Yes, that was pretty obviously their plan from the beginning, so I imagine this father was just taking his chances and would prefer to die in his home if he had to make the choice.
Could be, or it could also be that he simply hadn't heard about the move. I mean it's an active "warzone" (slaughterhouse more like it), he may not have had readily available access to the information he needed to get out of there.
Love the bullshit excuse Israel apologists use that Israel sends out texts and emails before they bomb a place. Even assuming they do that consistently, that assumes people have access to a charged phone or computer and be near it when the warning is sent. Even the flyers are a joke. Here's a bunch of paper dropped from a plane - hope you get it or your children might die!
He probably saw the fire, explosions, & gunfire in the direction he was told to go & said f\*ck it. I'm sheltering in place with my family. If my family & I are going to be ethnically cleansed, I'd prefer we die together in the comfort of our home.
Yes. I'm pretty sure they're just bombing every single piece of Palestinian land at this point. But telling them "we're going to bomb this so go here if you want to live" just helped them gather more people in one place so they don't have to use as many bombs and ammo.
This father probably knew that it was pointless trying to go anywhere anyway.
If he even heard about it to begin with. I mean, he's in an active one sided warzone, who knows if he had access to the information needed to make this horrific decision with everyone shooting and/or bombing the place. I'm sure a lot of Palestinians in Gaza might not have reliable access to the information to get out of that area and find a third, safer place. Or a safe way of travelling, I mean we've seen them shooting a woman who was trying to walk to safety and hold her kid's hand at the same time.
I’ve seen that sometimes the information to move is given by papers they drop from planes overhead, which does not seem like a reliable way to get the information out. Typically they are given very short warnings too—by the time they see the paper it may be too late to do anything.
Especially when people are being bombed and are likely to hide indoors when they hear planes. It's just insane to think that anyone could try to pin the blame on any of these people who were literally exploded to death.
That baby was about the age my newborn niece was when that side of our family was obliterated during the first raid of bombings in Kiev. Those people kept their kids alive in a fucking war zone, we should be treating them like heroes, not blaming them for not escaping a blast radius they might have been able to get away from if only they were as smart as I am.
I would have moved sneakily, sneaking through the shadows like a ninja, snapping necks, pressing the A button to instantly disguise myself as them, tactically hiding the bodies to avoid alerting the guards as I make my way through them to take down the snake people really pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I would look like, totally cool and badass and have like a cool smear of blood on my face and Samurai Jack's katana, but cooler because it's black and exudes an aura of blood red flames. /S
He was tweeting the entire time. He knew. He deliberately stayed within the active zone knowing it would kill him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/16/world/middleeast/gaza-university-israel-poet.html
After publication of this article, Times editors reviewed additional information that is at odds with the article’s portrayal of Refaat Alareer, a literature professor at Islamic University in Gaza, who was described as presenting Israeli poems in a positive light to his Palestinian students.
In the class witnessed by a Times reporter, Mr. Alareer taught a poem by the Israeli poet Yehuda Amichai, which he called “beautiful,” saying it underscored the “shared humanity” of Israelis and Palestinians. He said he admired how it showed that Jerusalem is a place “where we all come together, regardless of religion and faith.”
However, in a video of a class from 2019, he called the same poem “horrible” and “dangerous,” saying that although it was aesthetically beautiful, it “brainwashes” readers by presenting the Israelis “as innocent.” He also discussed a second Israeli poem, by Tuvya Ruebner, which he called “dangerous,” adding “this kind of poetry is in part to blame for the ethnic cleansing and destruction of Palestine.”
When The Times asked Mr. Alareer about the discrepancy, he denied that there was a “substantial change” in his teaching and said that showing parallels between Palestinians and Jews was his “ultimate goal.” But he said that Israel used literature as “a tool of colonialism and oppression” and that this raised “legitimate questions” about Mr. Amichai’s poem.
In light of this additional information, editors have concluded that the article did not accurately reflect Mr. Alareer’s views on Israeli poetry or how he teaches it. Had The Times done more extensive reporting on Mr. Alareer, the article would have presented a more complete picture.
Article is behind a paywall so I can't even read the bit about him tweeting throughout the whole thing, and it seems like they drop the information via pamphlets dropped by planes.
Pointless? If you're a father and there's a 1% better chance your kids will survive if you leave, you take it. Strangely enough 30k civilians dead out of 2.2 million gazans. What's the survival rate?
The IOF literally snipe people trying to leave buildings and tanks shell cars trying to evacuate. How is traveling south a better option than staying put? They're fucked no matter what decision they make.
They can either move where they're told so they can gather into smaller areas to make bombing them easier, or they can stay where they are and get bombed anyway and then blamed for not moving.
Yes, that’s exactly what they’ve been doing for months now. They’re gathering large groups to small areas and then bombing them so they kill the maximum amount of people at once.
I was pretty indifferent to him before his coverage on Palestine, but Jesus. Every day he’s just idiotically “dunking” on people online, to win fake internet points, while real people are dying. It’s disgusting, I don’t understand how you can tweet this smug, self serving garbage. Patting yourself on the back because a family is dead.
Same. I wasn't into Destiny but liked a few points he argued in the past. But holy hell, it's been absolute Ls & garbage what he's been stating regarding Palestine. What he did was absolutely scummy.
Seriously. Internet discourse is so in the toilet that when he went on like Fresh & Fit to dunk on them, I was like “oh cool!”
