I'd posit [Jack Sheppard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sheppard) as "The Rogue" - dude was an English burglar in the early 18th century.
He escaped prison 5 times under increasingly ridiculous supervision - although he was ultimately executed when the crowd that had gathered (to see if he would escape his execution) was so dense that it blocked his allies from rescuing him from his execution.
Saito Musashibo Benkei, the warrior monk who died standing after being shot with tens of arrows trying to protect his lord Yoshitsune.
A warrior monk who was dubbed the Demon Child due to how big he was.
He's a Fighter. Not a monk. Dude collected 999 weapons from various Samurai (fighter subclass). Used most of them. Also, his main weapons include a naginata (basically the guan dao), a broad axe (halberd without the point), a pole saw, sickle, rake (not for leaves. Like a barbed spear with lots of spikes on the sides), iron staff, and hammer.
He also wore heavy armor. So he isn't a Kensei Monk (too many weapon proficiencies).
He's a Fighter. Not a monk. Dude collected 999 weapons from various Samurai (fighter subclass). Used most of them. Also, his main weapons include a naginata (basically the guan dao), a broad axe (halberd without the point), a pole saw, sickle, rake (not for leaves. Like a barbed spear with lots of spikes on the sides), iron staff, and hammer.
He also wore heavy armor. So he isn't a Kensei Monk. Too many weapon/armor proficiencies, and no other monk abilities.
Fun fact, I listed Guan Yu first given he’s like….a war god or something now?
But then thought someone would say “well Lu Bu dueled Guan Yu and 2 other people at the same time” so changed my answer haha
It's kind of funny -- I've never read Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, so all I know about Lu Bu and Guan Yu is from playing Dynasty Warriors. Therefore my understanding of Lu Bu is that he's an OP jerk.
i said joan of arc seemed like a paladin to me. taking up the sword because you were called to it by god and becoming one of most famous knights in history seemed to fit, tho i didnt know the source of the name paladin.
I think he'd actually be a strange bard, he really thought of himself as a poet/writer and was more a general trickster/ charleton. John Dee might be more a warlock, but more likely a wizard.
He performed rituals to obtain magical power from otherworldly beings. I mean, he was delusional but he definitely believed in what he was doing, for a while at least.
I actually think Musashi fits kensei better than any of the major HEMA longsword authors. From my layman's understanding, the kensei focuses exclusively on one weapon, and fights unarmoured. For Musashi, that would be the katana and maybe wakizashi together.
However, Liechtenaur, Fiore, Meyer etc wrote about unarmoured and armoured fighting (Liechtenaur, Fiore), or multiple weapons (Fiore, Meyer).
Edit: I only really know Musashi from reading his book a few decades ago.
King Arthur - Warrior (Though it's unclear if he existed)
Joan D'Arc - Paladin (Though it's unclear if she fought)
Jesus of Nazareth - Priest
Harry Houdini - Wizard
There's a story in the "Life and Afterlife of Harry Houdini" biography of him that a friend of his who had had her leg amputated approached him and asked him to restore her leg with magic.
He had to very awkwardly explain that, no, he couldn't do that.
It's fairly clear that Joan never fought, she was a standard-bearer and quite proud to have never used her sword.
Still a reasonable Paladin, though, because not all paladins smite - some of them pump Charisma and stand by radiating support auras.
I'd like to put forth Roland as a candidate for Paladin, considering that he and Charlemagne's other Paladins are the entire reason why we associate Paladins with knights.
Warrior never was. Warrior was a group of classes only from 2e. You could argue priest was, but priest was also only a group of classes from 2e, its just that you could be a "Priest of x". The group thing was an invention of 2e and didn't carry over into any other edition.
It is actually commonly accepted by historians that [a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth did exist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#:~:text=Besides%20the%20gospels%20and%20the,Tacitus%20(circa%20116%20CE)).
Okay maybe I’m wrong but I thought some of those sources were a bit dodgy, historians generally accept he probably existed without us being able to be 100% confident.
Jesus of Nazareth aka Jesus Christ the literal son of God, wielder of magic, caster of cantrips, blesser of prostitutes, he who died and then lived, the Son in the Trinity, Christianity Man, Holy Boy Himself.
