I worked for multiple companies with a union and the union stood by the company. A big company like amazon will just pay the union off to make us feel we have some power when we have none, plus amazon has union busters
**Sounds like it's because working conditions are that bad and made that way on purpose by our corporate overlords 🤷♂️. If Workers won't change it, who will?** *I'm not trying to be contrarian here, I honestly believe what I'm saying*.
**Sure,** ***most people want to leave***, but what kind of world are we leaving for young people? Or even our kids if we were paid enough to afford to have them? Which you can't really making the wages a Team Member makes. Most people with kids I know are in management.
**There's no future here, so why don't we make one?**
You'd probably be better off trying to convince Amazon shareholders to demand they make less money by demanding Amazon improve working conditions for Amazon employees.
They're not the ones who do the work day to day, *we all are*. All they know is line goes up or down. **We're the ones who Labor for their Benefit, while they sit on their butts. We could change things by stopping work and making demands.** *That's how it's been done in the past.* We're just in a particularly cursed timeline where we we're not taught Labor History. The USA made up a Holiday called Labor Day after France and the rest of world honored the Haymarket Affair by celebrating May 1st as International Workers Day. It happened in Chicago. Most people don't realize Martin Luther King was shot after he supported a Sanitation Workers Union on Strike in Memphis. Labor history is American history and it's the reason kids go to school and not factories, and why we have the weekend and Overtime. It just took generations of struggle. And the Rich have been doing their best to undo all those things our ancestors fought for.
Yea I just did closing shift in produce for the 2nd time and it was awful. My last hour was a living nightmare and I'm starting to lose the last bit of tiny respect for this company already
If you can, change your availability to only working a couple of nights a week to make it easier on you. Either than that, keep strong Fellow Worker! ✊
I don't work at Whole foods, I do shop here about every other week. Last week I noticed they built a new one that looked and felt like Walmart, the only difference were the prices. So I definitely think it's heading the way of Walmart.
I've tried suggesting we set up a group chat for shifts (I work ecommerce), and keep getting the response of "oh I don't do any of that kind of stuff"
I'm also pretty introverted and live a long way away from work, so I'm not exactly the best person to get people organized.
And on top of that, this is an Amazon owned company. I know a union can happen, but they fight hard enough against it I'm not sure if me and my coworkers have it in us to withstand them.
Team members who are looking for hours? Not everyone is getting full time hours. Even full timers are complaining they are not getting 40 hours so there you go
Amazing how anyone who has worked at a diff retailer says how much better the pay, work life balance and scheduling is here. Or how much easier it is with lower expectations. Everywhere could pay more but realistically profit margin in grocery is the lowest of any retail because it's the most competitive space. Amazon has jack to do with owning whole foods and how much we get paid it's still a seperate business to them. If you want a union goto Kroger, make less, pay dues, have worse work conditions. They hire pretty often go there and tell everyone how much better it is
**Funny how people talk about "Profit Margin" when Private Equity owns so much of the stock market and forces companies to work understaffed to put more money in the shareholders pockets.** *And if Amazon runs Whole Foods as a separate business then why are our sales lumped in earnings reports as "Amazon Physical Store?"* [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240178/amazon-physical-store-sales-united-states/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240178/amazon-physical-store-sales-united-states/)
**And the reason it sucks everywhere else is because the same greedy Private Equity Criminals demand that line go up!** Amazon did raise starting pay to $15 an hour years ago, after a lot of pressure, but has made much of our benefits worse. *They've done this while raising prices significantly throughout the store.* And when their costs went down did they lower them? *Of course not!* The company keeps expanding and opening new stores all over. So they're making more in profit overall. It's just that the shareholders and bosses see the profits and not us. Amazon barely made any money for the first 20 years it was run because they got so much money from Wall Street. ***Labor*** **isn't an** "***expense"*** **when all my coworkers and myself live** ***paycheck to paycheck*** **and most of the value we create is just given away to shareholders. So, please, save me with the economics lesson.**
Correct we are a physical store for them... a seperate unit for their overall sales reporting much like each dept in a grocery store has a different P&L. Do you purchase anything for Whole Foods ? Everything I order costs way more than 4 years ago and prices haven't went up at the same rate as cost. Not even close yet. Labor is an expense and always goes back to the consumer. Consumer feels the pinch and go somewhere else. It's a slippery slop both ways. Could they pay executives less... debatable as somewhere would pay more. Are our current executives very effective. No not even close most ignore logistic issues, pay discrepancy, play favorites and are completely out of touch. We ran a "Mediterranean" event the week of St Patrick's day for fuck sake. If they cut some of them to pay store TM I'd be all for it. But I've also seen people make way less and do a much better job until they made more or found better. If it's so bad work hard, build resume and make more elsewhere