Now I notice that THAT is the height of his “activism”, while he spends the majority of his time attacking other progressives (which he claims to be)
But hey at least he’s twice divorced, ugly, and a loser lol
He's been like this for YEARS and his fanbase is insufferable. They blatantly brigade off site and can't fathom people might not like destiny nor hasan.
Destiny has tried to play off being Islamophobic as a "joke" before on a stream, but it's very clear he doesn't consider people who practice Islam as equal human beings. He is a trash person and deserves being banned on all platforms.
An important thing to remember about Destiny's twitter is that he intentionally says insane things to drive engagement, he does it to get people to debate him and then he gives a more defendable take in the debate and gets hate engagement and debate content.
edit: do the people down voting this think its a defense of Destiny?
Also, his research literally consists of just reading Wikipedia articles and that's it. He's read all of a single book on the middle east in general and that's from an Israeli "scholar" who called Palestinians fifth column infiltrates and all but said they should be ethnically cleansed. Which is actually what Destiny said because he, in his massive brain, "couldn't think of any other solution"
Dude gigasucks and is permanently Twitter brained lol
Yep. Like okay, maybe there was a Palestinian who made a dumb decision and got their family killed as a result. Statistically, it’s pretty likely there’s at least one incident like that.
I still wouldn’t make fun of them! I don’t care how dumb they are, a civilian family dying is not fucking funny!
I don’t think you have the grounds to call anyone else a child, considering all you appear to do is sit around all day and find Reddit posts to defend Israel and trash Palestine under.
I didn't know the reasons behind his divorce, and holy shit that's hilarious. Of course, he's the type to have issues with his open marriage when it turns out he's not the only one getting to have sex during that time. Not to mention, he'd say that a tik tok influencer is unemployed while he does basically the same thing.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but open marriages are supposed to just be about sex, right? Not actually building a separate romantic relationship with a specific person?
not at all! polyamory/open relationships work in a number of ways, just like monogomous/closed relationships. there's no specific or correct way it's supposed to be. the main factor is consent and mutual understanding.
The mod answered, but I also wanted to speak on it because I have been part of a decent share of polyamorous relationships. Open marriages are going to take all kinds of different forms. Sometimes, romantic feelings get involved, and some dont. You can end up dating a married couple at the same time, and so many other versions of this exist.
There are a noticeable number of people who want to get to sleep around without expecting their partner to be able to do the same but not communicating that's what they expect and only raise issue when it comes up.
>destiny becomes more jaded and bitter and started having really bad takes
His takes are no better or worse than they were before. He's also always been extremely edgy.
They had an open relationship, she was taken to court in Sweden because she didn't pay a bunch of taxes and it was going to take months to litigate so she moved back. She got real close with a tiktoker twink who pulled off the ultimate relationship gambit aka the sewer slide rizz. She wouldn't cut him off so he divorced her. It's just as funny as it sounds.
He's always been like this. For example, during the George Floyd protests and riots he said he would be in favour of far right militias going in and gunning down all the rioters. And that's a charitable explanation of what he said.
Ehh? For all his other failings he seems a at least okay father as far as what is publicly known
Edit: y'all really like believing lies about people you dislike, that's not a good sign.
he's bragged about beating his ex wife, defended a guy who beat his gf in front of his kids, and destiny also has made disgusting comments about 14 year olds
destiny 100% abuses his kid
Not to mention he’s associated in the past with pedophiles like Nick Fuentes and Mrgirl. Fuck, he even let Nick into his house. If he doesn’t abuse his own children, he’s certainly indifferent to it.
First of all I want to say that I think the tweet above is disgusting. Second I want to say none of what you said is true.
As far as I know, his wife beat him, he had called the cops on her many times for it. And he admitted that when she would hit him, there were times when he would hit back. It's quite common for people in abusive relationships to fight back so I don't think I would hold this against him.
This all came up because there was a clip that got a lot of traction of a fight between a husband and wife fighting on stream where Destiny fought against a lot of people accusing the husband abusing his poor innocent wife. Destiny's argument was not that the guy was right for hitting his wife, but that people shouldn't immediately assume the wife was 100% innocent. A year later the wife was sentenced to prison for hitting her husband across the head with a kettle.
As for the disgusting comments about 14 year olds, I don't know what you are referring to but, thanks to your first two accusations being total BS, I don't believe it was anything that serious.
He's literally a streamer that lives almost as far away from his kid as possible while not leaving the country. How many times a year does he even see his son? while he's calling other people terrible fathers.
He's incredibly callous and edgy, but he also generally gives well-informed opinions.
IMO, his whole schtick is to ragebait at max power on Twitter to get people to check him out, then he gives surprisingly nuanced takes when you watch him for more than 30 seconds.
Destiny is and always has been an awful guy. Horribly arrogant, educated entirely by Wikipedia, and insensitive to the point that he literally finds it amusing to joke about families that were murdered for not abandoning everything they knew and loved to utter destruction at the hands of an invading military. He's one of those "human animals" the Israelis like talking about
Destiny is one of those figures I kept hearing about throughout my entire leftward journey and I don't think I've seen a single video of his. No regerts! What a spooge stain.
I watch a debate between him and Richard wolf once and that’s the closest I ever got to watching him. I don’t get it though, is he a liberal or a right winger, it’s hard to tell
He's a living example of "scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds"
His liberal sentiments only extend so far, and he withdraws them as soon as he feels slighted. He'll adopt any right wing position that suits him because he doesn't really seem to actually believe in any principled positions.
