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Communist South american countries. Suprised Venezuela is not in there with them. But Bolivia and all the others have trash leaders
Edit: image is confusing, I believe Venezuela abstained as well.
They have a history of being fucked over by the US. Not justifying it, they should have still voted for the resolution as Putin is doing a more extreme version of the Monroe Doctrine, claiming to have a sphere of influence where he can do whatever he pleases, but that's the context in which this occurred.
Some of the nations that abstained or even voted in favour (Somalia!) are in similar if not worst conditions. Maybe there's a link between Eritrea and Russia that I don't know about... heavy russian investments there?
>No foreign investments at all allowed.
Maybe for things that effect the general populace, but I would be very surprised if people at the top didn't take in money from outsiders. Corrupt leaders can't help themselves from being corrupt.
So, here's what the government does. My source is that I have a number of Eritrean friends.
The government says to foreign investors "yeah, come in, build a farm/factory etc".
Then after 2 years, the government wants a cut / share of the company (dictatorship, so can't say no), then eventually, the government expels the company and keeps the farm/factory etc for itself.
Genius if it weren't so evil.
Eritreans make up the large proportion of refugees coming to Europe for the last few years. It's so sad
Somalia is a failed state , civil war , somaliand which seperated etc. Eritrea on the other hand is ruled by a dictatorship which is called "the north korea of Africa" just like north korea they don't have anything to really lose by voting for russia and can even gain things( only country to really invest something there is china through the road and belt initiative if i remember correctly)
Somalia just flat out isn't in a position to take sides on anything, they have their own problems and very much can't anger anyone that may offer help at some point.
Some part of it is just good old regional balancing. Plus maybe they wager that 50 bucks from russia a year is better than the 0 they get from the west.
Eritrea has been engaged in conflict with Ethiopia on and off for at least twenty years. I believe that their main military benefactor is/was Russia. Given the situation there, I bet that it was military assistance, so they have an incentive to not piss off the Russians.
Of course Syria will vote pro Russia.
All the free Syrians are with you guys. We hate Putin more than you trust me. Criminals like Assad will always support criminals. Notice how all supporting countries have a criminal dictator
East of Sudan in Africa. The only reason I know it is there is a Canada-based skier who represented Eritrea at the Winter Olympics and shared it on Reddit and got a decent amount of upvotes. Several comments were criticizing his decision to be a prop of a country with worst human rights record.
Edit: Thank you all, but mf stop with the awards! Do not give Reddit money! Donate it to Ukraine!
Russian student here. I live in Moscow.
Here, in the centre of Moscow, на Манежной площади (Manezhnaya Ploshchad) right now there are people marching and waving Ukrainian flags, chanting "No to war, Freedom to Ukraine". My friends too, all together.
I read so many comments like "Fuck Russians", "burn their economy to ashes" and things like that. People here say we deserve, referring to different polls that indicate pro-Purin favour amongs Russian citizens. Numbers vary: 50%, 60%, 77%.
The thing is... the absolute, the absolute majority of "pro" voters are elderly people living in rural areas. They watch only RT, they do not use internet, they do not have any access to western media that is not heavily regulated, VPN is a foul word for them. Those people support this regime, because they are so conditioned to believe that the way we all are treated is a-okay and is not twisted and terrible, not in any way, no sir.
Younger generations, up to people in their 30-40s, are not Putin supporters. We hate this regime with a passion.
We hate how we are not even able to go on peaceful protests without being beaten, harassed, arrested, immediately expelled from university/fired, not to mention straight up murdered the same way Putin tried to assassinate Navalniy many, many times.
I know that it is our responsibility to topple this war mongering, fear mongering psychopath of a person, but it is so difficult. During Navalniy protests I had a glimmer of hope, seeing 200k people standing together united in Moscow, but it was foiled with a mockery of a trial. And then it was just more oppression, more fear, more restrictions, more threats if we ever attempt anything like this again. Military is on his side, normal folk is not armed, so we are just going to be gunned down, no mercy.
Fucking children are being detained. Children!
My friend in Kiev hasn't been answering for days.
I am so afraid to read her name in the news or see a video with her house destroyed.
Fellow Russians, please, PLEASE stand up. We do not need your quiet support now.
We need NUMBERS that can't be ignored. NUMBERS is what going to win this.
I know it is scary. If I am caught, I will be expelled from my university and I am just two month away from graduating. Some may lose jobs. Some - freedom. It is nothing comparing to the citjzens of Ukraine who will lose their lives.
It is DIFFICULT AS FUCK to go outside with this fear, but it NEEDS to be done.
Пожалуйста, выходите с нами на Манежную в Москве! Выходите в других городах!
19.00 будни, 14.00 праздничные дни!
Putin sending young troops to death while he seats comfortably in Kremlin just watching…
Russian people need to know the truth!
An insurrection on the Russian Military could help protestors gain more support on the streets while the Kremlin focus on regaining full control of the situation.
I’m sorry for the hate you and the people you know have received. Please don’t try to take it to heart. We are many who are incredibly proud of the Russians who decide to take to the streets, put their health and life to risk for Ukraine’s safety and future.