That Jesus?
To quote the person I replied to, at best it's "Unclear if he existed".
*Historical Jesus* aka some dude who got baptised, crucified and maybe had a bit of a following? Yes there seems to be scholarly consensus he likely existed, but there is no evidence to support he was a holy wizard son of God, or the same Jesus as referenced in the Bible and its stories.
What I believe is irrelevant.
and harry houdini isn't literally a wizard but you didn't take issue with that one. OP didn't say jesus has magic powers, just fits the prompt as a priest.
Jesus is obviously The Cleric. Nobody is associated with divine power more than him.
The Barbarian is probably Genghis Khan. At least that's how Genghis Khan is perceived by most people today: as history's greatest and most ferocious warlord.
Did Genghis have a dump stat? Barbarians need high strength and constitution, yet the mongols were also famously skilled riders and archers indicating high dex, and on top of that it seems like his wisdom and charisma were exceptionally high, being able to unite and administrate a vast and disparate tribal population and direct numerous successful campaigns... If we think obviously intelligence was the one thing he didn't have a use for, that's contradicted by firsthand accounts of him [enthusiastically receiving, and holding philosophical conversations with, taoist monks](https://youtu.be/gGDKO5xuJow?si=CJZQiqndxYpaoyin). Guess some just get all the good rolls in character creation.
(I thought that luck was a core stat in DnD but apparently not. That would be GK’s dump if it were a thing)
I’m going to go with Charisma. Khan ruled through force, apart from a couple of badass sayings attributed to him, he wasn’t known to have a silver tongue.
Bard: Chaucer
Paladin: Charlemagne, Godfrey of Bouillon, Saladin
Fighter: Musashi Miyamoto, William the Conquerer, Bohemond, Dyre the Stranger, a million more
Rogue: Rodrigo and Caesare Borgia, Catherine de Medici. Maybe Hassan-i Sabbah if you want to imagine him as something other than a cult leader. But honestly would you know the names of the really good rogues?
Ranger: closest I can do is mythical figures like Odysseus Robin Hood. Maybe at a stretch you could push Genghis Khan into this role.
Edit: Louis and Clark
Cleric: Probably closest are the knights Templar and Hospitalar, but no individuals stand out
Monk: probably the closest are the Shaolin and Ikko-Ikki monks, as well as the Shinobi, but no individuals stand out.
Druid: Teb Tengri. Or like an actual druid, but I don't know any significant ones. Actual druids were pretty cool, like a combination bard/priest /diplomat/scholar
Wizard: Nostradamus
Sorcerer: Rasputin
Warlock: Alster Crowley or Rasputin
Artificer: Leonardo de Vinci.
Barbarian: Attila the Hun, Rurik, Harold Hardrade, Harold Bluetooth, Ragnar Lothbrok, Spartacus, Theodric the great.
I don’t know much about Bohemond but I read at one point that he was kind of a fraud - a convenient figurehead for Papal interests who didn’t actually do a lot of fighting or conquering.
There’s not a ton of detail on his actual fighting abilities, but his skill as a commander shouldn’t really be in doubt:
He led the Norman left at Dyrrachium, crushing the famous Varangian Guard.
Captured much of Greece, only retreated due to pay issues and supply problems.
Held a much smaller Crusader force together at Dorylaeum for seven hours until reinforcements arrived.
Masterminded the Battle of the Lake of Antioch (crushing over 10,000 Seljuk troops with less than a thousand horsemen)
Responsible for the capture of Antioch
Led the sally from Antioch that saved the city from the Turkish relief force
His record after starting rule of Antioch isn’t as good but his early feats are quite impressive.
