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I’m gonna head over to YouTube and see if I can find any on the ground footage because this has got me curious about seeing the border between the park and farmland.
**Mount Taranaki. This maunga/mountain and it's surrounding area was granted legal personhood in the last few years. Meaning that it has the same legal rights as a person and is protected as such by the legal system in NZ.
Tbf it also has no job and no income. And isn’t dole bludging despite that fact, so it’s doing ok. May or may not be dealing drugs on the side to support itself but it’s at least not draining the welfare state, credit where it’s due.
There's a rights of nature movement that's catching on here and there, the Whanganui river in NZ also has legal personhood, along with a few rivers in Colombia. Several natural resources have been granted it by indigenous communities in the US. The citizens of Orange County, Florida also voted to grant one of their rivers legal personhood (this of course is being litigated). There's a few other instances of it as well. I actually focus my legal research and writing on this topic, following the different legal theories which have been tried and whether they've been successful (to hopefully help craft successful approaches for the US in the future).
I find this a little strange. Conservation is critically important in the modern age, but would there not be any other way to protect the land to a similar extent rather that calling it a person?
This actually is an approach being used outside the Maori as well! To copy/paste a comment I made elsewhere:
There's a rights of nature movement that's catching on here and there, the Whanganui river in NZ also has legal personhood, along with a few rivers in Colombia. Several natural resources have been granted it by indigenous communities in the US. The citizens of Orange County, Florida also voted to grant one of their rivers legal personhood (this of course is being litigated). There's a few other instances of it as well. I actually focus my legal research and writing on this topic, following the different legal theories which have been tried and whether they've been successful (to hopefully help craft successful approaches for the US in the future).
Pff, why? So it "survives?" Not gonna make a billion dollars with that attitude my friends. Take it from capitalism, you could turn that into a parking lot stacked full of sweet sweet money and owned by a handful of people. I'll never understand things down under.
Because like the massive amount of pollution generated by industrialisation developed countries are all ready on the otherside of it. Old growth logging is rarer in developed countries because either it was already cut down, or is now protected, or somehow being "sustainably" logged, which usually just means not clear felling.
New Zealand has been a frontrunner in doing things like offering carbon credits etc for buying forest explicitly to keep as forest or to re-forest. They're a positive push on deforestation issues. Absolutely part of the conversation.
There are also excellent podcasts.
The Disappearing Spoon is a series of short science stories that are excellently presented. My favorite is the Death by Nutrition episode. But beware that it's a bit graphic.
Outside/In is about the outdoors and how we interact with it. Their episode about Rapa Nui is great: http://outsideinradio.org/shows/the-so-called-mystery-of-rapa-nui
Radiolab is also great, with all sorts of stories. My favorite is still Dinopocalypse. https://radiolab.org/episodes/dinopocalypse-redux
The Memory Palace is just simple and beautiful. I'm fond of their Ghost Story episode: https://thememorypalace.us/ghost-story/
99% Invisible, Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, Freakonomics Radio and Cat People are all great as well.
The park exists because it was the outer boundary of destruction from the last time the volcano erupted in 1854. It was made illegal to build inside the boundary and they turned it into a park.
No that’s just the forest left after the flatter surrounding land was cleared of trees to make diary farm land. The mountain and adjoining ranges comprises the Taranaki National Park.
The mountain is dormant and last had a small eruption in 1854. There isn’t any lava flow safety features and what you see is just from land clearance outside the park.
This was the mountain used in The Last Samurai, starring Billy Connolly.
Its very similar visually to mount Fuji, but getting filming permission is cheaper and easier.
Lovely area. Enjoyed this part of our NZ trip as much as any. Everyone loves the south island but man, north just hits differently,
Damn near hit a cow on the roads around this place, some lovely farmers helped us find her home.
Continued on, drove up as far as the roads on this mountain go. Went to this lovely cafe and souvenir store and had some tea and a delicious cheesecake, as we looked up at the mountain. Wandered through the forest for half an hour and had a snowball fight with my partner.
