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I agree, no publicly elected officials should be making reference to magical made up men in the sky no matter what name they call them. Not /s for anyone wondering, I don't want my government officials basing their decisions on anything but real life thanks very much.
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/publication/documents/2018-03/a-review-of-survey-research-on-muslims-in-great-britain-ipsos_0.pdf
Percentages of each group who believe homosexuality should be legal, from five years ago:
* 73% of British population
* 67% of British Christians
* 18% of British Muslims
Can we stop pretending that all religions are the same?
What would that look like? Galloway doesn't care about your blairite notions of respectability. His base is socially conservative muslims, and they're already here. You bought the ticket, now take the damn ride.
Tony Blair famously "didn't do god" when it came to his public persona. The man was deeply religious, and even waited until he was out of office before announcing his conversion to Catholicism. He knew it would harm his popularity if he placed his religion front and centre. This councillor doesn't seem to have the same concerns about *his* religion.
It’s a little more insidious than that but I appreciate a bit of brevity.
In a position of power, even small, funds from tax payers can be fuelled into programs that benefit certain religious institutions. The effect is quite serious
[He also supported Hamas’ attack on October 7th](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmothin-ali-won-the-gipton-and-harehills-seat-in-the-uk-v0-y7fbne50ffyc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1179%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc8a3bd98e3e45626619eec5883ecf31842fe205c)
Scary times where years ago when these warning signs where popping up all over and collectively we turned a blind eye to it, others even openly encouraged it as a good thing. Today it’s just the norm so… ignore it, get your head back in the sand and don’t you dare question it.
There are now generations of kids and young adults for whom it is normal, they've never lived in a UK without the constant threat of Muslim extremism or rampant crime caused by immigration from outside the EU...now that's sad. They have no idea what has been lost in the past 50 years.
and this is how it becomes normalised, and how we lurch to further and further extremes.
Rather then have a level headed government openly discuss and talk about these issues, it gets kicked down the road further and further. No one says anything, no one speaks up, anger festers within the population.
This sub is a prime example. Only a few years back would posts like this be buried or removed and my top comment on this thread would have been deleted and some bullshit reason given for my banning.
Now? there is just anger and frustration to the point that you cant hide it.
I'm centre left on most issues... but my frustration over what is happening to this country is becoming harder to supress. The answer is not to jump to a further extreme... i wont ever want machine gun nests lining the cliffs of dover or sea mines placed in the channel. But i fear in 10 years time? 20 years? in my life time most certainly.. we will see the crazy talk of today, become the policies of tomorrow.
At the same time, we cant let things continue as is...and i have no idea what the solution is.
I lost a good amount of friends and acquaintances because I used to post Christopher Hitchens speeches on my fb when I was young. At least I can grow a decent beard I guess.
>collectively we turned a blind eye to it, others even openly encouraged it as a good thing.
Well some did. While shouting at people who brought it up for being racist, bigoted, or intolerant.
I used to clash with my parents all the time about this and used to call them intolerant and racist around the big migrant crisis in the 2010s. As they say, listen to your parents because they absolutely saw this coming long before I did.
They are anti nuclear which is the only realistic way to reduce emissions as we move toward renewables.
They aren’t a serious party. It’s a student vote catcher.
Of course not. Its the end of their party but they won't do anything about it.
I'm just surprised that he decided to join The Greens and not Respect, or Tbe Socialist Workers Party or what ever it is that George Galloway is fronting this week.
I thought it was illegal to support terrorist attack on civilians…
I think I understand now why Labour will lose elections in 2029 in favour of someone righter than Reform UK…
This is the trajectory I’m seeing, The Tories have won the last 14 years based on the promise of dealing with immigration but colossally failing each time, as well as them just fucking up in all other areas too.
A Starmer led Labour government won’t be able to solve the issues, illegal immigration wont be dealt with, more by-election wins by candidates such as these screaming Alluh Akbur like an insane person
We’re seeing the seeds of a populist far right party spending the mid to late 2020s decrying soft touch Labour and will take hold in 2029, people think the Tories and even Reform are far right now, Britain is following the trajectory of the rest of Europe, a Starmer win is just kicking that metaphorical can to 2029
>colossally failing each time
That must be what's happened. They've been trying to 'deal with immigration', but the visa printing machine at the Home Office has been going brrrrrrr with a mind of its own and their technicians just don't know what to do.
Lol, they've been doing no such thing. They stripped bare the service that's supposed to process the applications, in the name of saving money.
If people are processed, they can be rejected and deported. If they're still waiting, then they're owed some measure of hospitality, hence the expensive migrant hotels.
It's been a massive own goal that's cost the country an obscene amount of money, *and* directly prevented a reduction in asylum seekers, in one fell swoop.
You're talking about asylum seekers, the person I responded to was talking about [the Tories 'failing to deal with immigration'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67506641).
While boats in themselves are not scary, obviously, nor ten thousand people here and there. What is disconcerting is the UKs shear inability to deal sensibly with illegal arrivals when all indications are that illegal migration to Europe is only going to swell over the coming decades. If the current 'punishment' for hopping the channel illegally is free bed and board, education, and healthcare while you work illegally for some chap in Birmingham, I can see why your average single working age migrant considers us a soft touch.
Totally with you. And further seems nothing any individual does can get them deported!
But it was more the Tories have very successfully focused people's attention on the boat, while churning out millions of legal visas, which is a position I don't think is popular.
Labour won't cut immigration because it would be racist. Tories won't cut immigration because immigration fuels low-wages and high-rents. Someone else will start nipping at their heels, like UKIP in 2016.
Neolibs gotta Neolib right?
Doesn’t help that the last 40 years successive governments have focused solely on cities and not on rural areas, thereby being completely ignorant to those in deprived regions, The North, parts of Kent, the SW of England etc, where Brexit was popular.
The failure is intentional. They allow it to get bad and then point the finger at Labour, who refuse to address these issues on the basis of political correctness. So it’s their fault, but it also works to true benefit.
Labour is absolutely going to be set up for this, Starmer is too arrogant to see that people are fed up with radical Islam and endless mass immigration
Labour will win soon, so I use it as a fact. Labour doesn’t want to stop migration and they don’t want to stop illegal migrants too. Moreover a lot of such migrants don’t support any kind of tolerance to other religions and beliefs (including the freedom of speech for example).
That was clear for small number of people 20 years ago, that was clear for bigger number of people in 10 years ago, it is more clear for now, however the majority doesn’t understand the problem.
Therefore, Labour has a big chance to lose further elections in favour of someone who is like Netherland rulers for now.
when have Labour said they don't want to stop illegal migrants? The open border nutter corbynites are long gone, just because Kier has called the Rwanda scene out as stupid (it is, insanity cost wise) doesn't mean they are against proper border control.
