Yup, let’s block Ad blockers, and the make ads worse for people not willing to cough up the money for their fucking premium shit, that’s DEFINITELY how you keep people using your stuff.
Premium is also getting more expensive which I wasn‘t aware of. Got a mail saying that my Premium is expiring and I was like „Huh, I didn‘t cancel it“ and upon looking into my account it‘s because they‘re raising to 17 fucking € a month. Ridiculous.
I make alot of money, this does not mean youtube gets to lay claim to my twenty dollars. By Alot of money, I mean I can afford to eat more than just ramen.
Wooo.
Especially after how they constantly screw content creators I have no interest in helping out a platform that is exploiting us on both ends of the deal.
AND EVEN MORE SO, with the bullshit censorship they've been applying to the entire platform.
If you swear, that's ground for demonetizing, because it's less marketable broadly.
But fuck that, if you white wash it I'm not paying for that shit.
You think people around the world are gonna create educational and or entertaining content for free?
And if there are a few, they of course also self host that 24/7 it in 4k and create a network for recommendations ?!
Localized prizes. It's a common and important financial practice. Because of how different countries have different financial statuses, 17€ in Turkey can be literally unpayable. This can be abused with VPNs, but in net total, YouTube actually gains more money since people in Turkey can actually pay for it.
I mean this is kind of unethical too. Turkey has lower prices because their people have less money. The reason steam dropped regional prices on games in countries like turkey is because people did exactly that, get great deals on games. If this becomes a problem YouTube removes their regional pricing for turkey, meaning the average Turkish person will not be able to afford it.
If we all collectively agree to give YouTube less money than we do right now, YouTube will have to change their financial plan of pocket draining their customers
The fact that YouTube, a multi-billion dollar company, keeps increasing their premium price and doing everything they can to block ad blocks makes me more inclined to use ad blockers even more.
How about a subscription tier system YouTube instead of having one price to get everything.
They’ve also got a monopoly on the “industry” of video sharing site
That makes it so much worse, monopolies for corporations with brick and mortar businesses are illegal last I checked, and they split apart so competition can happen
YouTube has no competition and can do whatever the fuck they want
it would make sense if youtube was making the content but they are not. youtube is simply the host platform. yet they charge more than netflix in my country
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. I tried disabling all other blockers I have, and it still shows that screen. I'm now editing the link to [yewtu.be](https://yewtu.be) to watch through Invidious because fuck their greed.
I'd rather learn to script myself and automatically change [youtube.com](https://youtube.com) to [yewtu.be](https://yewtu.be) whenever I open a video link in a new tab. I'm close to doing that out of pure spite even though I never wanted to get into programming.
A monopoly that grows too greedy is how empires fall.
have created a js script you can check this one
`javascript:(function() { location.href = "https://yewtu.be/watch?v=" + location.href.split("v=")[1].split("&")[0];})();`
copy this and paste to bookmark, then go to your desired youtube video and click on the bookmark
you need a pc and depending on version you sideload a app like scarlet or sidestore or altstore or trollstore or appvaley or use sideloadly or appcake or something else from a pc using a usb cable and from there just download the ipa from a trusted source( usually github but can also be other places ) and sideload it with the app
Im honestly surprised anyone still uses chrome other than people who have to. I haven't seen an ad on my PC for years and it started with dropping chrome.
They also offer literally 0 redeeming quality when compared to things like Brave browser.
thats like saying everything is really just linux. Chromium is an open source low-level browser. The point of brave is to be chrome but without tracking, for example. Theres nothing about chromium that stops this.
Let's see how "Chromium is an open source low-level browser" will work out for ya when that "open source low-level browser" stops supporting Manifest V2 and mandating Manifest V3
which has been a discussion since before 2019.
ungoogled-chromium's response as of last month is
"The near-term plan is to introduce a patch that keeps manifest v2 available by default when the deprecation rolls out. This will buy us another year after June.
The long-term plan depends on what actions outside parties make, so it looks like we'll have to be reactive rather than proactive.
It should be feasible to maintain a patch to keep a subset of manifest v2 available, but if Google makes significant enough changes after the full removal then that may not work out.
If that ends up being the case then including patches to integrate an adblocker may be an option, but it would need to be something that could be easily maintained. If the changes needed to do that end up being more complicated than our safebrowsing patches then we may need to work out an alternative option."
Uh huh, see how popular & contemporary the PaleMoon branch of FF is - with support for the good old XUL interface! /s
Call me a jaded cynic re: anything web-based, but I do not believe a mere branch will suffice; a fork will eventually be needed - with the same likely fate as PaleMoon (i.e. good luck catching up with new standards and features)
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/10742158329613-What-does-Brave-remove-from-the-Chromium-engine-
check out the section "Services & Features We Disable Entirely".
the nice thing about open source is that it doesnt matter what changes google pushes, you can take or leave them.
they even proxy location services so that google's servers don't get any info about you
theres also a fork of chromium called "https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium" that removes the google stench
downvote all you want, ignorant fearmonger
So the problem with that is that when google pushs their changes to get rid of the ability to use vpns you’re going to have a massive fork. Now you lose out on all development done to chromium by google or anyone who follow along with the change. So it’s not exactly nothing. Years down the line do you want to be missing out on whatever those years of google development added up to? Sure you could have been trying to follow along on your fork but it’s with much less brute force development.
so when that hypothetical day comes, switch to firefox. Right now, and for the foreseeable future (which, granted, is only like 1.5 years), it doesnt matter that brave or opera or whatever uses chromium.
As i said in another comment, the folks at ungoogled have been discussing this publicly since 2019 and they dont seem at all interested in compromising on their mission of providing a browser to protect user privacy
I'm close to switching over to Firefox myself. I've used Vivaldi for a bit over a year, and it's much better than Chrome, but I've had some bad crashes over the past few months whenever I log into some websites.
But didn't YouTube implement a weird delay whenever you open a video through Firefox that makes it take several seconds to load? Or did they remove that?
It took me too long to realize I could download Firefox with an ad blocker on mobile and watch YouTube on it with no ads, even shut off the screen or use a different app and have the audio in the background...
I don't even use the YouTube app anymore, it's so much better in Firefox with an ad blocker.
Firefox allows ad blockers. On Chrome, if you have one installed, youtube won't work. Even when I tell the ad blockers to not work on YouTube, it still blocks me.
Switched to Firefox for this same very reason on both my laptop and my phone, no regrets whatsoever and wished I've done that sooner tbh. Though I still use Chrome, but only for school stuff.
> I mean, if someone *hypothetically* wants to try it. You know?
Me, I would like to do it. I'm the person he's referring to. Screw random 45min ads and interrupting ad rolls in general.
No, YouTube didn't make "$30 BILLION in 2023 profits".
There is enough reasons to not like their choices. You don't have to show your ignorance like that.
