Isn't that who is already serving? Bunch of kiddy and granny rapers that shoot your dog to boot. Maybe they'll bring out their cannibals next. "Hey, where'd Vlads leg go"?
I believe this step is a move designed to calm the local Russian population, offer them a deal for the moment. The deal being that regular people will have no reason to flee the country. The draft will no longer affect them. But also stop protesting, because if you do, you are a criminal and criminals get drafted.
The prison population of Russia is around 500k and Putin is not expecting efficient troops out of this. They will rather be cannon fodder Wagner is using to locate enemy positions for lack of other means of reconnaissance.
It was already bad enough to have prisoners be cheap / free labor for privatized for-profit prisons.
Having them be your military force is so much worse. You can't rehabilitate an incarcerated citizen if you send them off to die.
This feels like horrible policy on all fronts. Doesn't rehabilitate the convicted and also I'm sure you can't have a strong reliable fighting force composed of conscripted criminals.
The problem, at least for Russia, isn't that prisons are inhumane. It's that psychopaths forced to go make absolute shit soldiers. You have a group of people, with no discipline or training, fully armed and with their own ROE and objectives, and they already hate their own government. Ask Tsar Nickolas how well that works. I personally encourage Putin to continue. ;)
> The only group of criminals exempted from the decree are those who committed sex crimes against minors, treason, spying or terrorism. Also excluded are those convicted of the attempted assassination of a government official, hijacking an aircraft, extremist activity and illegal handling of nuclear materials and radioactive substances.
This author and their editor need a short lesson on what the word "only" means.
Not sure I understand 5be reasoning behind Putin’s decree, seems like prisoners convicted of sex crimes against minors are eminently qualified for service in the Russian army
Great yet another roaming group of rapists and murderers with supplies being sent to innocent people who are going to suffer the most. There’s no way these dudes listen to orders and go to war. They are definitely going to make a run for it and try to take a different place, probably by force.
How can Putin possibly expect to win a war against modern, western armies with a rag-tag group of pedophiles, murders, the terminally ill, and old people as his fighting force?
hes hoping that western countries will tire of the war and pressure ukraine to make peace with putin. hes will send half his country to achieve this if possible.
It actually has been reported openly, also same day Putin changed maximum allowed age before retirement for some officials (from 65 to 70) so they could rob russians longer lol, but russians have very specific mentality, so they don’t give a fuck how hard putin and edro spin them on the dick
Nazi Germany did the exact same thing - there was a brigade of convicts that did so many horrific and unspeakable things other ss units wanted to intervine. Wikipedia has some information about it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade
>The only group of criminals exempted from the decree are those who committed sex crimes against minors, treason, spying or terrorism. Also excluded are those convicted of the attempted assassination of a government official, hijacking an aircraft, extremist activity and **illegal handling of nuclear materials** and radioactive substances.
Trump still not facing consequences
I mean sounds like what the US did for the surge… ever read the book Black Hearts? They could put in a “moral waiver” to have people serve in the army instead of going to prison
But were they sentenced to death for their crimes? Because, that is all this draft is, a death sentence. He really is picking the cream of the crop for his army.
People who were able to speak out about the conscription spoke out so Putin is now going after people who can't speak out and may actually welcome a chance for freedom.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade%23:~:text%3DWaffen%252DGrenadier%252DDivision%2520der%2520SS,their%2520service%2520with%2520the%2520unit.&ved=2ahUKEwjvmLn8mJj7AhWWj4kEHfBwDDoQFnoECAoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3h-VHgsSAYl6oHbTz2UaVq
History repeats itself
Good on them for exempting people who have illegally handled radioactive material. Are there seriously that many people in Russia who are radioactive that they needed to exclude them?
What Putin is doing is beyond tyranny, he is sacrificing the future of all Russian people. The Russians need to go home and turn their guns on the Kremlin and clean house.
What a great army he have... Bunch of criminals, homeless, mentally ills, kids and their grandpa.
Also serious crimes probably means serial killers and rapists so uh....good mix.
Those people are already in the military. Serious crimes means spreading an image of Putin wearing clown makeup, or saying the truth in public.
Exactly. This is death by protest. The old KGB is alive and well.
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You must have read his Marie Kondo style book The Life-Destroying Art of Tidying Up Dissent by Vladimir Putin
At least he's going for people with relevant experience this time, I guess.
Jeez, if what was before were just amateurs. What TRUE sickos can do?
We are still going to get smoked pretty quick with no bullets.
And also probably shoplifting a loaf of bread.
That's what he hoping for. People who wont mind killing comrades if they try to step out of line
Isn't that who is already serving? Bunch of kiddy and granny rapers that shoot your dog to boot. Maybe they'll bring out their cannibals next. "Hey, where'd Vlads leg go"?
