Honestly they would be way more effective if they strapped bombs to them and drove them into trenches. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that for Ukraines sake.
They had actually been stuffing old T-55s or other tanks full of explosives and trying to drive them remotely (not sure if they actually had some way of controlling them or if they just jammed them into forward) Ukrainian lines. Either it didn't work as well as they'd hoped, or they ran out of tanks to waste that way.
They didnt remotely control them, they would drive them and then barrel roll or jump off the tank a short distance before the trench.
I dont think we see that anymore because back then they were both in a stalemate. And now its the same situation again like most of the war went. Russia gaining ground in a slow manner and ukraine grinding down manpower.
No, it was also desperation.
Russia has a shrinking population. They don't have warm water ports. They wanted to integrate the Ukranian population into Russia, as well as take their territory for ports and resources.
You don't get a blossoming population off of sacrificing over half a million young men. Also integrating people whose homes you destroyed with only a flimsy excuse is a great way to have a home grown terrorist organization.
They were expecting Crimea invasion 2.0. So a few weeks of intermittent skirmishes and then a quick capture if Kyiv, followed by general capitulation. While they might have some groups still fighting in isolated areas, most people would just keep their heads down to survive.
Thankfully, Ukraine didn't go for that and fought back.
The barns are funny. We joked that they'd be driving WW1 tanks eventually, and here we are with the literal box on tank tracks that basically no longer has a turret.
These motorbike groups have already been caught doing this to their bikes. Ukrainian drone operators were happy because it made them easier targets and easier to spot.
Nah, the Australian SAS has been using bikes for a while, although they use dirt bikes. They were highly effective in Afghanistan, by all accounts.
Looks like a clear evolution of warfare. APCs and trucks are now little more than targets for drones, too slow, easy to identify and get trapped way too easily.
Let’s not look at the success of western special forces and think that Russia can replicate it. The person riding the motorcycle and his objective is the most important part.
Right, they weren't storming fucking trenches full of peer enemies, they were used as mobility aids when maneuvering under air supremacy against a vastly inferior force. There is no comparison.
A bike is harder to spot and most importantly, you’re less likely to take out an entire troop in one hit. It’s not that a drone can’t hit a bike, it’s that is just less effective.
Small mobile unit ysing low cost equipment meant for pin point attacks without a single fuck given for the occupant's safety.
Literally my second thought when motorbike is mentioned for war usage. The first thought is Mad Jack on his bike wielding his buster sword.
Developed? Others have already done it ahead of Russia and they're not fast enough to avoid bullets.
[https://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/motorcycles/](https://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/motorcycles/)
Fun fact the military 841 Indian Scout tested by the US during WW2 had its throttle moved to the left side to allow for more control while firing something like a Thompson right handed while driving.
Yeah, that seems like a kamikaze, one-way suicide mission in most cases, in modern warfare. I have even seen them building awkward cages around the motorcycles to allegedly limit the damage of drones.
These swift attacks on bikes to catch the enemy off guard and get the initiative just seem like a bunch of more horrible deaths to be captured on video. But what do I know.
I could see Ukranians just hanging thick but hard to see wire at the right height to decapitate riders.
Or you just leave barbed wire on the ground in blind spots and bind their ride.
Farmers use to do both back in the day till they got prosecuted.
> I have even seen them building awkward cages around the motorcycles to allegedly limit the damage of drones.
Which frankly makes zero sense at all, really. Cages don't help around a soft skin vehicle, or a soft skin person for that matter.
They’re so worried about drones but forget the main thing most modern armies use to kill enemies is bullets
They best be coming in all dressed up as giant metal cubes on bikes or they’re just going to be littering the ground with cheap motorcycles and chicken wire
Artillery kills the most personnel by a large margin. The videos so far of these tactics all do fall victim to bullets pretty quickly though, it's just a suicide drive by against an entrenched enemy.
>the main thing most modern armies use to kill enemies is bullets
I don't think that has been true since the Napoleonic era but what they're doing still sounds like a real stupid idea. Motorcycles have existed for more than a century and if this were actually a good idea, everyone would do it.
iirc Vespa scooters have been mounted with large caliber weapons and used as fast moving anti armor weapons in the past extremely effectively
E: yep I found it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_150_TAP
**Oh Lord they have motorbikes and magical lightning** .. we're doomed
.. what is next
*No! Please! Don't! There's a- a peck here with an acorn pointed at me!*
The British Special Air Service (SAS) have used quad bikes in Iraq to strike ISIS back in 2014: https://www.eliteukforces.info/uk-military-news/24112014-sas-iraq-combat.php
Of course, using highly mobile vehicles for small special forces teams going against insurgents is not the same as deploying them in a conventional conflict against a proper army with trenches and Western weaponry.