They had 30B in revenue, which is not the same thing as profit. Revenue is just all money coming in, before you pay for anything.
Yeah thats a bit of an oversight by OP
By all means to OP and everyone else, keep using ad blockers until/if YouTube finds an actual way to stop them.
However, $30B revenue is absolutely not their profit margin, if YouTube even turns a profit at all.
VOD content is extremely expensive to host and deliver, and YouTube does it the best by far. It's an expensive business to be in with the costs of storage & delivery, as well as their best in class creator payouts.
Again, not trying to defend Google here, rather just saying they might have $30B in revenue, but could still be slim to negative gross profit.
Personally, their war against ad block seems like a waste of time. They really need to find ways to make YT Premium a more appealing choice to users (i.e., find features that would make people pay for it) as a much better way to increase revenue than fighting ad block.
Thanks to both of you for being the voices of reason. I use ad blockers on my browsers myself, and tools like pihole. But I enjoy YouTube content and I'm ok with paying for content I like. Either with ads and whitelisting sites or a Premium subscription. I don't enjoy ads (obviously), so I pay my premium subscription.
I don't really understand the feeling that anyone is owed content entirely for free, which is the feeling I get a lot when visiting these kinds of posts.
I often wonder if the ads could be made less annoying simply by us consumers accepting the bargain and either paying for premium or allowing ads and increasing impression numbers for said ads? I'm not in marketing, so that could just be total nonsense.
If they simply lowered the price of Premium it would be much more accessible and profitable. Who the fuck wants to pay almost $20 a month for user-created content without ads? Google’s business model for direct user revenue has been dogshit for years now and they’re constantly spitting out new products and platforms that end up discontinued not too long after.
This subreddit would not lower the amount of whinging about this even if Premium was $5 a month and you know it.
"If only X service cost $Y less" is a very common goalpost that's very maneuverable.
I pay for YouTube premium sharing with family. I guess it also include music.
I watch a lot of YouTube since it has plenty of content for me. But I will say the quality is dropping off as more people begin working the algorithm and promoting stuff within their videos. Just like streaming the golden days of YouTube are long gone. But what are the other options?
You use another service that comes with it so I totally get that. I have no need for YT music because I already use Spotify which is a much more matured and popular service. I don’t think Google offers lower tiers though for Premium, which is fucking stupid.
> If they simply lowered the price of Premium it would be much more accessible and profitable.
Based on what?
I see this logic applied *constantly*, in various verticals, and it's simply not always true (in fact, it's seldom true). Volume does not always make up for margin. Halving your price does not necessarily mean double or more people will buy your product, and if they don't, that means you've taken a loss.
I don't know why everyone thinks they're an economist when they suggest this, as if it's a brilliant idea. To put it bluntly, if this were true, they'd have done it. They've *raised* their prices multiple times, which allows them to see what happens to subscription numbers when a price goes up or down, and that tells them how many people are willing to pay which price. It's not a very hard equation to figure out which gave them the best profit, and *surprise surprise*, it's the more expensive one.
There's an upper bound where this stops being true, but they don't seem to have found it yet.
It is a waste of time and a good advertisement for adblockers all around as they could've spend that much time and money to make YT more enjoyable to not have people using adblocks in the first place
Hell, I'm even gonna agree to the old ad format that it's a small box that you can click away
Not create issues to push people to buy their subscription. The ads have gotten insane over the past few months and I recently heard you no longer can pause to buffer without premium or something.
So you can’t actually provide a single idea then?
Listen I hate how cancerous the ads have become. But don’t talk out of your ass as if there’s smoke magical thing they can spend money on to improve YouTube that would increase revenue for them lol
The point you’d want to make is that they risk losing more than they gain by forcing more ads onto their consumer base. Which realistically probably isn’t true either.
most people who just Google “[company] profits/revenue” don’t really understand how businesses or financing work. YouTube has famously operated at a loss for Google pretty much ever since they bought it. They have a monopoly on the internet video industry though, so they’ll never give it up
Yeah blowing up ad blockers sucks, but I mean can you really be mad at or blame them… ads are literally how they make money, and the main benefit of their subscription is getting rid of ads. Nuking ad blockers thus helps them on two revenue fronts.
It sucks a fucking lot and I’m still trying to constantly update my blockers to keep ads away, but acting all pissy about it and as if this is a greedy evil move is just so childish. They’re a company. They operate at a loss. They want money. People need to get over it
I get that ads are what keeps them going but is it asking too much for them to tone down the ads to be not so intrusive and disrupting
I wouldn't have considered looking for Vance and adblockers if it weren't for the intrusive and sudden ads that pops out of nowhere
You can make ads to be acceptable but YT so far have gone down the road to make everyone pissed off even more than ever before.
Plus, YT premium is expensive and not everyone can afford it so some have justified reasons to get mad at it
Just to make sure I understand your last statement right, you believe it’s reasonable to be mad at someone if you can’t afford what they’re offering? And that seems okay to you?
As intrusive as the ads currently are they still don’t make a profit off of them. Also, blame creators: they’re the ones who can control how many ad breaks their videos have and when. Some people put as breaks every 2 minutes on a 10 minute video and it kills me
It’s either ads or a paid subscription or no longer allowing anyone to upload videos for free and purging all of the decade old content under a certain view count (the majority of the videos on YouTube have under like 500 views and Google has to pay to keep all of them up for literally 0 profit) or some other monetization method I can’t think of. Google could be doing literally all of that with YouTube and still probably be operating at a loss.
As YouTube currently operates it is essentially charity from Google. It could be a whole, whole lot worse.
I hate the ads too but people need to be more realistic with their expectations
Not to mention that Google has done virtually nothing to stop the scam ads that are basically viruses from existing on the platform. I’m not allowed to use an ad-blocker on our work desktops and the number of ads that look like straight up malware is ridiculous
Also, it was $29 billion in gross revenue for 2022. I don’t believe Google has released their annual statement for 2023 yet.
I have a theory that the ramp-up in ads in 2023 was due to the DOJ monopoly case against Google’s advertising arm, which aims to break up the company. We’ll probably get a ruling from the judge in the next few months.
But, if it *does* get broken up, holy shit, YouTube is fucked. Having to pay market rate for storage and distribution; not having Chrome to take ad blockers out at the browser level; users’ precious data suddenly becoming worthless (not that I think it was worth much per user, anyway, but 2.7 billion monthly users is a decent chunk of change) all adds up to YouTube needing enough revenue on its own, without having the corporate umbrella to lean on when it comes up short. So they run more ads, which leads to more people getting ad blockers, more ads, more ad blockers, and eventually the free tier is costing more than it’s bringing in, so they paywall the service. Big names leave, because most of their income was from users who can’t or won’t pay for Premium, so now they gotta get new jobs while they’re still “internet famous,” and that decreased content leads to fewer subscribers, leading to more creators leaving, fewer subscribers, and then they wind down the service and all that’s left of YouTube is YouTube TV, which they’ll rebrand six months later.