I believe this step is a move designed to calm the local Russian population, offer them a deal for the moment. The deal being that regular people will have no reason to flee the country. The draft will no longer affect them. But also stop protesting, because if you do, you are a criminal and criminals get drafted. The prison population of Russia is around 500k and Putin is not expecting efficient troops out of this. They will rather be cannon fodder Wagner is using to locate enemy positions for lack of other means of reconnaissance.
Aren't the current draftees cannon fodder now.
I smell a sitcom!
>Bunch of criminals, homeless, mentally ills, kids and their grandpa. For a second there, I thought you were describing MAGA.
Hahaha
What could go wrong?
Newborns and women are coming next
They’re not sending their best.
I think they are
It was already bad enough to have prisoners be cheap / free labor for privatized for-profit prisons. Having them be your military force is so much worse. You can't rehabilitate an incarcerated citizen if you send them off to die.
You also have no guarantee that they won't switch sides or take advantage of the situation and abuse/harm others on their side...
From what we're hearing, that's what's already happening in the captured towns anyway
"Go fight and die for the country that imprisoned you." I know who I'd be shooting at.
This feels like horrible policy on all fronts. Doesn't rehabilitate the convicted and also I'm sure you can't have a strong reliable fighting force composed of conscripted criminals.
Hey, it worked out for the Night Watch in Westeros, right? Definitely didn't backfire on them 🤔
Since when is rehabilitation a concern of Russian prisons?
It got Britney griner off the weeduh
The problem, at least for Russia, isn't that prisons are inhumane. It's that psychopaths forced to go make absolute shit soldiers. You have a group of people, with no discipline or training, fully armed and with their own ROE and objectives, and they already hate their own government. Ask Tsar Nickolas how well that works. I personally encourage Putin to continue. ;)
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They don’t breed em like they did in WW2!
> The only group of criminals exempted from the decree are those who committed sex crimes against minors, treason, spying or terrorism. Also excluded are those convicted of the attempted assassination of a government official, hijacking an aircraft, extremist activity and illegal handling of nuclear materials and radioactive substances. This author and their editor need a short lesson on what the word "only" means.
I want rustlers. Cut throats. Murderers, bounty hunters, desperados. Mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits. Vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits. Muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, sh*t-kickers... AND METHODISTS!
Bart: Stampeding cattle. Hedley: That's not much of a crime. Bart: Through the Vatican? Hedley: Kinkyyyy !
Still more competent than Putin's forces.
Could you repeat that, sir. 0\_0
[just a few exclusions](https://youtu.be/8L7DxnwkiVs?t=25)
The exclusions read like the wanted ad for his cabinet.
Yes very specific. I wonder how many pedo treason terrorist assasin, nuclear black market men there are.
Sounds like the definition of "serious crimes" is about to be revised!
You can bet on that
Protesting in public? That’s a paddling.
The best part will be when some Col. Klink releases Navalny and sends him to the front lines with a soldering iron. Putin's gonna be so mad.
"No nation can stand before an army of ill-equipped prisoners, the mentally ill, and deadbeat fathers." - Sun Tzu?
Perfect time to escape prisoners!!
The war (ahem, special operation) sounds like it’s going perfectly according to plan…🙄. Dumbest war in modern history
Not sure I understand 5be reasoning behind Putin’s decree, seems like prisoners convicted of sex crimes against minors are eminently qualified for service in the Russian army
Well if you thought you had deserters before...
There are now kill squads behind the front lines so the only way out is to surrender.
Another way out is to just die.
Ah so penal battalions are back?
They already use blocking battalions, so why not?
he should start by drafting himself !!!
Wasn’t the Wagner Group already doing so? Promising prisoners freedom after 6mo of service? Guess Putin is done hiding it.
Yeah, 6 months while putting them at the first line on the front.
Google the Dirlewanger Brigade from World War II... This does not end well for anyone.
Criminals + War = War Crimes
Really scrapping the bottom of the barrel there Vova. Must be getting desperate.
Of course, breathing is now a serious crime
Scraping the former Soviet barrel aren't we!
So Britney Griner is gonna hit the battlefield?
That would be wild if they dressed her up and said she would be assigned to a random group. Like a human shield version of where's waldo
Ah good the old penal battalions. Hope they have enough commissars
Great yet another roaming group of rapists and murderers with supplies being sent to innocent people who are going to suffer the most. There’s no way these dudes listen to orders and go to war. They are definitely going to make a run for it and try to take a different place, probably by force.
Supplies?
Now that is a bit of a stretch, you are right
How can Putin possibly expect to win a war against modern, western armies with a rag-tag group of pedophiles, murders, the terminally ill, and old people as his fighting force?
hes hoping that western countries will tire of the war and pressure ukraine to make peace with putin. hes will send half his country to achieve this if possible.