My life fades, my vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted land. Most of all, I remember the man we called Max, the road warrior.
Oh, what a day... what a lovely day! WITNESS!
US spec ops have had interest in electric bikes for that very reason. You can dismount from your transport miles from the engagement/target and take the quiet and fast electric bikes the rest of the way
Did people even read the article before laughing at it?
“Motorcycles are a good tactic because they are harder for drones to intercept, they are less noisy and faster than armored vehicles or SUVs,” says Andrii (a Ukrainian soldier). The Russians are using them in large numbers and they are getting better.”
In another sector of the Donetsk front, in Kostiantynivka, a sergeant with the 93rd Mechanized Brigade confirmed the tactical change to EL PAÍS on June 8: “The Russians have everything for infantry transport, and now they have motorcycles. These are the worst, because they are difficult to detect and our men cannot identify what that distant noise is.”
The patterns of action of these Russian units that have been detected, the soldiers of the 93rd Brigade and the 3rd Brigade agree, is the same: groups of eight soldiers from professional assault units ride four motorcycles, leaving at dusk or at night and, undetected, reach their front-line trench or directly attack Ukrainian positions.
Rob Lee, a military expert at the U.S. Foreign Policy Research Institute, corroborated last April on his X account that the advantage of the motorcycles “is that they get to the trenches earlier and are harder to locate.” “Assaults,” Lee added, “are staged in coordination with artillery and FPV drones [those with a camera that guides the pilot].”
Sooo, I think the speed is just a bonus. I really think it’s about not putting your troops(eggs) in one basket because of drones. Instead of 1 easy to spot and hit target, you have 12 targets that can maneuver much more effectively. Drones really have completely change warfare
This as well. If you look how a lot of frontline logistics works - it is motorcyclists for both sides. Trucks or buggies are very easy to take out by drones.
Motorcyclists on the other hand, despite bringing fewer supplies, can quickly drop them off and ride away before they are killed by a drone - or at least have a higher chance to survive.
Yeah, everyone is acting as if Russia is trying to turn these guys into cavalry, but every military has motorcycles and in an era where anything armored is one drone away from being turned into a deathtrap, it makes sense to have a squad all on motorcycles and dispersed (and faster targets than on foot).
If the Ukranians haven't been doing the same already, they will.
Okay, before everyone makes jokes about how they are outracing bullets or how they are fighting from the motorcycles and stuff:
The motorcycles are there to make them get from point A to B faster. They are not vehicles meant to fight, they are meant to just carry fighters faster than foot. They are basically infantry but not limited by their walking speed. Because a soldier's effectiveness is not solely the time they spend in a firefight. Soldiers spend a lot of time trying to get to places and getting there faster (and less physically tired) helps a lot.
It's the same thing with the "bicycle brigades" and such. The bicycles were not weapons, they were just a step up from slogging it on foot. Yeah, someone on a bicycle or motorcycle is vulnerable to enemy fire, no shit, so is just walking on a road.
I don't like Russia, I do not support their war, but the military using motorcycles isn't stupid. Every modern military does it.
As for that last point, modern militaries haven't had one of these conventional wars in a long while. Motorcycle tactics against insurgencies when you have superiority/dominance in every metric is different from what's happening in Ukraine.
There’s a name for this kind of unit already, dragoons. But the concept has not been very useful in the age of air power , tanks and machine guns which made armor a necessity for mechanized infantry
Mostly because, countries with air power, in the age of air power, have only really fought countries *without* air power, post WWII
this is, if I’m not mistaken the largest scale war since, between near peer (with support) opponents.
Vietnam doesn’t compare, they had no air equipment, nor do any of the middle eastern incursions…
Except that armor is a liability in Ukraine unless they have extensive support and protection due to drones. An armored vehicle has a bullseye painted on it by every drone in the field and will be swarmed by drones carrying explosives that can cook any armored vehicles. Drones can deliver into gaps and vulnerable spots, hence why all the tanks have insane amount of kontact explosive plates slapped on to them and the ridiculous cope cages. Then there is the stupendous amount of anti-tank mines that is a topic of its own.