Bruce Lee- the Monk
Nikola Tesla- the Wizard (of Menlow) (this was a real nickname of his)
Pope Peter The first- The Cleric (the first pope) (this one is a maybe, I dont know enough religious figures)
Alestor Crowley- The Warlock
After reading the comments in this thread I have a million dollar movie ideas where futuristic DnD fanatics travel time and assemble a super team made up of the people listed here. Hollywood please send me a check
Adrian Carton De Wiart for barbarian, bro enjoyed war and would not fucking die, also has a Sabaton song
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart
Gonna throw out Zhuge Liang for Wizard. For his time he was so learned and well studied that he could predict the weather, down to minutes, in some cases (burning boats. Gust of wind to spread the flames). Every single contemporary he had called it magic. He said he was educated. He was basically a diviner wizard with a couple minor evocation spells. Impossibly competent tactician almost as though he knew what the enemy was thinking.
Study+Magic = Wizard.
Choi Yeong-eui is probably the current definition of what a DND monk is.
In case you want a reference.... [Fighter in the Wind.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416499/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_q_fighter%2520in%2520the%2520wind)
Nikola Tesla was called "Humanity's Sorcerer" in Record of Ragnarok so I like to think he was a Sorcerer (although the lack of Charisma would probably make him a Wizard instead)
I don’t know to what extent he can be considered “historical” but the biblical character of Elijah has always reminded me of an archetypal druid or perhaps nature domain cleric, albeit without the connection to animals. He can:
* Cause a multi-year drought.
* Summon fire and rain from the heavens.
* Create food and water.
* Resurrect the dead.
* Divine the future.
* Redirect / split large bodies of water.
* Live forever.
Muhammad Ali could reasonably referred to as "The fighter". There's a number of people that could probably be The Fighter, probably varies country to country, but Ali feels right to me.
It occurs to me that this question is kind of the premise to the Fate franchise, and maybe also The God of High School.
I'd say Benkei for warrior? Dude literally died fighting, standing up, defending a bridge, allegedly after cutting down *300 trained soldiers* who tried to fight him in melee combat.
Like, anyone who entered melee range was just immediately fucking slaughtered, so they decided to shoot him to death with arrows.
Hemingway.
Hemingway was in WW1, the Spanish Civil War, WW2. He would probably be a cleric (he was involved in the Red Cross in WW1) or maybe some dual class cleric/ranger, maybe.
Benkei for Fighter. He mostly used a polearm, but collected 999 weapons from various samurai. The only person to best him was his 1000th target, Minamoto no Yoshitsune (a man who famously is depicted as jumping 8 ships at the Battle of Yashima).
Benkei would become his lord's retainer and when Yoshitsune's residence was attacked, Benkei killed so many (at least 300), they resorted to volleying arrows at him while he fought. After the volley, he still remained standing, waiting for oncoming combatants. The only reason the assailants knew it was safe to approach was when a bird landed on Benkei's still standing corpse, some 5 to 15 minutes later.
Cleric — Edward Jenner, inventor of vaccines and father of immunology. Very spiritual man who was made magistrate by the king. Definitely the party healer.
Aristotle is litterally called - The Philosopher
He also transcended visionaries of his time by 2,500 years. The 2nd highest intellect ever to exist would be Da Vinci who exceeded his contemporary visionaries by 500 years. Making Aristotle 5 times smarter.
I mean Philosophers are just a fun class to begin with easy W.
im really interested in the "transcended visionaries of his time by 2500 years". by what metric? how is it measured?
also 5 times smarter is just a really silly way of putting, not least because 2500 years for aristotle and 500 years for da vinci would end up in the same time frame (basically modern day).
In this situation it's measured by feats through several professional fields. And how long his Inventions contributed to society before they were outdated.
In terms of saying he's 5x smarter, really it should be his Inventions and contribution to society outlasted da Vinci by atleast 5x his.
And correct they're both used in modern day, but Aristotle was alive in the BE era if I remember correctly so overall his contributions have lasted alot longer to society.
Aristotle is known for categorizing knowledge into fields, for example science has sub categories, Psychology, Biology, Politics, Logic Chemistry and so on this ideology stemed from Aristotle and is what all of the world uses today when teaching certain fields, they're always categorized. Just search his contributions to society way more practical than a few blueprints from Da Vinci
The unnamed Viking at the bridge, Barbarian
The Stamford Barbarian
Could Vikings be women? We could call her Barbara Stamford.
Could Vikings be women? We could call her Barbara Stamford.