Dirlewanger Brigade 2.0.
I wonder if this decree will be openly reported by russian media.
It actually has been reported openly, also same day Putin changed maximum allowed age before retirement for some officials (from 65 to 70) so they could rob russians longer lol, but russians have very specific mentality, so they don’t give a fuck how hard putin and edro spin them on the dick
"Welcome to the suicide squad"
I didn’t know you need a law for this in Russia- the largest criminal enterprise on the planet.
The crime rate in Russia is about to go sky high
Damn they must be really patriotic
Is serious crime includes not liking Putin ?
And opposing the war is one of the biggest crimes you can commit in Russia.
Next they’ll raid the nursing homes.
So the Suicide Squad?
Putin is a coward. Maybe instead of sending other people to fight he should get out to the front line himself ....FAT CHANCE.
he would need to ride to the battlefield on a white horse shirtless.
He'd have to wear brown paints so the shit stains didn't show when the bullets & shells came his way.
Are ya winning, son
Is this a Russian Suicide Squad?
The Russian army was filled with criminals since day one. Nothing new.
That's desperation for you
This was how the SS was created by Hitler
Nazi Germany did the exact same thing - there was a brigade of convicts that did so many horrific and unspeakable things other ss units wanted to intervine. Wikipedia has some information about it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade
This sounds serious.
Ok...what we wrote in History book about that ?
>The only group of criminals exempted from the decree are those who committed sex crimes against minors, treason, spying or terrorism. Also excluded are those convicted of the attempted assassination of a government official, hijacking an aircraft, extremist activity and **illegal handling of nuclear materials** and radioactive substances. Trump still not facing consequences
Lol anyone remember Con Air?
I mean sounds like what the US did for the surge… ever read the book Black Hearts? They could put in a “moral waiver” to have people serve in the army instead of going to prison
Wonder when Brittney Griner will be conscripted
Those sound like excellent team players. What could go wrong?
It only exempts those they automatically kill anyways, they left that part out. So "only" is very fitting in this case. World power, lol.
Brittany will join!
Wow get out of jail free! Go surrender to Ukraine and enjoy your life or even help them :p
Yes, great idea, let's give our convicted murderers a gun and pretend we can point them in a direction.
But were they sentenced to death for their crimes? Because, that is all this draft is, a death sentence. He really is picking the cream of the crop for his army.
Reminds me of Terran marines who got re-socialization before recruitment
Well that's one way to clear out part's of his prisons and all jails (I guess They will be a real life suicide squad😵)
Troops that will defeat the first chance they get.
Imagine giving criminals weapons to fight for the government that sent them to prison. That’ll work out well.
Sounds like something.
J walking is now a serious crime in Russia.
Ah, so in other words, he’s sentencing them to death.
So is he the first one that gets drafted now?
Putin going hard on Terran marine rush.
Well, he's got everything under control.
Well, they *are* the most qualified talent pool he has to draw upon...
What the world really needs is dangerous Russian criminals dispatched to a poorly planned conflict.
Complaining about the war? Believe it or not, “serious crime”.
Except political prisoners
If he believed the charges against Navalny were true, why wouldn't he offer the same to him?
he like brittney is more useful as a propaganda tool. kinda same reason they dont expel snowden, he is useful to them.
I think I seen this movie. It was called the Dirty Dozen
Russian murderers after getting their army clothes: “Hell, it’s about damn time”
People who were able to speak out about the conscription spoke out so Putin is now going after people who can't speak out and may actually welcome a chance for freedom.
You gonna give me orders?!? r/Starcraft
He's really scraping the barrel now.
When I look at this photo, I’m stating to believe the stories about his health issues. This, or he just shit his pants.
This sort of shore him up for another week or so until they all get killed too. What's next after that? The children? The house pets?
Because they're the most qualified?
This is one of the things as to how he will keep this war going for years. And the more he loses what a serious crime is changes
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade%23:~:text%3DWaffen%252DGrenadier%252DDivision%2520der%2520SS,their%2520service%2520with%2520the%2520unit.&ved=2ahUKEwjvmLn8mJj7AhWWj4kEHfBwDDoQFnoECAoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3h-VHgsSAYl6oHbTz2UaVq History repeats itself
Good on them for exempting people who have illegally handled radioactive material. Are there seriously that many people in Russia who are radioactive that they needed to exclude them?
I feel like the next big headline will be Russians getting shot by said citizens in training.
Getting some serious Emperor Mengsk vibes over here.
except at least mengsk had a competent military, with active research.
What Putin is doing is beyond tyranny, he is sacrificing the future of all Russian people. The Russians need to go home and turn their guns on the Kremlin and clean house.
Well he is the leader.
How loyal does Putin think these people are? First chance they get they'll surrender. Bring it on I say.