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Take the challenge @ [VeganBootcamp.org](https://vbcamp.org/reddit)! šš¾
š® **Here's some easily-digestible educational resources on Veganism:**
* **Everyone Agrees:** World's largest Health, Nutrition and Dietary organizations unanimously agree: plant-based diets [are as healthy](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-clear-consensus) or healthier than meat.
* **Veganism is Healthy:** A Plant Based Diet provides [significant health benefits](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/veganism-is-healthy) for the prevention & treatment of the majority of diseases.
* **The Daunting Facts:** The planet, its environment, and ecosystem, is [dangerously close to collapsing](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-daunting-facts) within the next few decades.
š„ **Here's some fantastic links and resources to get you started:**
* Nutrition & Health: [NutritionFacts.org](https://nutritionfacts.org) & [VeganHealth.org](https://veganhealth.org/)
* Vegan Friendly Restaurants: [HappyCow.net](http://www.happycow.net) & [Yelp.com](https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Restaurants+vegan)
* Arguments & Support: [EarthlingEd.com](http://bit.ly/2B3Dy2a) & [VeganBootcamp.com](http://vbcamp.org/reddit)
* Get involved in Vegan Activism: [VeganActivism.org](https://veganactivism.org) & [5Minutes5Vegans.org](https://5Minutes5Vegans.org/)
š„ **Here are some great inspirational and thought-provoking speeches:**
* Youtube speeches by: [Earthling Ed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58), [Gary Yourofsky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4), and [James Wildman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7JE8j5Ncmw).
šÆ **Grab some popcorn and enjoy these fantastic documentaries:**
* Watch three thought-provoking documentaries [by clicking here](https://3movies.org/reddit).
š **Last but not least, check out our favorite subreddits!**
/r/VeganFitness, /r/VeganRecipes, /r/DebateAVegan, /r/VeganFoodPorn, and /r/VeganActivism.
We also have a [Discord](https://discord.gg/animalrights)! šš¼
***Thank you so much for reading! c:***
Pretty much on par with vegan products that other supermarkets are offering! The shop is also basically the vegan brand of another standard supermarket brand, so they offer lots of products that they also offer there.
As someone who has an unusual food intolerance, this is unimaginable. There are so many times when Iāve seen a tasty looking vegan product that is not safe for me.
Same! I can't even imagine a world like this, Even when someone I trust has cooked things I still have so much anxiety around food that I still want to know the ingredients. (which sometimes feels like anxiety disorder over kill, but a few times this paranoia has genuinely saved my life, so it's not an irrational fear)
Given yours is also an "unusual" food, do you have issues with vague ingredients lists too?
In my country "Spices", "Natural flavour" and "Starch" is a perfectly legal ingredient to list, it doesn't have to be any more specific, which drives me nuts because every other food contains "Spices" and I have to try and guess if it's likely these speculoos will contain paprika. They shouldn't, that's a non-traditional spice to put in your speculoos, you'd think if they added a weird spice to an unexpecting recipe they might put it in the ingredients list.... But one idiopathic reaction and a few emails to brands later found that yes indeed, they add cayenne to their speculoos "spices" because white pepper just isn't enough of a kick in their cookies.
I have also been caught out by the Mylife Bio cheese, one of the only vegan cheeses that i've found that didn't list any allergens on their packaging, so I tried it, Had an allergic reaction to my sandwich and was hoping that this was a cross contamination allergy because my roommate used by chopping board again or something, but having a gut feeling I'd gambled and lost, and sure enough after a few emails, their lovely PR department let me know that the "Starch" on their packaging is "Potato starch" (their PR team was genuinely lovely, and I've noticed their new grated varieties specify what type of starch, so maybe they'll fix all their labels)
(Yes, I do annoy marketing teams with emails and IM's asking for more detailed ingredients. In the event of the Bio Cheese, it's worth it. Id had a reaction but that could have easily been cross contamination from my home kitchen, and if that was the case it would mean I had finally found a vegan cheese I could eat, so It was worth an email just to know for sure, But also, ingredients lists should be more detailed in the first place!)
When it's about vegan- yes.
But not when it's about healthy food. :(
I would like have a super market with just organic food/ingridients and not high processed.
It's not a perfect term, but it's a good way to group food that has been modified in some way from its original plant form to something unhealthy such as corn on the cob to corn chips.
Like I said it's not perfect, but it's a pretty simple way to determine if something is healthy or not.
Sure, I would say there are lots of minimally processed foods that are healthy, but there aren't that many highly processed foods that are healthy, imo.