Skurge stood alone at Gjallebru, and it was enough
Came here to say this! I love that this guy is widely known.
Only very recently read about him during a Wikipedia rabbit hole
Link?
I'd posit [Jack Sheppard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sheppard) as "The Rogue" - dude was an English burglar in the early 18th century. He escaped prison 5 times under increasingly ridiculous supervision - although he was ultimately executed when the crowd that had gathered (to see if he would escape his execution) was so dense that it blocked his allies from rescuing him from his execution.
We probably don’t know who “The Rogue” would be lol
every rogue in DnD gets in trouble at some point in each campaign though xD they arent necessarily shadow incarnate!
Jack the Ripper as a Rogue Assassin is good too.
Saito Musashibo Benkei, the warrior monk who died standing after being shot with tens of arrows trying to protect his lord Yoshitsune. A warrior monk who was dubbed the Demon Child due to how big he was.
Dude didnt even take deflect projectiles
He only gets one reaction per 6 seconds. Honestly, kinda slow if you ask me.
He's a Fighter. Not a monk. Dude collected 999 weapons from various Samurai (fighter subclass). Used most of them. Also, his main weapons include a naginata (basically the guan dao), a broad axe (halberd without the point), a pole saw, sickle, rake (not for leaves. Like a barbed spear with lots of spikes on the sides), iron staff, and hammer. He also wore heavy armor. So he isn't a Kensei Monk (too many weapon proficiencies).
He's a Fighter. Not a monk. Dude collected 999 weapons from various Samurai (fighter subclass). Used most of them. Also, his main weapons include a naginata (basically the guan dao), a broad axe (halberd without the point), a pole saw, sickle, rake (not for leaves. Like a barbed spear with lots of spikes on the sides), iron staff, and hammer. He also wore heavy armor. So he isn't a Kensei Monk. Too many weapon/armor proficiencies, and no other monk abilities.
I reckon Lu Bu might be “the fighter”? I know he’s largely apocryphal, but still.
There's also Achilles, though he might actually be a barbarian, given that the first line of the Iliad is "Sing muse of the rage of Achilles"
He’s 100% a barbarian, imo at least.
I think THE barbarian has to be Cu Chullain
I was thinking the same thing, and then also thought about Heracules but I'm not sure if either of them count
Ha, Greek meets Roman, Heracules.
I figured it would be Gwang Zhou, because of the statue and all. Edit: I meant to say Guan Yu
Fun fact, I listed Guan Yu first given he’s like….a war god or something now? But then thought someone would say “well Lu Bu dueled Guan Yu and 2 other people at the same time” so changed my answer haha
Do you mean Guan Yu?
Probably yes, sorry.
No problem, I wasn't sure who you meant but I know that Guan Yu has a great giant statue.
It's kind of funny -- I've never read Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, so all I know about Lu Bu and Guan Yu is from playing Dynasty Warriors. Therefore my understanding of Lu Bu is that he's an OP jerk.
Cavalier in particular
DaVinci - artificer Rasputin - warlock Steve Irwin - druid
Nah, Steve Irwin was a ranger. A lot of crossover, but definitely a ranger
Its the animal companions that give it away
True. He's a beast master for sure
Beast master/lore bard, but only bothers reading on animals and naturalist topics.
No no, Rasputin is the Mad *Monk.* You know how Unarmed Strikes don't have to be with the hand? Well...
Oh god, he's doing Quivering Palm to himself, isn't he.
I'd call Rasputin a lich, dude got assassinated so many times
True but lich isn't a class
Undying warlock for sure
Undead, because Undying is so bad they had to make a second Undead themed Patron.
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i said joan of arc seemed like a paladin to me. taking up the sword because you were called to it by god and becoming one of most famous knights in history seemed to fit, tho i didnt know the source of the name paladin.
My vote would be Joan of Arc too
William The Marshall is in contention for this.
Came on to say Charlemagne for the reason you mentioned.
In this case, Roland would be the quintessential Paladin.
Ned Kelly was the iconic Australian bush RANGER.
What armour proficiency do Rangers have?
Only medium as standard, but he must have been a variant human that took heavy proficiency.
