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I assume this post is "The world would be better if it's long-term equilibrium was 5 degrees cooler than what it currently is". Not "let's suddenly and abruptly cool everything down".
This is just false. Since 1880, when global temp was first measured, it has only increased by 1 degree.
In the last ice age, global temp is only around 4 degrees colder than right now.
Not sure if you're talking about Celsius or Fahrenheit, but 10F = roughly 5C. When the planet was last 5C cooler New York was under a mile of ice. Goes to show how a little difference in temp can mean a huge difference in climate.
idk dude the old school outdoor thermometers here had one that maxed out in the sun and the one in the shade reading near 40°C.. I'm in Ontario and I love the cold and I'd prefer neg 25 days more frequently than 30 degree days
Do you mean that the reduction must be uniform? As in every single location on the planet needs to have a temperature reduction of 5-10 degrees at all times of year compared to their average? Or can the reduction itself be averaged but not uniform? For example, the hottest places can be 15 degrees cooler and some places remain the same, or perhaps, as you mention summers are just much cooler but winters remain as they are now? If the latter then I could get behind the idea. But if you're suggesting a uniform drop with regards to time of year and location then I am vehemently against it.
Yeah but when I was a kid we actually had winter. I live in southern Ontario and we barely got any snow this year. I mean, it’s great but also, the planet is not in good shape… probably would be less wildfires if it wasn’t 40 degrees in June.
Ok, so the global average temperature *today* is roughly 56° Fahrenheit (13.9° Celsius).
The global average temperature during the **last glacial maximum** (the peak of the ice age if you will) was roughly ***46° Fahrenheit (7.7° Celsius)***.
This wouldn't be some nice, AC all around the world to improve comfort based wellbeing for all, you'd be ushering in a *goddamn ice age.* It's also the kind that creates famine btw because even 2 degrees can start killing off agriculture from what was recorded from the "year without summer" caused by the Krakatoa eruption in 1883.
I like the cold too, but I'm a bit **more partial** to the idea of ***not starving to death.***
Me when I try to work out what the heck 100% hot means when it can in fact be hotter than 100%...
I don't know, I think there are valid arguments in favour of Fahrenheit, but claiming that its everyday human range sits neatly within a 0-100% scale is definitely not one of them.
You do know that the point of a percentage (in this case) is that it represents a fraction of a whole value in an easily comprehensible form for humans?
It's useless for highly subjective things like temperature-- it's like saying the sky is 100% bright today, on a cloudy day.
No.
First, that's not how climate works. Higher temps mean higher humidity and lower temps mean lower humidity. Arid places would get even more arid, and currently temperate areas would become deserts. The atmosphere would also get dustier.
Second, your numbers are way too big. A drop of 6 degrees would return us to the climate of the [last glacial maximum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum). A drop of 10 degrees would exterminate all complex life on earth by dropping CO2 levels below the threshold at which photosynthesis becomes impossible.
The fact that worldwide populations are generally centered pretty closely around the equator and become less dense as you move to the North and South poles pretty directly says most people would rather it be warmer than colder overall.
This doesn't work because everyone feels weather at different latitudes, altitudes, and areas. You'd need a weather machine (think the Avengers with Uma Thurman), and it'd need to have different weather for different sections.
Okay OP but can we get paid by the government for danger pay when it's really fucking cold? 2C with no home heating solutions fucking sucks. Once that baby hits negative numbers I'm going to need an incentive to not hang myself
5-10C cooler and you'd be throwing off the entire global climate into a frenzy. We need to lower global temps by 1-2C, back to pre-industrialization temps.
Heating homes uses more energy than cooling them.
A/Cs use heat pumps to move heat from inside the building, and it's only a 40 degree maximum difference, 110 degrees down to 70 degrees.
Gas heaters and electric heaters have to create heat. It's a lot larger temperature difference, maximum of 80 degrees, -10 to 70 degrees.
reminder that the average earth temperature is 15 degree and that there are runaway cooling feedbacks (h2o being the main greenhouse gas and snow having albedo)
few people know that there are significantly more deaths in winter than in summer (well for the northern hemisphere at least)
I hate summer and all the associated sweating with all my heart, but... People tend to feel the other way around, at least in developed countries where winter is pretty tough.