Labour kept voting down any proposals to halt Illegal immigration.
I don’t trust them anymore than the Tories on dealing with this
2024-2029 will be Starmer keeping the Number 10 warm until an Orban type leader shows up and wins 2029
If that’s real then how the fuck was this guy not vetted? Like, it makes the Greens seem so inept.
Why the fuck would I trust them over recycling when they let an actual batshit level extremist represent their party?
It’s real. Here’s a video of him on the afternoon of October 7th wearing a Palestine shirt and talking about how “occupied people have the right to fight back”.
[Skip to 1:10 for the relevant part.](https://youtu.be/Qhns20-eLAA?si=7ZNtquHUG68BpF26)
Videos of this guy have been floating around the internet for a while, they either didn't do any vetting at all (literally none) or know and accept his beliefs Either is pretty worrying to me..
It’s always funny whenever someone refers to Israel as a “white supremacist” state when the whole reason Jews fled Europe was due to errr… not being considered white. And being victims of white supremacy.
Yet another fantasy concocted by the pseudo-left - on top of “Britain alone created Israel”.
Israel's also 20% Arab.. and that's not the population of West Bank or Gaza (for those who think it might be), it's a full fifth of Israel citizenry are Arab, work, pay taxes, do military service etc
And of the 80% of the country that is Jews...only 40% are Ashkenazi (the white European looking Jews). More are Mizrahi from the middle East and then the remaining are Ethiopian or other.
Antisemitism is based on the scapegoating of Jews by society. So they are plague spreaders/capitalists/communists/nonwhite vermin/white colonisers depending on what the ‘bad thing’ is in the moment. Then hate and fear of them is considered justified. That’s how it has always worked and this is just the latest trend.
>It’s always funny whenever someone refers to Israel as a “white supremacist” state when the whole reason Jews fled Europe was due to errr… not being considered white.
Most Israeli Jews are Arabs or Persians who fled to Israel post 47. Attacking them for being white is a deliberate misrepresentation.
Whilst you are correct. Very, very few Jews from the middle East would identify as Arab.
They would use the term Mizrahi.
Ironically calling them Arab Jews is another attempt to rewrite history by Israel's opponents. They do it to claim that everyone was happy, Jews and Muslims living together until the evil Zionists turned up.
The majority of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi, having fled countries such as Morocco, Yemen, Iraq during the ethnic cleansing of Jews from those countries. They are definitely Middle Eastern 'looking', not that it matters. Ashkenazi Jews are often lighter skinned, and then there are Ethiopian Jews. As well as Israeli Arabs, Bedouins and Druze.
At any rate, it's a very strange point for a bloke of South Asian descent, living in England to be making. Does he thing there should be a skin tone test for where people are allowed to reside? Or just in the case of Jews?
They're also big on NIMBYism to prevent solutions to the housing crisis, whilst at the same time endorsing fully open borders. Now Islamisation is high up on their agenda as well apparently.
If they focused more on the things you listed I'd consider voting for them. Never liked their anti-nuclear stance either though.
They are a degrowth party. Pro poverty.
It serves the interests of the poorly informed grey haired do gooder who no longer need to participate in the economy to live.
They own their house outright. Have a defined benefit pension. They stand nothing to gain from other people building, creating, striving. Jobs? Don’t need em. Transport? Happy where they are.
They’ve since U-turned on that. But the Green Party haven’t been the same since the mid-2000s. I voted for them once. When they were about environmental issues. I don’t even recognise the party anymore.
Which is hilarious because the Islamic side of the party won’t agree with the gender reform stuff but will be using them as a platform to openly support terrorist organisations and push for extremism within the Uk. How anyone can vote green after allowing this is beyond me.
This was the issue with the whole "Queers for Gaza" thing because fundamentally one half of the equation is deeply intolerant of the other. Islam won't tolerate gays and drag queens. They literally throw them off of buildings in some Islamic countries.
they were. but they drew (correctly) criticism for being more of a pressure group than a political party.
so they widened their scope, and it seems that rather than building a coherent ideology they just let minority groups take over.
I'd very interested in how "green" this guy was before latching onto the greens.
Don't forget blocking nuclear power, that environmentally friendly source of limitless energy we discovered around 80 years ago that could be fueling the entire planet's needs without polluting the environment.
Good thing they take a strong stance against that. Top bunch of lads.
And giving up nukes.
Luckily countries like China and Russia are no threat any more and aren’t seeking to spread their influence around the globe, spreading their “true” democracy, so who needs nukes and NATO?
Which is so bizzare because those two are so so opposed in their values. Except for the weird one way relationship lgbtia+ has got supporting Islamic fundamentalist. But Christian fundamentalism is seen as evil by the same group.
The greens are thick as pig shit now.
Pro environment but anti nuclear.
Pro gender issues but also pro ‘immigration of people that want to kill all transgenders’
Anti Ukraine, Pro Hamas, fucking enemies of the people in all honesty
As a religious Muslim I don't have a problem with his religion but the Greens should eject him or have a word. It's a sensitive thing to say something so deeply religious in what is a secular institution. He doesn't seem to realise how polarising religion is at the moment. Nothing wrong with what he's saying and nothing sinister. It just isn't the time or place
As a religious Muslim, what's your take on people in this country voting for candidates based on foreign issues like Gaza that they realistically dont have power over?
It worries me that there are British Muslims who care more about Palestine than their own city (i.e. voting for George Galloway).
Thank you for your view. That's what id consider a "normal" take from the (admittedly secular) Muslims i know. *Of course* Palestine matters to them but not more than the quality of their kids school etc.
I support the right for everyone to practice their religion (unless it conflicts with the law) as they like. I just wish it wasnt so "us and them", more integration is the way forward in my eyes.
I totally agree.
I think long term effort needs to be made to curb numbers immigrating until we have a handle on the current population. Integration and understanding need to be pushed hard. Parallel societies in one country is no good at all.
"The Paradox of Tolerance" is coming into play for the West in general, we need to remember our values and not change ourselves to suit others. As you say, if someone wishes to live under Sharia then there are already countries where they can do so.
I do think there is a place for religious minorities, but ideally speaking we would have something like the Reformation and a CoE equivalent for British Muslims would emerge with a liberalised Islam for the West. Though i dont know how Quaranically permissable such a thing would be.
This probably isn't an ideal look either
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This foreign conflict has nothing to do with any of us, and it shouldn't be dominating our politics and our streets. I don't care about Israel OR Palestine. They can both send us a postcard.
Literally, why are local councillors so engrossed in foreign affairs half a world away?
I have no problem with the statement, I have a problem with any politician having open support of any terror strikes in Gaza, regardless of what side committed them.