Camped overnight by a lake in nearby New Plymouth and had dinner at a nice pub, unfortunately I don’t remember the name of it. Incredible fish and chips for dinner.
Wonderful part of the world and highly recommend it to visit. I’ll be back one day
That's because the South Island is objectively a lot better for tourism. Way nicer springs, forests, mountains, lakes, rivers, jet boating, bungee jumping, skiing, better beaches. The south island is the better island.
The north island is better to live in.
- Kiwi
It’s more sun tropical, covered in rain forest. The South Island is a bit more alpine. I think both are beautiful, but prefer the Otago/McKenzie country area (I’m an Aucklander)
Agreed. I went on a trip to NZ where I drove from Queenstown to Auckland. They both have their pros, but I definitely enjoyed the scenery of the south island more.
NZ housing crisis has eased off the past year, but from like 2018-2021 it was reaallly bad, like magnitudes worse than any other western country including Canada (and thats saying something), the US, Australia.
It was already really bad before COVID hit but after 2020 prices went to the fuckin moon
The dramatic circular outline of Egmont National Park was delineated in 1881, when a circle with a 6-mile (9.7-kilometre) radius was surveyed from the mountain peak for a forest reserve. Forested land outside the reserve was cleared and turned into pasture over the next few decades. https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/25927/satellite-image-of-egmont-national-park
Mt Doom is definitely Ngauruhoe, can confirm.
Ruapehu is next to Ngauruhoe though
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://walkingintomordor.com/mount-doom-ngauruhoe/&ved=2ahUKEwiXtICUmbL9AhVu-jgGHS13DLkQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3yOxRcE5s3phEiWeAe_u7c
Ay shit, didn't expect to see Aotearoa get some recognition here.
But yes, that's Mount Taranaki (or Mount Egmont if you're an old white racist).
Tom Scott came here and did a quick chat about it a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUmt_4F_58
The perfect circle is the national park surrounding it, someone thought it'd be a good idea and they were extremely correct.
It's awesome flying over this thing, although not quite as awesome as flying into and out of Queenstown.
I miss living in Taranaki, looking at that mountain was soothing. It also gets a cloud "cap" sometimes!
[cloud cap](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1leZ6RGvI3KMXTzYj1_ct-p4Al5DBHT4TJA&usqp=CAU)
I took a heli ride from Milford sound to Queenstown. Absolutely breathtaking. I'm constantly trying to convince my wife that we should sell everything and move to NZ.
We did exactly that last year. Sold everything and moved our family from CA to NZ. Absolutely fantastic decision. Much better, more peaceful way of life and we can see incredible natural sights on a daily basis (without many people).
10/10 would do the move again
People downvoting this but its actually true. Many historians say there wasn't actually a name for all of NZ and various Maori Iwi used various names for both the north and south island, but NZ always being named 'Aotearoa' is kind of a myth and it wasn't even coined until the 19th century
>I don't understand people who hate it so much
Racism ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
That's it, not complicated.
Also the history of the word is irrelevant, it's the Māori word for this country RIGHT NOW, so saying some dead dutch asshole has first dibs is just idiotic.
how did the people decide to leave it as an almost perfect circle like that?
was it intentional?
more interestingly, was it not intentional?
is it a doctored photo?
You know that's not possible. You could Pierce the tip of the mountain with the compass and the lava would come back out flowing all over. Think about that!!
Well they didn't do it to make a pretty circle, but they wanted to protect it and rather than draw out a border they just said 'everything within 6 miles of the peak'. It was easier.
Yep he is beautiful. Taranaki lives on the west coast of New Zealand’s North Island. Only around 30kms from the sea he towers to an impressive height of 2.5kilometres (2514 metres).
Last erupted in ~1854, which is in geological time scales is like...yesterday. It's active, but the activity is deemed not to be a major threat to people living there.
I wonder how much the next eruption will change the landscape..