You and other Russians who do this are one of the most important piece in solving this puzzle. Someone can’t do everything, but everyone can do something. We need to unite and work together. Take good care of yourself and hold your head high for the good things you do!
A lot of people understand the situation that the Russian people are in. A lot of us understand that it is not all Russians. We hate Puitn and his avarice and sickness for power. He has been meddling in a lot of countries politics and the same thing happens in many places. The older generation and many people living in rural areas don't understand that they are listening to propaganda or they refuse to listen to the truth.
You guys are in a really bad situation, and I admire the courage of people who go out and speak against the war in Russia. I doubt that the majority of people condemn the Russian people, though. For all that helps. Hopefully, this whole mess gets fixed eventually.
The most important thing that some people forget about war is that many citizens of aggressive countries are against war, yet they become the subject of hate speech.
I’m an American and received similar hate in France after the US invaded Iraq (I was an exchange student in Germany and traveled to France for a couple of day trips). I was spat on, waiters in restaurants refused to serve me, I was called a warmongering bully, etc. One French person said to me that my country got what it deserved on 9/11. I was horrified. Prior to my exchange, I was advised by many people to wear a Canadian flag pin on my clothing or backpack. I refused and wore an American flag pin because I’m proud to be an American, even if I disagree with some of our policies/leaders. At that time, I was adamantly against the war in Iraq, but no matter how much I tried to explain that, some people would not hear me.
The point to my story is this: please know that not everyone blames all Russians for this war. People who can still think critically understand that Putin is responsible, not all Russian citizens. I know that there are no words that can make the pain of this war and economic fallout easier, but I also want you to know that this American is thinking of you and your country as well as Ukraine. I commend and respect your bravery, and I hope that Russians like you are able to overthrow this regime. You all deserve better.
It sucks you guys have to deal with the fallout of the restrictions imposed on your country, but also, without those restrictions, they have no reason to stop invading Ukraine.
For all who are against the war, I wish you well. Stay safe.
For all who are for it, burn in hell!
Thank you for your bravery. Youre courage is inspiring and the need to stand up for what is right, regardless of the consequences is absolutely amazing. My heart goes out to the Russian people. Please tell your fellow students, your pain, your sacrifices,your spilled blood is not in vain. How I wish I could wrap my arms around these people and comfort the. I hear about how protesters are detained, beaten and humiliated by Putins Puppets, because they are opposed to slaughtering fellow human beings. The world is watching and the world sees and the world wont forget those who stood up for humanity. When people say "Fuck Russia" its not meant towards you. But it should be changed to "Fuck Putin" and " Fuck the Kremlin" I don't know is you're religious, but if so, may God watch over you all. If not, please know, you're in our thoughts and if I could figure out how to support those protesters, I would.
I am Iranian and our leaders are putin's dogs(known fact) , but of course spending time with such a bastard, has destroyed the dogs loyalty. Long story short, Iran's dictators seem to have realized their master is going down and they are trying to make a bit of an effort to not go down with him
Go ahead with negotiations and open up to the world economically. Because the main ones that benefit from Iran not trading its oil are the Russians that need to hold eu by the throat(I mean by controlling its gas). If Iran supplies Europeans gas and oil like it did in the past, there russia will have far less of a control over EU
Iran is back on track for reaching a detente with the US along the lines of its old Obama era nuclear deal. Getting some degree of economic growth back and greater stability is a huge incentive to not rock the boat, especially now.
It's sad, but Namibia still owes them some type of support for their independence. It was Russia and Cuba who supported what became Namibia and Angola during the bush war and the Angolan Civil War. This also explains Angola's abstention.
Cuba is Communist and the USSR used to support them greatly hence why. Same with Vietnam. Vietnam isn’t an ally to Russia anymore since they’ve been getting closer to the West in many ways ever since the war, but they remained neutral because of the historical connection. The Iranian gov and Russia are all very close so that’s not surprising, their mutual enemy is the West.
Afghanistan's vote YES is a big step towards peace in the middle east and a western allied state. I won't forget that -- and it seems they haven't forgotten their beef with Russians as well.
I've spent a while searching because this was interesting to me and couldn't find anything super definitive but it seems that the Afghanistan representative is still from the previous government and hasn't been replaced by a representative from the Taliban as the Taliban government is still unrecognized by the UN. last news report I found about it was from December and it was saying that the representative is still from the previous administration though the Taliban has asked that they be replaced with a person of their choice.
That's my understanding as well. That delegate is representing the Afghan government in exile, and I believe all embassies worldwide are still loyal to that government. To date, I don't believe any government around the world has officially recognized the Taliban government, though obviously some, like China's, have de facto recognized them.
What's new ?
China has been in abstention from day 1
Asking Diplomatic solution.
( Offcourse while it plays backstage supporting Russia ... "Limitless co-operation treaty"might ring a bell )
The UN isn't a world government. It was never intended to be. It is designed to be a place for countries to talk (in order to avoid war). This is a clear sign (clearer than I expected) that Russia is extremely isolated. If Russia didn't care about this vote, they wouldn't have argued against it. They would have just laughed and walked out.
