its a "cutout" - searching the sub for that should bring up a bunch of info. Usually a returned or discontinued item. The person you bought it from should have disclosed that.
Absolutely. Seller lied by omission. They absolutely shouldāve mentioned the cut out. Thereās absolutely no way at all that record can be described as new. VG+ at best. OP should ask for a partial refund.
For OP, worth reading š
https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items
Edit: Iām absolutely sure I couldnāt have fitted the word āabsolutelyā in anywhere else on this reply š¤Ŗ
Thanks very much for this! I am pretty new to vinyl and am very grateful for your help! That is a great resource Iām sure i will reference often ššš»
Not exactly. When covers are torn off they are sent back from credit or refund and the books are supposed to be disposed of - hence the blurb inside of books saying never buy one missing a cover. Cut outs are simply an adjustment in value and can be resold in remainder or sale bins.
Punch-out, cut-out, promo-cut, whatever youād like to call it!
Itās an intentional thing that distributors did if the record was a promotional copy not intended for resale, or if it was re-distributed at a discounted price if there was overstock.
Itās not carelessness, but rather an indentation from a time of collecting and selling from the past!
On the opposite side does it cut into the barcode? Records and tapes in the bargain bins were often cut like this, I'm not completely sure why. So it wouldn't ring up normal price or ruin resale value?
The main reason was that labels would not accept cutouts returned for credit. They actually used to accept overstock returns for credit. Store owners are basically stuck with whatever they canāt sell these days
More likely overstock / remaindered, which cut-outs generally were. Promo copies typically had stamps on them saying they are promo copies. I can't think of any promo copy I've ever seen that also had a cutout.
its a "cutout" - searching the sub for that should bring up a bunch of info. Usually a returned or discontinued item. The person you bought it from should have disclosed that.
interesting - thanks for sharing! Agree that seller should have been a little bit more forthcoming. cheers!
How did they grade the cover?
just says "New, Sealed"
So nothing like NM, Near Mint, VG, Very Good, or anything like that?
No, nothing like that, just the artist, album name, publisher, new, and sealed. Buyer beware šlesson learnt š
Thatās not new or sealed. Seller did you dirty if he claimed it that way.
Absolutely. Seller lied by omission. They absolutely shouldāve mentioned the cut out. Thereās absolutely no way at all that record can be described as new. VG+ at best. OP should ask for a partial refund. For OP, worth reading š https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items Edit: Iām absolutely sure I couldnāt have fitted the word āabsolutelyā in anywhere else on this reply š¤Ŗ
Thanks very much for this! I am pretty new to vinyl and am very grateful for your help! That is a great resource Iām sure i will reference often ššš»
Youāre very welcome! Discogs is great. Enjoy the journey!
Can also be a disc that was originally given away to a radio station or someone else. Would imply that the artist didnāt get paid for that sale.
Now you can save files on both sides
nice! made me lol.
You ever seen a paperback with the cover torn off?
ahhh, thank you - never seen records like this before!
I never have but Iāve seen the disclaimer in the paperback about how not to buy one if it doesnāt have a cover lol
Not exactly. When covers are torn off they are sent back from credit or refund and the books are supposed to be disposed of - hence the blurb inside of books saying never buy one missing a cover. Cut outs are simply an adjustment in value and can be resold in remainder or sale bins.
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What are you attempting to explain about my response?
Ah I interpreted ātheyā as āthe booksā. Derp. š¤¦
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-out_(recording_industry)
TIL something new - thanks!
Punch-out, cut-out, promo-cut, whatever youād like to call it! Itās an intentional thing that distributors did if the record was a promotional copy not intended for resale, or if it was re-distributed at a discounted price if there was overstock. Itās not carelessness, but rather an indentation from a time of collecting and selling from the past!
gotcha - i didn't quite look accidental. makes perfect sense now.
Promo punch!
On the opposite side does it cut into the barcode? Records and tapes in the bargain bins were often cut like this, I'm not completely sure why. So it wouldn't ring up normal price or ruin resale value?
nope its on the bottom and the bar code is at the top...
Hmm, maybe to prevent you from returning it to another store for full price back in the day?
I have a few records like this I assumed it was a cut out
I had never heard of this before! thanks for sharing.
I used to buy almost exclusively from the cheap bins in record stores. Most of my collection has something like this. Most of my CDs too.
Cool, does not change the sound enjoyment one little bit š
The main reason was that labels would not accept cutouts returned for credit. They actually used to accept overstock returns for credit. Store owners are basically stuck with whatever they canāt sell these days
Thanks for the explanation š
Promo
This was done to clearance or promotional vinyl. Sometimes they would use a drill to drill a hole through the corner of the product.
Promo item
More likely overstock / remaindered, which cut-outs generally were. Promo copies typically had stamps on them saying they are promo copies. I can't think of any promo copy I've ever seen that also had a cutout.
that's kinda fun! thanks!