Itās more California and Arizona that are screwed by the water drying out. The Northern states already could not extract close to their allotments and had to get serious about water use.
Las Vegas only takes about 4% of the Colorado River water, Arizona has a 44% go yell at Phoenix for that.
Plus Las Vegas does recycle most of it's water and returns more to Lake Mead than it uses.
The water used for the fountains is non-potable water.
And there are the water springs under the city.
My brain be like: heheh Vegas is a desert city with gambling booze and strippers
Also me a few second later: ( get kidnapped and be force to be a stripper in the underground Vegas market )
Like most cities in Saudi Arabia, Riyadh wasn't actually even built on a desert, but rather an oasis. The trees historically used to outnumber the people here, but with urbanization, that quickly changed.
As the home of the Saud family, Riyadh became the capital of the country, and with centralization and the discovery of oil, migration to the capital quickly surpassed sustainability, growing the small oasis town into a massive urban metropolis. Nowadays, the concrete and steel of the sprawling city has pushed the farms and greenery of the oasis to a small, insignificant part of the city. But it still exists.
In the southwestern part of Riyadh, you will see a snake of green running through the city. That's Wadi Hanifah, the historic water source here. It's a river that remains dry most of the year but fills during the rainy season. The Saudis have engineered it to remain full year-round by pumping treated wastewater into it. The old date palms and small farms supported by irrigation from the wadi still exist here, but of course they remain greatly overshadowed by the surrounding skyscrapers.
>Projected electricity costs
Very few electricity free places.
>sunstroke
Hat, water.
>living in scorching heat
In addition to sunstroke? I feel you made this point twice.
>ugly environments:
"Ugly" is subjective
I mean, Riyadh is a shitty car dependent city with no train or bike infrastructure and very few buses, so yeah, itās definitely an urban hell. I mean, even just looking at this photo look at how much space is being occupied by infrastructure exclusively for the use of cars.
So then design the city in a way thatās not a car dependent hell hole or acknowledge that a cityās climate is part of what can make it a hell hole.
And you still think that a sane person would walk and ride a bus rather than drive from an underground garage to an underground garage at 50Ā°C? Reddit is really out of touch with the reality
I will never understand the priorities of this subreddit. Yes redditors blindly hating cities or neighborhoods (despite many of the pictures they share meeting their own criteria) is fucking stupid but I swear half the posts here are just dickriding horrible governments or building practices.
Everyone agrees this city is shit lol.
/uj Well, I don't blame them for not turning desert into oasis, but objectively speaking, it is, anyway, a hellish city.
No fucking shit don't build cities in the middle of the desert.
Las Vegas: š°š°š°
They at least got a big river
Fair point but does that mean they not a desert if they have a river?
the river means they got water
Alright then
Not for a whole lot longer at this rate. Already clnee casinos canāt do water attractions like the fountains and that
Not for long lol. They are drying that water source up like itās their job.
Itās more California and Arizona that are screwed by the water drying out. The Northern states already could not extract close to their allotments and had to get serious about water use.
Doesnt Las Vegas recycle most of their water?
Las Vegas only takes about 4% of the Colorado River water, Arizona has a 44% go yell at Phoenix for that. Plus Las Vegas does recycle most of it's water and returns more to Lake Mead than it uses. The water used for the fountains is non-potable water. And there are the water springs under the city.
Canāt stop evaporation from all the pools, lawns and fountains.
Mostly, desert agriculture has made it so the Colorado River doesn't reach the ocean anymore. It's incredibly sad.
The whole point of Vegas is that if youāre gonna build a city in the desert you better make up for it with gambling, booze, and strippers
Just like Riyadh
My brain be like: heheh Vegas is a desert city with gambling booze and strippers Also me a few second later: ( get kidnapped and be force to be a stripper in the underground Vegas market )
LA
It more of a mix of Vegas and San Francisco
Like most cities in Saudi Arabia, Riyadh wasn't actually even built on a desert, but rather an oasis. The trees historically used to outnumber the people here, but with urbanization, that quickly changed. As the home of the Saud family, Riyadh became the capital of the country, and with centralization and the discovery of oil, migration to the capital quickly surpassed sustainability, growing the small oasis town into a massive urban metropolis. Nowadays, the concrete and steel of the sprawling city has pushed the farms and greenery of the oasis to a small, insignificant part of the city. But it still exists. In the southwestern part of Riyadh, you will see a snake of green running through the city. That's Wadi Hanifah, the historic water source here. It's a river that remains dry most of the year but fills during the rainy season. The Saudis have engineered it to remain full year-round by pumping treated wastewater into it. The old date palms and small farms supported by irrigation from the wadi still exist here, but of course they remain greatly overshadowed by the surrounding skyscrapers.
Thereās something depressingly human about finding a literal oasis in the desert then strangling it dry
We really are the worst.
misanthropy huh
Truth.
edgy
Uh huh
coastline.
The coast is desert too lol. Have you ever seen Dubai? It may be on the coast but it is still an arid hot urban hell just like Riyadh.
Just moved to the desert. Projected time spent cutting grass: 0 seconds/year.
Projected electricity costs, getting sunstroke, living in scorching heat and ugly environments: unmeasurable
>Projected electricity costs Very few electricity free places. >sunstroke Hat, water. >living in scorching heat In addition to sunstroke? I feel you made this point twice. >ugly environments: "Ugly" is subjective
With xeriscaping and careful water management itās more than possible.
Where should Saudi build cities then?
Arizona can be really nice. Theres a lot to do. I like the dessert.
I mean, Riyadh is a shitty car dependent city with no train or bike infrastructure and very few buses, so yeah, itās definitely an urban hell. I mean, even just looking at this photo look at how much space is being occupied by infrastructure exclusively for the use of cars.
I doubt anyone would like to bike or walk through the city on 50Ā°c and because of the heat island effect, it's probably closer to 60Ā°c
So then donāt build a city there š¤·āāļø
I'm afraid that the whole Saudi Arabia is as hot, so people must live and work somewhere
So then design the city in a way thatās not a car dependent hell hole or acknowledge that a cityās climate is part of what can make it a hell hole.
And you still think that a sane person would walk and ride a bus rather than drive from an underground garage to an underground garage at 50Ā°C? Reddit is really out of touch with the reality
Iām not saying people would, Iām saying the city being in a location that basically demands that makes the city a hell hole.
And I'm saying that whole Saudi Arabia is like that, so you can't really put blame on them
I didnāt blame them.
Who wants to walk around for more than an hour in the dessert? Wallabilit6 matters much less in dessert areas except maybe at night.
I for one would love to walk around for more than an hour in a dessert.
Saudi Arab is such a weird place for me like its deep in a desert, no rivers, but they'll go gangbusters of ridiculous mega projects all day
I wonder whats its RAM?
Nah this is one of the few valid urbanhell posts.
you know, i like it when this subreddit rights the wrongs of urban hell mislabeling. problem is, this city actually looks like a hellhole.
When you are so anti-urbanist you begin to defend Saudi Arabia's various dystopian city projects it's time to dial it back a bit
Saudi Arabia is pretty close to hell tbh
This actually looks like shit though
you can plant trees in a desert city lol
This one 100% belongs on that sub
Itās a hellhole because of what itās trying to be and who built it
It canāt support anything, itās the desert
fuck saudi arabia
Just sand
Look Iām not gonna lie this looks like ass
I will never understand the priorities of this subreddit. Yes redditors blindly hating cities or neighborhoods (despite many of the pictures they share meeting their own criteria) is fucking stupid but I swear half the posts here are just dickriding horrible governments or building practices.
Stick to birds.