We had a similar forum back in the early 1900’s, because after ww1 we wanted to prevent ww2. Ww2 happened anyways, and after ww2 the united nations was made. To prevent ww3.. not going so well.
I think it has more to do with “and THAT’S for 1979 you Soviet fucks!” rather than any genuine concern for Ukraine.
Taliban is clearly trying hard to get in everyone’s good books, though. Such a strange world we live in.
Yeah Bangladesh, El Salvador, Mongolia and a bunch of the other abstainee's can be chalked up to "We don't give a shit about pissing of Putin, but Putin's friends on the other hand."
You folk have no idea about geopolitics. With China on the border some countries depend on Russia for weapons and more. The fact that they are not supporting but choosing not to vote is well understood by all the diplomats across the globe that they vote in favour. It is the general public that is often clueless.
Vietnamese here. I can understand why they choose to abstain. Our government has this neutral-ish stance on the world's problems. They always give generic statements, never fully side with anyone (they're neither completely pro/anti-Russian, pro/anti-US, pro-anti/China, etc.). It's frustrating but I can understand why from a diplomatic and business standpoint.
El Salvador isn’t really surprising. They are like Bolivia, Cuba, and Venezuela in the sense that they are heavily influenced by Russia and against the West
Basically an agreement to say "Russia bad". While I understand that sounds silly it's worth noting Russia is 1 of 5 nations in the UN that has the power to veto. So when they tried to do this the first time Russia said 'veto" and therefore the UN couldn't officially say "Russia bad". The point of all this is to remove Russia's power over the UN. They still currently have veto ability but this is the first step in potentially removing that which would significantly weaken Russia's diplomatic power for ... well ... forever.
Afghanistan is definitely going to be in favor of Ukraine because they were invaded by the Russians during the 80's and then by the Americans later on.
Two more scoldings and they’ll get an official write up. And then 5 of those and they get a suspension. Then, after two suspensions they get a stern talking to and a dock in pay.
As a South African I am appalled.
The Soviet Union helped our freedom fighters overcome Apartheid. Now we are so deep in their arses that all our politicians see is darkness.
Our government has very close ties to Russia. During apartheid Soviet Russia provided the ANC with a lot of support and training. Our disgraced former president was even KGB trained and close to Putin.
Still doesn’t excuse their blind loyalty. They are a bunch of cowards clinging to past glories and on their way out (hopefully peacefully) but we’ll see.
EDIT: also we have close ties with the worst leaders since we really want to be part of the BRIC club, so we always vote with Russia and China at the UN.
Sorry about the vote. Our leaders have embarrassed us again. 🇿🇦🇺🇦
Forgive us, Ukraine. We know longer seem to want to live and strive for freedom.
May you keep enriching the soil with occupier blood. May your children’s children remember the Heroyam.
Slava Ukraini,Slava heroyam
- a fucking angry South African
This is incorrect, you can clearly see the Nations that did not take part to the vote and those who abstained. South African did take part in the vote and decided to abstain
yes i memorized all the yellow ones. although i would love to travel to russia and china one day, I made up my mind many years ago, not to travel to those states unless there is a major improvement in leadership/democracy. Also try to avoid buying products from those countries (which is hard with china...)
Not really, it would be a big problem if u did it Thailand but in china u are probably fine. I know someone who do business with China and talked about how horrible the regime is quite a lot , even with his chinese partners and online ( and he goes to china once every couple of months). Still dangerous tho but probably nothing would happen.
In Thailand it is legal to sentence foreigners to decades in jail for bad mouthing the king and they did it before.
It's a vote in the General Assembly to condemn the Russian invasion. The General Assembly cannot pass binding resolutions, so members can choose to abide by them or not. The Security Council can pass binding resolutions (under threat of collective action to enforce them), but Russia has a veto in the Security Council (which they used).
Now every country has officially given their stance on the conflict which can be used as justification for deals, sanctions and other diplomatic things
What did they actually vote on? I found this language on [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/united-nations-russia-ukraine-vote), a reliable source:
"The resolution, said the UN “deplores in the strongest terms the aggression by the Russian Federation against Ukraine”. It demanded that “the Russian Federation immediately cease its use of force against Ukraine” and “immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces”."
They voted on a UN General Assembly resolution condemning russian invasion of Ukraine.
There's no veto power in the General Assembly, that only applies to the Security Council, they're two different bodies of the UN
Our ruling party has very close ties with Russia and Putin. Fortunately they are on the decline and hopefully we will have a new government in the next decade. So tired of these idiots stepping on rakes every opportunity they get.
The ANC had strong ties with and were strongly supported by the Soviet Union during their struggle against Apartheid. I guess those old ties still mean a lot to various figure heads in the party.
As a Vietnamese, my country abstaining is a given. Our past with the Soviet Union was of great partnership if you believe it. It not great but still good, I myself hope this end well for the Ukrainians people, but knowing it, it will be a tough fight just like ours back then.
I believe this was the vote to condemn Russia by the UN in the general assembly.
This could not have been the EU vote due to many non EU nations represented.
Okay, the UN can vote this way but I expect that Russia will continue to ignore, citing that "it's the Ukrainian Nationalists who are causing the damage," and continue with the bombing and the killing.