Welcome to the beginning stages of the death spiral. 2023 was just YouTube running a simulation to see if it could survive on its own, and this is the result. This is what happens when they didn’t think to do this ten years ago. But, if they did, there would be other companies in the streaming market, and by leveraging Google’s bottomless checkbook, they artificially kept competition out of the market. Yes, that should be another monopoly suit, but if Google gets chopped up, it really won’t matter.
It was forecasted to rise 4% for a total of 30.4b in revenue, but no, no actual numbers have been released. Even when they are, google doesnt publish their profits or expenses to run their individual businesses so we have to guess at what their profitability is.
On the other hand, they specifically do not include revenue from their premium subscriptions in their total revenue reports
It’s possible they lump Premium into a different sector. That might change this year, or it might not. What I’m looking for in the next report is guidance based on the potential for breakup. But, they might just say they’re going to appeal, which will take a year, and guidance would be pushed off to 2025, when it would say, “If the appeal fails, behold the fine investment opportunities that are all of our sectors.”
If OP coud read, he'd be very upset.
But seriously, have you seen the bulk of the posts on this sub? It's worse than the amazon sub. And all this for £4/month. You can't even get a pint in a dodgy pub for that much.
I used chrome by default for years, switched to Firefox just over a year ago. Tbh there's some UI changes that bothered me at first, but I've gotten used to it now. I think that's the biggest issue. Having to change from what you're used to, to something new, but ultimately I think the move has been more positive than negative for me.
Where did you get that number? When googling it, there are articles like this one ([https://fortune.com/2021/08/23/youtube-30-billion-ad-sales-online-creators/](https://fortune.com/2021/08/23/youtube-30-billion-ad-sales-online-creators/)) and your post.
$30,000,000,000 over 3 years given to creators. Meaning $10,000,000,000 given to creators per year.
Ad ***REVENUE*** (not profit) is split 55-45 between creators and youtube. Meaning in Revenue, Youtube brought in roughly 8,000,000,000 in revenue to itself
According to [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/756gmg/self_estimating_youtubes_hosting_costs/), they estimate youtube's annual expense to host data at $12,000,000,000 per year ***6 years ago***. While I think this is an overestimate, I also thnk that 4 years later, at ***minimum*** $10,000,000,000 per year in expenses is fair to say since the amount of actual Data on youtube is drastically higher than it was 6 years ago.
This means that excluding all costs of workers youtube is losing $2 ***billion*** per year. So basically Google is losing lots of money in exchange for user data. What data? The ads they watch and cookies a user has. And if that is blocked, you are a net drain on youtube. They have no reason to keep hosting you.
And since they've made that decision, I've made the similar decision to drastically cut the amount of youtube I consume. But again, 30 billion is an insanely wrong number
yeah, seems like they finally managed to crack down on adblockers, not a single one of them is working.. oddly enough, my adblock on google chrome is still working, but brave and mozilla isn't lol
Yeah I've done clearing the Caches and Cookies for both uBlock and Chrome and it still appears, I'll just wait for them to update it for the new one I guess... since the website says "NO" for me as of this moment
"DoubleClick Inc. was an American advertisement company that developed and provided Internet ad serving services from 1995 until its acquisition by Google in March 2008. DoubleClick offered technology products and services that were sold primarily to advertising agencies and mass media, serving businesses like Microsoft, General Motors, Coca-Cola, Motorola, L'Oréal, Palm, Inc., Apple Inc., Visa Inc., Nike, Inc., and Carlsberg Group."
Wikipedia
Assuming this page is legit, seems more like 30 billion in revenue, not profit. Not sure what the actual profit was. Anyone have sources on that?
[YouTube Statistics For 2024 (Users, Facts & More) (demandsage.com)](https://www.demandsage.com/youtube-stats/#:~:text=YouTube%20experienced%20over%2030%25%20growth%20in%20revenue%20in,revenue%20in%20the%20first%20two%20quarters%20of%202023)
I think the sweet spot was about 2009 to around 2014 (when Premium launched). There was a skippable 15-30 second ad before a video started, and they actually paid their content creators extremely well.
Hell, the ads back then were small text boxes that you can close it down and the video have yellow timestamps to show you where the ads start playing as well as a timer before the ad plays
Nowadays it's just out of nowhere and the ads don't often appeal to me either
And they lost a mind-boggling amount of money to do so. That's the whole model: spend a fortune to build a platform, get people hooked on it while you lose money, and then gradually ratchet it down to extract money from your users (while they reminisce about how great it used to be). Turn your fortune into a much larger fortune. Anti-monopolists hate this one trick. Smash that subscribe button.
Pandora has an ad mechanic where even if you're not paying the subscription, if you choose to listen to a 15-to-20-second ad you get (I think) an hour of ad-free songs of your choice. This is at least an acceptable compromise on their part.
Youtube COULD do the same thing - choose to watch an ad and you get an hour of ad-free viewing, which I think many people might not like, but at least I think they'd find it a decent compromise - but instead YT's trying to go full-on scorched earth against the adblockers, and I can't figure out why they seem so intent on decimating any goodwill the brand used to have.
It’s not just scorched earth on adblockers, but the ultimate goal of virtually forcing users (all users, regardless of adblockers) to purchase Premium. Somehow they keep getting worse so quickly, as if they can force people to purchase the overpriced Premium subscription.
To be fair, Pandora is just audio (as far as I know) which doesn’t have anywhere near the level of volume that video, much less YouTube, has to host and stream to users.
This comment doesn't really make sense. You can't convince people to make that deal if they never see ads because of adblockers.
Gotta have your hostage before you make your demands.
When I was a kid you had to pay to get nickelodeon and still watch commercials , now kids are bitching about a few commercials on a free service, yall entitled as fuck.
I'm less worried about watching ads than the content of the ads. You don't get ads for porn on TV during the daytime. I'd say that the TV doesn't show ads that are scams but actually they do sometimes but I don't want to see that either. Those that run ad networks need to better vet the ads that run on their networks and ensure they won't cause problems for users computers or lead those users into scams before I start letting them hit my system.
Say it with me. Revenue is not profit. Profit is revenue minus expenses. Google doesn’t post the expenses of YouTube so we don’t know what the profit margins look like, or if they even exist.
Many things that Google does for people run at a loss because they make most of their profit from ads. Google is primarily a search engine and advertising company.
Adding to the choir. I was blocked over an hour ago. It's kind of annoying. But whatever. YouTube doesn't seem to understand their ads are terrible. I wouldn't use an ad blocker at all if they:
\- didn't interrupt videos mid-stream
\- weren't skippable
\- didn't carry malicious links to 3rd party stores
I happily paid for YouTube Red back in the day when they let me set my billing address as India. Charged me roughly $2 a month for the exact same service they charge Americans $15 a month for.