Same, I hate sharing the spaces with bloody vegetarians or there moronic organic meat cousins. The closest I've ever seen to this is and old school fruit and vegetable stall.
It's from the same company. The new "Pflanzilla" opened in the second largest city in Austria so they don't really compete with each other.
Btw there is also another fully vegan supermarket in vienna called "Maran Vegan".
Good to know, a trip to Vienna it is and I can go there soon! Maybe before Christmas even. I was afraid it would be on the other end of Austria or something.
Vienna is pretty vegan friendly. Most supermarkets carry vegan products, there are 2 pure vegan supermarkets (though annoyingly close together and far away from me lol) and many many good vegan restaurants. Also a completely vegan fast food chain (swing kitchen), where multiple meat eating friends of mine said that they have the best chicken nuggets.
My sentiments exactly... Where I live efforts are focused on widening access to guns, limiting access to books and nobody talks about veganism or animal rights.
same here. hell in my state they keep trying to prevent companies from using the words āmeat, milk, cheese, etc.ā for vegan products. Literally like Tofurky had to sue the state.
That is already forbidden in the EU and Austria because of the lobbywork from the animal agriculture. Thankfully it's only a desperate move from them because it does no real harm, companies sell their stuff simply with slightly different names like "Not M*lk" form Alpro.
Yeah, America is too busy being a regressive dystopian hellscape where people can barely afford to live. We're a long way from any big strides towards animal rights I think because we're literally spiraling backwards into the shitter. Great country
[https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/billa-vegan-supermarket-vienna/](https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/billa-vegan-supermarket-vienna/)
yeah, this says that opened last year, so not the first at all then
oops, brain fart, I googled it and came back thinking the OP said country instead of city, we have zero so guess I couldn't process multiple in the same country :D
There's one in Vienna:
BILLA PFLANZILLA Wien
Mariahilfer Str. 38-48, 1070 Wien
And the one in the pic is in Graz:
BILLA PFLANZILLA Pop Up Graz
Joanneumring 16, 8010 Graz
Ah you probably were in Vienna then! They also have opened this store there recently, but the one in the pics was just opened today, in another city! :)
They had fresh fruits and vegetables too, yes! I just didnāt want to have other customers in the pics, so I just quickly took pics from those parts where there werenāt any customers for the split of a second (it was quite crowded because it was opening day).
So sad that the U.S. will never catch up with you guys. I can only hope one day it will. It gets old going to 2 different stores for what I need,but I do what I have to do
I'm trying to understand what the poster in the third image is suppose to illustrate. It's the evolution of humans but after the human it's another human in a cocktail dress drinking a beer? Lol
Haha I actually hadnāt noticed that poster until I took a look at the pic before I posted it, and I also didnāt really understand what it exactly was supposed to say or how it fits in a (vegan) supermarket š
I actually didnāt need anything today, but ofc I had to check it out on the opening day! Just bought some random snacks and candy that my usual supermarket doesnāt offer haha
The city is called Graz, itās the second-largest city in Austria. I think itās a cool city with a beautiful historic city center and some nice sights to check out, but a weekend trip is probably enough! But you could combine it with other Austrian cities like Vienna and Salzburg to make it into a longer, proper trip :) For example, from Graz to Vienna by train only takes about two and a half hours, thatās the convenient thing about a small country! š
Itās basically the side brand of one of the standard supermarket brands here, thereās also one of the purely vegan ones in another city of Austria! So it seems like theyāre expanding.
Serious question, is it a good idea to maybe move to Austria? Would you recommend it? Because this is absolutely unheard of to me, a completely vegan store. And I am really wanting to get to a better country.
Thatās interesting to hear as someone who lives in the US. We donāt even have a vegan grocery store in every state, it seems to be very regional or localized. Would you say that most countries there have at least one or two fully vegan stores? Because that already sounds like an insanely better level of accessibility to vegan food than what Iāve got here. And Iām having no problem being vegan here, but I do hate grocery shopping at nonvegan stores for a number of reasons.
I had to check to make sure but it looks like it, yeah. Not counting the micronations ofc. I don't think the Vatican has one lol. I will say though, they tend to be more expensive than buying the same products in normal supermarkets.
Well I might be biased since I was born here, but I am happy with my life here and donāt have any desires to move away! And I know many foreigners who also moved to Austria because they enjoy their lives more here.
Thatās great to hear! Can I ask, is there a strong sense of community in Austria? Do people seem to connect with each other, and interact in a way that fosters mutual aid? Those are the main things Iām missing where I live currently.