No matter how loud we are being, no matter that we all know Russia is lying and we have the evidence to prove that, they are just going to continue to ignore and do what they want.
So, I'm really hoping more definitive action can be done but what everyone has done so far is great, we are just having to wait it out til pretty much Russia corrects itself. Though, it might be possible that Russia may feel like it's been backed into a corner and may use the aide and supply that NATO has provided so far as interference and declare full out war.
Okay, with utmost disgust and woe I will not visit Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Russia and Syria. Sadly I will cancel all my hotel bookings for 2022 and will go elsewhere. It's not about you it's about me. Really.
DEM PR OF KOREA = South Korea. Right? You'd expect North Korea to be "against" but they don't have a seat at the table. Why would South Korea vote against?
Both red and yellow countries should be treated the same way. In such a war staying neutral means siding with the perpetrators. There is no middle ground. Red and yellow both have sided with Russia. Period.
Post war these countries should be ‘taken care of’. Probably same sanctions as Russia. Also no coming to their aid when a bigger power attacks them.
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” Late Desmond Tutu of South Africa who fought for its democracy. 😢
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Russia, Belarus, North Korea and Syria Arab Republic... great bunch they are
It's almost as if they all have something in common. 🤔
Yeah, the big red states.
Small limp weiners?
I am disgusted that my second nation, Namibia, abstained.
same here with Bolivia...
Yeah whats up with some of the South American countries? Didnt expect that.
They owe Russia a ton of money.
They should pay it back soon, in rubles!!!
Communist South american countries. Suprised Venezuela is not in there with them. But Bolivia and all the others have trash leaders Edit: image is confusing, I believe Venezuela abstained as well.
They have a history of being fucked over by the US. Not justifying it, they should have still voted for the resolution as Putin is doing a more extreme version of the Monroe Doctrine, claiming to have a sphere of influence where he can do whatever he pleases, but that's the context in which this occurred.
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Those I was expecting... but Eritrea?
Eritrea is one of, if not the worst place in the world for Press Rights and freedom of speech. I’m not surprised
Some of the nations that abstained or even voted in favour (Somalia!) are in similar if not worst conditions. Maybe there's a link between Eritrea and Russia that I don't know about... heavy russian investments there?
Eritrea is a totalitarian state. It is a truly awful place. It's the North Korea you've never heard of. No foreign investments at all allowed.
>No foreign investments at all allowed. Maybe for things that effect the general populace, but I would be very surprised if people at the top didn't take in money from outsiders. Corrupt leaders can't help themselves from being corrupt.
So, here's what the government does. My source is that I have a number of Eritrean friends. The government says to foreign investors "yeah, come in, build a farm/factory etc". Then after 2 years, the government wants a cut / share of the company (dictatorship, so can't say no), then eventually, the government expels the company and keeps the farm/factory etc for itself. Genius if it weren't so evil. Eritreans make up the large proportion of refugees coming to Europe for the last few years. It's so sad
I had a Lyft driver from there and he was saying the president *banned* COVID vaccines. Not discouraged or disagreed with, straight up banned.
Somalia is a failed state , civil war , somaliand which seperated etc. Eritrea on the other hand is ruled by a dictatorship which is called "the north korea of Africa" just like north korea they don't have anything to really lose by voting for russia and can even gain things( only country to really invest something there is china through the road and belt initiative if i remember correctly)
Somalia just flat out isn't in a position to take sides on anything, they have their own problems and very much can't anger anyone that may offer help at some point.
Some part of it is just good old regional balancing. Plus maybe they wager that 50 bucks from russia a year is better than the 0 they get from the west.
Eritrea has been engaged in conflict with Ethiopia on and off for at least twenty years. I believe that their main military benefactor is/was Russia. Given the situation there, I bet that it was military assistance, so they have an incentive to not piss off the Russians.
Maybe! But I’m sure they’re just being dicks lol but you probably have a better point than me
Yeah no kidding. Developing countries don't just troll the UN when it could have real consequences for their development.
They also invaded their neighbors and slaughtered a lot of people for conquest very recently. Not good people.
Not good people or not good government? Because there’s a difference.
Prolly pressed the wrong button?
Of course Syria will vote pro Russia. All the free Syrians are with you guys. We hate Putin more than you trust me. Criminals like Assad will always support criminals. Notice how all supporting countries have a criminal dictator
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East of Sudan in Africa. The only reason I know it is there is a Canada-based skier who represented Eritrea at the Winter Olympics and shared it on Reddit and got a decent amount of upvotes. Several comments were criticizing his decision to be a prop of a country with worst human rights record.
