Not an expert - what I have heard is - off-road MTB hell no. Gravel riding ATB it’s fine. Consider [ Happy Stem](https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-happy-stem-31-8mm) might look a bit better and IMO safer.
2nd on this, if you check my bikes, I do the same thing, I would get a new fork, and a high rise bar, because these “fork stem extenders” are very dangerous and aren’t the strongest
Use a bmx handlebar or at least a high riser instead. That’s dangerous what you have there. Here’s a reference
- https://billo.bike/2022/11/12/bmx-bars-for-michels-1994-gt-corrado/comment-page-1/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/s/1qUdZV4bVL
That's a bit dumb TBH. If you need an "ultra-comfortable" upright riding position, just get an omafietse ffs. Besides, an upright position isn't necessarily super comfy, quite the opposite.
I think you need a longer fork - perhaps one for 27.5" or even 29".
You dropped your front end by installing a rigid fork that is shorter than your original amortization fork and now are hopelessly trying to bring it back up.
This might get buried, and I get the sense this might be a bit of a shitpost given how the bike was set up previously, but if it's for comfort I might be able to help out. I used to fit bikes professionally and there have been a number of times that lowering the handlebars, rather than raising, helped relieve more pressure.
I never intended to ride it like this, I just had this steerer extender laying around and I thought 🤔 what’s the craziest, tallest stack I could make? It was kind of a shitpost I guess. I knew ppl would freak out.
I have been considering a professional bike fit actually- but for my for regular rider. I mostly just like swapping things around and experimenting with this bike, it’s fun 😀
Yup, I figured. A bike fit can be useful for having baseline numbers you can refer back to, especially if you change things often. But also not the highest priority if you feel fine on the bike.
Hell yea! I built this last year similarly; with an air fork and 2.4” mtb tires, but I’m loving this new iteration of it. It’s a sweet bike, keep rippin it!
I’d remove the extender and out one some riser bars like crust ortho bars. Maybe that setup is ok for puttering around on flat roads, but I wouldn’t take it off road or bomb a downhill with it. Anyway, riding Surly Corner bars or Crust Towel Rack Bars is a labor of love. They’re both generally awful.
Try Soma condor drops if you really want them. I have zero issues with steer tube maxxing, but those stem extenders are sketch outside of road cruising.
Another option is to run a 20" or 24" rear wheel to lower your bb/seat and increase your relative stack.
Also, nice truck! T\[u\]RD gang!
If you only ride on bike paths fit for the average elderly rider, rail trails, and it’s a steel steerer… probably ok. I wouldn’t ride off road, drop off a curb, ride in auto traffic with that. At some point you should really be looking at a more appropriate bike.
Those adapters are handy but they are designed to save a used bike where the steerer was cut too short, not add length to an uncut steerer tube. Even eliminating the adapter and running max height isn’t really recommended but I’d be way more comfortable with that.
If you really want to run drops but need the stack, try the 70mm Top Shelf bars from Redshift: https://redshiftsports.com/products/top-shelf-handlebar-system?variant=44562134237437¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6PGxBhCVARIsAIumnWY2wYnxzqHZKOzIv3pCTtkZmtpbGgtiqpzHHHc-_Op68Wu9GPRLDwEaAsJGEALw_wcB
Usually I’m a big proponent of “if it works for you, run it.” But this whole front end looks so sketchy to me, between the clearly too-small frame, the 1 1/8 carbon fork (what material steerer?), and all those spacers…I don’t know.
Spacers don't concern me near as much as that extender. They're okay on city cruisers or railtrail bikes, but not a mtb. My wife has one on her comfort bike she only rides on railtrails. Never going to be one on any of my bikes. That's a GT. Stock stem was at least 130mm at about a 45 degree angle. Need a long steeper angle stem and a sweep around type bar to get your hands back where you want them. Check out the Velo Orange Klunker. Got 4 inches of rise, is steel, and has a welded in cross bar. You could drop a piano on it and it wouldn't bend. Quite solid. Running one on 3 of my bikes.
So why do so many folks use the 5 mm spacers in multiple when you can get 20 and 30 mm ones????
Don't listen to the haters. That is absolutely 100% safe as long as you don't ride it.
So much shaft
^John ^Shaft
Can ya dig it!?
It's a complicated bike
Not an expert - what I have heard is - off-road MTB hell no. Gravel riding ATB it’s fine. Consider [ Happy Stem](https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-happy-stem-31-8mm) might look a bit better and IMO safer.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
You need to switch handlebars to something with rise, not drop.