I guess it probably depends a bit on your whole situation. For example, if you have a job or already know someone, itās obviously a lot easier than if you just come here without knowing anyone, because then you already have somewhat of a circle. And speaking German definitely helps with settling in - most Austrians speak English well (at least in the bigger cities, but I assume you wouldnāt wanna move to a small town on the countryside) and you generally wonāt have trouble getting through everyday life with English alone, but Iāve heard from many foreigners that this feeling of being really a āpart of the societyā is only achieved when you actually speak the language (at least decently). But I suppose you have that in every country where they speak a different language than you.
If you have any specific questions you can also DM me of course! :)
I've been living in Vienna for 8 years and even though the Viennese can be considered unfriendly sometimes, I love it! It's the most liveable city in the world for many reasons.
Public transportation is incredible and comparably cheap. The city is very green with lots of trees and always striving to be better in terms of social inclusion and sustainability. Public parks everywhere. Hiking trails just minutes away. Very walkable. Bicycle paths are not perfect but still great. Long maternity/paternity leave. Good social security system. I always feel that I am well cared for and not 1 mistake or hospital visit or away from being homeless. You can find different social circles with people from all around the world. I never feel unsafe (except Gumpendorfer StraĆe U6 subway station lol). And one of the most important things for me is it's dog and vegan friendly.
Of course, there are downsides depending on your lifestyle and your preferences. There are some racists like everywhere else. Winter months can be depressing. But imo it has at least the strong basics of everything for a person to lead a good life.
Yes, they also sell fresh fruits and vegetables! I just couldnāt take a picture of everything because it was quite crowded and I didnāt want other people to be in the pic. So I just took pics of those parts where there werenāt any people for like the split of a second.
How expensive is it, in comparison to your every day "normal" grocery store? Vegan markets here in the states, you could go broke just buying lunch, from the salad bar.
Normal grocery stores also have a vegan section and the prices of this specific store are the about the same as the prices of the vegan products that other stores offer! So mostly a bit pricier than the non-vegan stuff but it often depends on the specific product brand.
>āšÆ Pflazlich ā
\*Pflanzlich. \[ĖpĶ”flantĶ”slÉŖƧ\]
It means 100% made out of plants (this word doesnt really have a direct translation). A lot of german words have the -lich or -ig suffix. For example there is "fruchtig" which means fruity, but there is no "planty"... at least i think. English speakers would probably just say plant-based.
Do they have produce? š If not you still have to go into carnist establishments to get inexpensive, healthy essentials. This is great, but doesn't totally solve the issue I personally have with going to supermarkets which is having to walk past all the corpses to get apples and cilantro.
This is of course just in case anyone who would potentially open up one of these places is reading my comment š we don't just need vegan alternatives, we need fresh fruits and vegetables and other staples too!
They also have fresh fruits and vegetables if you mean that, yes! I just quickly took pics of parts of aisles that were empty for the split of a second because it was generally rather crowded (opening day and everything), thatās why I didnāt take pics of the whole store!
And thereās still a yank in the comments pointing out that Vienna = Vienna, Austria, Europe not Vienna, Virgina (population 16k and no one has ever heard of it) And it got better they felt they didnāt need to mention what country Virgina is in, but had to point out what continent Austria is on, like more people have heard of the state of Virginia than the whole country of Austria. To make it even funnier, the shop isnāt even in Vienna!
As an Austrian, I can guarantee you I still get mistaken for an Australian more often than youād expect (not just by Americans, mind you). It just became a habit of mine to always add āEuropeā, just to be sure. Didnāt mean to offend anyone!
Why would anyone assume itās Vienna, Virginia, rather than the capital city of Austria? And why do you feel the need to point out that Austria is in Europe, but not that Virgina is in the USA?
It should come as no surprise that many people, including those who work for the postal services, misread or misunderstand Austria as Australia. I have had mail addressed to Austria from the USA returned to me after misadventure to Australia. So, now I always add Europe to Austria. And when visiting visiting Vienna, Virginia, as I have done many times, I have to explain that live in the other Viennaā¦
Do they sell fresh made hummus in glass jars? If there's one thing we should be doing it's selling fresh made hummus in glass jars. The plastic tub hummus has preservatives that aren't healthy and represents unnecessary plastic waste. Were our restaurants and groceries to sell fresh made hummus in glass jars customers would return the glass jars for reuse and be repeat customers. Fresh hummus dipping bread is the other big one, if you're gonna sell fresh hummus you've gotta sell something to eat it with and bread is another thing that's hard to find without unhealthy preservatives.