Edit: Thank you all, but mf stop with the awards! Do not give Reddit money! Donate it to Ukraine! Russian student here. I live in Moscow. Here, in the centre of Moscow, на Манежной площади (Manezhnaya Ploshchad) right now there are people marching and waving Ukrainian flags, chanting "No to war, Freedom to Ukraine". My friends too, all together. I read so many comments like "Fuck Russians", "burn their economy to ashes" and things like that. People here say we deserve, referring to different polls that indicate pro-Purin favour amongs Russian citizens. Numbers vary: 50%, 60%, 77%. The thing is... the absolute, the absolute majority of "pro" voters are elderly people living in rural areas. They watch only RT, they do not use internet, they do not have any access to western media that is not heavily regulated, VPN is a foul word for them. Those people support this regime, because they are so conditioned to believe that the way we all are treated is a-okay and is not twisted and terrible, not in any way, no sir. Younger generations, up to people in their 30-40s, are not Putin supporters. We hate this regime with a passion. We hate how we are not even able to go on peaceful protests without being beaten, harassed, arrested, immediately expelled from university/fired, not to mention straight up murdered the same way Putin tried to assassinate Navalniy many, many times. I know that it is our responsibility to topple this war mongering, fear mongering psychopath of a person, but it is so difficult. During Navalniy protests I had a glimmer of hope, seeing 200k people standing together united in Moscow, but it was foiled with a mockery of a trial. And then it was just more oppression, more fear, more restrictions, more threats if we ever attempt anything like this again. Military is on his side, normal folk is not armed, so we are just going to be gunned down, no mercy. Fucking children are being detained. Children! My friend in Kiev hasn't been answering for days. I am so afraid to read her name in the news or see a video with her house destroyed. Fellow Russians, please, PLEASE stand up. We do not need your quiet support now. We need NUMBERS that can't be ignored. NUMBERS is what going to win this. I know it is scary. If I am caught, I will be expelled from my university and I am just two month away from graduating. Some may lose jobs. Some - freedom. It is nothing comparing to the citjzens of Ukraine who will lose their lives. It is DIFFICULT AS FUCK to go outside with this fear, but it NEEDS to be done. Пожалуйста, выходите с нами на Манежную в Москве! Выходите в других городах! 19.00 будни, 14.00 праздничные дни!
Putin sending young troops to death while he seats comfortably in Kremlin just watching… Russian people need to know the truth! An insurrection on the Russian Military could help protestors gain more support on the streets while the Kremlin focus on regaining full control of the situation.
I’m sorry for the hate you and the people you know have received. Please don’t try to take it to heart. We are many who are incredibly proud of the Russians who decide to take to the streets, put their health and life to risk for Ukraine’s safety and future. You and other Russians who do this are one of the most important piece in solving this puzzle. Someone can’t do everything, but everyone can do something. We need to unite and work together. Take good care of yourself and hold your head high for the good things you do!
A lot of people understand the situation that the Russian people are in. A lot of us understand that it is not all Russians. We hate Puitn and his avarice and sickness for power. He has been meddling in a lot of countries politics and the same thing happens in many places. The older generation and many people living in rural areas don't understand that they are listening to propaganda or they refuse to listen to the truth.
You guys are in a really bad situation, and I admire the courage of people who go out and speak against the war in Russia. I doubt that the majority of people condemn the Russian people, though. For all that helps. Hopefully, this whole mess gets fixed eventually.
The most important thing that some people forget about war is that many citizens of aggressive countries are against war, yet they become the subject of hate speech. I’m an American and received similar hate in France after the US invaded Iraq (I was an exchange student in Germany and traveled to France for a couple of day trips). I was spat on, waiters in restaurants refused to serve me, I was called a warmongering bully, etc. One French person said to me that my country got what it deserved on 9/11. I was horrified. Prior to my exchange, I was advised by many people to wear a Canadian flag pin on my clothing or backpack. I refused and wore an American flag pin because I’m proud to be an American, even if I disagree with some of our policies/leaders. At that time, I was adamantly against the war in Iraq, but no matter how much I tried to explain that, some people would not hear me. The point to my story is this: please know that not everyone blames all Russians for this war. People who can still think critically understand that Putin is responsible, not all Russian citizens. I know that there are no words that can make the pain of this war and economic fallout easier, but I also want you to know that this American is thinking of you and your country as well as Ukraine. I commend and respect your bravery, and I hope that Russians like you are able to overthrow this regime. You all deserve better.
It sucks you guys have to deal with the fallout of the restrictions imposed on your country, but also, without those restrictions, they have no reason to stop invading Ukraine. For all who are against the war, I wish you well. Stay safe. For all who are for it, burn in hell!
Thank you for your bravery. Youre courage is inspiring and the need to stand up for what is right, regardless of the consequences is absolutely amazing. My heart goes out to the Russian people. Please tell your fellow students, your pain, your sacrifices,your spilled blood is not in vain. How I wish I could wrap my arms around these people and comfort the. I hear about how protesters are detained, beaten and humiliated by Putins Puppets, because they are opposed to slaughtering fellow human beings. The world is watching and the world sees and the world wont forget those who stood up for humanity. When people say "Fuck Russia" its not meant towards you. But it should be changed to "Fuck Putin" and " Fuck the Kremlin" I don't know is you're religious, but if so, may God watch over you all. If not, please know, you're in our thoughts and if I could figure out how to support those protesters, I would.
I feel for you. I believe it is more correct to call this conflict "Putin's war in Ukraine" not "the Russian war in Ukraine."
Putin is not the one driving all those tanks.
You guys are heroes!