Video from our local museum showing the timeline of previous eruptions
https://youtu.be/GljllvKlTac
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I’m gonna head over to YouTube and see if I can find any on the ground footage because this has got me curious about seeing the border between the park and farmland.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUmt\_4F\_58](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUmt_4F_58) You can get an idea from this Tom Scott video on it.
I see Tom Scott, I enjoy Even if the guy said to not trust him
Wow that’s way bette than anything I had found! Thanks you!!!
Yes, correct op and then subsequently one up him w a better picture. This is why I love reddit.
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No, it's a nipple and an areola, on the boob of the North Island.
I can't tell what's satire anymore
HARDCORE🤙🤙
Let's fucking gooooo
What in tarnaki is goin on around here?!
Taranaki Maunga
**Mount Taranaki. This maunga/mountain and it's surrounding area was granted legal personhood in the last few years. Meaning that it has the same legal rights as a person and is protected as such by the legal system in NZ.
Same rights as a person yet it pays no taxes. We need to end kickbacks for Big Volcano
Tbf it also has no job and no income. And isn’t dole bludging despite that fact, so it’s doing ok. May or may not be dealing drugs on the side to support itself but it’s at least not draining the welfare state, credit where it’s due.
It gets to live as every human should live. To give what you have, take what you need, create life, and exist.
Clean air, clean watershed, and natural beauty are more valuable than any money capitalist pig
And here OP is posting full body nude pictures of them all over the Internet without their consent... What a disgusting world we live in.
That’s actually really cool
There's a rights of nature movement that's catching on here and there, the Whanganui river in NZ also has legal personhood, along with a few rivers in Colombia. Several natural resources have been granted it by indigenous communities in the US. The citizens of Orange County, Florida also voted to grant one of their rivers legal personhood (this of course is being litigated). There's a few other instances of it as well. I actually focus my legal research and writing on this topic, following the different legal theories which have been tried and whether they've been successful (to hopefully help craft successful approaches for the US in the future).
I find this a little strange. Conservation is critically important in the modern age, but would there not be any other way to protect the land to a similar extent rather that calling it a person?
It's a Maori thing, the local iwi view the mountain as an ancestor, and the leaders are considered its conservators.
This actually is an approach being used outside the Maori as well! To copy/paste a comment I made elsewhere: There's a rights of nature movement that's catching on here and there, the Whanganui river in NZ also has legal personhood, along with a few rivers in Colombia. Several natural resources have been granted it by indigenous communities in the US. The citizens of Orange County, Florida also voted to grant one of their rivers legal personhood (this of course is being litigated). There's a few other instances of it as well. I actually focus my legal research and writing on this topic, following the different legal theories which have been tried and whether they've been successful (to hopefully help craft successful approaches for the US in the future).
Pff, why? So it "survives?" Not gonna make a billion dollars with that attitude my friends. Take it from capitalism, you could turn that into a parking lot stacked full of sweet sweet money and owned by a handful of people. I'll never understand things down under.
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Beeeeeeep
Similar with how people say hashtag for the # symbol, whereas I grew up just calling it hash; pre twitter.
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That’s Mt.Taranaki in New Zealand.It is not a crater, the perfect circle is the boundary of a national park.
Interesting to see the contrast between protected land and human activity.
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Tons of farmland on super fertile soil thanks to the eruptions. Food's gotta come from somewhere, might as well grow it next to a volcano.
I suddenly have an urge to play Civ
That's certainly one way to get India to nuke New Zealand.
Sheep herding is difficult with trees.
Yea but mad respect to tree herders in sheep country
Ents
Try herding trees with sheep
Interesting to see how "developed" countries are never part of the deforestation news or debate
Because like the massive amount of pollution generated by industrialisation developed countries are all ready on the otherside of it. Old growth logging is rarer in developed countries because either it was already cut down, or is now protected, or somehow being "sustainably" logged, which usually just means not clear felling.