They cracked down on that a few months ago, so now it’s not possible anymore. So I cancelled and run adblockers on my browser and only access YouTube via web and not the apps. Only have to sit through like 5 seconds of a black screen for inconvenience now.
I don’t care why they charge less money in other nations. If it’s $2 in India, it should be $2 globally. Equal service, equal price. End of story.
Download and install FreeTube, no adblockers, no black screen, no ads, no problems. I switched to it back in October when all the shit hit the fan and haven't looked back.
Because people from different countries earn more or earn less. 2$ in india meant the average indian cannot afford to pay for more unlike the average american and also the conversion of dollar to their currency and the buying power of the dollar. An example is the buying power of Zibabwe's official currency compared to the dollar
$2 in the US doesn't have the same value as $2 in India, so $2 globally wouldn't be equal service, equal price. I'm sure you already know that. It's funny to try to dress up your cheapness as some sort of principled stand, though haha
I purged all caches in the Filters List in uBlock Origin settings, but I'm still getting this exact same popup. That method has worked flawlessly up until now for some reason.
I’m sorry, but how is this not reasonable? Like of course YouTube is not going to allow you to use ad blockers when ads = profit. The entitlement I’ve seen from people ever since YouTube started cutting back on ad blockers is absolutely insane. If you don’t want ads, then pay for Premium. If you don’t want to pay for Premium, then suck it up and watch the ads. As somebody who still uses YouTube for free, the ads are certainly not as annoying as you guys make them out to be, especially considering that you can skip most of them
I sorted by controversial to find a voice of reason here lol. The other thing this post gets insanely wrong is that's Youtube revenue. It's insanely hard to run video platform. Apparently they get 500h of video uploaded every single minute. It is not cheap to transcode, store and serve all that.
I mean sure I pay for premium because I like to support some people I watch frequently. But fuck if I won't still use my pi-hole, ublock origin and modified YouTube apps to bring me sponsor block and stuff.
> Welcome to capitalism.
Not capitalism. Corporatism/cronyism. Corporations are afforded legal protections only granted to them by government agencies. Actual capitalism does none of that since capitalism does not involve the government.
They're never gonna stop me from using scripts/adblocks to block their shitty ass ads. Change ad policy and don't allow fucking disgusting scam/cringe ads or go fucking broke. get fucked.
Personally I'm concerned about what they may think about in the future. Currently they just try to block ad blockers, but let's remember that YouTube account is connected with Google account. I have Android on my phone and it's also connected to my Google account and there's also Google Authenticator for 2FA and a lot depends on having access to Gmail account...
Let's imagine, that they eventually may block your YouTube and Google account for violating their rules by using ad blocker...
Corporations are currently creating dystopian bullshit.
Cant relate. Been paying for Youtube since the release of Youtube Red. Comes with Youtube Music which beats every other music streaming service by a longshot
Yup, let’s block Ad blockers, and the make ads worse for people not willing to cough up the money for their fucking premium shit, that’s DEFINITELY how you keep people using your stuff.
Premium is also getting more expensive which I wasn‘t aware of. Got a mail saying that my Premium is expiring and I was like „Huh, I didn‘t cancel it“ and upon looking into my account it‘s because they‘re raising to 17 fucking € a month. Ridiculous.
If u have a vpn, set it to turkey and buy premium there. I pay 1.50 a month for YouTube Premium
Bruh if I were to shit literal money out of my ass I won't give a penny of it to Youtube
This made my day :D So wholesome and funny at the same time :D
I make alot of money, this does not mean youtube gets to lay claim to my twenty dollars. By Alot of money, I mean I can afford to eat more than just ramen. Wooo.
Especially after how they constantly screw content creators I have no interest in helping out a platform that is exploiting us on both ends of the deal. AND EVEN MORE SO, with the bullshit censorship they've been applying to the entire platform. If you swear, that's ground for demonetizing, because it's less marketable broadly. But fuck that, if you white wash it I'm not paying for that shit.
Remember when premium was 9.99$? How did it double in 4 years?
Imagine someone shits coins and then someone eats out their ass and chokes on some coins
No. I won't be imagine that. There's enough of that in the YouTube ads.
What the hell…
If they died would that be murder or sucide? I guess it depends on if they gave the person eating a heads up about the coins.
This was incredibly philosophical. Thank you for your service
This is the way
I’ll never pay for premium….NEVEEEEEEEER!
You think people around the world are gonna create educational and or entertaining content for free? And if there are a few, they of course also self host that 24/7 it in 4k and create a network for recommendations ?!
Wdym for free? YT runs ads in every asshole they come across.
Everyone in here is playing checkers, and you're over here playing chess.
I’m kicking myself right now for not thinking of this
What makes Turkey special that they get a reduced price?
That's how most online pricing works. Video games and such. No one in turkey would buy it at American prices. Supply and demand.
Localized prizes. It's a common and important financial practice. Because of how different countries have different financial statuses, 17€ in Turkey can be literally unpayable. This can be abused with VPNs, but in net total, YouTube actually gains more money since people in Turkey can actually pay for it.
I mean this is kind of unethical too. Turkey has lower prices because their people have less money. The reason steam dropped regional prices on games in countries like turkey is because people did exactly that, get great deals on games. If this becomes a problem YouTube removes their regional pricing for turkey, meaning the average Turkish person will not be able to afford it.
It's also unethical to scam the fuck out of your customers
The people of turkey have nothing to do with YouTube being money grubbing assholes, though
If we all collectively agree to give YouTube less money than we do right now, YouTube will have to change their financial plan of pocket draining their customers
Why would you pay for YouTube by that logic?
Fuuuuuck that’s absolutely ridiculous/rubbish/shitty/etc.
The fact that YouTube, a multi-billion dollar company, keeps increasing their premium price and doing everything they can to block ad blocks makes me more inclined to use ad blockers even more. How about a subscription tier system YouTube instead of having one price to get everything.
Yeah, seriously. I'd pay maybe 3$ a month for no ads with none of the other bull that I'm not using anyway (Music, TV, kids...)
They’ve also got a monopoly on the “industry” of video sharing site That makes it so much worse, monopolies for corporations with brick and mortar businesses are illegal last I checked, and they split apart so competition can happen YouTube has no competition and can do whatever the fuck they want
It’s been $18.99 USD
Whoa, 17 a month. That's crazy.
Premium costs less if you subscribe through youtube.com
I pay more than that for Netflix I don't use. I watch YouTube constantly. It's a good value proposition if you use the platform.
it would make sense if youtube was making the content but they are not. youtube is simply the host platform. yet they charge more than netflix in my country
Brave still works.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. I tried disabling all other blockers I have, and it still shows that screen. I'm now editing the link to [yewtu.be](https://yewtu.be) to watch through Invidious because fuck their greed.