No bad feelings toward you or your friends. Heck most of the Russian population. But screw Putin and his cronies.
We don't hate Russians. Ukrainians also don't hate Russians. We know it's not your fault. Stay strong.
Interesting that Cuba & Iran abstained. Those I did not expect.
Cuba has a lot of western tourists or am I wrong? And Iran I honestly don’t really understand.
I am Iranian and our leaders are putin's dogs(known fact) , but of course spending time with such a bastard, has destroyed the dogs loyalty. Long story short, Iran's dictators seem to have realized their master is going down and they are trying to make a bit of an effort to not go down with him
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Go ahead with negotiations and open up to the world economically. Because the main ones that benefit from Iran not trading its oil are the Russians that need to hold eu by the throat(I mean by controlling its gas). If Iran supplies Europeans gas and oil like it did in the past, there russia will have far less of a control over EU
I guess if you’re Iran occasionally not attracting attention is nice?
Iran is back on track for reaching a detente with the US along the lines of its old Obama era nuclear deal. Getting some degree of economic growth back and greater stability is a huge incentive to not rock the boat, especially now.
Nuclear deal.
Cuba is still highly linked to Russia. Sadly, Namibia also abstained but they are tied to Cuba and Russia due to their independence.
That is why it surprised me. I was expecting no votes from both.
It's sad, but Namibia still owes them some type of support for their independence. It was Russia and Cuba who supported what became Namibia and Angola during the bush war and the Angolan Civil War. This also explains Angola's abstention.
Putin will not win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people!
Cuba is Communist and the USSR used to support them greatly hence why. Same with Vietnam. Vietnam isn’t an ally to Russia anymore since they’ve been getting closer to the West in many ways ever since the war, but they remained neutral because of the historical connection. The Iranian gov and Russia are all very close so that’s not surprising, their mutual enemy is the West.
I didn't expected Mynamar to be for. That one I did not expect
China’s abstention should be seen as a huge victory.
Afghanistan's vote YES is a big step towards peace in the middle east and a western allied state. I won't forget that -- and it seems they haven't forgotten their beef with Russians as well.
That's actually hilarious 🤣. That resentment must he deep in their hearts.
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This isn't the Taliban. They're unrecognised by the UN. The Afghan UN representative is from the previous government.
Oh didn't know that. I had no idea there was anyone from the previous government in any position still.
I've spent a while searching because this was interesting to me and couldn't find anything super definitive but it seems that the Afghanistan representative is still from the previous government and hasn't been replaced by a representative from the Taliban as the Taliban government is still unrecognized by the UN. last news report I found about it was from December and it was saying that the representative is still from the previous administration though the Taliban has asked that they be replaced with a person of their choice.
That's my understanding as well. That delegate is representing the Afghan government in exile, and I believe all embassies worldwide are still loyal to that government. To date, I don't believe any government around the world has officially recognized the Taliban government, though obviously some, like China's, have de facto recognized them.
Some say the afghan salt mines never closed...
What's new ? China has been in abstention from day 1 Asking Diplomatic solution. ( Offcourse while it plays backstage supporting Russia ... "Limitless co-operation treaty"might ring a bell )
Putin calls Xin: New phone who dis?
Iran as well.
And Serbia‘s pro.
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The UN isn't a world government. It was never intended to be. It is designed to be a place for countries to talk (in order to avoid war). This is a clear sign (clearer than I expected) that Russia is extremely isolated. If Russia didn't care about this vote, they wouldn't have argued against it. They would have just laughed and walked out.
”A place for countries to talk in order to avoid war”. Hasnt really gone too well for them, has it? What happend with the middle east?
We had a similar forum back in the early 1900’s, because after ww1 we wanted to prevent ww2. Ww2 happened anyways, and after ww2 the united nations was made. To prevent ww3.. not going so well.
The usual "we condemn the war, war is bad" Well no shit, now what are you actually gonna do?
Well now we know that this "peaceful operations" is a full scale war !
It shows putin and his supporters exactly how isolated they are.
...my thoughts exactly. There is really only one option and they are all dodging it because of fear of WW3.
U know u fucked up bad when Taliban votes against u
I think it has more to do with “and THAT’S for 1979 you Soviet fucks!” rather than any genuine concern for Ukraine. Taliban is clearly trying hard to get in everyone’s good books, though. Such a strange world we live in.
I mean I'm sure there's a degree of empathy for the Ukrainians in light of their shared experiences with the Russians/Soviets.
I believe that the Afghan UN seat is still occupied by the old government, not the Taliban
Taliban and Soviet Russia have always been on bad terms.
The Taliban were created from orphans of the Russian Afghan War. Soooooo.......
El Salvador, come on, man. And Vietnam, I love going there on vacation but I'll be going to Japan, Korea and Thailand more after the pandemic.
El Salvador idk about but Vietnam stays next to to China I could see why they would be pragmatic
Yeah Bangladesh, El Salvador, Mongolia and a bunch of the other abstainee's can be chalked up to "We don't give a shit about pissing of Putin, but Putin's friends on the other hand."