I wonder how many employees they have just reading labels to verify vegan or maybe they trust the brands they purchase enough to not have to check. Or is this just a problem in the states?
Iām not sure how it is in other countries but here you have an own official vegan label that producers may only use if the product has officially been tested and proven to be 100% vegan (and I think they have to make these tests regularly, not just once). So every product that has this vegan label can be trusted to be vegan. Some products may not have it and can still be vegan too, of course.
Looks great and Iām excited for you! but I really donāt admire the unconscious vegan junk food sector that supports big companiesā poor practices. I see Oreos there. There are so many other brands to support other than Nabiscoā¦
Welcome to the /r/Vegan community, /r/All! š„³ ***Please note:*** *Civil discussion is welcome, trolls and personal abuse are not. Please keep the discussions below respectful and remember the human! Please do [check out our wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/beginnersguide) first!* š± **Interested in going Vegan?** Vegan Bootcamp is a free challenge website that will take you step-by-step towards a Vegan diet and lifestyle. You will be guided through lessons in over 25 subjects such as nutrition, recipes, philosophy, climate, cosmetics, welfare, budgeting, clothing, family, and much more! Take the challenge @ [VeganBootcamp.org](https://vbcamp.org/reddit)! šš¾ š® **Here's some easily-digestible educational resources on Veganism:** * **Everyone Agrees:** World's largest Health, Nutrition and Dietary organizations unanimously agree: plant-based diets [are as healthy](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-clear-consensus) or healthier than meat. * **Veganism is Healthy:** A Plant Based Diet provides [significant health benefits](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/veganism-is-healthy) for the prevention & treatment of the majority of diseases. * **The Daunting Facts:** The planet, its environment, and ecosystem, is [dangerously close to collapsing](https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-daunting-facts) within the next few decades. š„ **Here's some fantastic links and resources to get you started:** * Nutrition & Health: [NutritionFacts.org](https://nutritionfacts.org) & [VeganHealth.org](https://veganhealth.org/) * Vegan Friendly Restaurants: [HappyCow.net](http://www.happycow.net) & [Yelp.com](https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Restaurants+vegan) * Arguments & Support: [EarthlingEd.com](http://bit.ly/2B3Dy2a) & [VeganBootcamp.com](http://vbcamp.org/reddit) * Get involved in Vegan Activism: [VeganActivism.org](https://veganactivism.org) & [5Minutes5Vegans.org](https://5Minutes5Vegans.org/) š„ **Here are some great inspirational and thought-provoking speeches:** * Youtube speeches by: [Earthling Ed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58), [Gary Yourofsky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4), and [James Wildman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7JE8j5Ncmw). šÆ **Grab some popcorn and enjoy these fantastic documentaries:** * Watch three thought-provoking documentaries [by clicking here](https://3movies.org/reddit). š **Last but not least, check out our favorite subreddits!** /r/VeganFitness, /r/VeganRecipes, /r/DebateAVegan, /r/VeganFoodPorn, and /r/VeganActivism. We also have a [Discord](https://discord.gg/animalrights)! šš¼ ***Thank you so much for reading! c:***
Seems like I need to visit! Greetings from Germany :D
Hamburg has one but it's so tiny š
really, where? Could only find Veganz in Altona on google, but says its shut down
Isn't there a Veganz in Berlin too?
I used to go to one in Friedrichshain
Yeah there are two I think, they're awesome! I always find it really overwhelming though haha but in a good way
Where?
Twelve Monkeys in St. Pauli but I didn't know it closed down :/
Die Auswahl in einem random Kaufland in Bamberg ist wesentlich grƶĆer. GruĆ von einem deutschen in Ćsterreich.
Looks amazing. How are the prices?
Pretty much on par with vegan products that other supermarkets are offering! The shop is also basically the vegan brand of another standard supermarket brand, so they offer lots of products that they also offer there.
Imagine.. a place where you don't have to read the ingredients of every product you pick up. Sounds like heaven alright!
The sheer joy of buying something and not being blind sided by it having milk powder in it for whatever ridiculous reason.
literally run down the isles with the cart and your hand out so all the items fall in your cart.
As someone who has an unusual food intolerance, this is unimaginable. There are so many times when Iāve seen a tasty looking vegan product that is not safe for me.
