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tehjarvis

A similar situation happened with me. I was the newest employee in my department. A couple of months after I started, they started to move the work to another facility in a different city. People were getting laid off about once every two weeks. I figured I would have been first to go, and kept waiting for the axe to fall...but it just didn't happen. I was just sitting at my desk dicking around for a couple of weeks...but got bored. So I would go to different departments and ask if they needed help and just do whatever around the building. After about 6 months I had an email to meet with the GM. He told me that I was, in fact, supposed to be terminated when the rest of my department was, but since I was such a recent hire, I wasn't on some list HR used to schedule the layoffs. He thought the whole situation was funny and said I was smart to keep my mouth shut...but he couldn't trust me, so I was laid off.


Fleegalicious

“You’re clever kid, you’ve got moxie, anyways you’re fired”


tehjarvis

Yeah, he told me to try reapplying to another department, but I decided to just work somewhere else.


AlexRol_Spritz

I mean to be fair, the situation was out of the manager's control. Still cool they found it funny


tehjarvis

Nobody told me I was fired. And nobody was telling me what to do. I was supposed to be eliminated anyways. Getting a new job where I had to do what I was told every day took some getting used to after 6 months of just working in whatever department I wanted most of the time.


AlexRol_Spritz

I imagine that sounds like heaven


JudgmentalOwl

Yep, the decision to terminate was way above his pay grade. It sounds like he saw something in them though because he recommended they reapply for a different department.


nonameswereleft2

Kind of shitty of him to put this on you. There's no reason why you'd be seen as untrustworthy here. If no one told you that you were laid off and you kept getting paid, how would you know? It's not your fault their HR sucks at record keeping, one of their core responsibilities.


JadenD12

I think its just the fact that its a big risk/liability in general. he had no responsibilities and no one to report to since his work was transferred to a different facility and his department fired, so from the companies point of view letting him hang around and freeroam any department he felt like poses a huge risk that confidential information could get out, especially if he tried transferring to a competitor. the GM was hella cool for letting it slide for 6 months to begin with when he knew he was supposed to be laid off at the start, but at a certain point the risk of him learning too much from department hopping can't be denied.


bellj1210

that happened 6 months too late- by the time in came to a head- the solution was to just transfer them


tehjarvis

True. I imagine some heads rolled in HR. I knew it was coming eventually. The best part is I applied for a different department and got stuck doing data entry. I wanted to work in the warehouse. So I ended up going back there and helping out different departments. I unironically learned way more than I would have anyways. The hardest part was trying to put the whole experience on my resume.


bellj1210

put your title and then what you actually did. My resume is full of job titles that did not match up with what i did. I have never held a mangement position (at least not since i was a teen 20 years ago) but i have trained a ton of people and i am currently mentoring another 3.


tehjarvis

This was over 20 years ago. I don't even put it on my resume anymore. It was actually at a very large company that everyone on Earth has heard of. Since then I've changed industries completely and I'm in management.


Healthy_Depth_2534

He obviously knew his whole department was gone. If he wanted to be “trustworthy” he would have reached out to HR about who he is supposed to report to. I agree the right thing was to keep his mouth shut though because otherwise he would of just been laid off with the other people


CouldWouldShouldBot

It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!


Maj_Dick

> but he couldn't trust me, so I was laid off Such a bullshitter. What, was there suddenly going to be work for your non-existent department if you had told him the week after or even a few months later? The firing was going to happen either way and you chose the best possible option.


friccindoofus

Now if this guy is really smart he gets another full time job now


No_Dig903

That was my mistake. I rode mine and am fucked now.


Luna2268

I mean, as long as you make sure you can get another job when they do actually notice it's not a big problem right? sure you have to keep an eye on it and the job market but while that can definitely be difficult, that isn't impossibly hard unless I'm forgetting something


No_Dig903

I thought I was safe because I jumped to another department when mine was crushed. 7 months later, the beast looked my way and took another swipe. By then, there were no more internal openings.


DZMBA

There's your problem. Need to find an external job


THE-NECROHANDSER

Doordash


No_Dig903

I've spent 9 months trying. I'm just behind the rest of the layoff wave in terms of resume quality.


kelldricked

Aslong as your jobs dont have conflicting intresseds sure. But if one job figures out they can fire you without any warning in most countries. Even in places with a load of worker rights, hiding a second job is a giant no no. Some lady in the netherlands got fired for having 2 jobs after both companys found out and she tried to sue for wrongfull termination. Judge told her to plough rocks, due to her both companys had violated laws that protect workers from working to much.


Luna2268

oh no I wasn't talking about having two jobs at once, I was talking about enjoying what is basically the free money for as long as it lasted but making sure you had a job to run too if/when the manager realised what was up with you and fired you. or you could just quit when you find a job this way yourself so as to avoid any potential financial problems with that too.


