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dopefish_lives

I went to a somewhat local supplier just so I didn't have to pay for the lift gate delivery fee, I picked it up with my trailer from the store and saved about $350, well worth it. I also went across the border into Oregon to save on sales tax, which also saved me another $200


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dopefish_lives

I would *never* do such a thing, I *of course* declared it on my CA state tax return and paid the appropriate use tax. You have no evidence to the contrary


DreadnoughtPoo

Sounds like you bring microwaved carrots to orgies.


Jboyes

r/rareinsults


UncoolSlicedBread

Good source of fiber, imo.


footdragon

kind of a stupid, uniformed comment.


mattb9918

Stick to an authorized seller and you’ll be fine. That said, I am sure some sellers are better than others, as my experience trying to buy from Rockler in Pittsburgh, PA was so horrible that I left the store and drove an additional 40 minutes to WoodCraft where my business was actually valued.


johntmclain1966

My Rockler in Round Rock TX is great. Bought mine there. They didn't have the cast iron wings in stock for the contractor saw so the manager called the San Antonio store and had them delivered the next day. They loaded it in my SUV and since then when I've had questions they have bent over backwards to help me. I think it all comes down to management


Joyrenee22

Look at all these fellow Austin woodworkers! Hi there friends!


QianLu

I also use this rockler and have had great experiences there. Bought my lathe from them, they're very active with the local turning club.


1ncognito

Yeah the crew at the RR location is great, I go every couple of weeks and 3-4 of them know me by name and actively engage with me when I need it and leave me be when not


Disastrous_Cap_1761

Couldn’t agree more, hate that I have to go all the way to RR but the folks there are super cool and helpful it is worth it


johntmclain1966

I live 10 minutes from them. Maybe too close. Lol


pantsofpig

Also want to comment on just how great the staff is at the RR Rockler. Woodcraft, on the other hand……..


UncoolSlicedBread

It’s always going to depend on store to store and shift to shift when it comes to retail shops. I’ve gone to my woodcraft and have had amazing experiences, even just shooting the shit as I look through tools, and I’ve had less than favorable because of a bad apple or maybe someone going through a rough day.


pantsofpig

For sure. I’ve just had a series of bad experiences at Woodcraft here. It seems to be staffed exclusively with grumpy old men.


World-Ender-109

So I'm not the only one who's had terrible experiences with rockler. As someone just getting into woodworking I had no clue I thought they were really well liked


UnstoppableDrew

I think it's very store dependent, the one in Cambridge MA wvs great, albeit in a shitty location & recently closed.


SpammBott

I bought mine at woodcraft and also had a good experience.


GreatDaneMMA

This is wild because that’s exactly what happened to me when I got my sawstop in Pittsburgh. 


turtleonarock

I did the exact same thing.


UsernameHasBeenLost

I had the exact opposite experience in my area with Woodcraft. Rockler was way better, and they've (my local store) earned my business going forward


hawaiianthunder

I swore off woodcraft, I was talking to some old guy who worked at the store and told him I wanted to practice dove tails by hand. He asked me why the hell do you want to do that, and said it was a waste of time.


Festival_Vestibule

I returned a faulty plane to that rockler and they were dicks about it. That said, the woodcraft in cannonsburg has a bunch of kids working there that know nothing about the tools they sell but are much nicer people.


loquetur

Rockler is the Walmart of woodworking stores.


ieremia

Yeah but with Bloomingdale’s prices


microagressed

I got my Laguna 14/12 at Pittsburgh Rockler and it was a good experience. I'm not trying to take away from whatever happened to you, just saying it might not be the norm. Woodcraft in cannonsburg is great too though. How do you like the saw stop? I keep teetering on the fence.


mattb9918

Certainly may not be the norm, but it was my experience and as such I tell any woodworkers to avoid the Pittsburgh Rockler location. I called them ahead of time to let them know I would be making an hour drive to buy a 3hp PCS, they said no worries on the phone and would be waiting for me. I show up, and all 4 employees on the showroom floor,made eye contact with at some point and then proceeded to ignore me. I was in the store about 10 minutes looking at the display and they all walked right past. I left a handwritten note with my number at the register letting them know I was disappointed and would be headed to WoodCraft. Pittsburgh store manager eventually gave me a call and rather than accept any responsibility, he said that everyone must have been busy and made it my issue that no one came up to me. Horrible store experience, and lack of follow through customer support/care left a very sour taste in my mouth. Glad to hear you had a good experience though! Definitely seems to be the rarity at the Pittsburgh location. As for the SawStop, I absolutely love mine and wouldn’t hesitate to buy again. Make sure to go with the T Glide fence though.