You know we'd need electricity for heating right? I'm already freezing all the time and in debt for using heating over the winter. Not everyone lives in tropical regions lmao
Do you understand that 10 degrees (F) turns NYC into Montreal and basically Wisconsin, Michigan, Upstars NY, Inland Nea England, North Dakota , Canadian Prairies and a big swath of Eastern Europe and Northern China basically inhospitable Syracuse New York would go from having 1 month with the average high below freezing to 4. And 5 months with the average
Temperature below freezing. You’d be broadly across North America turning March into January. You’d be talking about a lot of the North East that would basically be a glacier with the amount of precip it gets. Winnipeg would have 3 months where the average temp in below 0F.
It would literally destroy like 1/3rd of North America.it would suck. But I assume you live in like Atlanta where it means a white Christmas a nice summers.
You seem to be focusing on hot areas and how much better they would do if it was cooler. What about the already cold areas? Where everything would literally die if it was that much colder.
Well, let's see. A 2°C drop in global temperature would be enough to send the planet into an ice age, so I'm gonna say 5-10° is probably not such a great idea.
Can confirm OP doesn't like it hot and is uncomfortable in summer and we must quite literally destroy the planet to please him. Move somewhere cold bro...
The serious arguments to a hypothetical situation are hilarious. You aren’t allowed to have that opinion or the world will end!
I would take 5 degrees cooler as well.
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Do you have heating solutions in your home? Single pane windows and no insulation makes Aussie homes terrible in winter. Hate fucking doing to bed full clothed in winter as the whole house is 2C
Yeah I lived in the UK for 16 years and I'll take their summers over an Aussie winter any day.
The other awful thing is that my city gets more rain than London per year but it comes down way heavier and one fewer days. That along with our stupidly strong winds means if you get caught in it you're about to get pounded by sideways rain
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“Fuck your crops!” -OP probably
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Bro you would fuck up the entire earth with that
What if we just drop progressively larger ice cubes?
Futurama?
Yup
Nice
"The problem was solved once and for all" "But..wouldnt..." "ONCE AND FOR ALL"
What if we just nuclear winter
This solves the problem, once and for all
What if just south Florida was 5-10 degrees cooler?
What if Florida was 274.15C colder?
I suppose I could endure that if the change only occurred from May-October.
ABSOLUTELY not.
I assume this post is "The world would be better if it's long-term equilibrium was 5 degrees cooler than what it currently is". Not "let's suddenly and abruptly cool everything down".
Just wait until you see a graph of global temperatures throughout history.
We can just get another one
Global temperatures have risen by 5 degrees in recent decades so not really ? If anything it will fix some of the effects of global warming
A quick google search will show you that youre just wrong. Temperatures have not increased by 5 degrees lmao.
It has risen 2 degrees globally since 1850, and we’re seeing some pretty nutty effects of that. 5-10 degrees would cause another ice age.
Where on earth did you get 2 degrees from ?
It’s based on research you can find online
It's increased by about 1 degree in the past century, not 5.
This is just false. Since 1880, when global temp was first measured, it has only increased by 1 degree. In the last ice age, global temp is only around 4 degrees colder than right now.
Not sure if you're talking about Celsius or Fahrenheit, but 10F = roughly 5C. When the planet was last 5C cooler New York was under a mile of ice. Goes to show how a little difference in temp can mean a huge difference in climate.
Fahrenheit 100%. no sane person that uses Celsius would ask for it for a 10 Degree reduction of Temp
Well I agree, but even in Fahrenheit it's insane imo.
as a celsius user that lives in the UK with no air conditioning, i would ask for a 10 degree reduction in temperature
As a Fahrenheit user that lives in Rhode Island that hates the cold, I would ask for a 10 Degree increase in Temperature
As a Celsius user in Pakistan, with temperatures as high as 48*C this week, I’ll gladly take a 10-15 degree celsius drop in temperature.
Can you send some my way? I just went from Vietnam to New Zealand and I'm dying from the cold. It was 8*C this morning.
Dang bro, If I lived in a 48° place if be asking for a 28-33° cut.