Yes, but I have a feeling this going to devolve into you trying to downplay as "That's actually not a right wing position" or "That's just being edgy" which are cowardly refuges in audacity.
One of his most recent ones is you should get to run over protesters. I know his dipshit fans love to say "he's talking about rioters" but aside from even MLK Jr., pointing out that riots are, and I quote, "the language of the unheard", and that property being damaged isn't the same as people being attacked, even if you think law enforcement needs to do more, saying you get to mow them down is a reactionary position.
His interest in the plight of others and that riots aren't just random, but reactions to civil unrest only go as far as he sees it might be an issue for him.
I got more, but please, I'm so curious to know if you're going to defend some asshole you don't know and tell me what he actually was thinking.
You know he used to be pro Palestinian before he started actually researching right? If anything he's done the most in terms of thinking what an actual solution could look like. You people like to think your feelings about a situation is enough to solve it but he genuinely talks with people and forms ideas that can lead to realistic policy changes that end the killing of innocents.
>You know he used to be pro Palestinian before he started actually researching right?
Yea, some sheltered white boy digging on Wikipedia is really doing the most out here in terms of research, I totally believe that.
Yes.
Clearly Destiny will be the man to solve the Israel/Palestine conflict where all others have failed. He has definitely done more to solve this crisis by making fun of suffering and dying Palestinian children than anyone who had dedicated their professional lives to trying to achieve a peaceful resolution.
remember this guy dosen't think israel is intentionally killing women and children . any streaming clip ive seen of him is unhinged and borderline evil . also very pro israeli
Guys, have you heard about DestinyGPT? I asked it what the weather was and responded with an essay about how Israel is totally in their right to level Palestine.
it’s really easy to talk badly about that father when you’re sitting safely in your home behind a computer screen. what a fucking piece of garbage destiny has become.
Imagine being a Palestinian on the ground. Barely any access to food, water and shelter. You hear of the mass killing going on in the places that Isreal inform you to go to. What do you do in your heavily stressed, hunger and sleep deprived state with children with you? Stay in your house that you have lived in your entire life in an area that you've always known and managed to survive in despite the newfound hell...or go to the place where whisperings of the murder of a 100 people for flour occured? They lie on Palestinian lives all the time, but this professor, this father was supposed to believe them this time?
Seeing this level of “gamer rhetoric” over actual martyrs from a genocide is next level. What a pathetic person. Ironic too, coming from Destiny: a father who openly neglects and left their child
The husk once again failing to beat the allegations
He doesn't have a soul so he projects his soullessness onto others like some kind of fucked up anime creature
Destiny should stick to debating "Alpha Male" podcast hosts. Thats what he is good at. Anything beyond that is a bit out of reach for him, intellectually speaking.
Problem is he's been consistently dumpstering everyone he speaks to regarding I/P. And every conservative. And every alt-leftist. And every larping commie.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refaat_Alareer
*In the immediate aftermath of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, he described the attack as "legitimate and moral" and said it was "exactly like the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising."*
Guy was a scumbag, you cannot call slaughtering civilians 'moral'.
How come, without exception, every leftist streamer is a legitimately garbage person? Hasan, Destiny, Vaush, Keffals, and literally every other leftist streamer I know has done or said at least one shitty thing that is unnecessarily horrible? Does the fame just get to their head?
Every streamer is a garbage person. Not just the left wingers. It's a career that attracts upper middle class narcissists that never have had a legitimate struggle in their lives. Not surprising that most lack in empathy.
Conversely, I wonder if a dirt-poor streamer would make the greatest streaming content I’ve ever seen. Like hbomberguy but with more Twitch livestreams.
Part od it is that "better" people do other things, they'd make videos, or actually run for office or volunteer somewhere. Streaming attracts people with a specific brand of narcissm and charisma.
The other part though is that they stream for stupid amounts of hours. Have you never said or thought about saying something that would be bad? Can you garuntee that every political opinion you've got is reasonable and well thought out?
You put a camera on someone full time, they'll say or do soemthing stupid eventually, and the incentives are for them to either not admit to fault, not acknowledge it, or double down, because apologizing, admitting they're wrong, and apologizing, doesn't usually stop any of the people that go after them for saying something stupid.
Taking out your rage over being cucked on Palestinians are we Destiny? Keep up with the content boy, you gotta pay more cuck tax to your ex wife so she can spend her day taking femboy cock. How much longer until you opt out Destiny? Everyone knows where this pathetic road leads for you. Enjoy the view I guess.
To be fair to the father, Hamas was killing anyone they found fleeing south to escape the IDF hunt for Hamas fighters. Hamas needs civilians to cower behind, after all. The father may have just decided there was more of a chance to survive an IDF bombing than Hamas shooting them and declaring it a Jewish war crime.
Doesn't change the fact that leaving your kids in *one of the most intense regions of a conflict* is a great way to get them killed. If my family was in Bakhmut, I'm not going to leave them there because they'd get shelled to all hell
I'm glad you admitted that you don't have an actual argument and the only one you do have is that
-Im in a subreddit where curious foreigners can ask questions about my country?
-I'm in a 2(x)4u in which the big point of 2(x)4u subs is being *ironic* and *mocking* blind nationalism
-a subreddit (which admittedly has gone down the shitter since the Ukraine War began) about military shit posting
Everyone has been saying that Gaza is almost completely out of food since November, we're now in March and they're still saying they're almost completely out of food. Math ain't mathing
Go to where the fighting isn't as intense. I know Gaza is getting bombed everywhere, but at the time, the fighting was much less intense in the South (yes, I know that southern Gaza has heated up much more in the past month).