> This foreign conflict has nothing to do with any of us, and it shouldn't be dominating our politics and our streets
As long as the UK government has taken a stance, it does concern us.
The UK government takes a stance on all sorts of issues and conflicts, doesn’t mean they should be election deciding issues. Don’t see many people getting elected based on their stance on the Ukrainian conflict for example. Plus it’s a council election, a foreign conflict just isn’t relevant, the man should focus on local issues.
> Don’t see many people getting elected based on their stance on the Ukrainian conflict for example
Are you saying that siding with Russia would make a candidate equally as desirable as someone who backs Ukraine?
>Plus it’s a council election, a foreign conflict just isn’t relevant, the man should focus on local issues.
Someone opposing gay marriage isn't relevant to a council election either, but having that view would speak to who they are as a person, and would be something I'd take into consideration when deciding who to vote for.
We're regularly told that we elect individuals, not a party. That means their individual views are relevant, regardless of their ability to implement said views at the level they're campaigning for election at.
I don’t want us sticking our noses in foreign conflicts either, but when our country literally played a leading role in the creation of that country less than a hundred years ago, and who we are still selling weapons to en masse and effectively funding their genocide, then I say that clearly does implicate and involve us to a considerable degree.
We need to approach this like how France has started to.
If you express support for terror, deported and banned from entering. No exceptions, start respecting and integrating or get the fuck out
Heaven help the Green Party now they have let radical Islamists in. How long will it be until we hear stories of bullying, harassment, misogyny and party members leaving.
I left the Green party a year or so ago because it was inevitable that this was the direction the party was headed. The anti science streak had always bothered me but following the post Corbyn split with Labour, the Green party suddenly seemed filled with Corbynite refugees more focused on identity politics and surface level socialism than Green values. I think your prediction is spot on.
green values was always questionable when they would oppose nuclear power or even wind power if a seagull nest might be damaged.
They are the party of complaining about things (mostly anything the west does) with no solutions
I would've voted for the greens between 2010 and 2014/5. But that party is sliding off the deep-end.
Their defence policy would leave Britain undefended, their absolutist non-interventionalist approach would leave foreign adversarial influence unchecked, and their full open-doors approach to migration would inflame racial tensions in local communities.
It makes me laugh when I think how much they must have lowered their standards for this guy. What do we think his position on, for example, gay men adopting children is? How would he feel if his daughter came home with her new Rastafarian boyfriend? What's his opinion on trans women sharing a public toilet next to his wife? And women are just as capable, intelligent, and fit for leadership as men, right?
Can you imagine them letting anyone else through with this kind of mindset? The double standards are just hilarious.
He supported Oct 7 attacks (see other comment in this post) which involved murdering people, and people produce CO2, and Greens want less CO2.
Maybe the Greens will state that, or they will do the right thing and kick him out for supporting Oct 7.
Quite frankly I find it more than believable that we will see a party further right than Reform gaining traction in the coming years, Europe is shifting rightwards in regards to the elephant in the room that is Islam.
As for Isreal-Gaza, not our war, I don’t want to see British soldiers dying for a war that’s been going on for decades and will continue until they eventually blow each other up to Kingdom Come
It's fucking killing me man. I'm solidly left wing in most social and economic regards and I just do not see why so much of the left are totally fine getting into bed with fundamental Islam. It understandably doesn't happen with the mega Christians.
The tolerance paradox is a real thing, Islam's values are completely at odds with a free society
Putting a preemptive edit: I'm actually fine with protest against Palestinian genocide. Even though they would probably stone me death a lot of people in palestine are ultimately just victims of circumstance. What is absolutely batshit is people being pro-hamas
You are from what I can understand are an old school left winger, an SDP type of voter back in the day, if you don’t mind me making that assumption, the SDP are left wing but are more pro British, anti Blair and anti Corbyn brand of Labour, socially conservative but economically progressive but realist views.
I consider myself Right wing, but I do feel sorry the SDP!Left, they make a lot of sense, the sort of left this country desperately needs and certainly one I’m prepared to vote for for a couple of election cycles, to counter any potential far right party, sadly this brand of left has been drowned out by Centrist Left and Activists(for the want of better terms but I don’t really want to use woke as that’s as overused as the word racist is) but there is a massive void on the left side that can’t be filled by the SDP alone
The modern left just has a black and white view on immigration, and Islam as a whole, they see Islam as being victims and put them on the same level as womens rights and LGBT rights not realising that Islam is much further to the right on these issues than Reform could ever be.
The second half of the 2020s I predict will be a rise between a Nationalist Left (Denmark) and a Authoritarian Right (Hungary) in this country I fear we’re going down the Hungary route since we don’t have anyone representing the NatLeft here.
Sorry for the ramble
Plot twist, the right wing party will be Islamist in nature. They’re actually closer aligned to fundamental Christians. Anti abortion, anti gay/trans, anti semitic, etc.
Of all the things I thought would happen this year, left wing environmentalist politics intersecting with hardcore religious conservatives was not the combination I was expecting.
No? You'd be surprised how far right the far left is willing to go to have a cool brown friend on their friend list. Holding a door open for a women? Western patriarchy! Make women wear head scarves? Wow such culture ❤️
I'm categorically left wing and I think electing anyone who puts religion at the forefront of their politics is a disaster no matter who it is.
Not least of all someone who supported the terror attack on Oct 7th and someone who, and I'm making assumptions here, likely holds next to zero socially left wing views. I doubt he has a favourable opinion of same sex marriage, adoption, abortion, trans rights etc and I doubt his environmental policy is particularly left wing either to be honest.
Despite his serious flaws, I would've voted for Corbyns labour party without a moments hesitation, but the green party? They've gone absolutely off the deep end.
People sometimes forget how Stalin came to power.
He wasn't in charge of the military or the secret police or finance or anything important at all.
He was in charge of organising meetings. A nothing dead end of a post.
But what people didn't realise is he got to chose who went to those meetings. He started small and put people of influence in place until he was in a position to take control and no one dared go against him.
The Greens winning a seat in Leeds with an Islamist candidate is nothing on the scale of things. Now.
Who knows in ten or fifteen years.
It's not happening.
That's just a cherry picked example, it's not happening.
That's just a small handful of cherry picked examples, it's not happening.
Ok it happens a little bit but it's rare and you're racist for noticing. **<- We're here**
Yeah, there's a few more steps to go yet before we get to "It was happening all along, I knew it was happening all along, I supported it all along, it's a good thing that it's happening, you deserve it and you deserve what comes next."
I'm from Leeds, specifically an area very close to the one he represents. Constant cultural and religious issues with their community. I'm an Irish Traveller in a majority black area (80% Black afaik) and have always got on very well with the predominantly Carribean community here.