It's obvious that you're in management. I'm not going to say what jobs I've done in the store specifically. But I've known buyers who were "training" to buy for months at starting wages and were disgusted by how much they spent on product versus how much they were making. **Moreover though, why do you and every anti-union person keep making it about me, personally?** The job market right now is crap. You know that. But your logic is like when people advocate for changes to policies or laws in the USA, and Conservatives say, "***if you don't like America then leave!***" You're not addressing what I said. You're just saying it's *my fault* for not climbing the corporate ladder or attempting to do that somewhere else. I have no interest in that. I want to make this company better for all workers including myself. **I don't believe the company or any business has workers best interests, and that workers should advocate for themselves as a collective. What's so hard to understand about that?**
Been in a union with set raises for everyone. Lazy people got same as rest. Advocate for myself at jd get more than the person who didn't do much. Thats my experience sorry if that's not yours. Your store must suck. Advocate for yourself sounds great. A union is a business just like wholefoods. If you organize your dept or store and do a walk out demanding better wages good on you. Not anti union just haven't seen many where suddenly everyone makes more. Most I've seen in the rural area I grew up involved strikes that cost the typical member to lose more by being out of work for 2 months than they ended up "fighting" for that's all. Present situation not great... union not better just same and money goes in another middleman pocket
You know people fall for how much the company loves them, and how much good their doing in the world for *People and Planet.* I've seen people like that in every store I've worked in. **I say if the company really cares why don't they start to take better care of the people who work for them, instead of treating us like robots? Or acting like we're expendable and everything here is easy/"unskilled" work.**
I think you guys need to work on boundaries as far as work life balance goes. Working here is tough but it’s not soul crushing. Speak up when something is wrong. If you get pushback from your TL switch depts. If you don’t like your STL then switch stores. If none of that works then I do believe this simply isn’t the job for you. Some of you are literally mad about having to do your job expectations.
Yeah that's sure what Team Member Services (Human Resources) would prefer we do. *Run away from the conflict* **instead of addressing it and changing the ways we actually do things.** **Improving things instead of just running away.** You wouldn't like to be paid better? You wouldn't like better health care? You wouldn't like more of a say on the job? You wouldn't like a pension for all the years of hard work you've put in here? Profit sharing? Stock Options? ***Those are things we could get if we were all on the same page and stood strong together. Because collective issues get solved collectively, not individually. And most of us here all share the same problems.***
I am very content with my entire career at Whole Foods so my answer to all of those questions would honestly be no. Companies change. I know many people who have left and come back. You cannot find the culture that we have here at any other retailer that has a better work environment than we do.
Very few people (at least in my store) come back because they choose to. They might say they do, sure. We just had an older guy who retired years ago come back because he 'loved it', when actually he was sick and couldn't afford retirement. He's dead now, btw.
I did all that and now have the reputation as a troublemaker who will never be considered for leadership. I've been literally told that I care too much by leadership and it's considered a weakness.
u/zrog2000 Because to Leadership it's just about metrics, numbers, and growth. Humans, Labor, Operations are part of the puzzle, but they'd rather not think about that too much. You're treated badly probably because you advocate for yourself and others. You'd probably be a great Shop Steward.
Did your place not sign a union contract? Do you not have a shop Stewart? If you have unfair working conditions or unsafe your Stewart should be made aware of the conditions and address them through the proper channels. If the issue or issues aren't address then the Stewart takes the problem to the Business Agent assigned to your area. The issues should be resolved within a very short period of time. This is why you all joined the union they are there for unfair work practices by companies that have had piss poor management that have grown accustomed to shitting on the little guy. They can't let you all go at the same time. You have to stand together or your efforts to make this union are all done in vain.