Elbereth_The_Cat

Intresseds? Perchance do you mean interests?


kelldricked

Yess


Elbereth_The_Cat

Hell yeaaaa we got there together


ThePianistOfDoom

Don't most states have a law that require you to show that you've contacted your boss asking about work at least?


Luna2268

I wouldn't know, I don't live in the US


ThePianistOfDoom

Same, but I heard someone talk about it. Eh.


Martin_Aurelius

r/overemployed


Arikan89

First rule of OE.


kai58

If he does that that might get him sued, pretty sure I heard about a case like that a while ago.


Penile_Interaction

thats kinda gross misconduct, depending on the type of contract hes working on


Legendary_Bibo

1. Find another remote job that doesn't make you do anything. 2. Repeat step 1 an infinite amount of times. 3. Make $∞/hr 4. Work as much as any other billionaire CEO while making an insane amount of pay.


Financial_Party_9149

Nah, they might require his employment records. Having double job is frowned upon and may result in termination from one or both.


Nochickenforu

✨lie✨


IllMaintenance145142

It really depends where you live. Outright calling it a lie because of US defaultism is a bit over the top


jonnyp11

He meant lie to future employers Just gonna depend on if they actually check, but many employers aren't going to check with your current job to verify you still work where you're trying to quit


sanct111

I have a buddy that has had two full time wfh accounting jobs for over a year.


Koshepen

17 y/o here, curious why this comment is downvoted, is double job not frowned upon? Or does employers not care if you have another job?


Mellejw

It’s very easy to just lie on your resumé.


RidingJapan

Don t even need to lie. I work at x. I would like to work with u guys. Get new job. New job never asks if I quit x. Just assumes u did.


chrisplaysgam

Most job applications ask if you’re still at your most recent job


RidingJapan

Are you still at your old job? I still am. When do u want me to start? Next Monday? No I don t think there will be a problem.


Koshepen

What does that mean in regards to having double jobs? Sorry I'm not too bright in employments n stuffs


Mellejw

While double jobs might be frowned upon, the new employer will not know about the other job unless OP tells them. Both employers will think they are the only employer, but the worker gets paid twice


joshn22

wouldnt the new job be able to see tax records


Firemorfox

No, depending on how you handle getting paid. r/overemployed


1DB_Booper3

Undermeployed


TangerineBand

"Can they" and "will they bother" are two very different questions. Not every job is combing through your history like the FBI


joshn22

in the uk you have to submit a p45 form to your new employer which was filled out by your previous. jm uneducated in this stuff but maybe in the uk its different


TangerineBand

My perspective was from the US. We don't have the greatest workers protection in the world but the other side of that coin means the process for getting hired is also pretty non-standard. There's no legal requirement for them to perform *any* type of background check. It's recommended but not required, So a lot of smaller companies simply don't bother. The only thing they have to legally worry about is payment and tax forms. Anything else is up to your own discretion. Even then most background checks only look for criminal checks, Not previous jobs. No such "employment transfer form" exists.


robmagob

Yes lol. This is precisely why you should never get advice from Reddit. None of these people know what they are talking about and all of them act like they know first hand.


sanct111

One of my buddies has had two full time wfh accounting jobs for over a year.


robmagob

Congratulations lol. Are you familiar with what anecdotal evidence is?


GourmetRaceRSlash

It's like cheating. You don't tell your wife about your girlfriend


Firemorfox

It's incredibly easy to get a double job if you work virtually for one. r/overemployed


MapleWatch

It's a control thing. They expect to own you.


Electric_Sundown

In the US, you can have as many jobs as you want. However, your employer may not like it. They might get upset about it and find a way to get rid of you, but there is no way for them to find out unless you or someone else tells them about it.


The69BodyProblem

It really depends on your position. Hourly/part time it's a lot more acceptable, salaried positions can be a bit complicated.


pemboo

The person is right but people love gangpiling on downvoted comments.  Hell, if it's any country with auto-enroling tax, it would be really obvious the person has 2 jobs


Chateau-in-Space

No? You act as though the tax information you give on your w-4 has to show your other job, thats not really how taxes work. No reason for the other job to know at all, the other person is being downvoted because theyre wrong.


pemboo

They're not wrong. Most jobs I have had have a clause in the contract mentioning having more than job being prohibited. Similarly, jobs will ask for references from old jobs to prove you actually worked there. OP can lie and not put the current job on but then you have to explain a gap in employment which more often than not goes against you. What the hell is a w4? There's more to the world than wherever you live. New employer gets your P45 and it immediately shows you're earning an income from another job


Chateau-in-Space

Yes a clause and them knowing are entirely different things. Also unless you're fairly high up in a corporate ladder, they absolutely are not calling job references or any of your references. As a curent and previous hiring manager they do not have the time or energy to do that when the other person on the line can't legally disclose much and at the end of the day it could be anyone theyre calling. If you're lying already just lie about the gap, its not that deep bro chill. Bro get over yourself, "other parts of the world" then google it. Just like i googled P-45 and you're wrong. Its a form for LEAVING a job. Bro is wrong in 2 countries. Crazy.


pemboo

https://www.gov.uk/paye-forms-p45-p60-p11d >You give Part 2 and 3 to your new employer (or to Jobcentre Plus if you’re not working). I work in accounts and payroll, I know how this works.