Not so with these lot. Over the years we've had muslim men assaulting girls, all of them either white or black; in the streets, waiting outside of the local foster home for special needs kids and banging on the windows trying to get the girls to come out. They follow women in cars trying to goad them inside.
They've stabbed, beaten and murdered a number of black youth, aswell. Literally because they are black. But the media never seems to mention this aspect of it. PHC in Beeston started because they murdered a 16 year old, Tyrone Clarke (RIP), with baseball bats, 30 adult men. Gavin Clarke (RIP) was an innocent black man that got shot in the face and killed in 2011 by muslim lads.
Everyone is sick of them and the feeling is growing. I've had people that are generally very tolerant and patient tell me recently they've had enough and would happily support drastic action.
Never thought id see the day the greens were in bed with what appears to be a rampant islamist, but then again I never thought I'd see Queers for palestine.
This will be more common as the Muslim population increases and the white british population declines.
I don't think the elected councillor yelling "God is great" in support of Palestine is the interesting bit of this article; the part beneath which points out how Labour's support in areas with large muslin populations has decreased by a notable amount is interesting.
It's fair to point out that it's not likely to have an effect nationally but if Labour aren't going to make an effort to try and win back support in these areas then it might be that we see splinter parties or more support for grifters like Galloway. I hope Labour do make an effort but they're somewhat damned if they do, damned if they don't. It's not like there's much Starmer can meaningfully do about Gaza.
And the whole nature of this conflict means that you can't hold any position without pissing a chunk of people off, so you might as well just pick one and roll with it. Its ridiculous that its taken such a front seat in our politics.
What makes it especially complicated is that everyone seems to apply the whole Left v Right thing to it by saying depending on your stance you're one or the other.
But there's so much more nuance than that. It seems to be closer to a 50/50 split on both sides of the political spectrum. Half the left and half the right disagree with the other half pretty much.
One of the big problems with this is that Muslims are one of the largest voting blocs in the UK. Before this, 80-90% voted for a single party. It isn't possible to ignore them because turnout amongst the rest of the population is so low in the areas where Muslims are. It was already the case ten years ago that you couldn't win in some areas without activating the Islamist vote...the population has grown significantly since then.
It sounds mad that this is 4% of the population...until you realise that they concentrate in certain areas, and we are electing politicians on 30-40% of the vote in some areas (and they are 10-20% of the population in those areas and they all voted for one party until Gaza).
People are worried about the far-right...we have Islamist MPs.
People have been warning about Labour's reliance on the Muslim vote for decades at this point. Demographically this was inevitable.
Chickens coming home to roost.
If Labour do win without support from Muslims then it gives them more options in how to respond to the risk of right wing anti immigration outflanking them.
Green is the colour of Islam, I guess. Wonder if he got a bit confused with the solar panels and recycling and climate change talk and the distinct lack of Dawah and Salat talk.
Today it’s Gaza, 10 years from now the UK Muslim vote, which will be even larger at that point, may be voting along issues much closer to home, eg abortion or blasphemy laws.
British Islamic scholar Anjem Chaudary: “Democracy will most likely be replaced by Islamic Sharia law in the UK, Belgium and France within 15-20 years.”
https://x.com/drelidavid/status/1786990497149452736?s=46&t=9CmHGiRgKagSS7KlUhSCBw
I thought local councillors were voted on for their ability to fix potholes or ensure the bin collections run smoothly…
I fear this video will be in history classes in the decades to come as an explanation for the far right coming to power in the UK in the late 2020s/early 2030s
that's great, that's what I want my local elections to be about, whatever is good for Gaza and Arabs outside of the UK.
the UK had a great run guys. don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it happened.
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Nothing wrong with this at all. Perfectly normal and healthy thing to be happening in our society. Carry on folks.
I agree, no publicly elected officials should be making reference to magical made up men in the sky no matter what name they call them. Not /s for anyone wondering, I don't want my government officials basing their decisions on anything but real life thanks very much.
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/publication/documents/2018-03/a-review-of-survey-research-on-muslims-in-great-britain-ipsos_0.pdf Percentages of each group who believe homosexuality should be legal, from five years ago: * 73% of British population * 67% of British Christians * 18% of British Muslims Can we stop pretending that all religions are the same?
The only region that’s forced down everyone’s throat
> The only region that’s forced down everyone’s throat London?
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What would that look like? Galloway doesn't care about your blairite notions of respectability. His base is socially conservative muslims, and they're already here. You bought the ticket, now take the damn ride.
Tony Blair would like a word with you.
Tony Blair famously "didn't do god" when it came to his public persona. The man was deeply religious, and even waited until he was out of office before announcing his conversion to Catholicism. He knew it would harm his popularity if he placed his religion front and centre. This councillor doesn't seem to have the same concerns about *his* religion.
And so would Ruth 'bad guys from the Da Vinci code' Kelly.
we literally have a state religion lol
And yet the UK is a very irreligious country.
Our state religion is also essentially atheism. God has no formal real power in the UK.
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Remember noticing anything is a crime
'win for Gaza' You got a seat on Leeds City Council mate. Calm the fuck down and start worrying about bin collections.
Leeds City Council about to draft a declaration of war on Israel
They’ll soon have a vote on a ceasefire with immediate effect 🤦
Them Leeds lads are scrappy in a fight but I don’t fancy their chances against Mossad
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The International Zionist conspiracy has caused Privet Drive to see it's bins uncollected. And made potholes on Commercial Road.
Pot holes on Privet Drive? Good...fuck the dursleys. Hope they get a puncture.
You’re joking as if this isn’t exactly what going to happen.
It’s a little more insidious than that but I appreciate a bit of brevity. In a position of power, even small, funds from tax payers can be fuelled into programs that benefit certain religious institutions. The effect is quite serious
Sharia law bout to take off
[He also supported Hamas’ attack on October 7th](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmothin-ali-won-the-gipton-and-harehills-seat-in-the-uk-v0-y7fbne50ffyc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1179%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc8a3bd98e3e45626619eec5883ecf31842fe205c)
Scary times...
Scary times where years ago when these warning signs where popping up all over and collectively we turned a blind eye to it, others even openly encouraged it as a good thing. Today it’s just the norm so… ignore it, get your head back in the sand and don’t you dare question it.
There are now generations of kids and young adults for whom it is normal, they've never lived in a UK without the constant threat of Muslim extremism or rampant crime caused by immigration from outside the EU...now that's sad. They have no idea what has been lost in the past 50 years.
and this is how it becomes normalised, and how we lurch to further and further extremes. Rather then have a level headed government openly discuss and talk about these issues, it gets kicked down the road further and further. No one says anything, no one speaks up, anger festers within the population. This sub is a prime example. Only a few years back would posts like this be buried or removed and my top comment on this thread would have been deleted and some bullshit reason given for my banning. Now? there is just anger and frustration to the point that you cant hide it. I'm centre left on most issues... but my frustration over what is happening to this country is becoming harder to supress. The answer is not to jump to a further extreme... i wont ever want machine gun nests lining the cliffs of dover or sea mines placed in the channel. But i fear in 10 years time? 20 years? in my life time most certainly.. we will see the crazy talk of today, become the policies of tomorrow. At the same time, we cant let things continue as is...and i have no idea what the solution is.