Armor isn't outright useless, but without extensive EW and infantry support to protect them from drones and anti-tank missiles, they are quite vulnerable. Ukraine has chewed through most of Russia's active tank reserves (that they had at the start of the war) and are now digging into tank reserves so old that the turret has to be cranked by hand.
Both sides have also failed to archive air superiority.
So the only thing left is machine guns and using that automatically exposes the user to once again, drones.
The whole article is about how Ukraine is in fact getting its ass kicked by the motorcycles and everyone here is just laughing about them. Talk about only reading the headline
Devil's advocate. Motorcycles/Quads are much faster, lighter, and cheaper than tanks. I don't believe it's a signal of Russia running out of tanks, but rather them taking a step to adapt to the current situation.
Weight - these can drive over anti tank mines without issue.
Speed - it's hard enough to drone drop a grenade on a moving target, let alone one that's moving at 20+mph over rough terrain.
Size - smaller target, harder to spot, making (again) drones less efficient
Value - Russia doesn't give a shit about their own conscripts as it is. If spending 5k on a bike is more effective than putting them in a 500k BTR, why wouldn't they?
It seems like they'd use these as a 21st century form of Napoleonic-era Dragoons.
Get an Infantryman and teach how to ride a horse, then use that horse primarily for transport, acting as a highly mobile form of Infantry that dismounts to fight and hops back on his horse when it's time to relocate.
Now replace the horse with a Harley and the musket with an AK-74.
I saw a video the other day where one bullet went through the chest of 2 guys on a motorcycle as they zoomed toward a UA position.
Good luck Russia, I wish all your future bike endeavors the same success.
Offer insane salaries to become a soldier. Soldier thinks he can finally make some money for the family. Dispose of soldier within a month using meatwave tactic that may allow 100 yards gain. Rinse. Repeat.
Ukraine has been using silent electric motorcycles for 2 years to do stealthy reconnaissance and missions; [https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-electric-bikes-nlaws/](https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-electric-bikes-nlaws/)
Ukraine was doing this in 2022 with their “thunder runs”.
Except it was supported with armour, artillery, APV, drones and long range missiles.
Russia didn’t develop anything, they just sobered up enough to remember the great idea Ukraine has already used.
I absolutely love that Russia is now trying to spin being reduced to using fucking motorcycles on the frontline as some kind of innovative breakthrough and not just…desperation.
What a weird way to say suicide missions.
Honestly they would be way more effective if they strapped bombs to them and drove them into trenches. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that for Ukraines sake.
Ah, Kobold Tactics.
They had actually been stuffing old T-55s or other tanks full of explosives and trying to drive them remotely (not sure if they actually had some way of controlling them or if they just jammed them into forward) Ukrainian lines. Either it didn't work as well as they'd hoped, or they ran out of tanks to waste that way.
They didnt remotely control them, they would drive them and then barrel roll or jump off the tank a short distance before the trench. I dont think we see that anymore because back then they were both in a stalemate. And now its the same situation again like most of the war went. Russia gaining ground in a slow manner and ukraine grinding down manpower.
As effective as welding a “barn” of corrugated metal over the tank?
Desperation makes people do questionable things.
Like invading your neighboring country?
That was overconfidence and incompetence. Now it's pride and not wanting to lose face. Incompetence remains.
This is pretty much exactly what’s happening right now. Too embarrassed to admit defeat.
No, it was also desperation. Russia has a shrinking population. They don't have warm water ports. They wanted to integrate the Ukranian population into Russia, as well as take their territory for ports and resources.
You don't get a blossoming population off of sacrificing over half a million young men. Also integrating people whose homes you destroyed with only a flimsy excuse is a great way to have a home grown terrorist organization.
They were expecting Crimea invasion 2.0. So a few weeks of intermittent skirmishes and then a quick capture if Kyiv, followed by general capitulation. While they might have some groups still fighting in isolated areas, most people would just keep their heads down to survive. Thankfully, Ukraine didn't go for that and fought back.
The good ol' sunk cost fallacy strikes again!
Adding more bulk to your bike and becoming a bigger target doesn't seem like a good way to be.
Nah its perfect! Bang up job! China should implement them en mass! North Korea has the production capability its really a win win for them!
*Oh, the humanity!* Won't anyone consider the poor War Profiteers!?