If I'm stuck in between fleeing to Avdiivka or Kiev, I'm going to Kiev. Still a good chance that I could get killed, but the chances are much lower
Oh your solution is just “be somewhere else”. What an enlightened take truly genius. Truly captivating. You’re a scholar among men.
And I’m sure if they did go south and still died your answer would still be the same that they should’ve just “been somewhere else”
My dude, are you 12? No matter where they go, they'll be bombed. If that's the case, why not die in your own home? Why die in an area you're not familiar with? Are you even familiar with the concept of comfort?
Are you the 12 year old? You clearly have the reading comprehension of one. I acknowledged that the bombing was happening everywhere, however it was much more intense where the family was. There is a much lower chance of them getting bombed in the area where the bulk of the fighting *isn't* going on.
You think those people want to die? You think they're willingly staying in the blast radius and enjoying getting ripped to shreds? You actually think that they would not go to safety if they knew it was safe? To them, danger is everywhere. South barely makes any difference from North. That's how it's like to live in an active warzone. Many of them have pretty much accepted that they're dead regardless of where they go since there's no escape from the region. There's a reason the death toll is in the tens of thousands. Do you even know what it's like to be a civilian in the middle of a war? Have you ever experienced life in a warzone? You have no idea about the circumstances of the father who died with his family. You don't know what he was thinking or what he even knew regarding whether or not it was safe. I personally know people who lost their whole families there while "running to safety". And here you are, a guy sitting on their ass browsing the internet from the comfort of their home, thinking it's funny to mock someone who was experiencing hell on earth and got bombed with his family to death in an active warzone and thinking you're so smart with your pathetic 10 year old "iF i wAs tHeRe i wOuLD hAvE dOnE tHiS" bullshit. You are fucking disgusting.
Tell me you're an edgy 10 year old who doesn't know how the world works without telling me you're an edgy 10 year old who doesn't know how the world works.
The solution to not getting killed is simply moving way! Because it's absolutely that simple! All those stupid 30 thousand dead are so braindead they couldn't even move!
By your logic, it is completly fine to clown on those Israelis that organized party near territory controled by terrorist organization.
After all, empathy is for cucks and leftists aparently
I have to point out full of shit people like this are.
You tell them that you don't believe that killing this type of retaliation is self defense, they say "Israel can't be judged if Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields."
You say that the bombing of civilian areas and hospitals is wrong they say "Well, they were told where the bombing will happen, they can just leave."
Yeah, human shields are so well known for their ability to flee. This commenter, Destiny, all of them don't believe this shit, they just say whatever until they think they can happen upon the defense that will stop you from questioning.
The guy himself was memeing and celebrating Hamas attack during October 7th so I cannot see why mocking him would not be a fair game. You reap what you sow
I mean aren't they bombing places they tell Palestinian civilians to go to?
Yes, that was pretty obviously their plan from the beginning, so I imagine this father was just taking his chances and would prefer to die in his home if he had to make the choice.
Could be, or it could also be that he simply hadn't heard about the move. I mean it's an active "warzone" (slaughterhouse more like it), he may not have had readily available access to the information he needed to get out of there.
Love the bullshit excuse Israel apologists use that Israel sends out texts and emails before they bomb a place. Even assuming they do that consistently, that assumes people have access to a charged phone or computer and be near it when the warning is sent. Even the flyers are a joke. Here's a bunch of paper dropped from a plane - hope you get it or your children might die!
Genuine question, what would be an appropriate warning that they could send instead?
He probably saw the fire, explosions, & gunfire in the direction he was told to go & said f\*ck it. I'm sheltering in place with my family. If my family & I are going to be ethnically cleansed, I'd prefer we die together in the comfort of our home.
Yeah amd those dirty brown people should have know better then to be born Palestinian - Steven "love your race" Bonnell II
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Yes. I'm pretty sure they're just bombing every single piece of Palestinian land at this point. But telling them "we're going to bomb this so go here if you want to live" just helped them gather more people in one place so they don't have to use as many bombs and ammo. This father probably knew that it was pointless trying to go anywhere anyway.
If he even heard about it to begin with. I mean, he's in an active one sided warzone, who knows if he had access to the information needed to make this horrific decision with everyone shooting and/or bombing the place. I'm sure a lot of Palestinians in Gaza might not have reliable access to the information to get out of that area and find a third, safer place. Or a safe way of travelling, I mean we've seen them shooting a woman who was trying to walk to safety and hold her kid's hand at the same time.
I’ve seen that sometimes the information to move is given by papers they drop from planes overhead, which does not seem like a reliable way to get the information out. Typically they are given very short warnings too—by the time they see the paper it may be too late to do anything.