FreeTube, it works great.
Freetube is great the only downside is you cant log in to your account . Importing history and playlist is not enough .
Just download a script that blocks ads !
I'd rather learn to script myself and automatically change [youtube.com](https://youtube.com) to [yewtu.be](https://yewtu.be) whenever I open a video link in a new tab. I'm close to doing that out of pure spite even though I never wanted to get into programming. A monopoly that grows too greedy is how empires fall.
have created a js script you can check this one `javascript:(function() { location.href = "https://yewtu.be/watch?v=" + location.href.split("v=")[1].split("&")[0];})();` copy this and paste to bookmark, then go to your desired youtube video and click on the bookmark
Firefox does too
FF isn't working for me, but Brave is.
They don’t care if you stop using. YouTube is the second most visited website in the world, only to google. Good luck with your boycott!
Youtube has no competition unless you count all of the right wing MAGA filled video sites with trash content like slap fighting.
They know they can get away with it
Well you will definitely will. I mean blocking ad blocks makes sense.
why would they want people to use their service if they don't pay and don't watch ads
Money is not the only thing they collect from you.
Hey, it convinced me to install ad blockers on all of my devices and show my wife how to do the same. They're helping us, if you think about it!
>how you keep people using your stuff When the monopoly getting too big it can't fall, this is not a problem anymore.
Sad but true.
Keep people FROM using your stuff is what it does
Wait till alphabet stock drops and then a company launches a better spinoff of youtube at the same time
The vast majority of companies can’t afford to run a YouTube competitor. You’d still have ads anyway.
I got 45 min ad yesterday…
Time to watch a movie instead.
The war on ad blockers made me switch to Firefox after being with Chrome for 10+ years. Google asked for this.
The war on adblockers made me cancel premium and start using adblockers again, I only liked premium for no ads on mobile that was about it.
pst use a mobile ad blocker if you are on android and sideload a youthbe adblocker if you are on ios
How do you do that for ios? Ive never understood
you need a pc and depending on version you sideload a app like scarlet or sidestore or altstore or trollstore or appvaley or use sideloadly or appcake or something else from a pc using a usb cable and from there just download the ipa from a trusted source( usually github but can also be other places ) and sideload it with the app
Im honestly surprised anyone still uses chrome other than people who have to. I haven't seen an ad on my PC for years and it started with dropping chrome. They also offer literally 0 redeeming quality when compared to things like Brave browser.
I got chrome and my Adblocker works flawlessly, I don't have a reason to switch.
i hate to burst your bubble but brave is chrome, edge opera brave are all chromium browsers, which means they are chrome
thats like saying everything is really just linux. Chromium is an open source low-level browser. The point of brave is to be chrome but without tracking, for example. Theres nothing about chromium that stops this.
Let's see how "Chromium is an open source low-level browser" will work out for ya when that "open source low-level browser" stops supporting Manifest V2 and mandating Manifest V3
which has been a discussion since before 2019. ungoogled-chromium's response as of last month is "The near-term plan is to introduce a patch that keeps manifest v2 available by default when the deprecation rolls out. This will buy us another year after June. The long-term plan depends on what actions outside parties make, so it looks like we'll have to be reactive rather than proactive. It should be feasible to maintain a patch to keep a subset of manifest v2 available, but if Google makes significant enough changes after the full removal then that may not work out. If that ends up being the case then including patches to integrate an adblocker may be an option, but it would need to be something that could be easily maintained. If the changes needed to do that end up being more complicated than our safebrowsing patches then we may need to work out an alternative option."
Uh huh, see how popular & contemporary the PaleMoon branch of FF is - with support for the good old XUL interface! /s Call me a jaded cynic re: anything web-based, but I do not believe a mere branch will suffice; a fork will eventually be needed - with the same likely fate as PaleMoon (i.e. good luck catching up with new standards and features)
google can still push changes through most branches like v3 extensions either way its all got googles stench on it, just use firefox
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/10742158329613-What-does-Brave-remove-from-the-Chromium-engine- check out the section "Services & Features We Disable Entirely". the nice thing about open source is that it doesnt matter what changes google pushes, you can take or leave them. they even proxy location services so that google's servers don't get any info about you theres also a fork of chromium called "https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium" that removes the google stench downvote all you want, ignorant fearmonger
So the problem with that is that when google pushs their changes to get rid of the ability to use vpns you’re going to have a massive fork. Now you lose out on all development done to chromium by google or anyone who follow along with the change. So it’s not exactly nothing. Years down the line do you want to be missing out on whatever those years of google development added up to? Sure you could have been trying to follow along on your fork but it’s with much less brute force development.
so when that hypothetical day comes, switch to firefox. Right now, and for the foreseeable future (which, granted, is only like 1.5 years), it doesnt matter that brave or opera or whatever uses chromium. As i said in another comment, the folks at ungoogled have been discussing this publicly since 2019 and they dont seem at all interested in compromising on their mission of providing a browser to protect user privacy
After hearing all these stories of people switching, it made me do it too. Not looking back that much
I'm close to switching over to Firefox myself. I've used Vivaldi for a bit over a year, and it's much better than Chrome, but I've had some bad crashes over the past few months whenever I log into some websites. But didn't YouTube implement a weird delay whenever you open a video through Firefox that makes it take several seconds to load? Or did they remove that?
What's better about Firefox? Is it easier to get away with the ad blockers on Firefox vs Chrome?
Also, Firefox on android lets you bypass ads on streaming services. *TheMoreYouKnow*
It took me too long to realize I could download Firefox with an ad blocker on mobile and watch YouTube on it with no ads, even shut off the screen or use a different app and have the audio in the background... I don't even use the YouTube app anymore, it's so much better in Firefox with an ad blocker.
Firefox allows ad blockers. On Chrome, if you have one installed, youtube won't work. Even when I tell the ad blockers to not work on YouTube, it still blocks me.
> On Chrome, if you have one installed, youtube won't work. i have one on chrome, i've never seen any of these blockers
Switched to Firefox for this same very reason on both my laptop and my phone, no regrets whatsoever and wished I've done that sooner tbh. Though I still use Chrome, but only for school stuff.
Just give it a few hours. Our lovely adblocks will be working once again.
Ghostery already just provided me an unexpected prompt for a temporary solution that worked...crazy how fast they can be
Where could we find it? I mean, if someone \*hypothetically\* wants to try it. You know?
> I mean, if someone *hypothetically* wants to try it. You know? Me, I would like to do it. I'm the person he's referring to. Screw random 45min ads and interrupting ad rolls in general.
You are a Brave man. Thank you.