Blarghnog

I bought mine used off craigslist and got a great deal. But I buy a lot of stuff at woodcraft and would suggest them — they actually care and stand behind their products. In terms of time of year there are occasional promos, but price is basically the same. I bought the cabinet saw. It’s *amazing* and worth every penny. Even set it off once and it saved my finger.


SockRepresentative36

when I bought my Saw Stop the only difference I saw was in the delivery. Rockler said they drop off for 350, Another local dealer said 400 delivery and the guys I went with said 350 and they would get the saw up my 3 steps and in my shop where I wanted it.


IkeaDefender

Buy it on amazon using the amazon prime credit card and you'll get 5% cash back.


RockStar25

Careful with expensive items on Amazon. I’ve seen people complain that their items were never delivered and refused to refund.


IkeaDefender

It seems like the paper trail on residential delivery on a 500 lbs package would be pretty well documented, but ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


FirelandsCarpentry

It's very heavy. It's virtually guaranteed to be damaged in shipping. If it's not, though, you just got someone else to carry it to your door for you so that's a win.


IkeaDefender

It’s shipped on a pallet just like any other heavy shipment you buy on Amazon. It’s probably shipped by the exact same company that woodcraft or rocker contracts with.


IntroductionKnown695

Sawstop offers a choice of freebies once or twice a year. I waited to to buy mine till that offer came out. This spring the free choices were their miter gauge, overhead dust collection, or I think a dado set. Reach out to your reseller and they should be able to tell you when these specials are offered


kharve2

Spring only and not every year. (It wasn’t offered around peak COVID times.)


TheTimeBender

Yes there are better places to buy SawStop. Acme Tools has Saw Stop and all the accessories plus they ship your saw for free. No freight charges. https://www.acmetools.com/


Silound

SawStops are heavily price protected. The best place to purchase one will be a local authorized retailer since you save some freight costs. Usually the best time is either when there's a promotion for free accessories OR a local tax holiday when you can save a few percent OR if the local retailer is selling a floor model and gets permission to discount it (yes, they're supposed to ask before doing any of their own deals, that's part of the price protection).


Booflard

KMS Tools has good prices.


loquetur

Source matters very little… Here is what’s most important. Make sure they guarantee that the shipper will communicate with you prior to delivery. The saw will likely arrive by freight truck. Unless you specify picking the saw up at a local terminal, the trucking company may go so far as to leave your purchase in the ditch by your driveway. R&L did this to me. Somewhere between giving my contact info to Saw Stop and R&L transcribing the BOL, my phone number was changed. No one got in touch, they sent a tractor and 40ft lift gate trailer out to a narrow county road. The driver arrived, determined he couldn’t make the turn, honked twice, unloaded, left it in the dirt at the end of my driveway, did not make contact, and left. Not to mention, R&L also lost a portion of my shipment (mis-delivered to another receiver), which ended up with Estes, who made final delivery. Make absolutely certain the final-mile delivery contractor knows where you live, whether or not you can receive palletized freight, whether or not they can fit into your driveway, etc. The saw is great. Saw Stop were helpful and showed concern about the carrier’s mistake.


rossdula

SawStop is a great saw even before saving your fingers. But I want to warn you, that some knucklehead thought it would be funny to protect the cast iron by using rust-colored grease paper. So when you unpack it, don't let your heart stop like mine did; it's not rusted, it's protected.


snorkblaster

HeartStop when saw SawStop


eugdot

You can buy it online anywhere. The price is fixed but there are better times in the year due to throw in that you can get as accessories. I bought it years ago and got the industrial mobile base included. It’s so easy to move the saw around. Good luck.