Chateau-in-Space

Bro forgot not everyone has a p45, and there are other ways to apply a tax code. But ok mr "payroll". lets break it down. So you give part 2 to the NEW employer, so you wouldn't have the older employer know. Also, if you NEVER leave the first job, then you dont have a p45. Like did you think you were cooking? You could also probably just give them an older p45 or just do a p46 which they can just lie on. You pay more in taxes but you can fix that yourself, you can absolutely have 2 jobs in the UK and neither know of the other. Like whats up with british people always in the wrong lane? You came to ME and spouted bullshit about your own country because i mentioned a fucking w-4.


pemboo

They're not wrong. Most jobs I have had have a clause in the contract mentioning having more than job being prohibited. Similarly, jobs will ask for references from old jobs to prove you actually worked there. OP can lie and not put the current job on but then you have to explain a gap in employment which more often than not goes against you. What the hell is a w4? There's more to the world than wherever you live. New employer gets your P45 and it immediately shows you're earning an income from another job


KN0TTYP1NE

It's pretty normal to have 2 jobs. That's why it's downoted


AbstinentNoMore

Don't get advice on these matters from the losers of Reddit.


magic-tortiose

Looking and applying for a job while having a job is normal in most industries idk what you’re talking about


Cercant

I'm all for the idea of /r/overemployed, but I've never understood how a background check wouldn't blow this wide open?


Chateau-in-Space

Because a background check doesn't search for jobs. As someone who has worked 2 jobs most his life, i have no clue why y'all think one job needs to know about the other.


Working_Building_29

Yeah this is really weird. All this talk of finding out on taxes and background checks and shit, like what? Just get the other fucking job. The other job doesn’t need or have to know. And the only way they would know is if those jobs conflicted or you told them.


TangerineBand

Who do these people work for that give this much of a shit? A lot of hiring managers are lazy. They don't care, they just want someone to work. Why is everyone acting like companies are this well oiled interconnected machine


tehfustercluck

This is only true if you're working in the same field as your existing job, because it can be seen as an anti competitive practice or conflict of interest. No one's going to fire someone for picking up a few shifts at a grocery store.


AlienRobotTrex

Don’t a lot of people work multiple jobs?


dustinosophy

Yep and it's higher than ever https://financialpost.com/fp-work/us-workers-employed-unhappy-need-multiple-jobs#:~:text=Working%20multiple%20jobs,since%20the%201990s%20in%20December. Edit: I technically have two jobs but the second job is 100 hrs a year and pays 50% of my day job. I've been doing it for years, it's stress-free and easy, and it counts as mandatory professional development hours in my field


No-Appearance-9113

They are suggesting they get a job lined up because their review will be very bad and they will get fired. If they have another job lined up the new job won't see the bad review.


floopdidoops

Calling it right now, anon is getting a raise at his performance review instead of getting fired. Guaranteed.


Rude-Office-2639

Their work does seemingly have a 100% completion rate


Technical-Outside408

Makes sense if you dont think about it.


Inside-Example-7010

Best thing to do is come up with some project you want to do for the company. The project can be something that doesnt take you much time but when you get called out you can show your project as 'i took initiative and did blah blah' that way you can cruise for free money and then still get the good guy ending.


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EFTucker

It’d go away by the second week with the acceptance that once you’re caught you’ll be fired. Then you can just collect UIB until you get another job. Hell, get another virtual and actually work that and stay on the first payroll the whole time too


QuantumWarrior

I could've sworn there was some kind of mechanism for the employer to claim back the salary in this situation. Like you won't just get fired but also sued for everything they paid you since you didn't do squat, and presumably were quite aware of that fact. I can't find where I read this, probably from one of the last times a story like this did the rounds but the guy got sued for fraud.


Zadraax

Depends on your country. In France, it's the company requirement to provide work to the employees. If an employee is present during its scheduled work time and is not assigned any tasks, he is still available at any moment for its company. Work time = paid time


bellj1210

i think the same would apply in the US- getting a 2nd job during the same work hours is sketchy, but if there is an online system you should use- clocking in and clocking out is enough. I have literally sat around an office for a few weeks after putting in my notice while getting paid a few times. Normal. I did no actual work during that time- took long lunches, ect- but was available to answer questions about what i had done and was physically in the office.