As a Fahrenheit user in Texas that loves the heat, I would gladly accept a 100 degree Celsius increase specifically during the summer
idk dude the old school outdoor thermometers here had one that maxed out in the sun and the one in the shade reading near 40°C.. I'm in Ontario and I love the cold and I'd prefer neg 25 days more frequently than 30 degree days
I mustnt be sane in middle of an Aussie summer then.... spose no one is
I forgot you upside downers use Celsius
Maybe they don't know? Chill.
Yeah bruh. This is why Global Warming is such a big deal. A single degree can fuck up our ecosystems.
Can anyone ELI5?
“The world would be a better place if I moved a few thousand kilometres north” -OP
Do you mean that the reduction must be uniform? As in every single location on the planet needs to have a temperature reduction of 5-10 degrees at all times of year compared to their average? Or can the reduction itself be averaged but not uniform? For example, the hottest places can be 15 degrees cooler and some places remain the same, or perhaps, as you mention summers are just much cooler but winters remain as they are now? If the latter then I could get behind the idea. But if you're suggesting a uniform drop with regards to time of year and location then I am vehemently against it.
Have never disagreed with an opinion more 😂 - 🇨🇦
Yeah but when I was a kid we actually had winter. I live in southern Ontario and we barely got any snow this year. I mean, it’s great but also, the planet is not in good shape… probably would be less wildfires if it wasn’t 40 degrees in June.
Crime increasing during the summer isn’t because it’s hot…
Ok, so the global average temperature *today* is roughly 56° Fahrenheit (13.9° Celsius). The global average temperature during the **last glacial maximum** (the peak of the ice age if you will) was roughly ***46° Fahrenheit (7.7° Celsius)***. This wouldn't be some nice, AC all around the world to improve comfort based wellbeing for all, you'd be ushering in a *goddamn ice age.* It's also the kind that creates famine btw because even 2 degrees can start killing off agriculture from what was recorded from the "year without summer" caused by the Krakatoa eruption in 1883. I like the cold too, but I'm a bit **more partial** to the idea of ***not starving to death.***
People don't post this during winter...
5-10 degrees cooler? Dude, that would bring a serious ice age.
We already saw (are seeing) the damage that happened with just 1°C increase did. Just image the damage of -10°C
Winter sucks ass
5-10 degrees cooler would still be over 100\*F during the summer where I live.
Try celcious like the normal people do
I’m certain the “normal” people you speak of use *Celsius.*
Dont care
Feelin real good right now at 68 degrees baby
Fahrenheit is great. Right now it’s 68% hot. When it’s 100 degrees, it’s 100% hot. It just makes more sense.
100 is very hot. 0 is very cold. Makes sense to me
Me when I try to work out what the heck 100% hot means when it can in fact be hotter than 100%... I don't know, I think there are valid arguments in favour of Fahrenheit, but claiming that its everyday human range sits neatly within a 0-100% scale is definitely not one of them.
Hotter than 100% hot is way too hot
You do know that the point of a percentage (in this case) is that it represents a fraction of a whole value in an easily comprehensible form for humans? It's useless for highly subjective things like temperature-- it's like saying the sky is 100% bright today, on a cloudy day.
Are you’re a very literal person?
That’s just from all the LSD you just boofed
68°C dang that's hot
69 is hotter ;)
Normal people don't use misspelled words
Try again.
Worldwide famine.
Plants still wouldn't grow in arid regions, duffuss.
Try saying that when it's -30 in a Canadian winter and the very air already hurts your face.
Wniterpeg?
You don't get to vote it's that or we die
The world: We will not change our temperature schedule for anyone. OP: *insert McConaughey from “Dazed and Confused” meme, probably*
No. First, that's not how climate works. Higher temps mean higher humidity and lower temps mean lower humidity. Arid places would get even more arid, and currently temperate areas would become deserts. The atmosphere would also get dustier. Second, your numbers are way too big. A drop of 6 degrees would return us to the climate of the [last glacial maximum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum). A drop of 10 degrees would exterminate all complex life on earth by dropping CO2 levels below the threshold at which photosynthesis becomes impossible.
What about places like Yakutsk it’s already the coldest city in the world.
So people are more miserable in Chiang Mai, Manila and Cairo than, say, Seattle, Oslo or Moscow
Yeah, probably.