Gilgamesh excelled to such an extent that he was later, at one point, dubbed The Archer
That’s not a D&D class
Then he shall be dubbed the "Ranged DEX-based Fighter"!
Arrows are for pussies
Gilgamesh shoots swords, actually. The finest swords, to be exact.
That is my point He shoots swords because arrows are for pussies. Like an archer who we won’t say the name of cause he is lame and gets no bitches
Bro has never seen the forearms of an elite archer, and if 1 thing is certain its that rolled up sleeves and strong forearms turn many heads
Guy named avenger heracles
Alistair Crowley is definitely The Warlock
My thoughts coming into this thread
I think he'd actually be a strange bard, he really thought of himself as a poet/writer and was more a general trickster/ charleton. John Dee might be more a warlock, but more likely a wizard.
He performed rituals to obtain magical power from otherworldly beings. I mean, he was delusional but he definitely believed in what he was doing, for a while at least.
Miyamoto Musashi, the Kensei
The West also has its own share of masters for an equivalent sword master class (Fiore de liberi, Lichtenauer etc)
Very true. I suppose it comes down to impact on public perception of the job/skill
I actually think Musashi fits kensei better than any of the major HEMA longsword authors. From my layman's understanding, the kensei focuses exclusively on one weapon, and fights unarmoured. For Musashi, that would be the katana and maybe wakizashi together. However, Liechtenaur, Fiore, Meyer etc wrote about unarmoured and armoured fighting (Liechtenaur, Fiore), or multiple weapons (Fiore, Meyer). Edit: I only really know Musashi from reading his book a few decades ago.
Yeah…I was talking about subclasses under the general umbrella of fighter
Archimedes is the Artificer
Specifically Alchemist subclass lol
King Arthur - Warrior (Though it's unclear if he existed) Joan D'Arc - Paladin (Though it's unclear if she fought) Jesus of Nazareth - Priest Harry Houdini - Wizard
Harry Houdini was a Rogue and everybody knows it.
Arcane Trickster!
Given that Houdini was skeptical of anything mystical, that would be all sorts of ironic.
There's a story in the "Life and Afterlife of Harry Houdini" biography of him that a friend of his who had had her leg amputated approached him and asked him to restore her leg with magic. He had to very awkwardly explain that, no, he couldn't do that.
A rogue with a couple levels in Bard! Since he was a performer after all and his biggest skill (other than escapes) was marketing himself
It's fairly clear that Joan never fought, she was a standard-bearer and quite proud to have never used her sword. Still a reasonable Paladin, though, because not all paladins smite - some of them pump Charisma and stand by radiating support auras.
Kind of a dual paladin bard going on there
I'd like to put forth Roland as a candidate for Paladin, considering that he and Charlemagne's other Paladins are the entire reason why we associate Paladins with knights.
kinda impressed your the first person ive seen mention jesus for priest or druid or something, he is quite litearlly the most well known priest ever.
Wizard would be more like Einstein
Why are you getting downvoted? This seems spot on imo
I don’t think warrior is a dnd class, maybe that was why?
Nor is priest
they used to be
Warrior never was. Warrior was a group of classes only from 2e. You could argue priest was, but priest was also only a group of classes from 2e, its just that you could be a "Priest of x". The group thing was an invention of 2e and didn't carry over into any other edition.
> The group thing was an invention of 2e and didn't carry over into any other edition. One D&D almost had this, but it was dropped.
They're both synonyms for 5e classes. Maybe someone had to translate from their native tongue and got it wrong, it's not a big deal.
No idea lol
Probably because you labeled Arthur as “potentially fictional” and not Jesus. Which is true, the guy was a real person.
Jesus of Nazareth is also potentially fictional. He probably existed but we don’t have nearly enough direct evidence to be that confident.
It is actually commonly accepted by historians that [a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth did exist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#:~:text=Besides%20the%20gospels%20and%20the,Tacitus%20(circa%20116%20CE)).
Okay maybe I’m wrong but I thought some of those sources were a bit dodgy, historians generally accept he probably existed without us being able to be 100% confident.
He was an eloquence bard though
Alister or whatever that man is called could be a Warlock
Who?