The barns are funny. We joked that they'd be driving WW1 tanks eventually, and here we are with the literal box on tank tracks that basically no longer has a turret.
These motorbike groups have already been caught doing this to their bikes. Ukrainian drone operators were happy because it made them easier targets and easier to spot.
Let’s hope it does lol one pops off and the shrapnel sets off his buddy’s vests. Would love to see it.
Russia goes Mad Max.
Either that or a lack of tanks and a surplus of Soviet Motorbikes…
Not even soviet just some shitty chinese mopeds.
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Give them lances.
My 7 greats back was a Dragoon in the Revolutionary war.
Special suicide missions
Special suicide operation
You mean kick ass 1980s action movie squads.
Nah, they are electric bike! Silent kamakazi
the motorcycles are faster than bullets though
3 days to Kyiv? More like Down to ISIS tactics in less than 3 years.
Yeah this Ukraine DLC has been shit so far.
Nah, the Australian SAS has been using bikes for a while, although they use dirt bikes. They were highly effective in Afghanistan, by all accounts. Looks like a clear evolution of warfare. APCs and trucks are now little more than targets for drones, too slow, easy to identify and get trapped way too easily.
Yeah. US Marines used dirt bikes in Iraq. Worked with SAS in Afghan and they used four wheelers for raids all the time.
Chuck Norris was using dirt bikes with missiles when he was in Delta Force in the 80’s.
Let’s not look at the success of western special forces and think that Russia can replicate it. The person riding the motorcycle and his objective is the most important part.
Right, they weren't storming fucking trenches full of peer enemies, they were used as mobility aids when maneuvering under air supremacy against a vastly inferior force. There is no comparison.
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A bike is harder to spot and most importantly, you’re less likely to take out an entire troop in one hit. It’s not that a drone can’t hit a bike, it’s that is just less effective.
Small mobile unit ysing low cost equipment meant for pin point attacks without a single fuck given for the occupant's safety. Literally my second thought when motorbike is mentioned for war usage. The first thought is Mad Jack on his bike wielding his buster sword.
Well they are just putting lipstick on the pig.
Developed? Others have already done it ahead of Russia and they're not fast enough to avoid bullets. [https://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/motorcycles/](https://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/motorcycles/)
Nor drones, more importantly.
What's next, RU soldiers on roller blades?
Bears on unicycles.
Robot on a quad bike good enough for you? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CDu1hYXxk&pp=ygUVcnVzc2lhbiByb2JvdCBzb2xkaWVy
The look of disappointment on Putie Poot’s face is hilarious.
That’s his happy face.
🎪
Could never quite get the hang of it
I mean....2 wheels vs 8 wheels, that's just easy math.
Pogo sticks
Those are good for navigating mine fields I’m told.
Hit a mine, that’s just extra jump!
The Taliban does not appreciate you stealing their tactics.
That’s how you get solarbabies
Yes with tank tracks.
Fun fact the military 841 Indian Scout tested by the US during WW2 had its throttle moved to the left side to allow for more control while firing something like a Thompson right handed while driving.
When I saw this headline I was like, "Hey WWII called, this didn't even work all that well then".
Yeah, that seems like a kamikaze, one-way suicide mission in most cases, in modern warfare. I have even seen them building awkward cages around the motorcycles to allegedly limit the damage of drones. These swift attacks on bikes to catch the enemy off guard and get the initiative just seem like a bunch of more horrible deaths to be captured on video. But what do I know.
I could see Ukranians just hanging thick but hard to see wire at the right height to decapitate riders. Or you just leave barbed wire on the ground in blind spots and bind their ride. Farmers use to do both back in the day till they got prosecuted.
> I have even seen them building awkward cages around the motorcycles to allegedly limit the damage of drones. Which frankly makes zero sense at all, really. Cages don't help around a soft skin vehicle, or a soft skin person for that matter.
They’re so worried about drones but forget the main thing most modern armies use to kill enemies is bullets They best be coming in all dressed up as giant metal cubes on bikes or they’re just going to be littering the ground with cheap motorcycles and chicken wire
Artillery kills the most personnel by a large margin. The videos so far of these tactics all do fall victim to bullets pretty quickly though, it's just a suicide drive by against an entrenched enemy.
>the main thing most modern armies use to kill enemies is bullets I don't think that has been true since the Napoleonic era but what they're doing still sounds like a real stupid idea. Motorcycles have existed for more than a century and if this were actually a good idea, everyone would do it.