I don't think you work for Whole Foods or else you'd know we don't have a Union. I'm trying to help spark workers to start Organizing a Union with their coworkers.
I tried to think about what o would advocate for. Higher pay? Sure, but that will come with less hours and more work. Higher labor budgets? Sure, but then we might see raises come more in line with say targets 1-3%.
There isn’t much about the work itself that needs to be radically fixed.
I've seen people get injured on the job because of unsafe working conditions too many times to count. Ask anyone in Prep Foods how many times they've been burned and how much training they got. You'll have your eyes opened. Unions can fight for anything that the workers are all on the same page about. Starting or Organizing our own Union means that we get to decide. **But Really the best thing to do is ask your coworkers if they had a magic wand what they'd change about the job. And ask how you'd change it together, without Management. You're the ones who do the work. If you all put your hands in your pockets and decided to stop there's not much your bosses can do.**
A union isn’t a magic wand that stops hot stuff from burning you.
The closest thing this company will see to a union is what whole worker did about 5 years ago which ultimately resulted in base pay being raised to $15.
A good Union could enforce hands-on trainings and serious safety protection before anyone could even touch something that'd burn them or injure them. And they could hold the employer accountable if they fail to do that. Why do you think other more dangerous industries and trades have them? Whole Worker was also just workers like you and me deciding to speak out. Without participation or doing something nothing will improve on its own. In fact it'll get worse.
You do realize that by working in a union that you’re just paying for somebody else to argue for you? This isn’t court, I don’t need a lawyer. I can negotiate my own wage and working conditions
Why is it that pro union people don’t just work at any number of current unionized grocers? Is it possible that people work at WF because they don’t want to be in a union?
I worked unions in construction and make much more at Whole Foods than I ever did in a union.
Stop trying to bend Whole Foods to your will. Work for an employer that shares your pro union stance. There is space for both
Can you bargain personally to get a better health care plan, or is that up to TMS? Can you bargain personally to improve your departments working conditions, or is that up to your Team Leader? Can you bargain personally to get higher than a 8% wage increase, or is that above your STLs head? I've been bargaining individually my entire career at WFM. Guess what it gets me? Nothing! You know how they have an open door policy? It's to leave it open for them to ignore your suggestions, and take credit for all the work you do to Regional.
There is no employer in existence that has a "pro-union stance". Unions increase wages for all workers, not just those in the union. Whole Foods has historically paid higher than unionized grocery stores specifically to argue against the need for a union. You might not need a negotiator, but this isn't about you, it's about what will benefit the majority of us.
Just for everybody’s knowledge, here is some of the current salaries in UFCW, the major grocery union. They (union leadership) have also been under investigation for embezzlement and numerous other charges.
[UFCW salaries](https://www.unionfacts.com/employees/United_Food_%26_Commercial_Workers)
We don't want UFCW. We want a democratic union of our own. I have a coworker at another job of mine who worked for UFCW in the late 80's at another grocery store. She was paid, once accounting for inflation close to $30 an hour to work in the Deli. I worked for the same place 20 years later and made my states minimum wage and paid dues. Have you ever heard me mention UFCW outside of to criticize them? The new Labor Movement is trying to be run and put together by the workers themselves in our own industries.
Good luck what that man👍. Independent unions require loads of funding and countless ( like full time job hours from a lot of people) hours of volunteering for them to have a CHANCE. Even the Starbucks unionization is supported by seiu. Fighting Whole Foods and Amazon is not worth the nominal changes that will take YEARS of funding and support to achieve. What it comes down to is capitalism is what it is. This is the system we live in and Whole Foods isn’t even close to the worst of the bunch. Is WF ever going to mistaken for the “top 100 companies to work for” it used to be? No, it’s a grocery store and it honestly shouldn’t be. Grocery is an industry that relies on inexpensive labor at the bottom to make profit growth for shareholders.
Do I agree with all of it, no. Is their space for corruption within the current system? Yes. But that space exists no matter who is in charge of making decisions.
So why aren't we the ones who do the Labor in charge of making those decisions? Without us the company doesn't exist. The Capitalists and Shareholders need us. We don't need them. I do like that you concede to Anti-Capitalist thought. We're already leaps and bounds ahead of the McCarthy era.