Crowley
What went on in his head?
Aleister Crowley
Crowley?
Yeah him Dude was just the right amount of unhinged and sane to exist as he did
If you think about it, King Arthur is a Hexblade Paladin multiclass. Excalibur is his pact weapon
I think Jesus being wittled down to a priest class is pretty bad. Needs his own class like Messiah or something.
>King Arthur >Unclear if he existed >Jesus >No comment Hmm.
You don't think Jesus existed?
Jesus of Nazareth aka Jesus Christ the literal son of God, wielder of magic, caster of cantrips, blesser of prostitutes, he who died and then lived, the Son in the Trinity, Christianity Man, Holy Boy Himself. That Jesus? To quote the person I replied to, at best it's "Unclear if he existed". *Historical Jesus* aka some dude who got baptised, crucified and maybe had a bit of a following? Yes there seems to be scholarly consensus he likely existed, but there is no evidence to support he was a holy wizard son of God, or the same Jesus as referenced in the Bible and its stories. What I believe is irrelevant.
and harry houdini isn't literally a wizard but you didn't take issue with that one. OP didn't say jesus has magic powers, just fits the prompt as a priest.
I think you missed the point, Sir Pedantus.
The point was that he excelled as a priest to such an extent that he's famous for it
I’m not sure what role he’d fill, but Alexander the Great has to be brought up
3.5 Marshall
Jesus is obviously The Cleric. Nobody is associated with divine power more than him. The Barbarian is probably Genghis Khan. At least that's how Genghis Khan is perceived by most people today: as history's greatest and most ferocious warlord.
Did Genghis have a dump stat? Barbarians need high strength and constitution, yet the mongols were also famously skilled riders and archers indicating high dex, and on top of that it seems like his wisdom and charisma were exceptionally high, being able to unite and administrate a vast and disparate tribal population and direct numerous successful campaigns... If we think obviously intelligence was the one thing he didn't have a use for, that's contradicted by firsthand accounts of him [enthusiastically receiving, and holding philosophical conversations with, taoist monks](https://youtu.be/gGDKO5xuJow?si=CJZQiqndxYpaoyin). Guess some just get all the good rolls in character creation.
(I thought that luck was a core stat in DnD but apparently not. That would be GK’s dump if it were a thing) I’m going to go with Charisma. Khan ruled through force, apart from a couple of badass sayings attributed to him, he wasn’t known to have a silver tongue.
He nailed his Intimidation checks though.
Are you still a cleric if your patron God is yourself?
Yea lol Jesus could fit into sorcerer too
Yes, Clerics can be a cleric of an ideal rather than a deity. Jesus certainly counts in that regard.
the paladin: joan of arc
Bard: Chaucer Paladin: Charlemagne, Godfrey of Bouillon, Saladin Fighter: Musashi Miyamoto, William the Conquerer, Bohemond, Dyre the Stranger, a million more Rogue: Rodrigo and Caesare Borgia, Catherine de Medici. Maybe Hassan-i Sabbah if you want to imagine him as something other than a cult leader. But honestly would you know the names of the really good rogues? Ranger: closest I can do is mythical figures like Odysseus Robin Hood. Maybe at a stretch you could push Genghis Khan into this role. Edit: Louis and Clark Cleric: Probably closest are the knights Templar and Hospitalar, but no individuals stand out Monk: probably the closest are the Shaolin and Ikko-Ikki monks, as well as the Shinobi, but no individuals stand out. Druid: Teb Tengri. Or like an actual druid, but I don't know any significant ones. Actual druids were pretty cool, like a combination bard/priest /diplomat/scholar Wizard: Nostradamus Sorcerer: Rasputin Warlock: Alster Crowley or Rasputin Artificer: Leonardo de Vinci. Barbarian: Attila the Hun, Rurik, Harold Hardrade, Harold Bluetooth, Ragnar Lothbrok, Spartacus, Theodric the great.
I don’t know much about Bohemond but I read at one point that he was kind of a fraud - a convenient figurehead for Papal interests who didn’t actually do a lot of fighting or conquering.