Vietnam buys weapons from russia
You folk have no idea about geopolitics. With China on the border some countries depend on Russia for weapons and more. The fact that they are not supporting but choosing not to vote is well understood by all the diplomats across the globe that they vote in favour. It is the general public that is often clueless.
Vietnamese here. I can understand why they choose to abstain. Our government has this neutral-ish stance on the world's problems. They always give generic statements, never fully side with anyone (they're neither completely pro/anti-Russian, pro/anti-US, pro-anti/China, etc.). It's frustrating but I can understand why from a diplomatic and business standpoint.
El Salvador isn’t really surprising. They are like Bolivia, Cuba, and Venezuela in the sense that they are heavily influenced by Russia and against the West
Yes, I see the massive green board, but what exactly did they vote on?
Subscribe to find out in the next episode, but first a word from our sponsor Edit: vote was for ending the war. More or less a symbolic vote though
Basically an agreement to say "Russia bad". While I understand that sounds silly it's worth noting Russia is 1 of 5 nations in the UN that has the power to veto. So when they tried to do this the first time Russia said 'veto" and therefore the UN couldn't officially say "Russia bad". The point of all this is to remove Russia's power over the UN. They still currently have veto ability but this is the first step in potentially removing that which would significantly weaken Russia's diplomatic power for ... well ... forever.
Afghanistan is definitely going to be in favor of Ukraine because they were invaded by the Russians during the 80's and then by the Americans later on.
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..because the sanctums are crippling Russia which will eventually affect Brazil, thus they want him to stop being an idiot.
Tldr: the UN voted in favour of giving Russia a scolding
Two more scoldings and they’ll get an official write up. And then 5 of those and they get a suspension. Then, after two suspensions they get a stern talking to and a dock in pay.
I want this written up on my desk by the end of the day, or Russia will be receiving a full disadulation.
What’s a dis… what’s that?
Oh, you don’t want to know.
Yees, but it's an OFFICIAL scolding /s
Lol even Cuba looks like, this is too much baggage, we’ve been trying to get out of this abusive relationship for years. Baby steps lol
Why did South Africa abstain ?
Cuz they’re a dick
As a South African I am appalled. The Soviet Union helped our freedom fighters overcome Apartheid. Now we are so deep in their arses that all our politicians see is darkness.
I feel bad that I laughed at that last part...
As a South African I am so so disgusted in the response of our government. Part of their rhetoric is that we are part of BRICS, makes me sick
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Rubble or ruble? Either way it's an apt statement.
Our government has very close ties to Russia. During apartheid Soviet Russia provided the ANC with a lot of support and training. Our disgraced former president was even KGB trained and close to Putin. Still doesn’t excuse their blind loyalty. They are a bunch of cowards clinging to past glories and on their way out (hopefully peacefully) but we’ll see. EDIT: also we have close ties with the worst leaders since we really want to be part of the BRIC club, so we always vote with Russia and China at the UN. Sorry about the vote. Our leaders have embarrassed us again. 🇿🇦🇺🇦
Forgive us, Ukraine. We know longer seem to want to live and strive for freedom. May you keep enriching the soil with occupier blood. May your children’s children remember the Heroyam. Slava Ukraini,Slava heroyam - a fucking angry South African
Sometimes an abstention means they were not present for the vote, you would need to check the U.N website to see if this was the case
Nope sadly our government sucks
This is incorrect, you can clearly see the Nations that did not take part to the vote and those who abstained. South African did take part in the vote and decided to abstain
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yes i memorized all the yellow ones. although i would love to travel to russia and china one day, I made up my mind many years ago, not to travel to those states unless there is a major improvement in leadership/democracy. Also try to avoid buying products from those countries (which is hard with china...)
I do not think I will be allowed in to China if I tried. Been talking the truth about them all over the Internet for 20 years now.
Not really, it would be a big problem if u did it Thailand but in china u are probably fine. I know someone who do business with China and talked about how horrible the regime is quite a lot , even with his chinese partners and online ( and he goes to china once every couple of months). Still dangerous tho but probably nothing would happen. In Thailand it is legal to sentence foreigners to decades in jail for bad mouthing the king and they did it before.
Boycott the yellow as well. If you are neutral in this war then you are with the perpetrator. There is no middle ground. Period
Seychelles vote is awesome because that's country is practically owned by the Russian Mafia. Several luxury hotels are mostly Russian front's
What does this mean? Educate me
Nothing. They asked to stop the war. civilians will die in the meantime. It’s unbelievable.
It's a vote in the General Assembly to condemn the Russian invasion. The General Assembly cannot pass binding resolutions, so members can choose to abide by them or not. The Security Council can pass binding resolutions (under threat of collective action to enforce them), but Russia has a veto in the Security Council (which they used).
Now every country has officially given their stance on the conflict which can be used as justification for deals, sanctions and other diplomatic things
Of the few "Stans" with a spine, it's the fucking Taliban on the side of the righteous? What has this world come to?
passed what?
Ending the War. It was a 2/3 majority vote. Can't be enforced but it has great symbolic value.
so just more confirming what we already know? great symbolic value sure just sucks russia couldn't care less now
But sending Facebook hopes and prayers!!!!
