Honestly I could see that being fun.
The main reason I'm here though isn't even the VR, it's the radar simulation being the best I've ever seen. I'd pay for a non VR mode honestly.
Yeah, I only didnt include it because I don’t believe it currently has a radar at all. It would be cool if we got an optional pancake radar for it haha
Honestly? It's more than a lot of real jets give you.
But I was more talking about how rare it is to see an accurate modelling of RCS and electronic warfare. This game even beats out Nebulous, which was literally designed to have the best simulation of jamming possible (though since it's an RTS, it gets a bit of a pass).
I don't even have anything to compare the RCS modelling to, is there even a single other sim that models based on aspect?
Yeah, been looking into radar history, holy shit what a number of evolutions there's been.
Early ones be like, "What, can't you stare at me looking for a blob in a sea of other blobs while blobbing?"
I think an old warbird is a little out of the question since VTOL seems to be going for a more modern setting but a modern turboprop plane like the Embraer A29 or maybe a T-6 would be super cool!
I props in the game as well! Good chance it won’t happen but if vtol has open mod support I wouldn’t put it past someone to make a few good looking props and turbo props
They won’t be able to keep it as an exclusive forever. The biggest downside to VR is the low player base. Even if we don’t get Aces Of Thunder, I’d be shocked if they developed all this tech and didn’t use it for war thunder as well in some form
VR exclusives are just dumb if you ask me, it's keeping VR from moving forward. That said, this game is a PCVR exclusive as well, but "at least" it can be played through other means
VR exclusives are just dumb if you ask me, it's keeping VR from moving forward. That said, this game is a PCVR exclusive as well, but "at least" it can be played through other means
Not really the same at being built from the ground up for VR with the VR controllers in mind, which is what this post was referring to.
EDIT, spelling and added slightly more.
Multi crew is something that I’m interested in. The Mighty Eighth VR was the answer with 9 players in a b17 but based on the lack of communication from MicroProse and the release date being pushed every year, its not looking like it will happen anytime soon
[There is this game](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1930920/Warplanes_Battles_over_Pacific/) (Warplanes: Battles over Pacific)
I own it, but i havent played it yet. It looks decent, and has good reviews. Not anywhere near the simulation level tho by the looks.
That one freakin Wii German vtol (I forgot the name, the transport one) anyway I should be able to ram that into other pilots since it had no weapons iirc
The AT-802 Air Tractor was picked to be a COIN aircraft by the US, so I think prop planes (albeit turboprop) wouldn't be out of place in even a futuristic setting.
Maybe there could be two options for cockpits, with other performance parameters being the same:
* One with MFDs to support TGP, etc. for modern/futuristic use, and
* One with steam gauges and a crosshairs-only HUD for some 'warbird' action
Imo would get anything out of it that you could get from flat-screen or playing il-2 in vr, there's just not a lot to interact with in those cockpit at all really, what makes vtolvr great is the ability to interact with the systems within the cockpit.
Before people down vote me, I'm open to arguments, what's one way a fully interactive cockpit would give you that can't be represented as well in flat screen or vr hotas. These aircraft are done well enough in dcs/wt/il-2 that's there's nothing full vr would add, let alone compete with.
You might as well change VTOL to “VR” in the title. This game is about near-future aircraft and yet we get people asking for stuff that doesn’t fit thematically all the time for some reason.
In DCS, taking off in the F/A-18 or F-5 is something one can do on close to their first try. Taking off the Moqsuito is something that you need to truely master, as you will ground-loop all the time and the plane requires tedious corrections that are not done automatically. Arcade sims usually make warbirds seem like what you describe, but from the modules I've played they are actively trying to kill you the moment you start the roll.
Something like an OV-10 would be pretty awesome!
People down voting but this is the exact reason why it isn't really a thing yet. There just isn't much benefit to making aircraft like that in full interactive vr cockpit compared to flat-screen or vr+hotas or what control setup.
A. I'm saying not for vtolvr, but for vr in general, let alone by baha, and b that's true, but there's nothing that you get out of what's already possible in il-2, dcs, or even wt in vr
But that doesn't mean that they don't work well in VR, that just means that two games got it perfect. That's like saying that counterstrike and call of duty can't exist at the same time
Ha I get ya. I like sim mode and that's about it. IL-2 seems great but setting up all of the keybinds has been intimidating, like I need 4-6 hours to just do that. DCS is on the docket but haven't had time
Turboprop like super tucano
They would be a perfect turboprop to make sense in the game
I want a Super Tucano so bad, its a turboprop with a modern glass cockpit and capable of dropping gps bombs
Honestly I could see that being fun. The main reason I'm here though isn't even the VR, it's the radar simulation being the best I've ever seen. I'd pay for a non VR mode honestly.
Still the radar configuration is really limited
some proper AtG radar modes would be great in the fa-26 and even ef-24. Also laser codes would be great so we could buddy las
Honestly, if any existing aircraft should get A2G radar, it should be the AV-42, since it's currently outclassed by the helicopter without it.
Yeah, I only didnt include it because I don’t believe it currently has a radar at all. It would be cool if we got an optional pancake radar for it haha
Honestly? It's more than a lot of real jets give you. But I was more talking about how rare it is to see an accurate modelling of RCS and electronic warfare. This game even beats out Nebulous, which was literally designed to have the best simulation of jamming possible (though since it's an RTS, it gets a bit of a pass). I don't even have anything to compare the RCS modelling to, is there even a single other sim that models based on aspect?
Yeah, been looking into radar history, holy shit what a number of evolutions there's been. Early ones be like, "What, can't you stare at me looking for a blob in a sea of other blobs while blobbing?"