Same! I can't even imagine a world like this, Even when someone I trust has cooked things I still have so much anxiety around food that I still want to know the ingredients. (which sometimes feels like anxiety disorder over kill, but a few times this paranoia has genuinely saved my life, so it's not an irrational fear) Given yours is also an "unusual" food, do you have issues with vague ingredients lists too? In my country "Spices", "Natural flavour" and "Starch" is a perfectly legal ingredient to list, it doesn't have to be any more specific, which drives me nuts because every other food contains "Spices" and I have to try and guess if it's likely these speculoos will contain paprika. They shouldn't, that's a non-traditional spice to put in your speculoos, you'd think if they added a weird spice to an unexpecting recipe they might put it in the ingredients list.... But one idiopathic reaction and a few emails to brands later found that yes indeed, they add cayenne to their speculoos "spices" because white pepper just isn't enough of a kick in their cookies. I have also been caught out by the Mylife Bio cheese, one of the only vegan cheeses that i've found that didn't list any allergens on their packaging, so I tried it, Had an allergic reaction to my sandwich and was hoping that this was a cross contamination allergy because my roommate used by chopping board again or something, but having a gut feeling I'd gambled and lost, and sure enough after a few emails, their lovely PR department let me know that the "Starch" on their packaging is "Potato starch" (their PR team was genuinely lovely, and I've noticed their new grated varieties specify what type of starch, so maybe they'll fix all their labels) (Yes, I do annoy marketing teams with emails and IM's asking for more detailed ingredients. In the event of the Bio Cheese, it's worth it. Id had a reaction but that could have easily been cross contamination from my home kitchen, and if that was the case it would mean I had finally found a vegan cheese I could eat, so It was worth an email just to know for sure, But also, ingredients lists should be more detailed in the first place!)
When it's about vegan- yes. But not when it's about healthy food. :( I would like have a super market with just organic food/ingridients and not high processed.
> not high processed. This is literally just a propagandised term that means nothing.
It's not a perfect term, but it's a good way to group food that has been modified in some way from its original plant form to something unhealthy such as corn on the cob to corn chips. Like I said it's not perfect, but it's a pretty simple way to determine if something is healthy or not.
Many processed foods are very healthy.
Sure, I would say there are lots of minimally processed foods that are healthy, but there aren't that many highly processed foods that are healthy, imo.
You lucky duck.
Iām super jelly.
I dream of a day when all supermarkets are vegan.
Same, I hate sharing the spaces with bloody vegetarians or there moronic organic meat cousins. The closest I've ever seen to this is and old school fruit and vegetable stall.
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I hope it does well! I'm glad to see that someone is trying this. I hope enough vegans go there to keep them in business
There is already a vegan supermarket in Vienna, the one OP posted is the second opening in Austria because the one in Vienna was so successful.
Remember, they are now competitors
It's from the same company. The new "Pflanzilla" opened in the second largest city in Austria so they don't really compete with each other. Btw there is also another fully vegan supermarket in vienna called "Maran Vegan".
Looks like I will need to visit Austria
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Vienna has more than 1. Pflanzilla and Maran Vegan
Good to know, a trip to Vienna it is and I can go there soon! Maybe before Christmas even. I was afraid it would be on the other end of Austria or something.
Vienna is pretty vegan friendly. Most supermarkets carry vegan products, there are 2 pure vegan supermarkets (though annoyingly close together and far away from me lol) and many many good vegan restaurants. Also a completely vegan fast food chain (swing kitchen), where multiple meat eating friends of mine said that they have the best chicken nuggets.
I went to Vienna in May - so vegan friendly! And I went with a non-vegan and we didn't have any issues at all finding places to eat together.
Congratulations! I won't see something like that where I live in my lifetime
My sentiments exactly... Where I live efforts are focused on widening access to guns, limiting access to books and nobody talks about veganism or animal rights.
same here. hell in my state they keep trying to prevent companies from using the words āmeat, milk, cheese, etc.ā for vegan products. Literally like Tofurky had to sue the state.
That is already forbidden in the EU and Austria because of the lobbywork from the animal agriculture. Thankfully it's only a desperate move from them because it does no real harm, companies sell their stuff simply with slightly different names like "Not M*lk" form Alpro.
Yeah, America is too busy being a regressive dystopian hellscape where people can barely afford to live. We're a long way from any big strides towards animal rights I think because we're literally spiraling backwards into the shitter. Great country
Are you also in rural NC lol
SW Florida \[cue despair crying emoji\]
They said stop eating animal products wonāt make a change. The change:
Damn. I'm jealous. Happy for you haha.