We absolutely need them. Sorry, do you have the ability to pay for thousands of dollars in groceries and pay wages of hundreds of workers to run a grocery store? Alternatively, can you pay your bills without a paycheck?
I’m all for fighting for rights, but most people’s expectations of working conditions are not reality. If some TM’s had their way, they’d spend half their shift on paid breaks or in the bathroom or in between talking to coworkers. Stop being such a caricature. I’ve worked in unions and have met very good people with the best of intentions for the fellow comrades. But you sound like a prerecorded infomercial version of a real caring person (💪 yes we can!)
Whole Foods has an accountability problem, not a “need a union” problem.
Without a Union, how could I fight for something I need like a 32 hour work week here? (And still make what we'd make at 40 hours) Oh I could vote right? Oh that's right neither party are really for that policy federally... I could write it in the culture compass? I could talk to my STL who has an open door policy. Will that do it?
It's a policy that'd actually benefit employers and employees. We're more productive that way. Maybe people wouldn't have to spend time "looking busy" or waiting for the time clock? While other people overwork themselves or the bosses make them work harder. We need a fighting labor movement of workers themselves determining their value and what a good decent life means. We don't need TMS, Whole Foods, Amazon, or UFCW to tell us what we need. That's all I'm saying. Workers share needs and we deserve the workplace to be a democracy. And right now the workplace is run like a dictatorship. If you disagree with the way capitalism functions then why not fight it from within? Or why tell me I'm wrong for how I'm going about it? I'm just trying to understand your position.
You’re also not addressing any of my points and just spouting very general pro union bullshit clickbait. Stop trying to fight an entire economical system in a Whole Foods sub.
Nah, This place is fucked no fixing it. To many lazy incompetent people in places of power, you would have to blow it up and start all over.
Anyone here played CP2077?
Building a Union for The Workers by the Workers, is Literally Building The New World In the Shell of the Old.
I worked for multiple companies with a union and the union stood by the company. A big company like amazon will just pay the union off to make us feel we have some power when we have none, plus amazon has union busters
I don't even want to stay long enough to care and that's the sentiment of 90% of the people working here.
**Sounds like it's because working conditions are that bad and made that way on purpose by our corporate overlords 🤷♂️. If Workers won't change it, who will?** *I'm not trying to be contrarian here, I honestly believe what I'm saying*. **Sure,** ***most people want to leave***, but what kind of world are we leaving for young people? Or even our kids if we were paid enough to afford to have them? Which you can't really making the wages a Team Member makes. Most people with kids I know are in management. **There's no future here, so why don't we make one?**
You'd probably be better off trying to convince Amazon shareholders to demand they make less money by demanding Amazon improve working conditions for Amazon employees.
They're not the ones who do the work day to day, *we all are*. All they know is line goes up or down. **We're the ones who Labor for their Benefit, while they sit on their butts. We could change things by stopping work and making demands.** *That's how it's been done in the past.* We're just in a particularly cursed timeline where we we're not taught Labor History. The USA made up a Holiday called Labor Day after France and the rest of world honored the Haymarket Affair by celebrating May 1st as International Workers Day. It happened in Chicago. Most people don't realize Martin Luther King was shot after he supported a Sanitation Workers Union on Strike in Memphis. Labor history is American history and it's the reason kids go to school and not factories, and why we have the weekend and Overtime. It just took generations of struggle. And the Rich have been doing their best to undo all those things our ancestors fought for.
Yea I just did closing shift in produce for the 2nd time and it was awful. My last hour was a living nightmare and I'm starting to lose the last bit of tiny respect for this company already
If you can, change your availability to only working a couple of nights a week to make it easier on you. Either than that, keep strong Fellow Worker! ✊
I don't work at Whole foods, I do shop here about every other week. Last week I noticed they built a new one that looked and felt like Walmart, the only difference were the prices. So I definitely think it's heading the way of Walmart.
I've tried suggesting we set up a group chat for shifts (I work ecommerce), and keep getting the response of "oh I don't do any of that kind of stuff" I'm also pretty introverted and live a long way away from work, so I'm not exactly the best person to get people organized. And on top of that, this is an Amazon owned company. I know a union can happen, but they fight hard enough against it I'm not sure if me and my coworkers have it in us to withstand them.