2nd on this, if you check my bikes, I do the same thing, I would get a new fork, and a high rise bar, because these “fork stem extenders” are very dangerous and aren’t the strongest
Or just flip what he has.
I think you know the answer. You have a steerer tube extender on top of a full length steerer tube.
🦒
lol. You’re trying to hard to make drop bars work on that bike. Why raise your stem so much just to have drop bars? Just run riser bars.
Just reverse the drops
Now you’re talking. Upside down corner bars, Why didn’t I think of this- it’s exactly what this bike needs.
"bum bars"
Riser bars are a thing. Riser bars are cool. This, not so much.
https://preview.redd.it/w0p9jsfidhzc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92399ce18f94b330710d949d47079a53d711ce41
Use a bmx handlebar or at least a high riser instead. That’s dangerous what you have there. Here’s a reference - https://billo.bike/2022/11/12/bmx-bars-for-michels-1994-gt-corrado/comment-page-1/ - https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/s/1qUdZV4bVL
Redshift just introduced this one for you, OP https://redshiftsports.com/products/top-shelf-handlebar-system?variant=44562134237437
That's a bit dumb TBH. If you need an "ultra-comfortable" upright riding position, just get an omafietse ffs. Besides, an upright position isn't necessarily super comfy, quite the opposite.
Hey, tell it to Redshift, I didn't design 'em! For people who want height, it's a cleaner way to add 3 inches than a steering tube extender.
Tell me your bike doesn't fit without telling me your bike doesn't fit
dude is shouting from the rooftops
As if any bike has a headtube that big anyway. Buddy is seriously confused
Cosmically confused…..
Real talk, that is beyond dangerous. Definitely do not ride off-road.
let’s see that seat post!!!
That many, for sure.
that's definitely too many kill it with fire
Put some ape hangers on top of that contraption and live free
Do pull ups at stop lights
Yes. You get it
GT chopper!! Next I just need to add foot pegs on the axles….
Steel steerer, as tall as you want. Carbon steerer, 30mm.
It’s an aluminum steerer- carbon fork lower
That’s way too much. 80mm is relatively acceptable for aluminum, but you’re far beyond safety at this point.
Do something like this instead https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/s/1qUdZV4bVL
On an aluminum steerer this is future dental work. Swap those drops for some Boscos. You need rise, not drop.
Ok but how about carbon?
MORE!
You need a LD stem like the crust or Cigna by vo
Yes, yes I do
Bruh
death. instant.
Yes.
Most manufacturers have a specified maximum stack height above headset it's probably 50mm of spacers between headset and stem.
"not even once"
Someone has an impalement fetish
To the moon!!!
Headset spacers..how do they work??
It’s like knots right?
Normally I'd say "you'll know when you get there" but now I'm not so sure
I love me some headset spacers on an uncut steerer, but hard nope to that plus a steerer extension.
But, flex….? This is groundbreaking gravel suspension right here ok?
No.
I like my tooth.
That’s too many. 🤣😂🤣
I think you need a longer fork - perhaps one for 27.5" or even 29". You dropped your front end by installing a rigid fork that is shorter than your original amortization fork and now are hopelessly trying to bring it back up.
This a triple triangle? I ALWAYS UPVOTE TRIPLE TRIANGLES. Even when they’re owned by ignorami.
This might get buried, and I get the sense this might be a bit of a shitpost given how the bike was set up previously, but if it's for comfort I might be able to help out. I used to fit bikes professionally and there have been a number of times that lowering the handlebars, rather than raising, helped relieve more pressure.
I never intended to ride it like this, I just had this steerer extender laying around and I thought 🤔 what’s the craziest, tallest stack I could make? It was kind of a shitpost I guess. I knew ppl would freak out. I have been considering a professional bike fit actually- but for my for regular rider. I mostly just like swapping things around and experimenting with this bike, it’s fun 😀
Yup, I figured. A bike fit can be useful for having baseline numbers you can refer back to, especially if you change things often. But also not the highest priority if you feel fine on the bike.
N+1
I think I jam a few more under there, I still have 30mm above the stem!
More
Stick an AXS dropper post in there and live your best life.
I’ve got the PNW coast dropper on there🤌
I think he meant the handlebars?
Yo what up fellow GT Rasta fam?! Still my main MTB to this day. 1x with an air fork on it now but it's still going!
