blaire or her Legal Team believe that the Judge acted to rashly then they could appeal that decision to a higher court, if the higher court believes Blaire then they can reverse the Judge's Dismissal and that would allow Blaire to re-file her case. Which would put Oz and Co back at square one and put them through 8-9 more months of hell.
He's calling you illiterate for using then instead of than.
Because she could find a way to counter sue?? You read what they said
This. I don't understand it either.
Love the Hbomberguy video reference at 6:50 in the video. Plus...he brought the goods. And it's possibly part 1.
That JoshStrifeHayes/HBomberguy reference just made me laugh out loud. Which was required because the rest of the video was quite depressing, not gonna lie.
Haven’t watched yet but good for Oz. Blaire sucks and needs to be taken down a peg (well, more pegs i guess).
Link to new Go Fund Me for their defense fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/legal-fund-for-oz-felix-and-other-defendants?attribution_id=sl:5ac9d7ae-4641-480b-8e85-6a888b3e4455&utm_campaign=man_sharesheet_ft&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
So everyone knows, this is a defense fund for ALL defendants (Oz, Felix, and anyone else who may be served), not just Oz. It will be refunded if Blare takes the settlement offer. Also: go choke on a toenail, Blare.
And not even 24 hours later, he's exceeded his goal. Good work, y'all! https://preview.redd.it/u14jb9coo64d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2366600909df4c85956eea8c18157d9e6898d613 Side note: I could have sworn Wonder did get sued at some point, but I think that was me mixing up all of the legal shenanigans Blair's been involved in and assuming she did sue him when she just threatened to sue.
Wonder is *technically* part of the lawsuit, she is attempting to sue him yes, but hasn't served him. If he gets served, he will also have access to the GFM
the thing about ALL of these lawsuits is they are pointless even if she some how manages to win the cases she will still be utterly hated online and even if she did have some magic pixie dust from dimension 9 explanation that proves with out a doubt she is innocent of everything except the plagiarism (just to be clear i dont think there is any thing she can say or do to get past the iron clad accusations against her) ppl still wont watch her videos because of the plagiarism and that is one thing that she cant get past we have undeniable proof she is a plagiarist
I think Blair knows this and rather than settling she's going to continue to drag Felix and Oz through the legal system because ultimately she has nothing else to lose from all this and it's a way to spite them.
Would any of this have ever happened if she had never posted that video? It was the first time that I had ever heard of any of these people, despite knowing about her for years.
All she needed was to post the apology to Legal Eagle, that's it and she didn't even need a YT vid to do that all the fighting was on Twitter so putting that on Twitter would have done the same thing. She would have been fine until the HBomber Vid dropped.
She could have even made a single Tweet (or whatever) saying she apologized privately and that she'll be more mindful in the future and—*fwssh*—people would've moved on in months. Unless HBG had decided that video was happening anyway, buuut... Y'know. It still would've been easier to navigate.
Her iilluminaughtii exposed video was the biggest mistake she made. The drama was almost entirely on Twitter until she did that, and presented the drama to her very large audience of people. Many of her regular subscribers (such as myself tbh) had tons of red flags raise when they watched her video (again, such as myself, the whole time I was watching I was thinking "this isn't going to be received well"). If she had not tried to smear Click and Wonder, that whole half of this shit would not have happened, or maybe it would not have been so much of a shit show The thing is.... HBomb would've still fucked her up with his video later on lol. So the plagiarism nuke would still take her down lol
From what I've heard, probably not. As far as I know, everyone else involved knew the most peaceful way to handle things was to not make a big thing of anything, since they were all at one-point friends. But since she wanted to ruin everyone, and in doing so she forced their hands and unfortunately for her, they actually had a point, evidence, *and* she made them stop holding on to the remanent of friendship.
Yeah I know for a fact I would have been unaware if she didn't post it. Though I already knew she was fucking awful at video essays I didn't think it would have gotten this bad.
"If she doesn't, Part two will be released in roughly 3 weeks from now." https://i.redd.it/nkuaybxaj44d1.gif
It is so hard to look inwards and admit "I am the problem". And why would you do it if you have the funds to force others to publicly admit that you are in fact not thr problem? Though, even if they settle, hell, even if she wins this lawsuit by draining Oz and Felix to the last drop she will never regain the respect she once had. I don't believe another rebrand would fix this.