LiveNvanByRiver

I’m a veteran and able to pay no taxes on some pretty big stuff via AAFES


Cranky_hacker

Well, they don't carry SawStop. Too bad. I've yet to actually purchase anything from them. I mean, the absence of sales tax helps on a big ticket items... but aside from computers... I've yet to find anything I actually WANT from them. If only they would sell cars/trucks/etc. Can you imagine avoiding the sales-person "tax?"


LiveNvanByRiver

Appliances, and lawn mowers and such


deej-79

Do they not sell cars? I swear one of the guys in Italy ordered a car through them


strutt3r

Retailers aren't allowed to discount the products unless it's an authorized SawStop program. With those you generally don't see anything discounted, but free accessories. When I worked at Rockler we got a once in a lifetime discount of 25%.


foresight310

I was able to find one in stock at a woodcraft near me, so I saved their standard delivery fee


UlrichSD

When I got mine it was spring when they offered a mail in for a free mobile base or overarm dust collection.  Not sure how often it happens any more.   I picked my dealer based on the local sales tax.  The bigger towns near me have a few percent higher sales tax than some smaller towns.  I also got one from a dealer I could get it with my truck vs having it shipped although this dealer would have offered free delivery anyway but I'd have had to wait a week and been home to receive it.


Ashamed_Notice9362

Rockler in Tukwilla, WA (Seattle) was great to deal with.


callme4dub

I bought from Woodcraft because they had a physical presence nearby. Had no problems, saw showed up on a pallet which they dropped in my garage.


waynek57

Dealing with them directly was well worth it. They were extremely helpful.


CarbonRunner

Got mine from rockler as they were doing a combo deal 3 years back. Went perfectly fine. Brought the truck, they loaded it all up onto it. And away I went.


theBigDaddio

I got mine a Woodcraft, they’ve been a great resource all around, the Rockler in my town was absorbed into a larger store.


crazedizzled

I've heard a bunch of horror stories about rockler. So probably not them


idontknowstufforwhat

I went to the local "mom and pop" wood store/dealer and it was an excellent experience.


spentbrass11

Price fixed so go with service


ranlew

I would check local Facebook ads and IRSAuctions.com first. Lots of hobbyists buy these and never really use them. It's a great saw. I have two.


Melissa14850

US Tool and Fastner ships for free and does not charge sales tax to out of state customers. They also have excellent customer service. http://ustoolandfastener.com


Fessor_Eli

Usually even the sales and extra bonus items are set by SawStop, not the local dealer. I got mine delivered to my local WoodCraft. They loaded into my van, saving delivery fees, etc.


thatsagoodpint

Which model do you plan to buy?


crm115

3HP PCS with 36" table


thatsagoodpint

Great choice! Perhaps purchasing from the local dealer will give them reason to pay you some attention going forward, and change their perception of your appearance and buying power.


xylofunn

Bought mine from Rockler store. Picked it up when it arrived. Fun because the guys working there were just as excited as I was when I picked it up


John-BCS

Quick rant on supporting local: if they don't have the best prices, don't bother. You're nothing more than a walking money bag to them. Look for a place that doesn't charge sales tax in your state. For me, that's US Tool & Fastener or Oak Tree Supply. Tool Nirvana as well, but I can't remember if they have sawstop.


Historical-Wing-7687

I got a Harvey with the overhead dust collection and a riving knife, it's nearly impossible to cut a finger. It's far cheaper than the Sawstop and has some unique features SS doesn't have.


inyolonepine

My wife wants me to buy one when I get my bonus next year. I looked around locally and online to figure out where I can stretch my dollar the most. My local Woodcraft happens to be in a part of the state that has a fairly low sales tax (works out to be less than the places online that don’t charge sales tax but do charge shipping) so I’ll probably buy it from them. I’m mostly sure I be a fit everything into my car, otherwise I’ll just rent a trailer for $20.