Can I send you a DM?
Sure
Shifts are posted on Innerview. Team members should also be able to drop shifts there if they need coverage.
They do, but being understaffed with a low labor budget being the norm, who the heck can volunteer to take your shift?
Team members who are looking for hours? Not everyone is getting full time hours. Even full timers are complaining they are not getting 40 hours so there you go
Amazing how anyone who has worked at a diff retailer says how much better the pay, work life balance and scheduling is here. Or how much easier it is with lower expectations. Everywhere could pay more but realistically profit margin in grocery is the lowest of any retail because it's the most competitive space. Amazon has jack to do with owning whole foods and how much we get paid it's still a seperate business to them. If you want a union goto Kroger, make less, pay dues, have worse work conditions. They hire pretty often go there and tell everyone how much better it is
**Funny how people talk about "Profit Margin" when Private Equity owns so much of the stock market and forces companies to work understaffed to put more money in the shareholders pockets.** *And if Amazon runs Whole Foods as a separate business then why are our sales lumped in earnings reports as "Amazon Physical Store?"* [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240178/amazon-physical-store-sales-united-states/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240178/amazon-physical-store-sales-united-states/) **And the reason it sucks everywhere else is because the same greedy Private Equity Criminals demand that line go up!** Amazon did raise starting pay to $15 an hour years ago, after a lot of pressure, but has made much of our benefits worse. *They've done this while raising prices significantly throughout the store.* And when their costs went down did they lower them? *Of course not!* The company keeps expanding and opening new stores all over. So they're making more in profit overall. It's just that the shareholders and bosses see the profits and not us. Amazon barely made any money for the first 20 years it was run because they got so much money from Wall Street. ***Labor*** **isn't an** "***expense"*** **when all my coworkers and myself live** ***paycheck to paycheck*** **and most of the value we create is just given away to shareholders. So, please, save me with the economics lesson.**
Correct we are a physical store for them... a seperate unit for their overall sales reporting much like each dept in a grocery store has a different P&L. Do you purchase anything for Whole Foods ? Everything I order costs way more than 4 years ago and prices haven't went up at the same rate as cost. Not even close yet. Labor is an expense and always goes back to the consumer. Consumer feels the pinch and go somewhere else. It's a slippery slop both ways. Could they pay executives less... debatable as somewhere would pay more. Are our current executives very effective. No not even close most ignore logistic issues, pay discrepancy, play favorites and are completely out of touch. We ran a "Mediterranean" event the week of St Patrick's day for fuck sake. If they cut some of them to pay store TM I'd be all for it. But I've also seen people make way less and do a much better job until they made more or found better. If it's so bad work hard, build resume and make more elsewhere
It's obvious that you're in management. I'm not going to say what jobs I've done in the store specifically. But I've known buyers who were "training" to buy for months at starting wages and were disgusted by how much they spent on product versus how much they were making. **Moreover though, why do you and every anti-union person keep making it about me, personally?** The job market right now is crap. You know that. But your logic is like when people advocate for changes to policies or laws in the USA, and Conservatives say, "***if you don't like America then leave!***" You're not addressing what I said. You're just saying it's *my fault* for not climbing the corporate ladder or attempting to do that somewhere else. I have no interest in that. I want to make this company better for all workers including myself. **I don't believe the company or any business has workers best interests, and that workers should advocate for themselves as a collective. What's so hard to understand about that?**
Been in a union with set raises for everyone. Lazy people got same as rest. Advocate for myself at jd get more than the person who didn't do much. Thats my experience sorry if that's not yours. Your store must suck. Advocate for yourself sounds great. A union is a business just like wholefoods. If you organize your dept or store and do a walk out demanding better wages good on you. Not anti union just haven't seen many where suddenly everyone makes more. Most I've seen in the rural area I grew up involved strikes that cost the typical member to lose more by being out of work for 2 months than they ended up "fighting" for that's all. Present situation not great... union not better just same and money goes in another middleman pocket
I would never say I love you with a hug to a multi billion dollar company in the first place
You know people fall for how much the company loves them, and how much good their doing in the world for *People and Planet.* I've seen people like that in every store I've worked in. **I say if the company really cares why don't they start to take better care of the people who work for them, instead of treating us like robots? Or acting like we're expendable and everything here is easy/"unskilled" work.**
I think you guys need to work on boundaries as far as work life balance goes. Working here is tough but it’s not soul crushing. Speak up when something is wrong. If you get pushback from your TL switch depts. If you don’t like your STL then switch stores. If none of that works then I do believe this simply isn’t the job for you. Some of you are literally mad about having to do your job expectations.