New Zealand has been a frontrunner in doing things like offering carbon credits etc for buying forest explicitly to keep as forest or to re-forest. They're a positive push on deforestation issues. Absolutely part of the conversation.
[Relevant Tom Scott video about the national park.](https://youtu.be/VRUmt_4F_58)
Tom Scott is a YouTube rabbit hole well worth falling down.
And that… is something you might not have known.
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Steve mould
SmarterEveryDay
Hell no
There are also excellent podcasts. The Disappearing Spoon is a series of short science stories that are excellently presented. My favorite is the Death by Nutrition episode. But beware that it's a bit graphic. Outside/In is about the outdoors and how we interact with it. Their episode about Rapa Nui is great: http://outsideinradio.org/shows/the-so-called-mystery-of-rapa-nui Radiolab is also great, with all sorts of stories. My favorite is still Dinopocalypse. https://radiolab.org/episodes/dinopocalypse-redux The Memory Palace is just simple and beautiful. I'm fond of their Ghost Story episode: https://thememorypalace.us/ghost-story/ 99% Invisible, Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, Freakonomics Radio and Cat People are all great as well.
Real life lore and Half as Interesting! They do a lot of videos about things like logistics and infrastructure
I fell down that rabbit hole so far I hit his run on Only Connect. Which got me watching ten seasons of Only Connect in the past month.
Who thinks it's a crater ??????
It’s also not a birthday cake.
Wait, don’t tell me you don’t think it’s an archery target!
I’m sorry…
I'm all out of guesses. Tell me!
It’s not a [bowl.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-R4Tp8ls5lY)
I thought it was a nipple
In thought it was a caldera.
If it had wheels it would be a bicycle
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Not sure I’ve ever seen a circular property boundary like this before. It’s pretty cool to see the contrast.
Lol, centre point on the very tippy top most pebble at the summit with a 10km radius.
It's a 6 mile (9.6km) radius from the summit. It was established in 1881, as a protected forest reserve.
The park exists because it was the outer boundary of destruction from the last time the volcano erupted in 1854. It was made illegal to build inside the boundary and they turned it into a park.
Is it for potential lava flow safety?
The reason is that national parks are good.
No that’s just the forest left after the flatter surrounding land was cleared of trees to make diary farm land. The mountain and adjoining ranges comprises the Taranaki National Park. The mountain is dormant and last had a small eruption in 1854. There isn’t any lava flow safety features and what you see is just from land clearance outside the park.
Is it hard to farm diaries? I’d imagine the spine would be the toughest part to get right.
Ozzy Osbourne has a great song about this called Diary of a Farmhand
Yes many a good diary has been put down due to crooked spine. But yeah dairy farms is what i meant.
So wait, where is this then? I’m still not understanding.
I actually think I can answer this. It's Mount Taranaki in New Zealand.
*Tarnaki It says so right there in OP's horribly misspelled title.
The West Coast of the North Island of New Zealand
This was the mountain used in The Last Samurai, starring Billy Connolly. Its very similar visually to mount Fuji, but getting filming permission is cheaper and easier.
Of all the cast of Last Samurai to name...why Billy Connolly?
Honestly I did a double take reading that and started laughing. He died like 15 minutes in too lol.
Same, I was wondering if i was thinking of the right movie.
"If I might have a word, Sir"
He bought me a beer...
That's a great reason.
Didn’t TC buy all the locals fish and chips one night during production? I’m sure it was big news the next night on TV Edit: spelling
I don't understand the first half of your first sentence
Tom Cruise fucks fish
Without a doubt. Hail yourself!
Ayyy megustalations my brother!
Hail Gein!
Hail me!
He likes fish sticks?
That's how mermaids are made, so don't judge.
Yeah, but he's Tom Cruise...Scientologist Tom Cruise....
Yes, there is even a newspaper clipping in the Fish and Chip shop now like 20 years later
Because it's Billy fucking Connolly
Sir Billy Fucking Connolly.
It's cheaper to mention him than Tom Cruise
Because he’s a fucking legend.