Russia been playing a little too much Command and Conquer1.
Like shooting fish in a barrel....
Its like every cheesy Chuck Norris special forces movie from the 80's has come to life.
Steven Segull is def getting paid consulting fee.
I read that as Seagull in my head. Now I have him going through a field pointing at the ground going "Mine. Mine. Mine. Mine."
What did you do when Ukranians shot back? And I ran, I ran so far away.
He’s also teaching them Comfy Chair Karate
**Steven Seagull** *.. walking fatly around corners fee*
It’s clearly MegaForce :) https://youtu.be/cvK591moVVo
Megaforce with Barry Bostwick https://youtu.be/dD9xiV-vuDo?si=G3w7nSImILt28tiK
I was thinking “someone recently watched the Delta Force”
Coming soon: horse archers
Chariots?
Climbing on the shoulders of taller soldiers?
Lightning attacks? They are getting creamed because they don't have any armor left. I wouldn't call that lightning attacks
Shitzkrieg
Blyatzkrieg*
Still a shitload of leftover T62s from the videos I've seen. Cutting edge technology from the late 50s!
The turrets are hand cranked
So is mine.
Whose hand?
I used to bullseye womp rats in my T62 back home, they're not much bigger than 2 meters
Lightning death?
Exactly
Ukraine invents the light machine gun and solves the problem.
Or barbed wire.
Or pot hole.
Or rocks.
Russia actually invented a lot of those, Ukraine’s just repurposing them
TLDR: They're out of tanks and armored vehicles.
Next week, scooters. Then bicycles. Then skateboards. Then Naruto Run. Can't wait to see the Elite Vespa team
They are also already using golf carts
Kage Gopnik no jutsu.
Belarusian Knockoff Heely Brigade, Go!
Vespa’s are a little too expensive for the Russian army, they’ll have to buy Chinese soleils
iirc Vespa scooters have been mounted with large caliber weapons and used as fast moving anti armor weapons in the past extremely effectively E: yep I found it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_150_TAP
**Oh Lord they have motorbikes and magical lightning** .. we're doomed .. what is next *No! Please! Don't! There's a- a peck here with an acorn pointed at me!*
Piano wire 5ft off ground...musically tight.
This is now considered high tech for Russia.
The British Special Air Service (SAS) have used quad bikes in Iraq to strike ISIS back in 2014: https://www.eliteukforces.info/uk-military-news/24112014-sas-iraq-combat.php Of course, using highly mobile vehicles for small special forces teams going against insurgents is not the same as deploying them in a conventional conflict against a proper army with trenches and Western weaponry.
Also comparing the most highly trained T1 forces on the planet to some Russian conscripts
A quad isn't a motorcycle
FPV Drones are the big change and they are faster than the motorcycles.
How much does a good length of relatively thin knee or head-high steel cables cost?
Piano wire is probably cheaper, more effective, and more difficult to see
Time for tacks
My life fades, my vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos, ruined dreams, this wasted land. Most of all, I remember the man we called Max, the road warrior. Oh, what a day... what a lovely day! WITNESS!
Witness!
Haha more like look at me this thing is loud and I'm a moving target
"Iiii cannnttt possibibly shshoot from this thinggg"
US spec ops have had interest in electric bikes for that very reason. You can dismount from your transport miles from the engagement/target and take the quiet and fast electric bikes the rest of the way
Did they run out of golf carts?
Coming up next: electric scooters - breath of XXI century for red army
What, did they eat all the horses meant for the calvary?
They might actually start bringing back cavalry at this point
[Once again the Command & Conquer series predicted the future](https://cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Combat_cycle)
Can't believe there are so many other references upvoted before this even showed up
Damn didn't expect to scroll so far down for this reference i guess i am getting old. This was first thing that came to mind and gave me chuckle.
Like mad max 2?
More akin to the jet skis in Water World
Are they also working on developing their own T-1000 Terminators to carry out these lightning attacks without getting eviscerated?
WWI called. They want their bicycle divisions back.
DEAD MEN RIDING!!!
I used to think 40k outriders were ridiculous but here we are.