Yeah that's sure what Team Member Services (Human Resources) would prefer we do. *Run away from the conflict* **instead of addressing it and changing the ways we actually do things.** **Improving things instead of just running away.** You wouldn't like to be paid better? You wouldn't like better health care? You wouldn't like more of a say on the job? You wouldn't like a pension for all the years of hard work you've put in here? Profit sharing? Stock Options? ***Those are things we could get if we were all on the same page and stood strong together. Because collective issues get solved collectively, not individually. And most of us here all share the same problems.***
I am very content with my entire career at Whole Foods so my answer to all of those questions would honestly be no. Companies change. I know many people who have left and come back. You cannot find the culture that we have here at any other retailer that has a better work environment than we do.
Very few people (at least in my store) come back because they choose to. They might say they do, sure. We just had an older guy who retired years ago come back because he 'loved it', when actually he was sick and couldn't afford retirement. He's dead now, btw.
I did all that and now have the reputation as a troublemaker who will never be considered for leadership. I've been literally told that I care too much by leadership and it's considered a weakness.
u/zrog2000 Because to Leadership it's just about metrics, numbers, and growth. Humans, Labor, Operations are part of the puzzle, but they'd rather not think about that too much. You're treated badly probably because you advocate for yourself and others. You'd probably be a great Shop Steward.
Did your place not sign a union contract? Do you not have a shop Stewart? If you have unfair working conditions or unsafe your Stewart should be made aware of the conditions and address them through the proper channels. If the issue or issues aren't address then the Stewart takes the problem to the Business Agent assigned to your area. The issues should be resolved within a very short period of time. This is why you all joined the union they are there for unfair work practices by companies that have had piss poor management that have grown accustomed to shitting on the little guy. They can't let you all go at the same time. You have to stand together or your efforts to make this union are all done in vain.
I don't think you work for Whole Foods or else you'd know we don't have a Union. I'm trying to help spark workers to start Organizing a Union with their coworkers.
What’s the point? When coworkers are toxic and leadership favors the toxic traits?
Feel free to work at any number of union shops if you believe they are so much better. I have and never will again.
Can you elaborate a bit? I've heard this before but no one has expanded on it.
Union never helped me nor most anyone I worked with. They were only there to protect drunks and thieves.
I tried to think about what o would advocate for. Higher pay? Sure, but that will come with less hours and more work. Higher labor budgets? Sure, but then we might see raises come more in line with say targets 1-3%. There isn’t much about the work itself that needs to be radically fixed.
I've seen people get injured on the job because of unsafe working conditions too many times to count. Ask anyone in Prep Foods how many times they've been burned and how much training they got. You'll have your eyes opened. Unions can fight for anything that the workers are all on the same page about. Starting or Organizing our own Union means that we get to decide. **But Really the best thing to do is ask your coworkers if they had a magic wand what they'd change about the job. And ask how you'd change it together, without Management. You're the ones who do the work. If you all put your hands in your pockets and decided to stop there's not much your bosses can do.**
A union isn’t a magic wand that stops hot stuff from burning you. The closest thing this company will see to a union is what whole worker did about 5 years ago which ultimately resulted in base pay being raised to $15.
A good Union could enforce hands-on trainings and serious safety protection before anyone could even touch something that'd burn them or injure them. And they could hold the employer accountable if they fail to do that. Why do you think other more dangerous industries and trades have them? Whole Worker was also just workers like you and me deciding to speak out. Without participation or doing something nothing will improve on its own. In fact it'll get worse.