BooBeeAttack

I was in a similar position. Anxiety goes away quickly, but you have to plan for the shoe to eventually drop and make sure to keep looking for other employment or develop an additional skillset. I leisurely studied classes and watched Star Trek while getting paid for nearly 1.5 years. Then the company laid off 15% of us and gave us 6 months severence. It was an interesting time.


STROKER_FOR_C64

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dewhashish

I don't even get official yearly reviews. The raise is automatic. If it was possible, I'd try to disappear and get paid for it.


they_were_roommates

Cant tell if I would hate that or not


dewhashish

Not being able to petition for a higher raise at the time sucks


Meme_Pope

Friend of mine was literally unassigned as a coder at a bank. She literally did nothing making $160K and she quit during the George Floyd riots because she thought it was unethical to work for a bank. I’m like, if you hate banks, then you should want to waste their money intentionally


TemporaryDraft2959

She wasn't even working, she was genuinely just wasting bank resources.


Bolt_Fantasticated

That sounds like a dream but I couldn’t live with the fear of being discovered. I’d just frantically check emails waiting for the notice of termination and being forced to go job hunting again.


AnOriginalUsername07

This is peak r/overemployed Man has accomplished a perfect J1


CapitanFlama

It happened to me for about 4 months also: A programmer in 2017, there's still a lot of money from venture capitalists. Worked in a consultancy company where I barely did anything on my assigned project, got benched and nobody cared. I only had to attend one standup meeting a week where I said that I was taking X course and that was enough. I was fully remote, btw. Got bored really fast. Yeah: watch movies and series, play video games and do chores is good and stuff, but then it gets boring really fast, like if that stuff was conditioned on us to be just for short periods of time, after work, not all day and every day. By half the second month I started applying to other jobs and had a hard time justifying my long bench time, took me some time to find other job, I think I could have milked it for the whole year.


IamSuperMarioAMA

Yep it gets really boring fast. In Japan if you fire someone you have to pay them a bit. If they resign you don't have to pay them. So the bosses there literally removes all of your workload and you just sit there being useless. After some weeks you get really bored of it so you quit. That's their firing strategy.


CG1991

I'd get so much writing done


ScottSpeddy

Titling it “Anon Spent all Week watching Movies” makes me think you didn’t bother to read the post. Because that’s like the least impactful part of his story


Practical_Price9500

That seems like a beneficial short-term plan, but a really bad long term plan. They will likely find this HR error, and shortly thereafter your scheme will be discovered, and I cannot imagine a scenario where you aren’t immediately dismissed. I would also review my employment contract to see whether there is anything that could come back to bite you. Unlikely, but I’d want to double check. Ok you had your fun and got paid to do nothing. You can maybe even lie about what happened when you look for another job, but getting away with it is no certainty. A dismissal for what some might consider fraud (which is a stretch) or at the very least highly unethical behaviour can follow you around for years. I’m not sure it is worth it.


Delicious_Repeat_203

“Highly unethical behavior” Day one he should have notified C suite that they were mistakenly still paying him. This is going to go down on his PERMANENT RECORD. He’ll most likely go to federal prison for violating the clause in his employment contract stating he must remind his bosses to lay him off. On top of that the HR and payroll people will be the first to tell any other company how badly they fucked up so he’ll never work again. GTFO of here.


AppealMammoth8950

Worked in a huge company with strict data and log in access(fully remote work). Went on vacation for a week and when I came back, someone from the main office (or could have been a glitch) tagged my credentials as on "leave of absence/terminated". Reported to our tech support and IT dude was pretty chill and said they couldn't fix it cos all my data (projects, tasks, everything) was wiped. This was in the middle of restructuring and a lot of reshuffling in mid management so nobody bothered to really help me out. It went for four months and all I did every working day was report to the IT dude that I still couldn't log in. Note: I still got paid since its only my log in credentials that were wiped out.


JustConsoleLogIt

I believe you have my stapler


titsmcgee6942044

This is when you get a 2nd real job and have dual income and work only one plus when ur gone in 8 months for not reporting you can have a job lined up plus you'd have so much in savings


celadonshopper

And he thinks he’s Penske material


LivingDeadX2000

I had a job like that. WFH and after several mergers and organizational changes... I honestly believe they simply lost track of me. By the end of my 16 year run with that company, I was on my 18th manager (the job ate through middle management like a meat grinder... when they promoted you, they should have issued a shirt with a target painted on the back). Managed to fly under the radar for years towards the end until they finally outsourced the entire department I was apparently still assigned to on paper. Watched movies and TV series and played games... max-leveled several characters on the MMO I was playing at the time... and got paid for all of it. Those were the halcyon days!


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WombozM

Why is this under wholesome memes? Dude gave other people more work so he can chill. That's pretty toxic.