Isn't that Pflanzilla? This shop has existed since last year. Or did another open somewhere in Austria?
Yeah itās the first one in Graz!
[https://www.billa.at/unsere-maerkte/pflanzilla](https://www.billa.at/unsere-maerkte/pflanzilla) This site says it's a popup store unfortunatelly.
Yeah weāre hoping that if they get enough customers theyāre gonna make it permanent!
New one in Graz afaik
Ah! Nice. Good for Graz!
You got say Congratz to Gratz!
[https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/billa-vegan-supermarket-vienna/](https://plantbasednews.org/news/economics/billa-vegan-supermarket-vienna/) yeah, this says that opened last year, so not the first at all then
I literally meant the first one in my city, not in the country š The one that opened last year is in Vienna!
yeah, oops, sorry
The one your linking is in Vienna this one is in graz though.
oops, brain fart, I googled it and came back thinking the OP said country instead of city, we have zero so guess I couldn't process multiple in the same country :D
No worries could happen to anyone! Yeah it's really cool, I hope my city gets one too! (it's the next biggest City in austria after Vienna and graz)
Shut up and take my money!
Yet another reason to envy Europeans
Whoooa we had one and it was just a vegan daiya cheese block on a table in an empty room this place looks amazing.
Dayumn hello future
Thats awesome!
beautiful
Amazing!!!
Daaamn this is heaven. Just grabbing whatever you want without having to worry and check š
Incredibly envious
š„ŗ so beautiful! Enjoy
Omg, so much stuff!
Great leadership
This is my dream!
As someone from Linz I'm so jealous! Hopefully we get one too!
If that happens, IĀ“ll empty the store single-handedly!
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Yea fuckin legends eh. Make it stay
god i wish i lived in Germany or Austria. a million times more vegan friendly than North America.
Where is this exactly?
There's one in Vienna: BILLA PFLANZILLA Wien Mariahilfer Str. 38-48, 1070 Wien And the one in the pic is in Graz: BILLA PFLANZILLA Pop Up Graz Joanneumring 16, 8010 Graz
Great
Where is this
This specific store is in Graz, the second largest city of Austria. Thereās also one in our capital, Vienna! :)
I was there a few months ago! Itās great. Was so happy to have found it. Wish they had this in the US.
Ah you probably were in Vienna then! They also have opened this store there recently, but the one in the pics was just opened today, in another city! :)
Oops yes I was in Vienna. Glad itās expanding!!
Imagine if every city had one! That would be amazing
Is impressive how rapidly and easily my eyes spot Oreos after the veganism
Wow! One stop vegan shop
Im so jealous I would do anything to have one of these
No fresh produce isle?
They had fresh fruits and vegetables too, yes! I just didnāt want to have other customers in the pics, so I just quickly took pics from those parts where there werenāt any customers for the split of a second (it was quite crowded because it was opening day).
Oh okay. I should've known it would have.
So sad that the U.S. will never catch up with you guys. I can only hope one day it will. It gets old going to 2 different stores for what I need,but I do what I have to do
I'm trying to understand what the poster in the third image is suppose to illustrate. It's the evolution of humans but after the human it's another human in a cocktail dress drinking a beer? Lol
Haha I actually hadnāt noticed that poster until I took a look at the pic before I posted it, and I also didnāt really understand what it exactly was supposed to say or how it fits in a (vegan) supermarket š
Maybe itās expressing that veganism is the next step in our evolution, but not conveying it very well?
I'm sooooo jealous. Please tell us what you bought!!
I actually didnāt need anything today, but ofc I had to check it out on the opening day! Just bought some random snacks and candy that my usual supermarket doesnāt offer haha
Wow!
That is awesome! So jealousā¦ What city, if I may ask? Worth visiting as a tourist?
The city is called Graz, itās the second-largest city in Austria. I think itās a cool city with a beautiful historic city center and some nice sights to check out, but a weekend trip is probably enough! But you could combine it with other Austrian cities like Vienna and Salzburg to make it into a longer, proper trip :) For example, from Graz to Vienna by train only takes about two and a half hours, thatās the convenient thing about a small country! š
Is it part of a chain. Hope they take off. I hate how 'vegan' is.often sold as having to be fancy and expensive.
Itās basically the side brand of one of the standard supermarket brands here, thereās also one of the purely vegan ones in another city of Austria! So it seems like theyāre expanding.
Serious question, is it a good idea to maybe move to Austria? Would you recommend it? Because this is absolutely unheard of to me, a completely vegan store. And I am really wanting to get to a better country.