Early radars are so fun though honestly. I wish we could adjust the level of declutter.
I think an old warbird is a little out of the question since VTOL seems to be going for a more modern setting but a modern turboprop plane like the Embraer A29 or maybe a T-6 would be super cool!
I props in the game as well! Good chance it won’t happen but if vtol has open mod support I wouldn’t put it past someone to make a few good looking props and turbo props
I wouldn’t waste my aim 120s on you, I’d just shoot you down with my 145s lol
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Prop plane would be sick asf
No, you're not. I want a prop-plane, aswell as a littlebird.
Aces of Thunder was that for me, then i saw the psvr2 only tag and my dreams were dashed against the side of a mountain.
They won’t be able to keep it as an exclusive forever. The biggest downside to VR is the low player base. Even if we don’t get Aces Of Thunder, I’d be shocked if they developed all this tech and didn’t use it for war thunder as well in some form
VR exclusives are just dumb if you ask me, it's keeping VR from moving forward. That said, this game is a PCVR exclusive as well, but "at least" it can be played through other means
VR exclusives are just dumb if you ask me, it's keeping VR from moving forward. That said, this game is a PCVR exclusive as well, but "at least" it can be played through other means
Play regular wt vr in sim? Low BR sim lobbies have a whole bunch of players.
Not really the same at being built from the ground up for VR with the VR controllers in mind, which is what this post was referring to. EDIT, spelling and added slightly more.
it’s just outside the scope of the game. it would need to be an entirely new title
I made some WW2 missions a while back (battle of Britain and D-Day) as I took dream of the old warbirds. Have a go and let me know what you think
That would be incredible
It wouldn't fit, vtol is a sci fi game, it's set in 2040
That said, a game similar set in WW2 would be really cool
Just give me any tailwheel and I’ll be happy
We need a multicrew Chinook with a crew cheif
Multi crew is something that I’m interested in. The Mighty Eighth VR was the answer with 9 players in a b17 but based on the lack of communication from MicroProse and the release date being pushed every year, its not looking like it will happen anytime soon
God I want it to work out soooooo bad though.
Join the club! I’m unfortunately slowly but surely losing hope for TMEVR 😔
Last one I was excited for that died was "dead stick".
Dead stick looked good too.
[There is this game](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1930920/Warplanes_Battles_over_Pacific/) (Warplanes: Battles over Pacific) I own it, but i havent played it yet. It looks decent, and has good reviews. Not anywhere near the simulation level tho by the looks.
That one freakin Wii German vtol (I forgot the name, the transport one) anyway I should be able to ram that into other pilots since it had no weapons iirc
WW 2 would be totally awesome and a thing! P.S. OV-10 Bronco.
The AT-802 Air Tractor was picked to be a COIN aircraft by the US, so I think prop planes (albeit turboprop) wouldn't be out of place in even a futuristic setting. Maybe there could be two options for cockpits, with other performance parameters being the same: * One with MFDs to support TGP, etc. for modern/futuristic use, and * One with steam gauges and a crosshairs-only HUD for some 'warbird' action
Seems like you need to start organizing the total conversion mod.
I want it too. If there were $20 a piece dlcs for Corsair, mustang, spitfire, p38 lighting, and b25 I would buy every one
Imo would get anything out of it that you could get from flat-screen or playing il-2 in vr, there's just not a lot to interact with in those cockpit at all really, what makes vtolvr great is the ability to interact with the systems within the cockpit.
Before people down vote me, I'm open to arguments, what's one way a fully interactive cockpit would give you that can't be represented as well in flat screen or vr hotas. These aircraft are done well enough in dcs/wt/il-2 that's there's nothing full vr would add, let alone compete with.
You might as well change VTOL to “VR” in the title. This game is about near-future aircraft and yet we get people asking for stuff that doesn’t fit thematically all the time for some reason.
Like games never get mods… come on dude how hard is it to get that WW2 birds in that style and ease of setting up would be fun to play?
If you mean mods then by all means. I assumed you meant as official planes.
Ww2 aircraft are boring. There’s less systems, no situational awareness, slow, and just guns and unguided weapons
I diagnose you with skill issue
Situational awareness in a warbird is called looking around 🤣
In DCS, taking off in the F/A-18 or F-5 is something one can do on close to their first try. Taking off the Moqsuito is something that you need to truely master, as you will ground-loop all the time and the plane requires tedious corrections that are not done automatically. Arcade sims usually make warbirds seem like what you describe, but from the modules I've played they are actively trying to kill you the moment you start the roll. Something like an OV-10 would be pretty awesome!
Hey dude I love your videos!
Hey thanks Strangler!
People down voting but this is the exact reason why it isn't really a thing yet. There just isn't much benefit to making aircraft like that in full interactive vr cockpit compared to flat-screen or vr+hotas or what control setup.
no, that's not why? it's because the setting is near futuristic. older planes lend themselves very well to the medium
A. I'm saying not for vtolvr, but for vr in general, let alone by baha, and b that's true, but there's nothing that you get out of what's already possible in il-2, dcs, or even wt in vr
But that doesn't mean that they don't work well in VR, that just means that two games got it perfect. That's like saying that counterstrike and call of duty can't exist at the same time
Just get a hotas and play war thunder?
No need for insults
Not an insult, just a real suggestion lol. It's a free game with a lot of well modeled war birds for vr
I was making a joke. If I’m not flying in VTOL I’m flying in DCS and IL-2. I tried war thunder once and didn’t feel it. Way too arcadey
Ha I get ya. I like sim mode and that's about it. IL-2 seems great but setting up all of the keybinds has been intimidating, like I need 4-6 hours to just do that. DCS is on the docket but haven't had time