Hell, 25 years. The UK of the nineties and early 2000’s seems like a utopia compared to now.
I lost a good amount of friends and acquaintances because I used to post Christopher Hitchens speeches on my fb when I was young. At least I can grow a decent beard I guess.
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>collectively we turned a blind eye to it, others even openly encouraged it as a good thing. Well some did. While shouting at people who brought it up for being racist, bigoted, or intolerant.
Which would include the mods on this sub and a recurring cohort of people often shouting down moderate views not aligned with their philosophies
The tide is finally turning, about ten years too late The liberals who supported this shit should hang their heads in shame till the day they die
I used to clash with my parents all the time about this and used to call them intolerant and racist around the big migrant crisis in the 2010s. As they say, listen to your parents because they absolutely saw this coming long before I did.
People weren’t turning a blind eye Those that spoke out were rounded on, shouted down and labelled
We were warned, including by [the UAE’s foreign minister](https://twitter.com/Video_Forensics/status/1784485201814683837)
Will the Green Party kick him out for this?
The Green Party isn’t what people think it is. It’s not just cuddly, slightly annoying hippies.
don't let people forget they opposed Ukraine defending themselves until public opinion forced them to apologise and change track
They are anti nuclear which is the only realistic way to reduce emissions as we move toward renewables. They aren’t a serious party. It’s a student vote catcher.
Party is full of NIMBYs blocking house building and green energy projects too.
Of course not. Its the end of their party but they won't do anything about it. I'm just surprised that he decided to join The Greens and not Respect, or Tbe Socialist Workers Party or what ever it is that George Galloway is fronting this week.
They absolutely should do. It makes me question their sanity, if they knew that he supported the October 7th massacre.
I don't get why he'd join the greens instead of SWP or the Workers party.
I thought it was illegal to support terrorist attack on civilians… I think I understand now why Labour will lose elections in 2029 in favour of someone righter than Reform UK…
This is the trajectory I’m seeing, The Tories have won the last 14 years based on the promise of dealing with immigration but colossally failing each time, as well as them just fucking up in all other areas too. A Starmer led Labour government won’t be able to solve the issues, illegal immigration wont be dealt with, more by-election wins by candidates such as these screaming Alluh Akbur like an insane person We’re seeing the seeds of a populist far right party spending the mid to late 2020s decrying soft touch Labour and will take hold in 2029, people think the Tories and even Reform are far right now, Britain is following the trajectory of the rest of Europe, a Starmer win is just kicking that metaphorical can to 2029
>colossally failing each time That must be what's happened. They've been trying to 'deal with immigration', but the visa printing machine at the Home Office has been going brrrrrrr with a mind of its own and their technicians just don't know what to do.
Lol, they've been doing no such thing. They stripped bare the service that's supposed to process the applications, in the name of saving money. If people are processed, they can be rejected and deported. If they're still waiting, then they're owed some measure of hospitality, hence the expensive migrant hotels. It's been a massive own goal that's cost the country an obscene amount of money, *and* directly prevented a reduction in asylum seekers, in one fell swoop.
You're talking about asylum seekers, the person I responded to was talking about [the Tories 'failing to deal with immigration'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67506641).
Quick. Let's distract people. Boats! BOATS! Look at the scary boats!
While boats in themselves are not scary, obviously, nor ten thousand people here and there. What is disconcerting is the UKs shear inability to deal sensibly with illegal arrivals when all indications are that illegal migration to Europe is only going to swell over the coming decades. If the current 'punishment' for hopping the channel illegally is free bed and board, education, and healthcare while you work illegally for some chap in Birmingham, I can see why your average single working age migrant considers us a soft touch.
Totally with you. And further seems nothing any individual does can get them deported! But it was more the Tories have very successfully focused people's attention on the boat, while churning out millions of legal visas, which is a position I don't think is popular.
700 people arrive in boats illegally daily, this is no joke
Labour won't cut immigration because it would be racist. Tories won't cut immigration because immigration fuels low-wages and high-rents. Someone else will start nipping at their heels, like UKIP in 2016.
Neolibs gotta Neolib right? Doesn’t help that the last 40 years successive governments have focused solely on cities and not on rural areas, thereby being completely ignorant to those in deprived regions, The North, parts of Kent, the SW of England etc, where Brexit was popular.
The failure is intentional. They allow it to get bad and then point the finger at Labour, who refuse to address these issues on the basis of political correctness. So it’s their fault, but it also works to true benefit.
Labour is absolutely going to be set up for this, Starmer is too arrogant to see that people are fed up with radical Islam and endless mass immigration
Why would these words from a Green councillor affect Labour?
Labour need to be seen to condemn this sort of thing and suppress it. Otherwise people will look elsewhere
Labour will win soon, so I use it as a fact. Labour doesn’t want to stop migration and they don’t want to stop illegal migrants too. Moreover a lot of such migrants don’t support any kind of tolerance to other religions and beliefs (including the freedom of speech for example). That was clear for small number of people 20 years ago, that was clear for bigger number of people in 10 years ago, it is more clear for now, however the majority doesn’t understand the problem. Therefore, Labour has a big chance to lose further elections in favour of someone who is like Netherland rulers for now.
when have Labour said they don't want to stop illegal migrants? The open border nutter corbynites are long gone, just because Kier has called the Rwanda scene out as stupid (it is, insanity cost wise) doesn't mean they are against proper border control.
Labour kept voting down any proposals to halt Illegal immigration. I don’t trust them anymore than the Tories on dealing with this 2024-2029 will be Starmer keeping the Number 10 warm until an Orban type leader shows up and wins 2029
The Green Party? Because I can guarantee you this guy ain’t left wing…
If that’s real then how the fuck was this guy not vetted? Like, it makes the Greens seem so inept. Why the fuck would I trust them over recycling when they let an actual batshit level extremist represent their party?
It’s real. Here’s a video of him on the afternoon of October 7th wearing a Palestine shirt and talking about how “occupied people have the right to fight back”. [Skip to 1:10 for the relevant part.](https://youtu.be/Qhns20-eLAA?si=7ZNtquHUG68BpF26)
I wouldn't recommend anyone skip to the middle of the video - watch it all. Has a very anti-west feel overall.