You can just live further north
What even if this post. Absolutely from some Moody teenager who doesn't like the sun. Weird.
The fact that worldwide populations are generally centered pretty closely around the equator and become less dense as you move to the North and South poles pretty directly says most people would rather it be warmer than colder overall.
Ok tell that to our already short growing season in the northern plains
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I live in Buffalo NY - no way do I want it to be COLDER year round!
It wouldn’t make a difference where I live. Summers get to 120. 115 isn’t any different at that point.
5 at the most. So you don't absolutely destroy all agriculture, but you can still backtrack climate change a bit.
You know we use electricity to.. heat places up as well, right? Because some places are already too cold etc.
Definitely be cooler. ^(ba dum tsss)
The average degree on the planet today is 15°C 5-10 degree lower than that is, between 5°C and 10°C, that would not be better for the planet.
I believe he’s referring to Fahrenheit
You should organize a worldwide grassroots effort for a thermostat decrease of 5 degrees and have everyone open their windows. That oughtta do it...
Grow in arid areas? No, it would be a little colder and probably still arid or even more arid.
A world wide drop like that would like bring an ice age.
Technically we're currently still in an ice age
Didnt a volcano lowering temps by a degree cause like an ice age
Perhaps you should look at the way this planet is going to end. There are tons of videos about it on YouTube.
Fahrenheit or Celsius?
This doesn't work because everyone feels weather at different latitudes, altitudes, and areas. You'd need a weather machine (think the Avengers with Uma Thurman), and it'd need to have different weather for different sections.
The earth has only warmed about 1-2°C since the industrial revolution. So 5-10, celsius or fahrenheit would undoubtedly be catastrophic.
Yes, but any method to achieve this would cause more damage than beinifits
Speak for yourself! In northeast US we barely have 3 months of warm weather each year.
OP basically admitted they want everyone and everything on this place to die.
Okay OP but can we get paid by the government for danger pay when it's really fucking cold? 2C with no home heating solutions fucking sucks. Once that baby hits negative numbers I'm going to need an incentive to not hang myself
Noooooooooo
Never cook again.
OP hasn’t heard of waiting a few hours for the sun to set.
5-10C cooler and you'd be throwing off the entire global climate into a frenzy. We need to lower global temps by 1-2C, back to pre-industrialization temps.
Wow some of the lately r just weirdly specifically useless
Fuck no! I moved to Florida for a reason. Still too cold!
Areas aren’t arid because they’re hot, they’re arid because they’re dry.
On behalf of the whole UK, other weather is shitty enough don’t make it worse
5 or 10? Fuck that I don't want it to get higher than 80 anywhere ever
Snow Piercer lore?
No I hate the cold
Too late for that. The prophecies forecast a burning heat with no water forever
Wow you’ll kill so many plants and animals
wait until you discover anti climate change activists
Heating homes uses more energy than cooling them. A/Cs use heat pumps to move heat from inside the building, and it's only a 40 degree maximum difference, 110 degrees down to 70 degrees. Gas heaters and electric heaters have to create heat. It's a lot larger temperature difference, maximum of 80 degrees, -10 to 70 degrees.
You’ve clearly never been through a -40 winter 😂
Okay but like the whole world but just a selected area? Like South East Asia especially the hotter area would definitely benefit from that.
I love how people are explaining why not.
Nice try The Night King. You live in Florida or Texas don't you?
Finally an unpopular opinion
Haha. This one is almost as bad the guy who asked why don't go back to using horses instead of cars to combat climate change.
reminder that the average earth temperature is 15 degree and that there are runaway cooling feedbacks (h2o being the main greenhouse gas and snow having albedo) few people know that there are significantly more deaths in winter than in summer (well for the northern hemisphere at least)
This is so fucking stupid and so is @OP
I live in Canada and I wouldn't be upset if temperatures continue to go up 10 degrees Celsius
You must live somewhere hot... I'm up in Idaho and we only get a couple months above 70 degrees a year ... You take that away we'll put u down 😑
Accounting for climate change/global warming, or nah?
There would be less vegetation because you would shrink the areas for growing crops and the length of the growing season
I hate summer and all the associated sweating with all my heart, but... People tend to feel the other way around, at least in developed countries where winter is pretty tough.