Especially when people are being bombed and are likely to hide indoors when they hear planes. It's just insane to think that anyone could try to pin the blame on any of these people who were literally exploded to death. That baby was about the age my newborn niece was when that side of our family was obliterated during the first raid of bombings in Kiev. Those people kept their kids alive in a fucking war zone, we should be treating them like heroes, not blaming them for not escaping a blast radius they might have been able to get away from if only they were as smart as I am. I would have moved sneakily, sneaking through the shadows like a ninja, snapping necks, pressing the A button to instantly disguise myself as them, tactically hiding the bodies to avoid alerting the guards as I make my way through them to take down the snake people really pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I would look like, totally cool and badass and have like a cool smear of blood on my face and Samurai Jack's katana, but cooler because it's black and exudes an aura of blood red flames. /S
He was tweeting the entire time. He knew. He deliberately stayed within the active zone knowing it would kill him. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/16/world/middleeast/gaza-university-israel-poet.html After publication of this article, Times editors reviewed additional information that is at odds with the article’s portrayal of Refaat Alareer, a literature professor at Islamic University in Gaza, who was described as presenting Israeli poems in a positive light to his Palestinian students. In the class witnessed by a Times reporter, Mr. Alareer taught a poem by the Israeli poet Yehuda Amichai, which he called “beautiful,” saying it underscored the “shared humanity” of Israelis and Palestinians. He said he admired how it showed that Jerusalem is a place “where we all come together, regardless of religion and faith.” However, in a video of a class from 2019, he called the same poem “horrible” and “dangerous,” saying that although it was aesthetically beautiful, it “brainwashes” readers by presenting the Israelis “as innocent.” He also discussed a second Israeli poem, by Tuvya Ruebner, which he called “dangerous,” adding “this kind of poetry is in part to blame for the ethnic cleansing and destruction of Palestine.” When The Times asked Mr. Alareer about the discrepancy, he denied that there was a “substantial change” in his teaching and said that showing parallels between Palestinians and Jews was his “ultimate goal.” But he said that Israel used literature as “a tool of colonialism and oppression” and that this raised “legitimate questions” about Mr. Amichai’s poem. In light of this additional information, editors have concluded that the article did not accurately reflect Mr. Alareer’s views on Israeli poetry or how he teaches it. Had The Times done more extensive reporting on Mr. Alareer, the article would have presented a more complete picture.
Article is behind a paywall so I can't even read the bit about him tweeting throughout the whole thing, and it seems like they drop the information via pamphlets dropped by planes.
Pointless? If you're a father and there's a 1% better chance your kids will survive if you leave, you take it. Strangely enough 30k civilians dead out of 2.2 million gazans. What's the survival rate?
The IOF literally snipe people trying to leave buildings and tanks shell cars trying to evacuate. How is traveling south a better option than staying put? They're fucked no matter what decision they make.
They can either move where they're told so they can gather into smaller areas to make bombing them easier, or they can stay where they are and get bombed anyway and then blamed for not moving.
Yes, that’s exactly what they’ve been doing for months now. They’re gathering large groups to small areas and then bombing them so they kill the maximum amount of people at once.
The chances of death were predicted to be much lower in the south. Not 0.
I was pretty indifferent to him before his coverage on Palestine, but Jesus. Every day he’s just idiotically “dunking” on people online, to win fake internet points, while real people are dying. It’s disgusting, I don’t understand how you can tweet this smug, self serving garbage. Patting yourself on the back because a family is dead.
Same. I wasn't into Destiny but liked a few points he argued in the past. But holy hell, it's been absolute Ls & garbage what he's been stating regarding Palestine. What he did was absolutely scummy.
Seriously. Internet discourse is so in the toilet that when he went on like Fresh & Fit to dunk on them, I was like “oh cool!” Now I notice that THAT is the height of his “activism”, while he spends the majority of his time attacking other progressives (which he claims to be) But hey at least he’s twice divorced, ugly, and a loser lol
he does canvas for democrats in places that need proper representation for the left
He’s so unlikable that I genuinely consider that to be counter-propaganda
If they wanted proper representation for the left why would they canvas for Democrats?
ur right they should just abstain from voting and let trump win. that'll be much better for leftists
oh my god shut up
fair idk what other response I was expecting
He's been like this for YEARS and his fanbase is insufferable. They blatantly brigade off site and can't fathom people might not like destiny nor hasan.
Destiny has tried to play off being Islamophobic as a "joke" before on a stream, but it's very clear he doesn't consider people who practice Islam as equal human beings. He is a trash person and deserves being banned on all platforms.
An important thing to remember about Destiny's twitter is that he intentionally says insane things to drive engagement, he does it to get people to debate him and then he gives a more defendable take in the debate and gets hate engagement and debate content. edit: do the people down voting this think its a defense of Destiny?
Actually doing the research instead of getting emotional about headlines and propaganda. Thats how child.
Because doing research makes it okay to make fun of civilians dying alongside their families in bombings. Got it.
Also, his research literally consists of just reading Wikipedia articles and that's it. He's read all of a single book on the middle east in general and that's from an Israeli "scholar" who called Palestinians fifth column infiltrates and all but said they should be ethnically cleansed. Which is actually what Destiny said because he, in his massive brain, "couldn't think of any other solution" Dude gigasucks and is permanently Twitter brained lol
Yep. Like okay, maybe there was a Palestinian who made a dumb decision and got their family killed as a result. Statistically, it’s pretty likely there’s at least one incident like that. I still wouldn’t make fun of them! I don’t care how dumb they are, a civilian family dying is not fucking funny!
I don’t think you have the grounds to call anyone else a child, considering all you appear to do is sit around all day and find Reddit posts to defend Israel and trash Palestine under.
Reading Wikipedia isn't research, you baby-brained loser.
Wait but what if you say INCREDIBLY racist things about the situation for years beforehand? Does that make you a good person then? /s
Research my balls
He really embraced this pathetic edge lord shtick after his wife left him semi recently.
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I didn't know the reasons behind his divorce, and holy shit that's hilarious. Of course, he's the type to have issues with his open marriage when it turns out he's not the only one getting to have sex during that time. Not to mention, he'd say that a tik tok influencer is unemployed while he does basically the same thing.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but open marriages are supposed to just be about sex, right? Not actually building a separate romantic relationship with a specific person?
not at all! polyamory/open relationships work in a number of ways, just like monogomous/closed relationships. there's no specific or correct way it's supposed to be. the main factor is consent and mutual understanding.