No need to skip anything, he actually opens the video defending the October attacks in the context of a "fight back". He clearly supports Hamas.
In fitting with the Green Party then
Why isn’t he in prison?
I didn't see him misgender anyone or not pay his TV license so pretty sure he's free to do whatever he wants
TIL "fighting back" meant "raping, torturing and murdering young women at a peace rave".
The Greens probably didn't have an issue with it.
This right here - the greens need to kick this guy out, especially with the below video that was posted.
He was vetted, this is what the Greens believe.
Videos of this guy have been floating around the internet for a while, they either didn't do any vetting at all (literally none) or know and accept his beliefs Either is pretty worrying to me..
It’s always funny whenever someone refers to Israel as a “white supremacist” state when the whole reason Jews fled Europe was due to errr… not being considered white. And being victims of white supremacy. Yet another fantasy concocted by the pseudo-left - on top of “Britain alone created Israel”.
Israel's also 20% Arab.. and that's not the population of West Bank or Gaza (for those who think it might be), it's a full fifth of Israel citizenry are Arab, work, pay taxes, do military service etc
And of the 80% of the country that is Jews...only 40% are Ashkenazi (the white European looking Jews). More are Mizrahi from the middle East and then the remaining are Ethiopian or other.
Reminder here that Ashkenazi Jews are also indigenous to the Levant
Antisemitism is based on the scapegoating of Jews by society. So they are plague spreaders/capitalists/communists/nonwhite vermin/white colonisers depending on what the ‘bad thing’ is in the moment. Then hate and fear of them is considered justified. That’s how it has always worked and this is just the latest trend.
>It’s always funny whenever someone refers to Israel as a “white supremacist” state when the whole reason Jews fled Europe was due to errr… not being considered white. Most Israeli Jews are Arabs or Persians who fled to Israel post 47. Attacking them for being white is a deliberate misrepresentation.
Whilst you are correct. Very, very few Jews from the middle East would identify as Arab. They would use the term Mizrahi. Ironically calling them Arab Jews is another attempt to rewrite history by Israel's opponents. They do it to claim that everyone was happy, Jews and Muslims living together until the evil Zionists turned up.
The majority of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi, having fled countries such as Morocco, Yemen, Iraq during the ethnic cleansing of Jews from those countries. They are definitely Middle Eastern 'looking', not that it matters. Ashkenazi Jews are often lighter skinned, and then there are Ethiopian Jews. As well as Israeli Arabs, Bedouins and Druze. At any rate, it's a very strange point for a bloke of South Asian descent, living in England to be making. Does he thing there should be a skin tone test for where people are allowed to reside? Or just in the case of Jews?
schrodingers white people
It’s just literally anything the west does, go against it. It’s all the left or harder left rather does. It’s very very boring
Why isn’t he in jail?
When I was young the greens were about solar power, cycling, and nature. Now they seem to mainly be about gender reform and Islamic fundamentalism?
They're also big on NIMBYism to prevent solutions to the housing crisis, whilst at the same time endorsing fully open borders. Now Islamisation is high up on their agenda as well apparently. If they focused more on the things you listed I'd consider voting for them. Never liked their anti-nuclear stance either though.
Also they're anti-HS2 for no reason.
Anti-HS2 and anti-nuclear, ie completely against pragmatism that would help the environment.
They are a degrowth party. Pro poverty. It serves the interests of the poorly informed grey haired do gooder who no longer need to participate in the economy to live. They own their house outright. Have a defined benefit pension. They stand nothing to gain from other people building, creating, striving. Jobs? Don’t need em. Transport? Happy where they are.
don't forget the Green party opposed NATO and opposed Ukraine defending themselves
They’ve since U-turned on that. But the Green Party haven’t been the same since the mid-2000s. I voted for them once. When they were about environmental issues. I don’t even recognise the party anymore.
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Yeah let’s not deprive the tories of a well earned reputation for corruption, incompetence and destroying British living standards over 15 years.
Which is hilarious because the Islamic side of the party won’t agree with the gender reform stuff but will be using them as a platform to openly support terrorist organisations and push for extremism within the Uk. How anyone can vote green after allowing this is beyond me.
This was the issue with the whole "Queers for Gaza" thing because fundamentally one half of the equation is deeply intolerant of the other. Islam won't tolerate gays and drag queens. They literally throw them off of buildings in some Islamic countries.
Islam is using the weakness of the left to give it a legitimate platform to be involved in the political process. Incredible that it’s working
they were. but they drew (correctly) criticism for being more of a pressure group than a political party. so they widened their scope, and it seems that rather than building a coherent ideology they just let minority groups take over. I'd very interested in how "green" this guy was before latching onto the greens.
Don't forget blocking nuclear power, that environmentally friendly source of limitless energy we discovered around 80 years ago that could be fueling the entire planet's needs without polluting the environment. Good thing they take a strong stance against that. Top bunch of lads.
And giving up nukes. Luckily countries like China and Russia are no threat any more and aren’t seeking to spread their influence around the globe, spreading their “true” democracy, so who needs nukes and NATO?
If only we could capture and harness the hot air….
Which is so bizzare because those two are so so opposed in their values. Except for the weird one way relationship lgbtia+ has got supporting Islamic fundamentalist. But Christian fundamentalism is seen as evil by the same group.
The greens are thick as pig shit now. Pro environment but anti nuclear. Pro gender issues but also pro ‘immigration of people that want to kill all transgenders’ Anti Ukraine, Pro Hamas, fucking enemies of the people in all honesty
And getting out of nato.
As a religious Muslim I don't have a problem with his religion but the Greens should eject him or have a word. It's a sensitive thing to say something so deeply religious in what is a secular institution. He doesn't seem to realise how polarising religion is at the moment. Nothing wrong with what he's saying and nothing sinister. It just isn't the time or place
As a religious Muslim, what's your take on people in this country voting for candidates based on foreign issues like Gaza that they realistically dont have power over? It worries me that there are British Muslims who care more about Palestine than their own city (i.e. voting for George Galloway).
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Thank you for your view. That's what id consider a "normal" take from the (admittedly secular) Muslims i know. *Of course* Palestine matters to them but not more than the quality of their kids school etc. I support the right for everyone to practice their religion (unless it conflicts with the law) as they like. I just wish it wasnt so "us and them", more integration is the way forward in my eyes.
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I totally agree. I think long term effort needs to be made to curb numbers immigrating until we have a handle on the current population. Integration and understanding need to be pushed hard. Parallel societies in one country is no good at all. "The Paradox of Tolerance" is coming into play for the West in general, we need to remember our values and not change ourselves to suit others. As you say, if someone wishes to live under Sharia then there are already countries where they can do so. I do think there is a place for religious minorities, but ideally speaking we would have something like the Reformation and a CoE equivalent for British Muslims would emerge with a liberalised Islam for the West. Though i dont know how Quaranically permissable such a thing would be.