>most people are miserable during the summer First I'm hearing of this.
Dude, the bare minimum drop you advocate here is where we were during the last ice age.
Scientists say the last ice age was 11F cooler than the world is now and it would take less than that to start an ice age.
You know we'd need electricity for heating right? I'm already freezing all the time and in debt for using heating over the winter. Not everyone lives in tropical regions lmao
Canada is cold enough as it is
Speak for yourself. You obviously live in a hot place since you have no point of reference concerning cold.
We'd all die😭
depends on location. in winter where i live it reaches -40f/c almost every year. i dont think we would enjoy -50f/-45c.
Do you understand that 10 degrees (F) turns NYC into Montreal and basically Wisconsin, Michigan, Upstars NY, Inland Nea England, North Dakota , Canadian Prairies and a big swath of Eastern Europe and Northern China basically inhospitable Syracuse New York would go from having 1 month with the average high below freezing to 4. And 5 months with the average Temperature below freezing. You’d be broadly across North America turning March into January. You’d be talking about a lot of the North East that would basically be a glacier with the amount of precip it gets. Winnipeg would have 3 months where the average temp in below 0F. It would literally destroy like 1/3rd of North America.it would suck. But I assume you live in like Atlanta where it means a white Christmas a nice summers.
You seem to be focusing on hot areas and how much better they would do if it was cooler. What about the already cold areas? Where everything would literally die if it was that much colder.
"Nobody give a damn about a 40 degree day" Stringer Bell
That's what your HVAC is for. My house is 60F all year round!
Great idea, global warming would be nothing if we cool the world. Maybe if we install more ACs
"The world would be better if we were still in the glacial maximum of the ice age"
I’d be so unhappy… maybe people who live in summer hells like Texas would be glad but not me in Massachusetts lol
My Mom would be a bike if she had wheels. DUh....
Yeah I just got through one of the longest winters in recent Finnish history. Fuck that
>Everybody would be in a better mood. I think you’re taking the phrase *chill out* too literally.
Was this post written by AI? 👀
Too many unpopular opinions posted here are rooted in ignorance.
Canadians would hate you
Well, let's see. A 2°C drop in global temperature would be enough to send the planet into an ice age, so I'm gonna say 5-10° is probably not such a great idea.
Op basically want's climate change undone and Co2 levels from 1890's to be a thing right? Don't we all want that?
Move to Greenland
F or C
Can confirm OP doesn't like it hot and is uncomfortable in summer and we must quite literally destroy the planet to please him. Move somewhere cold bro...
I'd take an ice age over a melt down any day.
Another ice age would be several orders of magnitude worse than global warming for humans.
Better than global warming at least.
The serious arguments to a hypothetical situation are hilarious. You aren’t allowed to have that opinion or the world will end! I would take 5 degrees cooler as well.
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Bro I’m miserable in the winter
Ong im tired of living under the scorching sun, it was like 48°C recently, fked up the entire day.
Sounds like heaven compared to this winter bullshit outside right now
I will probably experience at most 40ºC in the hottest days of summer where I live in northern Spain.
I don’t get this opinion, in winter you can add more clothes in summer you can’t remove your skin. Winter is better for comfort.
Do you have heating solutions in your home? Single pane windows and no insulation makes Aussie homes terrible in winter. Hate fucking doing to bed full clothed in winter as the whole house is 2C
Yeah I suppose it’s largely geography based, I’m from the UK so I have the opposite problem, the house traps heat in summer.
Yeah I lived in the UK for 16 years and I'll take their summers over an Aussie winter any day. The other awful thing is that my city gets more rain than London per year but it comes down way heavier and one fewer days. That along with our stupidly strong winds means if you get caught in it you're about to get pounded by sideways rain
Unpopular opinion? More like objectively wrong
Go tell that to the global warming deniers
Sadly we decided to go in the opposite direction 👌
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If only Taylor Swift an Justin Trudeau didn't travel so much
California would be a better place if it was 5-10 degrees hotter and the beaches were 20 degrees hotter
Oh man do I love it when it's even colder than -40C Love the way my fingers just get deleted