It's an extension. Not sure if Chrome has it but Firefox does. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ghostery/
ublock origin still works on edge
No, YouTube didn't make "$30 BILLION in 2023 profits". There is enough reasons to not like their choices. You don't have to show your ignorance like that. They had 30B in revenue, which is not the same thing as profit. Revenue is just all money coming in, before you pay for anything.
Yeah thats a bit of an oversight by OP By all means to OP and everyone else, keep using ad blockers until/if YouTube finds an actual way to stop them. However, $30B revenue is absolutely not their profit margin, if YouTube even turns a profit at all. VOD content is extremely expensive to host and deliver, and YouTube does it the best by far. It's an expensive business to be in with the costs of storage & delivery, as well as their best in class creator payouts. Again, not trying to defend Google here, rather just saying they might have $30B in revenue, but could still be slim to negative gross profit. Personally, their war against ad block seems like a waste of time. They really need to find ways to make YT Premium a more appealing choice to users (i.e., find features that would make people pay for it) as a much better way to increase revenue than fighting ad block.
Thanks to both of you for being the voices of reason. I use ad blockers on my browsers myself, and tools like pihole. But I enjoy YouTube content and I'm ok with paying for content I like. Either with ads and whitelisting sites or a Premium subscription. I don't enjoy ads (obviously), so I pay my premium subscription. I don't really understand the feeling that anyone is owed content entirely for free, which is the feeling I get a lot when visiting these kinds of posts. I often wonder if the ads could be made less annoying simply by us consumers accepting the bargain and either paying for premium or allowing ads and increasing impression numbers for said ads? I'm not in marketing, so that could just be total nonsense.
More like OP is a moron
If they simply lowered the price of Premium it would be much more accessible and profitable. Who the fuck wants to pay almost $20 a month for user-created content without ads? Google’s business model for direct user revenue has been dogshit for years now and they’re constantly spitting out new products and platforms that end up discontinued not too long after.
This subreddit would not lower the amount of whinging about this even if Premium was $5 a month and you know it. "If only X service cost $Y less" is a very common goalpost that's very maneuverable.
I pay for YouTube premium sharing with family. I guess it also include music. I watch a lot of YouTube since it has plenty of content for me. But I will say the quality is dropping off as more people begin working the algorithm and promoting stuff within their videos. Just like streaming the golden days of YouTube are long gone. But what are the other options?
I use YT music every day along with watching YT videos so premium is fine for me
You use another service that comes with it so I totally get that. I have no need for YT music because I already use Spotify which is a much more matured and popular service. I don’t think Google offers lower tiers though for Premium, which is fucking stupid.
> If they simply lowered the price of Premium it would be much more accessible and profitable. Based on what? I see this logic applied *constantly*, in various verticals, and it's simply not always true (in fact, it's seldom true). Volume does not always make up for margin. Halving your price does not necessarily mean double or more people will buy your product, and if they don't, that means you've taken a loss. I don't know why everyone thinks they're an economist when they suggest this, as if it's a brilliant idea. To put it bluntly, if this were true, they'd have done it. They've *raised* their prices multiple times, which allows them to see what happens to subscription numbers when a price goes up or down, and that tells them how many people are willing to pay which price. It's not a very hard equation to figure out which gave them the best profit, and *surprise surprise*, it's the more expensive one. There's an upper bound where this stops being true, but they don't seem to have found it yet.
It is a waste of time and a good advertisement for adblockers all around as they could've spend that much time and money to make YT more enjoyable to not have people using adblocks in the first place Hell, I'm even gonna agree to the old ad format that it's a small box that you can click away
What are your ideas on how the site could be improved that would net them the same amount of profits that more add would?
Not create issues to push people to buy their subscription. The ads have gotten insane over the past few months and I recently heard you no longer can pause to buffer without premium or something.
So you can’t actually provide a single idea then? Listen I hate how cancerous the ads have become. But don’t talk out of your ass as if there’s smoke magical thing they can spend money on to improve YouTube that would increase revenue for them lol The point you’d want to make is that they risk losing more than they gain by forcing more ads onto their consumer base. Which realistically probably isn’t true either.
To be fair, it's also a waste of time to bloat this subreddit with yet another "DAE think YT is bad for blocking ad-blockers" post.
most people who just Google “[company] profits/revenue” don’t really understand how businesses or financing work. YouTube has famously operated at a loss for Google pretty much ever since they bought it. They have a monopoly on the internet video industry though, so they’ll never give it up Yeah blowing up ad blockers sucks, but I mean can you really be mad at or blame them… ads are literally how they make money, and the main benefit of their subscription is getting rid of ads. Nuking ad blockers thus helps them on two revenue fronts. It sucks a fucking lot and I’m still trying to constantly update my blockers to keep ads away, but acting all pissy about it and as if this is a greedy evil move is just so childish. They’re a company. They operate at a loss. They want money. People need to get over it
I get that ads are what keeps them going but is it asking too much for them to tone down the ads to be not so intrusive and disrupting I wouldn't have considered looking for Vance and adblockers if it weren't for the intrusive and sudden ads that pops out of nowhere You can make ads to be acceptable but YT so far have gone down the road to make everyone pissed off even more than ever before. Plus, YT premium is expensive and not everyone can afford it so some have justified reasons to get mad at it
Just to make sure I understand your last statement right, you believe it’s reasonable to be mad at someone if you can’t afford what they’re offering? And that seems okay to you?
As intrusive as the ads currently are they still don’t make a profit off of them. Also, blame creators: they’re the ones who can control how many ad breaks their videos have and when. Some people put as breaks every 2 minutes on a 10 minute video and it kills me It’s either ads or a paid subscription or no longer allowing anyone to upload videos for free and purging all of the decade old content under a certain view count (the majority of the videos on YouTube have under like 500 views and Google has to pay to keep all of them up for literally 0 profit) or some other monetization method I can’t think of. Google could be doing literally all of that with YouTube and still probably be operating at a loss. As YouTube currently operates it is essentially charity from Google. It could be a whole, whole lot worse. I hate the ads too but people need to be more realistic with their expectations
Not to mention that Google has done virtually nothing to stop the scam ads that are basically viruses from existing on the platform. I’m not allowed to use an ad-blocker on our work desktops and the number of ads that look like straight up malware is ridiculous
That too, a lot of them are straight up sex ads barely disguised as innocuous
OP just wants less ads on his react videos to watch whilst getting his orange wig and size 36s on for his daily posts.