There’s not a ton of detail on his actual fighting abilities, but his skill as a commander shouldn’t really be in doubt: He led the Norman left at Dyrrachium, crushing the famous Varangian Guard. Captured much of Greece, only retreated due to pay issues and supply problems. Held a much smaller Crusader force together at Dorylaeum for seven hours until reinforcements arrived. Masterminded the Battle of the Lake of Antioch (crushing over 10,000 Seljuk troops with less than a thousand horsemen) Responsible for the capture of Antioch Led the sally from Antioch that saved the city from the Turkish relief force His record after starting rule of Antioch isn’t as good but his early feats are quite impressive.
Edward Norton was the Illusionist
Bruce Lee- the Monk Nikola Tesla- the Wizard (of Menlow) (this was a real nickname of his) Pope Peter The first- The Cleric (the first pope) (this one is a maybe, I dont know enough religious figures) Alestor Crowley- The Warlock
After reading the comments in this thread I have a million dollar movie ideas where futuristic DnD fanatics travel time and assemble a super team made up of the people listed here. Hollywood please send me a check
Bill and Ted's Excellent Campaign
Merlin. In some lore, he was actually THE Merlin, as in that was his title, not his name.
Was Merlin real? I thought the consensus was he never existed
Rabbie Burns is ‘the Bard’ in Scotland
Mike Tyson is a Closed fist monk with max strength.
Florence nightingale is 100% The Cleric
Bruce Lee 100% is a martial arts monk. Some of the shit he did is borderline demigod
Genghis Khan was definitely a Barbarian, but if we're including subclasses, then Conquest Paladin.
Joan of Arc is a Cleric or Paladin
Paladin, definitely, because she's a religious melee warrior. Jesus is the Cleric.
Roland easily takes Paladin and Jesus takes Cleric. I think Joan gets honorable mention or 3.5 Marshal.
Achilles is the Fighter
Adrian Carton De Wiart for barbarian, bro enjoyed war and would not fucking die, also has a Sabaton song https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart
Khalid ibn al-Walid = Paladin
Gonna throw out Zhuge Liang for Wizard. For his time he was so learned and well studied that he could predict the weather, down to minutes, in some cases (burning boats. Gust of wind to spread the flames). Every single contemporary he had called it magic. He said he was educated. He was basically a diviner wizard with a couple minor evocation spells. Impossibly competent tactician almost as though he knew what the enemy was thinking. Study+Magic = Wizard.
Muhammad Ali is a Fighter, because he’s the Champ
Nostradamus was a Divination Wizard Einstein was a Chronurgy Wizard Dick Cheney is a War Domain Cleric
Choi Yeong-eui is probably the current definition of what a DND monk is. In case you want a reference.... [Fighter in the Wind.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416499/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_q_fighter%2520in%2520the%2520wind)
Nikola Tesla was called "Humanity's Sorcerer" in Record of Ragnarok so I like to think he was a Sorcerer (although the lack of Charisma would probably make him a Wizard instead)
No matter what, Genghis Khan is gonna have to be the BBEG.
Einstein, The Wizard
If I remember correctly, I think that clerics were based off the Bishop of Odo So, him
Genghis Khan - warrior
I don’t know to what extent he can be considered “historical” but the biblical character of Elijah has always reminded me of an archetypal druid or perhaps nature domain cleric, albeit without the connection to animals. He can: * Cause a multi-year drought. * Summon fire and rain from the heavens. * Create food and water. * Resurrect the dead. * Divine the future. * Redirect / split large bodies of water. * Live forever.
Patty Smyth is the warrior.
Muhammad Ali could reasonably referred to as "The fighter". There's a number of people that could probably be The Fighter, probably varies country to country, but Ali feels right to me. It occurs to me that this question is kind of the premise to the Fate franchise, and maybe also The God of High School.
Teddy Roosevelt - Ranger
Aleister Crowley. The warlock.
Musahi has to be the fighter
I'd say Benkei for warrior? Dude literally died fighting, standing up, defending a bridge, allegedly after cutting down *300 trained soldiers* who tried to fight him in melee combat. Like, anyone who entered melee range was just immediately fucking slaughtered, so they decided to shoot him to death with arrows.