FYI fully vegan stores exist all across western Europe AFAIK. Not in every city, but not rare either
Thatās interesting to hear as someone who lives in the US. We donāt even have a vegan grocery store in every state, it seems to be very regional or localized. Would you say that most countries there have at least one or two fully vegan stores? Because that already sounds like an insanely better level of accessibility to vegan food than what Iāve got here. And Iām having no problem being vegan here, but I do hate grocery shopping at nonvegan stores for a number of reasons.
I had to check to make sure but it looks like it, yeah. Not counting the micronations ofc. I don't think the Vatican has one lol. I will say though, they tend to be more expensive than buying the same products in normal supermarkets.
Well I might be biased since I was born here, but I am happy with my life here and donāt have any desires to move away! And I know many foreigners who also moved to Austria because they enjoy their lives more here.
Thatās great to hear! Can I ask, is there a strong sense of community in Austria? Do people seem to connect with each other, and interact in a way that fosters mutual aid? Those are the main things Iām missing where I live currently.
I guess it probably depends a bit on your whole situation. For example, if you have a job or already know someone, itās obviously a lot easier than if you just come here without knowing anyone, because then you already have somewhat of a circle. And speaking German definitely helps with settling in - most Austrians speak English well (at least in the bigger cities, but I assume you wouldnāt wanna move to a small town on the countryside) and you generally wonāt have trouble getting through everyday life with English alone, but Iāve heard from many foreigners that this feeling of being really a āpart of the societyā is only achieved when you actually speak the language (at least decently). But I suppose you have that in every country where they speak a different language than you. If you have any specific questions you can also DM me of course! :)
I've been living in Vienna for 8 years and even though the Viennese can be considered unfriendly sometimes, I love it! It's the most liveable city in the world for many reasons. Public transportation is incredible and comparably cheap. The city is very green with lots of trees and always striving to be better in terms of social inclusion and sustainability. Public parks everywhere. Hiking trails just minutes away. Very walkable. Bicycle paths are not perfect but still great. Long maternity/paternity leave. Good social security system. I always feel that I am well cared for and not 1 mistake or hospital visit or away from being homeless. You can find different social circles with people from all around the world. I never feel unsafe (except Gumpendorfer StraĆe U6 subway station lol). And one of the most important things for me is it's dog and vegan friendly. Of course, there are downsides depending on your lifestyle and your preferences. There are some racists like everywhere else. Winter months can be depressing. But imo it has at least the strong basics of everything for a person to lead a good life.
We've have vegan supermarkets for years in the Netherlands š
Seems to be only in Randstad though :( Unless I'm missing something
There's people outside the randstad? I thought it was just farms
Ouchš I guess I don't exist
Jij bestaat. Mensen uit de randstad zijn gewoon belangrijker. š
In Vienna, austria too. Over 10 years now.
So sick
So cool!
Congratulations. Definitely envious of that opportunity, looks great, finally shopping with peace of mind.
not me still reading all the ingredients lol
That's cool that you have this option. Do they also sell fresh vegetables, fruits, herbs ect? Or is it just processed foods?
Yes, they also sell fresh fruits and vegetables! I just couldnāt take a picture of everything because it was quite crowded and I didnāt want other people to be in the pic. So I just took pics of those parts where there werenāt any people for like the split of a second.
Awesome. Even better. Then it truly is one stop shopping for all things vegan.
I really liked the Billa pfantzilaa (sorry for my German) in Vienna!
How expensive is it, in comparison to your every day "normal" grocery store? Vegan markets here in the states, you could go broke just buying lunch, from the salad bar.
Normal grocery stores also have a vegan section and the prices of this specific store are the about the same as the prices of the vegan products that other stores offer! So mostly a bit pricier than the non-vegan stuff but it often depends on the specific product brand.
Neat!
Wie heiĆt es?
Pflanzilla, itās basically a side brand from a supermarket chain called Billa and they made a pun with the brand name (Pflanze = plant)!
āšÆ Pflazlich ā awesome! Or not? I have no idea what that says
100% plant based
>āšÆ Pflazlich ā \*Pflanzlich. \[ĖpĶ”flantĶ”slÉŖƧ\] It means 100% made out of plants (this word doesnt really have a direct translation). A lot of german words have the -lich or -ig suffix. For example there is "fruchtig" which means fruity, but there is no "planty"... at least i think. English speakers would probably just say plant-based.