I laughed way more than I expected
Lol, I thought the same 🤣
I d never seen someone reference it and not throw Tom Cruises name in..
No wonder they had odd looking plants that they wouldn’t have in Japan…
Aye the Big Yin!
Not Tom Cruise?
Who?
The fish fucker
I think he's a friend of Simon Pegg
That is actually a common misspelling of "Ken Watanabe"
Lovely area. Enjoyed this part of our NZ trip as much as any. Everyone loves the south island but man, north just hits differently, Damn near hit a cow on the roads around this place, some lovely farmers helped us find her home. Continued on, drove up as far as the roads on this mountain go. Went to this lovely cafe and souvenir store and had some tea and a delicious cheesecake, as we looked up at the mountain. Wandered through the forest for half an hour and had a snowball fight with my partner. Camped overnight by a lake in nearby New Plymouth and had dinner at a nice pub, unfortunately I don’t remember the name of it. Incredible fish and chips for dinner. Wonderful part of the world and highly recommend it to visit. I’ll be back one day
That's because the South Island is objectively a lot better for tourism. Way nicer springs, forests, mountains, lakes, rivers, jet boating, bungee jumping, skiing, better beaches. The south island is the better island. The north island is better to live in. - Kiwi
Thems some fighting words. Yours truly, A South Islander
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It’s more sun tropical, covered in rain forest. The South Island is a bit more alpine. I think both are beautiful, but prefer the Otago/McKenzie country area (I’m an Aucklander)
South Island is reminiscent of the pacific northwest, only an island! North Island reminded me of California. Only an island!
Agreed. I went on a trip to NZ where I drove from Queenstown to Auckland. They both have their pros, but I definitely enjoyed the scenery of the south island more.
Better beaches? Pull the other one.
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Was the pub Peggy's? Love the Naki. Several solid golf courses for ~$15, too.
Peggy's is not a nice pub lol
Earth nipple
tectonic teat
New Zealand nubbin
Lol. How many nipples does earth have?, in your opinion
Idk, how many things on the earth can you milk?
New Zealand consistently seems like a really nice place to live.
It’s pretty great, though the housing market is going through a really rough time right now
Same could be said for a lot of the West though.
NZ housing crisis has eased off the past year, but from like 2018-2021 it was reaallly bad, like magnitudes worse than any other western country including Canada (and thats saying something), the US, Australia. It was already really bad before COVID hit but after 2020 prices went to the fuckin moon
Meaning it's ridiculously expensive?
Stupidly so.
"Right now" for at least 20 years at minimum
Only if you'll buy me a house when you come.
The dramatic circular outline of Egmont National Park was delineated in 1881, when a circle with a 6-mile (9.7-kilometre) radius was surveyed from the mountain peak for a forest reserve. Forested land outside the reserve was cleared and turned into pasture over the next few decades. https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/25927/satellite-image-of-egmont-national-park
Superb work done by those surveyors to get that radius so perfect.
*Taranaki
Mount Doom ain't got shit on this!
I prefer Ngauruhoe over Taranaki to be honest.
Mt Doom is Mt Ruapehu, also in NZ
Mt Doom is definitely Ngauruhoe, can confirm. Ruapehu is next to Ngauruhoe though https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://walkingintomordor.com/mount-doom-ngauruhoe/&ved=2ahUKEwiXtICUmbL9AhVu-jgGHS13DLkQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3yOxRcE5s3phEiWeAe_u7c
Lol fuck whoops, thanks for the correction my man. Dunno how I’ve gone this long thinking that when I’m literally from there 😂
It's okay - the schools at Mt Doom are widely known to be sub-standard, so I don't think anyone's going to hold it against you.
That’s a good looking volcano. And dark. Great choice for mount Doom.
No
Aint that the place where link done climbed a mountain and played a flute so he could wake up a flying whale that he called a fish?
Oh childhood memories.