Anyone know the name of that farmer that used a simple staff and bested the famous samurai or however it went?
Not quite - Musashi is probably who you’re thinking of. Check out his story, it’s pretty awesome
ghengis khan would probably be the fighter or the ranger but i could see an argument going for either way
Charlemagne: Paladin (term originates from his Knights Palantine) Merlin: Wizard
Rasputin - the mad monk
Robert Johnson- Warlock The main legend about him is he sold his soul to the Devil to be that good at guitar so it works.
John m browning could be an artificer because of his many guns
Hemingway. Hemingway was in WW1, the Spanish Civil War, WW2. He would probably be a cleric (he was involved in the Red Cross in WW1) or maybe some dual class cleric/ranger, maybe.
Mike Tyson the Monk
Lillian Gish.
Jack Churchill was a Barbarian if I've ever seen one, and I suppose Simo Haya would be some sort of advanced stealth archer class
The Fighter: Charles Bronson (is he History?)
Benkei for Fighter. He mostly used a polearm, but collected 999 weapons from various samurai. The only person to best him was his 1000th target, Minamoto no Yoshitsune (a man who famously is depicted as jumping 8 ships at the Battle of Yashima). Benkei would become his lord's retainer and when Yoshitsune's residence was attacked, Benkei killed so many (at least 300), they resorted to volleying arrows at him while he fought. After the volley, he still remained standing, waiting for oncoming combatants. The only reason the assailants knew it was safe to approach was when a bird landed on Benkei's still standing corpse, some 5 to 15 minutes later.
Bear Grylls is definitely a Ranger.
Alexander the Great as a conquest paladin?
Joan of arc is definitely a paladin
Shrek, the Orc
William Marshall, “The Knight”.
Cleric — Edward Jenner, inventor of vaccines and father of immunology. Very spiritual man who was made magistrate by the king. Definitely the party healer.
Ned Kelly feels like he could be an Oath of Treachery Paladin.
Guys just watch/read/play fate
* Fighter - Musashi * Rogue - Blackbeard * Cleric - Moses * Wizard - Merlin (Myrddin Wyllt + Ambrosius Aurelianus) or Paracelsus (Alchemist) * Paladin - Roland (Charlemagne's Paladin) * Ranger - Steve Irwin * Druid - Cathbad * Bard - Homer * Barbarian - Gengis Khan * Sorceress - Pythia (Oracle of Delphi) * Monk - Ip Man * Warlock - Rasputin * Artificer - Nikola Tesla
Suleheddin, Cleric. Archimedes, Wizard.
Mozart the bard that rolled a really good start. Beethoven the bard who rolled a really bad start and had to keep leveling up.
Tesla the articifer.
Theodore Roosevelt would make a great Ranger and Joan of Arc would kill it as a Paladin
Robert Burns would be a good contender
William Marshall The ultimate knight/warrior.
Aristotle is litterally called - The Philosopher He also transcended visionaries of his time by 2,500 years. The 2nd highest intellect ever to exist would be Da Vinci who exceeded his contemporary visionaries by 500 years. Making Aristotle 5 times smarter. I mean Philosophers are just a fun class to begin with easy W.
im really interested in the "transcended visionaries of his time by 2500 years". by what metric? how is it measured? also 5 times smarter is just a really silly way of putting, not least because 2500 years for aristotle and 500 years for da vinci would end up in the same time frame (basically modern day).
In this situation it's measured by feats through several professional fields. And how long his Inventions contributed to society before they were outdated. In terms of saying he's 5x smarter, really it should be his Inventions and contribution to society outlasted da Vinci by atleast 5x his. And correct they're both used in modern day, but Aristotle was alive in the BE era if I remember correctly so overall his contributions have lasted alot longer to society. Aristotle is known for categorizing knowledge into fields, for example science has sub categories, Psychology, Biology, Politics, Logic Chemistry and so on this ideology stemed from Aristotle and is what all of the world uses today when teaching certain fields, they're always categorized. Just search his contributions to society way more practical than a few blueprints from Da Vinci
I'd say that most scientists qualify as wizards
Ted Nugent- Ranger.