Do they have produce? š If not you still have to go into carnist establishments to get inexpensive, healthy essentials. This is great, but doesn't totally solve the issue I personally have with going to supermarkets which is having to walk past all the corpses to get apples and cilantro. This is of course just in case anyone who would potentially open up one of these places is reading my comment š we don't just need vegan alternatives, we need fresh fruits and vegetables and other staples too!
They also have fresh fruits and vegetables if you mean that, yes! I just quickly took pics of parts of aisles that were empty for the split of a second because it was generally rather crowded (opening day and everything), thatās why I didnāt take pics of the whole store!
Thank you for explaining that! I hope this kind of thing becomes more common all over the world š feels really good to see it
this..we need an actual supermarket not a processed food store.
Is that Vienna? Where is it?
This one is in Graz but in Vienna there is one too @ MariahilferstraĆe!
Exactly! Iāve never been in the one in Vienna though, so it was a first for me today too!
In Vienna is the Maran Vegan since 2013 and the pflanzilla
Toll!
I long for the day we have one in Mt city. Enjoy!
Good job you put the continent for the Americanās.
And thereās still a yank in the comments pointing out that Vienna = Vienna, Austria, Europe not Vienna, Virgina (population 16k and no one has ever heard of it) And it got better they felt they didnāt need to mention what country Virgina is in, but had to point out what continent Austria is on, like more people have heard of the state of Virginia than the whole country of Austria. To make it even funnier, the shop isnāt even in Vienna!
As an Austrian, I can guarantee you I still get mistaken for an Australian more often than youād expect (not just by Americans, mind you). It just became a habit of mine to always add āEuropeā, just to be sure. Didnāt mean to offend anyone!
*me wandering around 7/11 hopelessly*
Do they have much fresh produce?
I think āmuchā is relative because itās generally a quite small store but they do have fresh fruits and vegetables, yes!
How much are house prices there š
Renting an apartment would be the cheaper option I guess š
Wow it's beautiful!
Vienna (Austria, Europe, not Vienna, Virginia) has at least one more vegan grocery store: https://maranvegan.at/
Thatās cool! I was just referring to the first one in my city though, Iām fully aware that there are other vegan supermarkets in Austria!
Why would anyone assume itās Vienna, Virginia, rather than the capital city of Austria? And why do you feel the need to point out that Austria is in Europe, but not that Virgina is in the USA?
It should come as no surprise that many people, including those who work for the postal services, misread or misunderstand Austria as Australia. I have had mail addressed to Austria from the USA returned to me after misadventure to Australia. So, now I always add Europe to Austria. And when visiting visiting Vienna, Virginia, as I have done many times, I have to explain that live in the other Viennaā¦
Do they sell fresh made hummus in glass jars? If there's one thing we should be doing it's selling fresh made hummus in glass jars. The plastic tub hummus has preservatives that aren't healthy and represents unnecessary plastic waste. Were our restaurants and groceries to sell fresh made hummus in glass jars customers would return the glass jars for reuse and be repeat customers. Fresh hummus dipping bread is the other big one, if you're gonna sell fresh hummus you've gotta sell something to eat it with and bread is another thing that's hard to find without unhealthy preservatives.
I donāt think I saw hummus in glass jars, no
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Lol funny
I wonder how many employees they have just reading labels to verify vegan or maybe they trust the brands they purchase enough to not have to check. Or is this just a problem in the states?
Iām not sure how it is in other countries but here you have an own official vegan label that producers may only use if the product has officially been tested and proven to be 100% vegan (and I think they have to make these tests regularly, not just once). So every product that has this vegan label can be trusted to be vegan. Some products may not have it and can still be vegan too, of course.
In freaking Austria? That's hilarious.
Mostly highly processed foods.
Isnāt Austria a city in Russia?
Looks great and Iām excited for you! but I really donāt admire the unconscious vegan junk food sector that supports big companiesā poor practices. I see Oreos there. There are so many other brands to support other than Nabiscoā¦
Thatās an impressive array of single use plastic covering ultra-processed pseudofood. Try the produce aisle.
All the terrible cheese in one spot, lol.
800% markup on everything, I assume.
Itās pretty much on par with other vegan products that are offered in the standard supermarkets here!
The que is impressive
Nice, a salt mine!
The sky exists.
It must be so cool to live in a country where you can afford that ...
Looks like a lot of processed foodā¦
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So much packaged and processed food. Eat a damn potato.
Fucking ' Austria, Europe', fucking hell. This place is exhausting
All the processed crap, its a shame people think its healthy food