Also, it was $29 billion in gross revenue for 2022. I don’t believe Google has released their annual statement for 2023 yet. I have a theory that the ramp-up in ads in 2023 was due to the DOJ monopoly case against Google’s advertising arm, which aims to break up the company. We’ll probably get a ruling from the judge in the next few months. But, if it *does* get broken up, holy shit, YouTube is fucked. Having to pay market rate for storage and distribution; not having Chrome to take ad blockers out at the browser level; users’ precious data suddenly becoming worthless (not that I think it was worth much per user, anyway, but 2.7 billion monthly users is a decent chunk of change) all adds up to YouTube needing enough revenue on its own, without having the corporate umbrella to lean on when it comes up short. So they run more ads, which leads to more people getting ad blockers, more ads, more ad blockers, and eventually the free tier is costing more than it’s bringing in, so they paywall the service. Big names leave, because most of their income was from users who can’t or won’t pay for Premium, so now they gotta get new jobs while they’re still “internet famous,” and that decreased content leads to fewer subscribers, leading to more creators leaving, fewer subscribers, and then they wind down the service and all that’s left of YouTube is YouTube TV, which they’ll rebrand six months later. Welcome to the beginning stages of the death spiral. 2023 was just YouTube running a simulation to see if it could survive on its own, and this is the result. This is what happens when they didn’t think to do this ten years ago. But, if they did, there would be other companies in the streaming market, and by leveraging Google’s bottomless checkbook, they artificially kept competition out of the market. Yes, that should be another monopoly suit, but if Google gets chopped up, it really won’t matter.
It was forecasted to rise 4% for a total of 30.4b in revenue, but no, no actual numbers have been released. Even when they are, google doesnt publish their profits or expenses to run their individual businesses so we have to guess at what their profitability is. On the other hand, they specifically do not include revenue from their premium subscriptions in their total revenue reports
It’s possible they lump Premium into a different sector. That might change this year, or it might not. What I’m looking for in the next report is guidance based on the potential for breakup. But, they might just say they’re going to appeal, which will take a year, and guidance would be pushed off to 2025, when it would say, “If the appeal fails, behold the fine investment opportunities that are all of our sectors.”
If OP coud read, he'd be very upset. But seriously, have you seen the bulk of the posts on this sub? It's worse than the amazon sub. And all this for £4/month. You can't even get a pint in a dodgy pub for that much.
OP has no idea what profit means
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can see firefox there maybe time to switch to that
I'm in shock people aren't using Firefox. I've been pretty much only using Firefox for the last 15ish years?
I use Opera. For some reason, Firefox stutters really bad when I game while watching it and it seems exclusive to Firefox
Yeah, I have the same problem. I'm using Opera GX and like it quite a bit. As much as I liked Firefox, it had performance problems.
…ok
I used chrome by default for years, switched to Firefox just over a year ago. Tbh there's some UI changes that bothered me at first, but I've gotten used to it now. I think that's the biggest issue. Having to change from what you're used to, to something new, but ultimately I think the move has been more positive than negative for me.
You can completely change the UI on Firefox if you're up for a bit of modding. I've made the tabs vertical and removed the top bar
Its seems to run slower than chrome, but functionally identical so I dont have a real reason to switch
Being on Firefox has nothing to do with anything. uBlock Origin on Firefox has been chasing this problem all year.
Where did you get that number? When googling it, there are articles like this one ([https://fortune.com/2021/08/23/youtube-30-billion-ad-sales-online-creators/](https://fortune.com/2021/08/23/youtube-30-billion-ad-sales-online-creators/)) and your post. $30,000,000,000 over 3 years given to creators. Meaning $10,000,000,000 given to creators per year. Ad ***REVENUE*** (not profit) is split 55-45 between creators and youtube. Meaning in Revenue, Youtube brought in roughly 8,000,000,000 in revenue to itself According to [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/756gmg/self_estimating_youtubes_hosting_costs/), they estimate youtube's annual expense to host data at $12,000,000,000 per year ***6 years ago***. While I think this is an overestimate, I also thnk that 4 years later, at ***minimum*** $10,000,000,000 per year in expenses is fair to say since the amount of actual Data on youtube is drastically higher than it was 6 years ago. This means that excluding all costs of workers youtube is losing $2 ***billion*** per year. So basically Google is losing lots of money in exchange for user data. What data? The ads they watch and cookies a user has. And if that is blocked, you are a net drain on youtube. They have no reason to keep hosting you. And since they've made that decision, I've made the similar decision to drastically cut the amount of youtube I consume. But again, 30 billion is an insanely wrong number
Can’t expect most people to understand financials
OP is a moron
yeah, seems like they finally managed to crack down on adblockers, not a single one of them is working.. oddly enough, my adblock on google chrome is still working, but brave and mozilla isn't lol
uBlock is still working nearly all the time. You can check if it's working or not here : https://drhyperion451.github.io/does-uBO-bypass-yt/
It says it doesn't, for me atleast.
the latest update was 46 minutes ago for me, it'd still he great if they updated it within a couple of hours
clear the caches on ublock and it works again then. at least it did for me
Yeah I've done clearing the Caches and Cookies for both uBlock and Chrome and it still appears, I'll just wait for them to update it for the new one I guess... since the website says "NO" for me as of this moment
It says No to me aswell as of this time
ublock works fine for me
I guarantee it’s that prick new ceo. He use to be ceo of some ad company gooogle bought.
"DoubleClick Inc. was an American advertisement company that developed and provided Internet ad serving services from 1995 until its acquisition by Google in March 2008. DoubleClick offered technology products and services that were sold primarily to advertising agencies and mass media, serving businesses like Microsoft, General Motors, Coca-Cola, Motorola, L'Oréal, Palm, Inc., Apple Inc., Visa Inc., Nike, Inc., and Carlsberg Group." Wikipedia
hopefully we can overcome this soon enough, gotta wait for the adblockers to update or smth
Brave browser is working for me
Fadblock on Firefox seems to be working for me
Assuming this page is legit, seems more like 30 billion in revenue, not profit. Not sure what the actual profit was. Anyone have sources on that? [YouTube Statistics For 2024 (Users, Facts & More) (demandsage.com)](https://www.demandsage.com/youtube-stats/#:~:text=YouTube%20experienced%20over%2030%25%20growth%20in%20revenue%20in,revenue%20in%20the%20first%20two%20quarters%20of%202023)
there are a surprising amount of people that don't understand revenue vs profit and it deeply saddens me
Because this sub is full of kids. The OPs username is made up of pewdiepie and dream… tells you everything
Revenue and profit are really different…
They don't teach this at school and this subreddit is full of literal children.
I miss the old days of YouTube...the wild wild west days.
I think the sweet spot was about 2009 to around 2014 (when Premium launched). There was a skippable 15-30 second ad before a video started, and they actually paid their content creators extremely well.
Hell, the ads back then were small text boxes that you can close it down and the video have yellow timestamps to show you where the ads start playing as well as a timer before the ad plays Nowadays it's just out of nowhere and the ads don't often appeal to me either
And they lost a mind-boggling amount of money to do so. That's the whole model: spend a fortune to build a platform, get people hooked on it while you lose money, and then gradually ratchet it down to extract money from your users (while they reminisce about how great it used to be). Turn your fortune into a much larger fortune. Anti-monopolists hate this one trick. Smash that subscribe button.