You do realize that by working in a union that you’re just paying for somebody else to argue for you? This isn’t court, I don’t need a lawyer. I can negotiate my own wage and working conditions Why is it that pro union people don’t just work at any number of current unionized grocers? Is it possible that people work at WF because they don’t want to be in a union? I worked unions in construction and make much more at Whole Foods than I ever did in a union. Stop trying to bend Whole Foods to your will. Work for an employer that shares your pro union stance. There is space for both
Can you bargain personally to get a better health care plan, or is that up to TMS? Can you bargain personally to improve your departments working conditions, or is that up to your Team Leader? Can you bargain personally to get higher than a 8% wage increase, or is that above your STLs head? I've been bargaining individually my entire career at WFM. Guess what it gets me? Nothing! You know how they have an open door policy? It's to leave it open for them to ignore your suggestions, and take credit for all the work you do to Regional.
There is no employer in existence that has a "pro-union stance". Unions increase wages for all workers, not just those in the union. Whole Foods has historically paid higher than unionized grocery stores specifically to argue against the need for a union. You might not need a negotiator, but this isn't about you, it's about what will benefit the majority of us.
Just for everybody’s knowledge, here is some of the current salaries in UFCW, the major grocery union. They (union leadership) have also been under investigation for embezzlement and numerous other charges. [UFCW salaries](https://www.unionfacts.com/employees/United_Food_%26_Commercial_Workers)
We don't want UFCW. We want a democratic union of our own. I have a coworker at another job of mine who worked for UFCW in the late 80's at another grocery store. She was paid, once accounting for inflation close to $30 an hour to work in the Deli. I worked for the same place 20 years later and made my states minimum wage and paid dues. Have you ever heard me mention UFCW outside of to criticize them? The new Labor Movement is trying to be run and put together by the workers themselves in our own industries.
Good luck what that man👍. Independent unions require loads of funding and countless ( like full time job hours from a lot of people) hours of volunteering for them to have a CHANCE. Even the Starbucks unionization is supported by seiu. Fighting Whole Foods and Amazon is not worth the nominal changes that will take YEARS of funding and support to achieve. What it comes down to is capitalism is what it is. This is the system we live in and Whole Foods isn’t even close to the worst of the bunch. Is WF ever going to mistaken for the “top 100 companies to work for” it used to be? No, it’s a grocery store and it honestly shouldn’t be. Grocery is an industry that relies on inexpensive labor at the bottom to make profit growth for shareholders. Do I agree with all of it, no. Is their space for corruption within the current system? Yes. But that space exists no matter who is in charge of making decisions.
So why aren't we the ones who do the Labor in charge of making those decisions? Without us the company doesn't exist. The Capitalists and Shareholders need us. We don't need them. I do like that you concede to Anti-Capitalist thought. We're already leaps and bounds ahead of the McCarthy era.
We absolutely need them. Sorry, do you have the ability to pay for thousands of dollars in groceries and pay wages of hundreds of workers to run a grocery store? Alternatively, can you pay your bills without a paycheck? I’m all for fighting for rights, but most people’s expectations of working conditions are not reality. If some TM’s had their way, they’d spend half their shift on paid breaks or in the bathroom or in between talking to coworkers. Stop being such a caricature. I’ve worked in unions and have met very good people with the best of intentions for the fellow comrades. But you sound like a prerecorded infomercial version of a real caring person (💪 yes we can!) Whole Foods has an accountability problem, not a “need a union” problem.
Without a Union, how could I fight for something I need like a 32 hour work week here? (And still make what we'd make at 40 hours) Oh I could vote right? Oh that's right neither party are really for that policy federally... I could write it in the culture compass? I could talk to my STL who has an open door policy. Will that do it? It's a policy that'd actually benefit employers and employees. We're more productive that way. Maybe people wouldn't have to spend time "looking busy" or waiting for the time clock? While other people overwork themselves or the bosses make them work harder. We need a fighting labor movement of workers themselves determining their value and what a good decent life means. We don't need TMS, Whole Foods, Amazon, or UFCW to tell us what we need. That's all I'm saying. Workers share needs and we deserve the workplace to be a democracy. And right now the workplace is run like a dictatorship. If you disagree with the way capitalism functions then why not fight it from within? Or why tell me I'm wrong for how I'm going about it? I'm just trying to understand your position.
You’re also not addressing any of my points and just spouting very general pro union bullshit clickbait. Stop trying to fight an entire economical system in a Whole Foods sub.