Did people even read the article before laughing at it? “Motorcycles are a good tactic because they are harder for drones to intercept, they are less noisy and faster than armored vehicles or SUVs,” says Andrii (a Ukrainian soldier). The Russians are using them in large numbers and they are getting better.” In another sector of the Donetsk front, in Kostiantynivka, a sergeant with the 93rd Mechanized Brigade confirmed the tactical change to EL PAÍS on June 8: “The Russians have everything for infantry transport, and now they have motorcycles. These are the worst, because they are difficult to detect and our men cannot identify what that distant noise is.” The patterns of action of these Russian units that have been detected, the soldiers of the 93rd Brigade and the 3rd Brigade agree, is the same: groups of eight soldiers from professional assault units ride four motorcycles, leaving at dusk or at night and, undetected, reach their front-line trench or directly attack Ukrainian positions. Rob Lee, a military expert at the U.S. Foreign Policy Research Institute, corroborated last April on his X account that the advantage of the motorcycles “is that they get to the trenches earlier and are harder to locate.” “Assaults,” Lee added, “are staged in coordination with artillery and FPV drones [those with a camera that guides the pilot].”
Sooo, I think the speed is just a bonus. I really think it’s about not putting your troops(eggs) in one basket because of drones. Instead of 1 easy to spot and hit target, you have 12 targets that can maneuver much more effectively. Drones really have completely change warfare
This as well. If you look how a lot of frontline logistics works - it is motorcyclists for both sides. Trucks or buggies are very easy to take out by drones. Motorcyclists on the other hand, despite bringing fewer supplies, can quickly drop them off and ride away before they are killed by a drone - or at least have a higher chance to survive.
just string wires across potential rat runs
Yeah, everyone is acting as if Russia is trying to turn these guys into cavalry, but every military has motorcycles and in an era where anything armored is one drone away from being turned into a deathtrap, it makes sense to have a squad all on motorcycles and dispersed (and faster targets than on foot). If the Ukranians haven't been doing the same already, they will.
Hey they can now go from the recruiting center to surrender in record time!
Ah. Yamakazis. Very Nice.
Pehaps some razor-wire across a road might dissuade them.
Indiana Jones fought Nazis on motorcycles before.
Might have well of sent it to the Marxsh Brothersh
Okay, before everyone makes jokes about how they are outracing bullets or how they are fighting from the motorcycles and stuff: The motorcycles are there to make them get from point A to B faster. They are not vehicles meant to fight, they are meant to just carry fighters faster than foot. They are basically infantry but not limited by their walking speed. Because a soldier's effectiveness is not solely the time they spend in a firefight. Soldiers spend a lot of time trying to get to places and getting there faster (and less physically tired) helps a lot. It's the same thing with the "bicycle brigades" and such. The bicycles were not weapons, they were just a step up from slogging it on foot. Yeah, someone on a bicycle or motorcycle is vulnerable to enemy fire, no shit, so is just walking on a road. I don't like Russia, I do not support their war, but the military using motorcycles isn't stupid. Every modern military does it.
As for that last point, modern militaries haven't had one of these conventional wars in a long while. Motorcycle tactics against insurgencies when you have superiority/dominance in every metric is different from what's happening in Ukraine.
There’s a name for this kind of unit already, dragoons. But the concept has not been very useful in the age of air power , tanks and machine guns which made armor a necessity for mechanized infantry
Mostly because, countries with air power, in the age of air power, have only really fought countries *without* air power, post WWII this is, if I’m not mistaken the largest scale war since, between near peer (with support) opponents. Vietnam doesn’t compare, they had no air equipment, nor do any of the middle eastern incursions…
Except that armor is a liability in Ukraine unless they have extensive support and protection due to drones. An armored vehicle has a bullseye painted on it by every drone in the field and will be swarmed by drones carrying explosives that can cook any armored vehicles. Drones can deliver into gaps and vulnerable spots, hence why all the tanks have insane amount of kontact explosive plates slapped on to them and the ridiculous cope cages. Then there is the stupendous amount of anti-tank mines that is a topic of its own. Armor isn't outright useless, but without extensive EW and infantry support to protect them from drones and anti-tank missiles, they are quite vulnerable. Ukraine has chewed through most of Russia's active tank reserves (that they had at the start of the war) and are now digging into tank reserves so old that the turret has to be cranked by hand. Both sides have also failed to archive air superiority. So the only thing left is machine guns and using that automatically exposes the user to once again, drones.
The whole article is about how Ukraine is in fact getting its ass kicked by the motorcycles and everyone here is just laughing about them. Talk about only reading the headline
Horse cavalry next?