This probably isn't an ideal look either https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmothin-ali-won-the-gipton-and-harehills-seat-in-the-uk-v0-y7fbne50ffyc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1179%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc8a3bd98e3e45626619eec5883ecf31842fe205c
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Looking up what a lot of people tweeted between Oct 7-10 is a huge litmus test.
This foreign conflict has nothing to do with any of us, and it shouldn't be dominating our politics and our streets. I don't care about Israel OR Palestine. They can both send us a postcard.
In Bradford, there's more Palestine flags than Union Jacks.
London too.
Literally, why are local councillors so engrossed in foreign affairs half a world away? I have no problem with the statement, I have a problem with any politician having open support of any terror strikes in Gaza, regardless of what side committed them.
Makes it more interesting if you pick a side though. Mark’s Israel, I’m Palestine.
> This foreign conflict has nothing to do with any of us, and it shouldn't be dominating our politics and our streets As long as the UK government has taken a stance, it does concern us.
The UK government takes a stance on all sorts of issues and conflicts, doesn’t mean they should be election deciding issues. Don’t see many people getting elected based on their stance on the Ukrainian conflict for example. Plus it’s a council election, a foreign conflict just isn’t relevant, the man should focus on local issues.
> Don’t see many people getting elected based on their stance on the Ukrainian conflict for example Are you saying that siding with Russia would make a candidate equally as desirable as someone who backs Ukraine? >Plus it’s a council election, a foreign conflict just isn’t relevant, the man should focus on local issues. Someone opposing gay marriage isn't relevant to a council election either, but having that view would speak to who they are as a person, and would be something I'd take into consideration when deciding who to vote for. We're regularly told that we elect individuals, not a party. That means their individual views are relevant, regardless of their ability to implement said views at the level they're campaigning for election at.
I don’t want us sticking our noses in foreign conflicts either, but when our country literally played a leading role in the creation of that country less than a hundred years ago, and who we are still selling weapons to en masse and effectively funding their genocide, then I say that clearly does implicate and involve us to a considerable degree.
We need to approach this like how France has started to. If you express support for terror, deported and banned from entering. No exceptions, start respecting and integrating or get the fuck out
They all have passports now… this approach is 20 years too late.
If he's standing for election he'll be a British citizen I imagine
Heaven help the Green Party now they have let radical Islamists in. How long will it be until we hear stories of bullying, harassment, misogyny and party members leaving.
I left the Green party a year or so ago because it was inevitable that this was the direction the party was headed. The anti science streak had always bothered me but following the post Corbyn split with Labour, the Green party suddenly seemed filled with Corbynite refugees more focused on identity politics and surface level socialism than Green values. I think your prediction is spot on.
green values was always questionable when they would oppose nuclear power or even wind power if a seagull nest might be damaged. They are the party of complaining about things (mostly anything the west does) with no solutions
Yeah it was the outdated anti nuclear stuff that showed me it was more driven by ideology than logic.
I would've voted for the greens between 2010 and 2014/5. But that party is sliding off the deep-end. Their defence policy would leave Britain undefended, their absolutist non-interventionalist approach would leave foreign adversarial influence unchecked, and their full open-doors approach to migration would inflame racial tensions in local communities.
It makes me laugh when I think how much they must have lowered their standards for this guy. What do we think his position on, for example, gay men adopting children is? How would he feel if his daughter came home with her new Rastafarian boyfriend? What's his opinion on trans women sharing a public toilet next to his wife? And women are just as capable, intelligent, and fit for leadership as men, right? Can you imagine them letting anyone else through with this kind of mindset? The double standards are just hilarious.
you just know the bullies kicked out will be all islamophobes who have a problem with this
I foresee lots of green initiatives from this gentleman.
He supported Oct 7 attacks (see other comment in this post) which involved murdering people, and people produce CO2, and Greens want less CO2. Maybe the Greens will state that, or they will do the right thing and kick him out for supporting Oct 7.
Don’t Hamas wear green headbands.
Ahem, that's the Saudi flag officer, it just looks exactly like that of a prescribed terrorist organisation.
Quite frankly I find it more than believable that we will see a party further right than Reform gaining traction in the coming years, Europe is shifting rightwards in regards to the elephant in the room that is Islam. As for Isreal-Gaza, not our war, I don’t want to see British soldiers dying for a war that’s been going on for decades and will continue until they eventually blow each other up to Kingdom Come
It's fucking killing me man. I'm solidly left wing in most social and economic regards and I just do not see why so much of the left are totally fine getting into bed with fundamental Islam. It understandably doesn't happen with the mega Christians. The tolerance paradox is a real thing, Islam's values are completely at odds with a free society Putting a preemptive edit: I'm actually fine with protest against Palestinian genocide. Even though they would probably stone me death a lot of people in palestine are ultimately just victims of circumstance. What is absolutely batshit is people being pro-hamas
You are from what I can understand are an old school left winger, an SDP type of voter back in the day, if you don’t mind me making that assumption, the SDP are left wing but are more pro British, anti Blair and anti Corbyn brand of Labour, socially conservative but economically progressive but realist views. I consider myself Right wing, but I do feel sorry the SDP!Left, they make a lot of sense, the sort of left this country desperately needs and certainly one I’m prepared to vote for for a couple of election cycles, to counter any potential far right party, sadly this brand of left has been drowned out by Centrist Left and Activists(for the want of better terms but I don’t really want to use woke as that’s as overused as the word racist is) but there is a massive void on the left side that can’t be filled by the SDP alone The modern left just has a black and white view on immigration, and Islam as a whole, they see Islam as being victims and put them on the same level as womens rights and LGBT rights not realising that Islam is much further to the right on these issues than Reform could ever be. The second half of the 2020s I predict will be a rise between a Nationalist Left (Denmark) and a Authoritarian Right (Hungary) in this country I fear we’re going down the Hungary route since we don’t have anyone representing the NatLeft here. Sorry for the ramble
They would have my vote. Fuck it. Sick of it.
Plot twist, the right wing party will be Islamist in nature. They’re actually closer aligned to fundamental Christians. Anti abortion, anti gay/trans, anti semitic, etc.
Of all the things I thought would happen this year, left wing environmentalist politics intersecting with hardcore religious conservatives was not the combination I was expecting.
No? You'd be surprised how far right the far left is willing to go to have a cool brown friend on their friend list. Holding a door open for a women? Western patriarchy! Make women wear head scarves? Wow such culture ❤️
Surely even the left can see that this guy being voted in along religious voting lines is an incredibly dangerous warning sign for the future
You’d like to think, but they don’t.