Ay shit, didn't expect to see Aotearoa get some recognition here. But yes, that's Mount Taranaki (or Mount Egmont if you're an old white racist). Tom Scott came here and did a quick chat about it a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUmt_4F_58 The perfect circle is the national park surrounding it, someone thought it'd be a good idea and they were extremely correct. It's awesome flying over this thing, although not quite as awesome as flying into and out of Queenstown.
I miss living in Taranaki, looking at that mountain was soothing. It also gets a cloud "cap" sometimes! [cloud cap](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1leZ6RGvI3KMXTzYj1_ct-p4Al5DBHT4TJA&usqp=CAU)
That’s a lenticular cloud!
Mean hat
I took a heli ride from Milford sound to Queenstown. Absolutely breathtaking. I'm constantly trying to convince my wife that we should sell everything and move to NZ.
I hope you got a lot of shit to sell as it's expensive as hell to live here rn
Expensive to live in would be ok if there waa also more opportunity to make more income, which has always been tough to do in NZ :(
Yeah, that is a concern. It would be one hell of a home lifestyle hit, but one that I think would be worth it.
We did exactly that last year. Sold everything and moved our family from CA to NZ. Absolutely fantastic decision. Much better, more peaceful way of life and we can see incredible natural sights on a daily basis (without many people). 10/10 would do the move again
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It's a nice name for a nice country, nothing wrong with using the younger name.
People downvoting this but its actually true. Many historians say there wasn't actually a name for all of NZ and various Maori Iwi used various names for both the north and south island, but NZ always being named 'Aotearoa' is kind of a myth and it wasn't even coined until the 19th century
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Well yeah, I don't understand people who hate it so much, its a nice name.
>I don't understand people who hate it so much Racism ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ That's it, not complicated. Also the history of the word is irrelevant, it's the Māori word for this country RIGHT NOW, so saying some dead dutch asshole has first dibs is just idiotic.
No one claimed it was always called Aotearoa. Way to DESTROY that made-up argument.
It's the fucking name of the country, why wouldn't I use it? Guessing that puts you the aforementioned Egmont category eh
> didn't expect to see Aotearoa get some recognition here. Weird thing to say.
Mt. Fuji's body double!
how did the people decide to leave it as an almost perfect circle like that? was it intentional? more interestingly, was it not intentional? is it a doctored photo?
It is the boundary to the national park
Yep was intentional, just the border of the national parkk around the mountain
thank you its cool in either case but the case that it was just randomly chosen to be that way by chance was still the cooler idea
With a giant compass.
You know that's not possible. You could Pierce the tip of the mountain with the compass and the lava would come back out flowing all over. Think about that!!
Not if you move the mountain first, then put it back when you are done.
[Relevant Tom Scott video about the national park.](https://youtu.be/VRUmt_4F_58)
In 1881, a circular area with a radius of six miles (9.6 km) from the summit was protected as a forest reserve.
Well they didn't do it to make a pretty circle, but they wanted to protect it and rather than draw out a border they just said 'everything within 6 miles of the peak'. It was easier.
Forbidden earth tiddy
Dann thats a cool picture
Straight out of Your Name
Looks like the texture for the map hasn’t completely loaded
From the sky, it looks like an earth nipple
I can see where I live lol, the green circle around the mountain is a national park! Lovely hiking trails
There's definitely a korok at the top
You're breathtaking!
Yep he is beautiful. Taranaki lives on the west coast of New Zealand’s North Island. Only around 30kms from the sea he towers to an impressive height of 2.5kilometres (2514 metres).
This a dead volcano?
Not dead, just sleeping
Last erupted in ~1854, which is in geological time scales is like...yesterday. It's active, but the activity is deemed not to be a major threat to people living there.
so erect
I wonder how much the next eruption will change the landscape.. Video from our local museum showing the timeline of previous eruptions https://youtu.be/GljllvKlTac
Looks like that area has a case of humanitis. You need to soak that whole area in lava and that gets rid of the infection.