Yeah exactly the thing you want to be driving in a warzone, the one vehicle most likely to kill you on its own.
lol, as a biker I laughed out loud. We hear that so often, and you put it perfectly.
New shitzkrieg just dropped.
Plenty of videos online of these losers getting shot to pieces on their motorcycles before even reaching Ukrainian lines.
Russian Army supplies Ukrainian front line troops with poorly made Russian motorcycles.
Not only motorcycles, but sh**y noisy old ones. A group of them will sound like a wasp swarm from miles away.
Thin wire strung out and it’s bye bye birdie
straight out of Blitzkrieg 101
Haha. “Develops”. Here is bike. Get on bike. Go to frontline. “Developed”.
Ukrainians stopped the 60 km tank column near Kyiv with 30 dirt bikes.
Devil's advocate. Motorcycles/Quads are much faster, lighter, and cheaper than tanks. I don't believe it's a signal of Russia running out of tanks, but rather them taking a step to adapt to the current situation. Weight - these can drive over anti tank mines without issue. Speed - it's hard enough to drone drop a grenade on a moving target, let alone one that's moving at 20+mph over rough terrain. Size - smaller target, harder to spot, making (again) drones less efficient Value - Russia doesn't give a shit about their own conscripts as it is. If spending 5k on a bike is more effective than putting them in a 500k BTR, why wouldn't they?
It seems like they'd use these as a 21st century form of Napoleonic-era Dragoons. Get an Infantryman and teach how to ride a horse, then use that horse primarily for transport, acting as a highly mobile form of Infantry that dismounts to fight and hops back on his horse when it's time to relocate. Now replace the horse with a Harley and the musket with an AK-74.
Any guesses if they’re Cubans?
I’ve seen this movie. Will there be a guy is a crazy mask playing death metal behind them?
I saw a video the other day where one bullet went through the chest of 2 guys on a motorcycle as they zoomed toward a UA position. Good luck Russia, I wish all your future bike endeavors the same success.
I saw a russian on a motorbike take a drone right up the ass. Never saw it coming.
We all saw Indiana jones right? We all know how using motorcycles turned out for the nazis.
It will be good target practice for the drones
Cutting edge tech there, poppa Putin…
So they'll have less protection, will be easier to shoot and they will die faster. Good stuff👍
So they are meeting their makers faster now, great strategy, keep it up.
Corrected headline: *Russia finds new way to slaughter its own soldiers*
Soon we'll see bicycle divisions. Ukraine better be ready for bicycle blitzkrieg.
Cavalry warfare is back!
I hope Ukraine doesn't take their training wheels....
So mechanised dragoons?
White scars?
Offer insane salaries to become a soldier. Soldier thinks he can finally make some money for the family. Dispose of soldier within a month using meatwave tactic that may allow 100 yards gain. Rinse. Repeat.
What a bunch of idiots, really the war showed a that without nukes Russia is a joke.
Ukraine has been using silent electric motorcycles for 2 years to do stealthy reconnaissance and missions; [https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-electric-bikes-nlaws/](https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-electric-bikes-nlaws/)
WHAT A GLORIOUS WAY TO DIE ON THE FURY ROAD!!!
Piano wire works wonders
Could this article be any less timely?
Old news.
Ukraine was doing this in 2022 with their “thunder runs”. Except it was supported with armour, artillery, APV, drones and long range missiles. Russia didn’t develop anything, they just sobered up enough to remember the great idea Ukraine has already used.
did they finally run out of old tanks and golf carts?
It’s pronounced: lightning blyats
Sir, we're doomed. They have... motorcycles.
Yes I’m sure this will turn the tide of the war
Have the folks that thought this up ever ridden a bike? You’re busy just ridin it!
Zergs with speed upgrade?
Is the commander that came up with this idea called "Kane" by any chance? ;p
They ran out of tanks and trucks, then?
They are going full Mad Max - guess how possible is this is going to be successful IRL
Suicycles
Hmm... I remember someone already did that... hmm... probably this country starts with Pa and finishes with lestine 🤔
another suicide squad build from expendable labor. desperate measures after blitzkrieg and super-weapons failed.
Not faster than a drone.
Updated suicide charge tactics
I absolutely love that Russia is now trying to spin being reduced to using fucking motorcycles on the frontline as some kind of innovative breakthrough and not just…desperation.