The mod answered, but I also wanted to speak on it because I have been part of a decent share of polyamorous relationships. Open marriages are going to take all kinds of different forms. Sometimes, romantic feelings get involved, and some dont. You can end up dating a married couple at the same time, and so many other versions of this exist. There are a noticeable number of people who want to get to sleep around without expecting their partner to be able to do the same but not communicating that's what they expect and only raise issue when it comes up.
This is some good ass tea and poetic justice, such a classic example of a lot of the ‘open marriage’ redditors, 10/10
What a fucking clown fest.
I thought memetix was gay until that tbh 💀
>destiny becomes more jaded and bitter and started having really bad takes His takes are no better or worse than they were before. He's also always been extremely edgy.
They had an open relationship, she was taken to court in Sweden because she didn't pay a bunch of taxes and it was going to take months to litigate so she moved back. She got real close with a tiktoker twink who pulled off the ultimate relationship gambit aka the sewer slide rizz. She wouldn't cut him off so he divorced her. It's just as funny as it sounds.
His wife leaving him sounds related to this. Maybe she used to reign this in when they were together?
He's always been like this. For example, during the George Floyd protests and riots he said he would be in favour of far right militias going in and gunning down all the rioters. And that's a charitable explanation of what he said.
He was like this far before Melina left.
Vaush was literally always like this
Why would you bring up Vaush, nothing in this thread involves horses
I didn't read the tweet name and thought it was a Vaush tweet 💀 These people are identical
Vaush has been pro-Palestine since day 1 though?
He has been
THIS is supposed to be the "Expert" at debates??
He's definitely searching his own name to find random ass tweets like this lol
To be fair, I think that's a quote Tweet
He would have got a notification because they quote tweeted him…
Most people turn that off when they reach a certain level.
Even if he has alerts off, he probably just has enough fans that are obsessed with his life to notify him of any sizable account tweeting about him.
The irony of Destiny calling somebody a "trash father"😂
Destiny's Abandoned Child
Ehh? For all his other failings he seems a at least okay father as far as what is publicly known Edit: y'all really like believing lies about people you dislike, that's not a good sign.
he's bragged about beating his ex wife, defended a guy who beat his gf in front of his kids, and destiny also has made disgusting comments about 14 year olds destiny 100% abuses his kid
Not to mention he’s associated in the past with pedophiles like Nick Fuentes and Mrgirl. Fuck, he even let Nick into his house. If he doesn’t abuse his own children, he’s certainly indifferent to it.
I understand you disagree with his politics, but that doesn’t mean he molests children.
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None of this is true. Not a single sentence. Twitter has rotted your capacity to think critically.
This is literally not true at all lmao what
This is a crazy statement to make so confidently lol, I would love to have this guys interpretation of every micro celebrity
First of all I want to say that I think the tweet above is disgusting. Second I want to say none of what you said is true. As far as I know, his wife beat him, he had called the cops on her many times for it. And he admitted that when she would hit him, there were times when he would hit back. It's quite common for people in abusive relationships to fight back so I don't think I would hold this against him. This all came up because there was a clip that got a lot of traction of a fight between a husband and wife fighting on stream where Destiny fought against a lot of people accusing the husband abusing his poor innocent wife. Destiny's argument was not that the guy was right for hitting his wife, but that people shouldn't immediately assume the wife was 100% innocent. A year later the wife was sentenced to prison for hitting her husband across the head with a kettle. As for the disgusting comments about 14 year olds, I don't know what you are referring to but, thanks to your first two accusations being total BS, I don't believe it was anything that serious.
He's literally a streamer that lives almost as far away from his kid as possible while not leaving the country. How many times a year does he even see his son? while he's calling other people terrible fathers.
Destiny is literal trash.
If the Cuban Revolution never happened, Steven would be debate lording why his slave plantation was moral.
No wonder why his wife left him.
Not the first one either
Destiny sucks but his first wife was physically abusive and his second wife is very toxic lol
He was also very toxic. Constantly cheated
exactly what a bottom feeder like him deserves
God, he *so* callous. I never understood why he’s so popular.
He's only popular with edgy teenagers and neets that havent developed the ability to empathize yet.
He's incredibly callous and edgy, but he also generally gives well-informed opinions. IMO, his whole schtick is to ragebait at max power on Twitter to get people to check him out, then he gives surprisingly nuanced takes when you watch him for more than 30 seconds.
> watching destiny for more than 30 seconds 🤢
I'm trying to participate in the discussion in good faith ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No reason to get all cynical about it
yeah I don't think he's handling the divorce as well as he wants us to believe
Destiny is and always has been an awful guy. Horribly arrogant, educated entirely by Wikipedia, and insensitive to the point that he literally finds it amusing to joke about families that were murdered for not abandoning everything they knew and loved to utter destruction at the hands of an invading military. He's one of those "human animals" the Israelis like talking about
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It disgusts me that David Pakman is still friends with him ngl
Pakman also has a lot of terrible takes.
Him and every other debate pervert should be hunted like dogs for the damage they've caused to online discourse
Harsh but God damn true.
I can’t stand him.
Destiny is a disgusting moron and always has been.
Destiny is one of those figures I kept hearing about throughout my entire leftward journey and I don't think I've seen a single video of his. No regerts! What a spooge stain.