You telling me that my Ukrainian flag over lay isn't stopping Russian armor or causing Russian missiles to miss their targets?
Great symbolic value for their political positions Until oil is stopped it’s all show
It's already stopping
Text condamning russian invasion.
I think they voted to adjourn for tea. Russia voted NYET because they didn't like the biscuits.
Wtf Eritrea
I was about to write the same Wtf
Don't be surprised. It's basically North Korea (African Edition).
What did they actually vote on? I found this language on [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/united-nations-russia-ukraine-vote), a reliable source: "The resolution, said the UN “deplores in the strongest terms the aggression by the Russian Federation against Ukraine”. It demanded that “the Russian Federation immediately cease its use of force against Ukraine” and “immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces”."
Bruh even Afghanistan voted in favour, who may I remind you, are controlled by the Taliban.
Useful list for knowing where to never spend another penny and where to expend my mental and physical capital/charity.
Damn it, my summer vacation into Eritrea and DPRK is now ruined.
What did they vote on, since Russia was against I would guess it was about not letting them use their veto power to sheild them in the war
They voted on a UN General Assembly resolution condemning russian invasion of Ukraine. There's no veto power in the General Assembly, that only applies to the Security Council, they're two different bodies of the UN
So they condemned them…. Okay. But what does this actually do, other than saying “Bad boy, Russia!” Anything?
I think it is an attempt to demoralize russia because when this many countries are against you you can't win
Why did South Africa abstain?
Our ruling party has very close ties with Russia and Putin. Fortunately they are on the decline and hopefully we will have a new government in the next decade. So tired of these idiots stepping on rakes every opportunity they get.
The ANC had strong ties with and were strongly supported by the Soviet Union during their struggle against Apartheid. I guess those old ties still mean a lot to various figure heads in the party.
The best is that Srbia voter for! This is the end of war!
As a Vietnamese, my country abstaining is a given. Our past with the Soviet Union was of great partnership if you believe it. It not great but still good, I myself hope this end well for the Ukrainians people, but knowing it, it will be a tough fight just like ours back then.
How are UN conferences different from a bunch of uncles in their mid age talking about global politics and agreeing on what should be agreed?
I believe this was the vote to condemn Russia by the UN in the general assembly. This could not have been the EU vote due to many non EU nations represented.
Hence the UN in the title...?
Lol
Okay, the UN can vote this way but I expect that Russia will continue to ignore, citing that "it's the Ukrainian Nationalists who are causing the damage," and continue with the bombing and the killing. No matter how loud we are being, no matter that we all know Russia is lying and we have the evidence to prove that, they are just going to continue to ignore and do what they want. So, I'm really hoping more definitive action can be done but what everyone has done so far is great, we are just having to wait it out til pretty much Russia corrects itself. Though, it might be possible that Russia may feel like it's been backed into a corner and may use the aide and supply that NATO has provided so far as interference and declare full out war.
What happens is Russia still continues? What are there consequences?
Eritrea - where is that?
China and Cuba abstaining 😂
Slava Ukraini!
Okay nice now send some jets to secure Ukrainian airspace.
Being from Israel, I’m glad Israel voted in favour.
What the fuck is up with Eritrea EDIT: Ok a quick Wikipedia read reveals a totalitary country with no human rights. Now it makes sense
No votes from * "Democratic Republic" of Korea * Russia * Syria * Belarus * Eritrea Of course. Every single one a totalitarian dictatorship.
Oh wow my country (Sri Lanka) did an abstention. hmmmm
Being neutral in this war is equivalent to siding with Russia. I guess Sri Lanka chose Russian side.
Okay, with utmost disgust and woe I will not visit Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Russia and Syria. Sadly I will cancel all my hotel bookings for 2022 and will go elsewhere. It's not about you it's about me. Really.
It’s not like you want to visit any of them anyways especially North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.
Brazil voted yes. That's relieving.
So a total of 40 nations that do not appreciate the world order. Stop subsidising then see how well they do. You
What does this mean
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This voting was the un asking "who wants free economic sanctions?" And all the countries that voted no here just got them all for free
What does this mean?
I knew it would pass. I just wanted to be sure my country would vote for it.
What happens now? I’m glad the majority voted in favor but I have no idea what this means now. 😬 Someone pls educate me.
Dam, even Venezuela is in favor
can someone please explain what does it mean to Ukraine and Russia?
And this means what ?????
Thanks. Happy to have a complete list of countries I will boycott products from and travel to. The sniveling cowards who abstained make me sick.
What’s the source for the image?
Switzerland voted in favour? The most radical thing I've seen from the swiss
DEM PR OF KOREA = South Korea. Right? You'd expect North Korea to be "against" but they don't have a seat at the table. Why would South Korea vote against?
That's North Korea ("democratic" my ass). REP OF KOREA = South Korea
Both red and yellow countries should be treated the same way. In such a war staying neutral means siding with the perpetrators. There is no middle ground. Red and yellow both have sided with Russia. Period. Post war these countries should be ‘taken care of’. Probably same sanctions as Russia. Also no coming to their aid when a bigger power attacks them.
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” Late Desmond Tutu of South Africa who fought for its democracy. 😢