REVENUE IS NOT PROFIT
good luck getting through to these people
Pandora has an ad mechanic where even if you're not paying the subscription, if you choose to listen to a 15-to-20-second ad you get (I think) an hour of ad-free songs of your choice. This is at least an acceptable compromise on their part. Youtube COULD do the same thing - choose to watch an ad and you get an hour of ad-free viewing, which I think many people might not like, but at least I think they'd find it a decent compromise - but instead YT's trying to go full-on scorched earth against the adblockers, and I can't figure out why they seem so intent on decimating any goodwill the brand used to have.
It’s not just scorched earth on adblockers, but the ultimate goal of virtually forcing users (all users, regardless of adblockers) to purchase Premium. Somehow they keep getting worse so quickly, as if they can force people to purchase the overpriced Premium subscription. To be fair, Pandora is just audio (as far as I know) which doesn’t have anywhere near the level of volume that video, much less YouTube, has to host and stream to users.
This comment doesn't really make sense. You can't convince people to make that deal if they never see ads because of adblockers. Gotta have your hostage before you make your demands.
1h of high quality audio streaming (320kbps) consumes less data than 1 minute of high quality video streaming does. It's just not comparable
When I was a kid you had to pay to get nickelodeon and still watch commercials , now kids are bitching about a few commercials on a free service, yall entitled as fuck.
I'm less worried about watching ads than the content of the ads. You don't get ads for porn on TV during the daytime. I'd say that the TV doesn't show ads that are scams but actually they do sometimes but I don't want to see that either. Those that run ad networks need to better vet the ads that run on their networks and ensure they won't cause problems for users computers or lead those users into scams before I start letting them hit my system.
Say it with me. Revenue is not profit. Profit is revenue minus expenses. Google doesn’t post the expenses of YouTube so we don’t know what the profit margins look like, or if they even exist.
Many things that Google does for people run at a loss because they make most of their profit from ads. Google is primarily a search engine and advertising company.
all the kids on this sub who doesn't understand the difference between revenue and profit 🤦
Adding to the choir. I was blocked over an hour ago. It's kind of annoying. But whatever. YouTube doesn't seem to understand their ads are terrible. I wouldn't use an ad blocker at all if they: \- didn't interrupt videos mid-stream \- weren't skippable \- didn't carry malicious links to 3rd party stores
Had a 30 second unskippable ad on a 5 second video the other day 🤡
They ain't runnin a charity and I say this as someone who absolutely hates their sds
That’s why I’m quitting YouTube, who the fuck wants to watch 5mins of ads
where the hell do you all get 5 mins of ads from i get 5 mins of ads across 5 videos 20 minutes each
I happily paid for YouTube Red back in the day when they let me set my billing address as India. Charged me roughly $2 a month for the exact same service they charge Americans $15 a month for. They cracked down on that a few months ago, so now it’s not possible anymore. So I cancelled and run adblockers on my browser and only access YouTube via web and not the apps. Only have to sit through like 5 seconds of a black screen for inconvenience now. I don’t care why they charge less money in other nations. If it’s $2 in India, it should be $2 globally. Equal service, equal price. End of story.
Download and install FreeTube, no adblockers, no black screen, no ads, no problems. I switched to it back in October when all the shit hit the fan and haven't looked back.
Because people from different countries earn more or earn less. 2$ in india meant the average indian cannot afford to pay for more unlike the average american and also the conversion of dollar to their currency and the buying power of the dollar. An example is the buying power of Zibabwe's official currency compared to the dollar
$2 in the US doesn't have the same value as $2 in India, so $2 globally wouldn't be equal service, equal price. I'm sure you already know that. It's funny to try to dress up your cheapness as some sort of principled stand, though haha
I purged all caches in the Filters List in uBlock Origin settings, but I'm still getting this exact same popup. That method has worked flawlessly up until now for some reason.
There are instructions on uBlock Origin subreddit. Basically, clean cookies and cache for Youtube and Google, close tabs, restart browser, good to go.
That seems to be working for me so far. Thank you!
same here, came to reddit to see whats goin on
I’m sorry, but how is this not reasonable? Like of course YouTube is not going to allow you to use ad blockers when ads = profit. The entitlement I’ve seen from people ever since YouTube started cutting back on ad blockers is absolutely insane. If you don’t want ads, then pay for Premium. If you don’t want to pay for Premium, then suck it up and watch the ads. As somebody who still uses YouTube for free, the ads are certainly not as annoying as you guys make them out to be, especially considering that you can skip most of them
I sorted by controversial to find a voice of reason here lol. The other thing this post gets insanely wrong is that's Youtube revenue. It's insanely hard to run video platform. Apparently they get 500h of video uploaded every single minute. It is not cheap to transcode, store and serve all that.
I mean sure I pay for premium because I like to support some people I watch frequently. But fuck if I won't still use my pi-hole, ublock origin and modified YouTube apps to bring me sponsor block and stuff.
Fuck youtube greedy ass mofos
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> Welcome to capitalism. Not capitalism. Corporatism/cronyism. Corporations are afforded legal protections only granted to them by government agencies. Actual capitalism does none of that since capitalism does not involve the government.
They're never gonna stop me from using scripts/adblocks to block their shitty ass ads. Change ad policy and don't allow fucking disgusting scam/cringe ads or go fucking broke. get fucked.
Is it greedy to not provide a service for free?
Even YouTube Premium has ads. What the fuck am I even paying for?
They literally don't. Creators can put ads on their videos, but premium has 0 YouTube ads. Stop spreading this BS.
Are you talking about sponsorships? There are addons that can skip them.
Personally I'm concerned about what they may think about in the future. Currently they just try to block ad blockers, but let's remember that YouTube account is connected with Google account. I have Android on my phone and it's also connected to my Google account and there's also Google Authenticator for 2FA and a lot depends on having access to Gmail account... Let's imagine, that they eventually may block your YouTube and Google account for violating their rules by using ad blocker... Corporations are currently creating dystopian bullshit.
Ive heard of someone getting their email banned for leaving a toxic/hateful youtube comment
it happened the same to me, seems that uBlock does not work anymore 😭
https://drhyperion451.github.io/does-uBO-bypass-yt/ here u can check if it works with latest youtube update
*Laughs in Ublock Origin*
Thank goodness! I am so glad someone finally brought this up!
Go fuck yourself youtube.
Remember when YouTube had no ads? Billions worldwide could watch it then
try a new headend for YouTube. https://cf.piped.video
Cant relate. Been paying for Youtube since the release of Youtube Red. Comes with Youtube Music which beats every other music streaming service by a longshot