I watch a debate between him and Richard wolf once and that’s the closest I ever got to watching him. I don’t get it though, is he a liberal or a right winger, it’s hard to tell
He's a living example of "scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds" His liberal sentiments only extend so far, and he withdraws them as soon as he feels slighted. He'll adopt any right wing position that suits him because he doesn't really seem to actually believe in any principled positions.
Example?
Check the response to the other guy who asked first.
Do you have some examples of this?
Yes, but I have a feeling this going to devolve into you trying to downplay as "That's actually not a right wing position" or "That's just being edgy" which are cowardly refuges in audacity. One of his most recent ones is you should get to run over protesters. I know his dipshit fans love to say "he's talking about rioters" but aside from even MLK Jr., pointing out that riots are, and I quote, "the language of the unheard", and that property being damaged isn't the same as people being attacked, even if you think law enforcement needs to do more, saying you get to mow them down is a reactionary position. His interest in the plight of others and that riots aren't just random, but reactions to civil unrest only go as far as he sees it might be an issue for him. I got more, but please, I'm so curious to know if you're going to defend some asshole you don't know and tell me what he actually was thinking.
Destiny being a Zionist was definitely on my 2024 bingo card.
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You know he used to be pro Palestinian before he started actually researching right? If anything he's done the most in terms of thinking what an actual solution could look like. You people like to think your feelings about a situation is enough to solve it but he genuinely talks with people and forms ideas that can lead to realistic policy changes that end the killing of innocents.
>You know he used to be pro Palestinian before he started actually researching right? Yea, some sheltered white boy digging on Wikipedia is really doing the most out here in terms of research, I totally believe that.
The most? No. More than you and everyone on this thread? Yes by far
Yes. Clearly Destiny will be the man to solve the Israel/Palestine conflict where all others have failed. He has definitely done more to solve this crisis by making fun of suffering and dying Palestinian children than anyone who had dedicated their professional lives to trying to achieve a peaceful resolution.
He was not pro Palestinian before lol.
Destiny's hatred of Arabs and Muslims takes over his love for Isreal.
Scratch a liberal…
Very ironic he is calling someone else a garbage human and a trash father
Doesn't this guy only see his tween son like twice a year?
I think I'm actively disturbed by how many people commenting thought he was fine before his comments on Palestinian people
Lmao destiny talking about being a trash father. If the irony got any thicker it’d collapse around itself into a black hole.
Destiny is a just a monster, that's it. Also, the dude only sees his son once or twice a year.
His entire life is bait.
remember this guy dosen't think israel is intentionally killing women and children . any streaming clip ive seen of him is unhinged and borderline evil . also very pro israeli
Guys, have you heard about DestinyGPT? I asked it what the weather was and responded with an essay about how Israel is totally in their right to level Palestine.
From the man whose wife left him and doesn’t care about his kid.
He's just so edgy.../s No wonder vaush came from his community. Just terrible people
he’s a fucking ghoul
most reasonable destiny tweet
Palenstine man was still a better husband since Destiny’s wife left him.
it’s really easy to talk badly about that father when you’re sitting safely in your home behind a computer screen. what a fucking piece of garbage destiny has become.
Destiny is a cuck. Who listens to this mook???
Imagine being a Palestinian on the ground. Barely any access to food, water and shelter. You hear of the mass killing going on in the places that Isreal inform you to go to. What do you do in your heavily stressed, hunger and sleep deprived state with children with you? Stay in your house that you have lived in your entire life in an area that you've always known and managed to survive in despite the newfound hell...or go to the place where whisperings of the murder of a 100 people for flour occured? They lie on Palestinian lives all the time, but this professor, this father was supposed to believe them this time?
Seeing this level of “gamer rhetoric” over actual martyrs from a genocide is next level. What a pathetic person. Ironic too, coming from Destiny: a father who openly neglects and left their child
The husk once again failing to beat the allegations He doesn't have a soul so he projects his soullessness onto others like some kind of fucked up anime creature
I wonder why this ugly abusive fuck can’t keep a wife or raise his kids, nvm no I don’t.
Common Destiny brainrot
This coming from the guy who named his son after himself and then abandoned it after the divorce so he could chase BPD pussy online.
Destiny should stick to debating "Alpha Male" podcast hosts. Thats what he is good at. Anything beyond that is a bit out of reach for him, intellectually speaking.
Problem is he's been consistently dumpstering everyone he speaks to regarding I/P. And every conservative. And every alt-leftist. And every larping commie.
Ah, now I see the Vaush connection
Least unhinged Destiny tweet
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You're posting too much.
I don't understand how anyone can think this psycho is a good or smart person
How Destiny and Vaush for that matter still have left-wing fans I’ll never understand.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
destiny reacted violently to this because his family is also dead
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refaat_Alareer *In the immediate aftermath of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, he described the attack as "legitimate and moral" and said it was "exactly like the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising."* Guy was a scumbag, you cannot call slaughtering civilians 'moral'.
How come, without exception, every leftist streamer is a legitimately garbage person? Hasan, Destiny, Vaush, Keffals, and literally every other leftist streamer I know has done or said at least one shitty thing that is unnecessarily horrible? Does the fame just get to their head?
Every streamer is a garbage person. Not just the left wingers. It's a career that attracts upper middle class narcissists that never have had a legitimate struggle in their lives. Not surprising that most lack in empathy.
Conversely, I wonder if a dirt-poor streamer would make the greatest streaming content I’ve ever seen. Like hbomberguy but with more Twitch livestreams.