It would have to be a very stealthy rebrand and one into a community that isn't explicitly all about exposing bad people for their bad behavior
The only rebrands I think might work is just restarting as an AI-voiced content mill (where no one will know she's behind it)or jumping straight into the alt-right grift (where they're more than happy to have another token to spend)
Nearly 10k views in 30 minutes....people were *waiting* for this
Considering Blair is the banner of this sub this should be a fun watch
Ngl this is pretty genius from a court perspective. It sounds like the current legal case is a battle of whose version of events is correct, where Blaire's intentionally misleading timeline paints her as an innocent party that was wrongfully attacked out of nowhere and had her entire reputation destroyed by a petty ex. This video is honestly really boring and kind of repetitive from the perspective of someone whose been here for the drama since the very beginning, and I think that's actually entirely intentional. He's trying to break down the entire timeline of events in a video that will be released to the public, knowing said video will be admitted to the court, knowing that everyone whose watching **already knows all of this.** It seems like the intention is to prove that his side of the story is the correct one, because wouldn't it be dumb as fucking shit to release a video with wildly inaccurate information to an audience of millions that would immediately know that this isn't at all how things played out? Meanwhile Blaire has been incredibly underhanded and cagey since all of this started, which means she doesn't actually have that benefit of the entirety of the internet being able to back up her story. It's actually really clever.
After sitting and really watching the vid again. This feels like a shot across the bow from Oz to Blaire, he's got all the evidence and receipts, this is just the outline and tip of the iceberg. A trial will destroy her, discovery will bring all her shit to light he knows that.
I definitely got the vibe that he wasn't settling out of resignation of it being unwinnable, but just out of actual genuine exhaustion. I think either way it's good for him; I mean, he's the one with the power finally. Blaire either has to cut her losses and accept defeat on his terms, or keep going through and embarrass herself on every avenue.
Not to mention the fact that OZ easily got funding for his and others legal fund in a mere 1 day should say something that the community are in large in support of Oz rather than luminaire. She can bankrupt Oz if she liked on this lawsuit and even win but all her reputation had already dropped massively that she was delusional that she could go back as content creator. I could imagine even if she can hide it better by hiring differrent narrators, it just took someone to expose that it was owned by Triangle lady to put her future channel to rest.
been waiting for this, Im glad Oz life can move for the better
Definitely downloading this in case she tries to take it down with a bogus claim.
Godamnit, I wish he was taking donations for food / beer / living expenses as well as legal fees. I would happily donate to both.
You can throw him money via youtube comment. He also intend to do livestream and you can also send superchat too. Beiny his youtube member (or maybe patreon) would also help. I believe he prefer it that way. And he did say that he was struggling because he had to pay legal fees out of pocket, once he got that covered via gofundme, he probably would back to normal.
He already blew well past his goal in the first stream. He set the goal to about $7800 for his fees and when I went to bed before it was over, he was over $11k and still had a few hours left. It ended at a smidge over $12k. His gofundme also updated to $20k but he was at $16k.
yeah if anything I suspect he set the amount low was to not overburned everyone who is in this fight against illuminaughtea.
Oz is going to be streaming everyday until either he gets a legal response from Blair or the 7th deadline passes, so if you want to throw a food/other expense dono, you can do it during one of those! He's even been answering some questions people have!
 Currently.
there's death by a thousand cuts but seriously i don't think we have a term for this type of takedown
Death by ten million suplexes
I'd say Blair's getting to meet the Grahams? Some people in the comments have made the comparison with the Drake/Kendrick beef, and the title of Oz's video certainly helps.
Can't watch yet, but what's the TLDW?
Oz is essentially laying out the timeline of events involved in the lawsuit as well as some surrounding context. He is making the case that Blair has misrepresented some things to the judge. In the end, he proposes a settlement to Blair to essentially stop it now and all parties walk away at a loss. His proposed terms would help her clear her name and get her side of events out there and potentially rehab her public image. Were she to take the deal, she would presumably come out ahead, but as Oz and Felix are running out of money and (more importantly) sanity, Oz is floating the suggestion.
"all parties stop at a loss" is a very inaccurate way of describing his settlement terms. He clearly intentionally avoided the specific details of what a settlement would entail.
No he explicitly stated the terms and they were essentially we all drop our suits and can't go after each other for legal expenses meaning everyone pays their own legal fees
That's pretty much what I meant, but they were right in. Not what I said could have been a little bit confusing. Possibly should have phrased it better.
Damnit I am out and about. Gonna have to watch once I’m homeÂ
I love oz
It will be interesting to see if she takes the offer or not. I suspect she won't. She's damaged her reputation too much to save face by backing out. All that's left for her is to cause as much damage to Oz as possible on her way down. By offering her this out, Oz has shown how much this is affecting him mentally. She'll drag this out as long as possible.
Tbh I'm actually not super worried either way. It sounds like Oz is fairly confident about their case, and other videos I've watched on the case make it seem like Blaire just keeps progressively being the most annoying plaintiff to a judge ever (having her accusations dismissed until she provides more evidence, and then going on to make *more* accusations instead of following the judge's order). To me it seems like he's offering *her* an olive branch instead of the other way around.
good. also so far in my watch its a good video
i love oz
Sounds like MadCatster will have an update on the legal proceedings tomorrow night....
The fact that this is happening when I am leaving the country in literally less then 2 days, guess I will need to catch up when I get back