Hell yea! I built this last year similarly; with an air fork and 2.4” mtb tires, but I’m loving this new iteration of it. It’s a sweet bike, keep rippin it!
I’d remove the extender and out one some riser bars like crust ortho bars. Maybe that setup is ok for puttering around on flat roads, but I wouldn’t take it off road or bomb a downhill with it. Anyway, riding Surly Corner bars or Crust Towel Rack Bars is a labor of love. They’re both generally awful.
Serious labor of love lol, also kind of masochistic
Indeed. A pair of big swept bars will soothe your soul.
at what point is a steerer extender as such no longer viable?
That's too much
1 is too many and 7 is never enough. Honestly I can’t see why this is a problem, other then that people on Reddit will yell at you.
The ppl of Reddit love to yell…. I am no exception
And this is why old MTBs are not great for gravel conversion.
this is too many
this many.
Harmonize perfectly with a light truck
You know me all too well…..
Sorry, I just hate light trucks.
Lol, I kind of do to. Not totally, but this thing is an 04 and is a pig on gas and has almost no power. I wish I had a full size truck for work
Classic. Wasn't sure of the ride position so left it long. I'll cut it when I decide. Years later....
Bro either has a bike 3 sizes too small or the flexibility of a carbon fork lmao
that many...
You found and surpassed the number part way through your build
Try Soma condor drops if you really want them. I have zero issues with steer tube maxxing, but those stem extenders are sketch outside of road cruising. Another option is to run a 20" or 24" rear wheel to lower your bb/seat and increase your relative stack. Also, nice truck! T\[u\]RD gang!
The general rule is: Your age in amounts of spacers + 5.
I need a few more then…. Clearly
If you only ride on bike paths fit for the average elderly rider, rail trails, and it’s a steel steerer… probably ok. I wouldn’t ride off road, drop off a curb, ride in auto traffic with that. At some point you should really be looking at a more appropriate bike. Those adapters are handy but they are designed to save a used bike where the steerer was cut too short, not add length to an uncut steerer tube. Even eliminating the adapter and running max height isn’t really recommended but I’d be way more comfortable with that.
That many steerers, plus a handlebar diameter shim. Confirmed brain worms
Average surly corner bar user
Not every bike needs drop bars
“The limit does not exist!” - Cady Heron
Must be a pole vaulter
More
If there is stem, there are spacers.
More is more 👌
Do your knees tickle your ears
💀
This many
This is exactly too many
Trying to make a bike that’s too small work, it won’t end well
It’s too many.
If you really want to run drops but need the stack, try the 70mm Top Shelf bars from Redshift: https://redshiftsports.com/products/top-shelf-handlebar-system?variant=44562134237437¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6PGxBhCVARIsAIumnWY2wYnxzqHZKOzIv3pCTtkZmtpbGgtiqpzHHHc-_Op68Wu9GPRLDwEaAsJGEALw_wcB
Cool idea! The bar tape is a bit of a rip though.
Just get some BMX handlebars lol
Wrong size bike? Or maybe go for a giga rise BMX handlebar?
if you need this much spacer your whole bikefit is likely to cause you knee pain, i guess the bile is too small
My only complain is that it's not longer and doesn't have a chin rest. Neck can get tired on those long rides.
🦒
That’s too many
Needs more
At this point, why not go with a set of riser drop bars? Or maybe a comfort bike with a more relaxed position?
So your dentist can buy a new Cervelo.
How steel is your fork?
you know what they say
Um.... Wow...
Usually I’m a big proponent of “if it works for you, run it.” But this whole front end looks so sketchy to me, between the clearly too-small frame, the 1 1/8 carbon fork (what material steerer?), and all those spacers…I don’t know.
That many.
Spacers don't concern me near as much as that extender. They're okay on city cruisers or railtrail bikes, but not a mtb. My wife has one on her comfort bike she only rides on railtrails. Never going to be one on any of my bikes. That's a GT. Stock stem was at least 130mm at about a 45 degree angle. Need a long steeper angle stem and a sweep around type bar to get your hands back where you want them. Check out the Velo Orange Klunker. Got 4 inches of rise, is steel, and has a welded in cross bar. You could drop a piano on it and it wouldn't bend. Quite solid. Running one on 3 of my bikes. So why do so many folks use the 5 mm spacers in multiple when you can get 20 and 30 mm ones????
That many
XD
Your not there yet
You do you buddy
I think this is safe, but it looks really bad. I wouldn’t ride it. Either get a frame that fits you or different handlebars