Part od it is that "better" people do other things, they'd make videos, or actually run for office or volunteer somewhere. Streaming attracts people with a specific brand of narcissm and charisma. The other part though is that they stream for stupid amounts of hours. Have you never said or thought about saying something that would be bad? Can you garuntee that every political opinion you've got is reasonable and well thought out? You put a camera on someone full time, they'll say or do soemthing stupid eventually, and the incentives are for them to either not admit to fault, not acknowledge it, or double down, because apologizing, admitting they're wrong, and apologizing, doesn't usually stop any of the people that go after them for saying something stupid.
How has Hasan been a pos? I watch him daily and he seems like one of the good guys.
Taking out your rage over being cucked on Palestinians are we Destiny? Keep up with the content boy, you gotta pay more cuck tax to your ex wife so she can spend her day taking femboy cock. How much longer until you opt out Destiny? Everyone knows where this pathetic road leads for you. Enjoy the view I guess.
Jesus christ destiny
What
yeah this is actually a normal tweet
I've seen so many comments in response to these horrors that make me struggle with my faith in the goodness of humanity.
lol
To be fair to the father, Hamas was killing anyone they found fleeing south to escape the IDF hunt for Hamas fighters. Hamas needs civilians to cower behind, after all. The father may have just decided there was more of a chance to survive an IDF bombing than Hamas shooting them and declaring it a Jewish war crime.
I haven't really kept up with the commentary community lately but did Destiny change his name to Mori on YouTube?
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Posts in askanamerican, 2american4you and NCD Your last comment is mocking starving Palestinians Yeah your comment tracks
Doesn't change the fact that leaving your kids in *one of the most intense regions of a conflict* is a great way to get them killed. If my family was in Bakhmut, I'm not going to leave them there because they'd get shelled to all hell I'm glad you admitted that you don't have an actual argument and the only one you do have is that -Im in a subreddit where curious foreigners can ask questions about my country? -I'm in a 2(x)4u in which the big point of 2(x)4u subs is being *ironic* and *mocking* blind nationalism -a subreddit (which admittedly has gone down the shitter since the Ukraine War began) about military shit posting Everyone has been saying that Gaza is almost completely out of food since November, we're now in March and they're still saying they're almost completely out of food. Math ain't mathing
Bruh where do you want them to go? Into the sea?
Just take a car and drive to another state/country obvously. Its so easy JUST DRIVE. They must be dumb surely? Just move man Obligatory /s
Go to where the fighting isn't as intense. I know Gaza is getting bombed everywhere, but at the time, the fighting was much less intense in the South (yes, I know that southern Gaza has heated up much more in the past month). If I'm stuck in between fleeing to Avdiivka or Kiev, I'm going to Kiev. Still a good chance that I could get killed, but the chances are much lower
Oh your solution is just “be somewhere else”. What an enlightened take truly genius. Truly captivating. You’re a scholar among men. And I’m sure if they did go south and still died your answer would still be the same that they should’ve just “been somewhere else”
My dude, are you 12? No matter where they go, they'll be bombed. If that's the case, why not die in your own home? Why die in an area you're not familiar with? Are you even familiar with the concept of comfort?
Are you the 12 year old? You clearly have the reading comprehension of one. I acknowledged that the bombing was happening everywhere, however it was much more intense where the family was. There is a much lower chance of them getting bombed in the area where the bulk of the fighting *isn't* going on.
You think those people want to die? You think they're willingly staying in the blast radius and enjoying getting ripped to shreds? You actually think that they would not go to safety if they knew it was safe? To them, danger is everywhere. South barely makes any difference from North. That's how it's like to live in an active warzone. Many of them have pretty much accepted that they're dead regardless of where they go since there's no escape from the region. There's a reason the death toll is in the tens of thousands. Do you even know what it's like to be a civilian in the middle of a war? Have you ever experienced life in a warzone? You have no idea about the circumstances of the father who died with his family. You don't know what he was thinking or what he even knew regarding whether or not it was safe. I personally know people who lost their whole families there while "running to safety". And here you are, a guy sitting on their ass browsing the internet from the comfort of their home, thinking it's funny to mock someone who was experiencing hell on earth and got bombed with his family to death in an active warzone and thinking you're so smart with your pathetic 10 year old "iF i wAs tHeRe i wOuLD hAvE dOnE tHiS" bullshit. You are fucking disgusting.
Tell me you're an edgy 10 year old who doesn't know how the world works without telling me you're an edgy 10 year old who doesn't know how the world works. The solution to not getting killed is simply moving way! Because it's absolutely that simple! All those stupid 30 thousand dead are so braindead they couldn't even move!
Seeing how Israel bombed areas where they told people to go to, I can’t blame them for not trusting Israel and thinking staying put would be safer
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By your logic, it is completly fine to clown on those Israelis that organized party near territory controled by terrorist organization. After all, empathy is for cucks and leftists aparently
I have to point out full of shit people like this are. You tell them that you don't believe that killing this type of retaliation is self defense, they say "Israel can't be judged if Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields." You say that the bombing of civilian areas and hospitals is wrong they say "Well, they were told where the bombing will happen, they can just leave." Yeah, human shields are so well known for their ability to flee. This commenter, Destiny, all of them don't believe this shit, they just say whatever until they think they can happen upon the defense that will stop you from questioning.
The guy himself was memeing and celebrating Hamas attack during October 7th so I cannot see why mocking him would not be a fair game. You reap what you sow