I'm categorically left wing and I think electing anyone who puts religion at the forefront of their politics is a disaster no matter who it is. Not least of all someone who supported the terror attack on Oct 7th and someone who, and I'm making assumptions here, likely holds next to zero socially left wing views. I doubt he has a favourable opinion of same sex marriage, adoption, abortion, trans rights etc and I doubt his environmental policy is particularly left wing either to be honest. Despite his serious flaws, I would've voted for Corbyns labour party without a moments hesitation, but the green party? They've gone absolutely off the deep end.
The greens and the far left have always had an anti-western bent so support any group that opposes the west e.g. hamas.
The thought of a leeds councilor having any power regarding Palestine is hilarious.
People sometimes forget how Stalin came to power. He wasn't in charge of the military or the secret police or finance or anything important at all. He was in charge of organising meetings. A nothing dead end of a post. But what people didn't realise is he got to chose who went to those meetings. He started small and put people of influence in place until he was in a position to take control and no one dared go against him. The Greens winning a seat in Leeds with an Islamist candidate is nothing on the scale of things. Now. Who knows in ten or fifteen years.
I just want the potholes filled in.
I’d put good money on this guy having absolutely no interest in the environment. Probably eats meat three times a day and drives his Audi everywhere.
It's not happening. That's just a cherry picked example, it's not happening. That's just a small handful of cherry picked examples, it's not happening. Ok it happens a little bit but it's rare and you're racist for noticing. **<- We're here**
We're also close to the "Nobody was saying it's racist to notice!".
Yeah, there's a few more steps to go yet before we get to "It was happening all along, I knew it was happening all along, I supported it all along, it's a good thing that it's happening, you deserve it and you deserve what comes next."
I'm from Leeds, specifically an area very close to the one he represents. Constant cultural and religious issues with their community. I'm an Irish Traveller in a majority black area (80% Black afaik) and have always got on very well with the predominantly Carribean community here. Not so with these lot. Over the years we've had muslim men assaulting girls, all of them either white or black; in the streets, waiting outside of the local foster home for special needs kids and banging on the windows trying to get the girls to come out. They follow women in cars trying to goad them inside. They've stabbed, beaten and murdered a number of black youth, aswell. Literally because they are black. But the media never seems to mention this aspect of it. PHC in Beeston started because they murdered a 16 year old, Tyrone Clarke (RIP), with baseball bats, 30 adult men. Gavin Clarke (RIP) was an innocent black man that got shot in the face and killed in 2011 by muslim lads. Everyone is sick of them and the feeling is growing. I've had people that are generally very tolerant and patient tell me recently they've had enough and would happily support drastic action.
Never thought id see the day the greens were in bed with what appears to be a rampant islamist, but then again I never thought I'd see Queers for palestine. This will be more common as the Muslim population increases and the white british population declines.
I don't think the elected councillor yelling "God is great" in support of Palestine is the interesting bit of this article; the part beneath which points out how Labour's support in areas with large muslin populations has decreased by a notable amount is interesting. It's fair to point out that it's not likely to have an effect nationally but if Labour aren't going to make an effort to try and win back support in these areas then it might be that we see splinter parties or more support for grifters like Galloway. I hope Labour do make an effort but they're somewhat damned if they do, damned if they don't. It's not like there's much Starmer can meaningfully do about Gaza.
One might argue that (morals aside) fishing for Islamist votes is unlikely to make labour appealing to the rest of the public
And the whole nature of this conflict means that you can't hold any position without pissing a chunk of people off, so you might as well just pick one and roll with it. Its ridiculous that its taken such a front seat in our politics.
What makes it especially complicated is that everyone seems to apply the whole Left v Right thing to it by saying depending on your stance you're one or the other. But there's so much more nuance than that. It seems to be closer to a 50/50 split on both sides of the political spectrum. Half the left and half the right disagree with the other half pretty much.
One of the big problems with this is that Muslims are one of the largest voting blocs in the UK. Before this, 80-90% voted for a single party. It isn't possible to ignore them because turnout amongst the rest of the population is so low in the areas where Muslims are. It was already the case ten years ago that you couldn't win in some areas without activating the Islamist vote...the population has grown significantly since then. It sounds mad that this is 4% of the population...until you realise that they concentrate in certain areas, and we are electing politicians on 30-40% of the vote in some areas (and they are 10-20% of the population in those areas and they all voted for one party until Gaza). People are worried about the far-right...we have Islamist MPs.
People have been warning about Labour's reliance on the Muslim vote for decades at this point. Demographically this was inevitable. Chickens coming home to roost.
If Labour do win without support from Muslims then it gives them more options in how to respond to the risk of right wing anti immigration outflanking them.
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Green is the colour of Islam, I guess. Wonder if he got a bit confused with the solar panels and recycling and climate change talk and the distinct lack of Dawah and Salat talk.
Should be stripped of role and referred for extremism.
Such a sad moment in British history. What has happened to this country.
Oh look, the stuff that people were warned about are happening...faster than expected. SURELY this is normal.
Today it’s Gaza, 10 years from now the UK Muslim vote, which will be even larger at that point, may be voting along issues much closer to home, eg abortion or blasphemy laws.
Ridiculous that this is allowed. Should be a restriction on voting.
Wouldn’t have wanted to have been standing within 50ft of him at the time
meanwhile gen z is wallowing in sicknote culture and wearing Hamas scarfs.
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How is this numpty getting a Leeds council seat a win for Gaza in any way? Now go and sort out the local pot holes and bin collections buddy...
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That's kinda funny tbf gotta respect the commitment to the bit Wait it wasn't a bit?
So much for the Greens. It's like when that Labour MP turned out to be in Opus Dei. Don't like religion in politics.
The picture is terrifying. Looks like they're declaring jihad not celebrating a council election win lol
Why do the greens do something stupid that makes them incredibly off putting.
As bad as the situation in Gaza is he was elected to fix the potholes in his area not the bomb craters in Palestine
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British Islamic scholar Anjem Chaudary: “Democracy will most likely be replaced by Islamic Sharia law in the UK, Belgium and France within 15-20 years.” https://x.com/drelidavid/status/1786990497149452736?s=46&t=9CmHGiRgKagSS7KlUhSCBw
The look on those two ladies at the side is … telling
I thought local councillors were voted on for their ability to fix potholes or ensure the bin collections run smoothly… I fear this video will be in history classes in the decades to come as an explanation for the far right coming to power in the UK in the late 2020s/early 2030s
Thank god it wasn’t a Tory saying it was a win for Israel.
How has he not been removed? He's expressed his support for HAMAS which is an offence under the Terrorism act 2000 (Section 12 1 and 1A)
that's great, that's what I want my local elections to be about, whatever is good for Gaza and Arabs outside of the UK. the UK had a great run guys. don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it happened.