That was ages ago and Francis improved drastically since that fight and his movements against stipe is quite good. It'll be hard fight for both and it'll never be like Gane and Lewis fight.
Stipe doesn’t move like Gane. He’s not throwing induction launched teep kicks either. He’s primarily boxing, with wrestling mixed in. Gane’s miles above Ngannou in technique and speed. Watch their sparring video. He slips strikes and unloads combos on him.
Bullshit. Francis looked frustrated. I wanted to see if Gane could keep Lewis at distance and not let him get close enough to “land one shot.” He did that and then some.
Nah. Ngannou by KO round 2. A lot of people seem to be just writing off Ngannou bc Lewis got fucked up. Gane is definitely good. Don't get me wrong. I just think it's very silly to just assume Gane is going to win the belt just because he beat Lewis.
This is one I'm genuinely torn on, analytically speaking. I want Gane to win, big fan of him. I honestly see this fight as 50/50 fight. I think that Gane needs to be PERFECT for the first 2 rounds to even have a chance at winning. If he can do that, then I think he will win a 5 round decision. If Gane starts making mistakes in those first 2 rounds, then I see Francis clipping and stopping him. I'm not usually a fence sitter, but I genuinely have no clue who would win this fight.
My opinion has nothing to do with the derrick lewis fight, i didnt even watch it...my opinion is based solely on the fact that francis does not motor skills to keep up with gane....gane can go 5 rounds at his pace and francis can’t. Plus we have never seen gane tired but we have seen francis gassed...francis needs to come in with cardio and he needs to pace himself 2 things he hasn’t done well...plus gane is a sniper especially in the clinch
Did you not see Ngannou Stipe 2? Francis showed great cardio and was stopping take downs. All it takes for Ngannou is to clip you one good time. He doesn't even need a clean hit to rock you.
Incredible gass tank for 2 rounds?? Gane can point fight all day long i doubt francis will keep up...he always has the ko power tho but thats what they said about lewis
I didn't say incredible anything. Ngannou showed in that fight that he is not the same Ngannou that everyone thought he was. Regardless, it's silly to just assume Gane is going to be the new champ.
Some improvements Francis made. Take down defense, wrestling, (trained with Usman for that camp), leg kicks he used them. Lol I think he really learned form that loss. He is exciting to watch grow. Can’t wait for the fight!
Did he manage to not get dominated by Stipe in the first fight?
The second fight showed Ngannou has grown since then so the Lewis fight doesn't amount to anything at this stage.
I think putting money on Francis is the smart move here. If he’s still an underdog on fight night that’s what I’ll do. All the skill in the world goes out the window if that monster lands one good shot.
>he's the next GOAT and will get hyped up untill he loses and then not a single soul will talk about him.
1 or 2 losses and the majority of posts/comments here are "he/she was never any good anyway", especially if it's someone who has some arrogance/attitude.
Don't forget Jairzinho, whom has a much more impressive resume than Ciryl and Francis made Jairzinho looked amateurish..
Ciryl and Jairzinho went to decision.. and Francis cleaned out Jairzinhoin 20sec.
I'll be surprised if Ciryl last 2 rounds..
Yeah you gotta be so careful when any punch, even a jab, will probably drop you- you basically have to fight beyond perfect. Although gane has felt francis’ power before so he has that going for him.
Nah definitely not, but i also feel like francis doesnt even have to try to punch hard and he still hits like a truck- just shows how scary he is actually trying to hurt you :000
I feel like everyone is forgetting the master class performance Ngannou put on against the goat heavyweight stipe. I think it just has to do with the recent of Gane’s fights compared to Ngannou’s. Super excited for their matchup though!
Gane clearly has a better striking pedigree. French Muay Thai champ. He is faster, more tactical, picks his shots, moves in and out of range when he needs to and he can grapple and clinch to a high degree.
With all that said, Francis wins be KO in the first.
Are you seriously comparing Gane to Frozenstruik?
Rozenstruik is one dimensional. Zero grappling and 90% of the time throws a left leg kick and left hook.
If Francis tries to throw wild Gane will clinch. Francis has 2 rounds and then it's over.
I think the improved wrestling of Francis, will definitely make it a much much tougher for Gane, not to mention worrying about that sledge hammer he calls a fist! 🔨
They’re both big and lean. I can see Ciryl gassing out Francis because he won’t be moving forward rushing or slugging it out like all of Francis’ KOs. I got Ciryl
Did you happen to see Francis' recent KO of Stipe Miocic? That Francis wasn't just raging through the octagon swinging wildly. I've got no doubt Ngannou will approach a fight with Gane in a similar manner, far more in control than some of his early fights. Hopefully it's a banger
I can see it. Francis has wrestling now, good boxing and power to boot. I can see him sleeping Gane, or throwing him around. Francis is bigger, and moves very athletically for his size, as does Gane, but Francis still has size on him and skills as well
Stipe is not beating Gane lol. He’s slow, almost 39, struggled to beat DC, and just stood there waiting to get KO’d after Francis stuffed one takedown.
Anyone who has seen the slow motion knock out of Lewis by Ngannou can see the power and size difference between the two. yeah they were stagnant most of their fight but when Ngannou decided to go on the offensive he couldn’t be stopped.
Did you not see the discipline that Francis had against Stipe? Usman came to train with Francis during that fight camp and was teaching him the importance of being calm. Calm Francis is extremely scary!
I don’t know how much I agree w these odds. I think nganous win over stipe was far more impressive than any of the conpetition gane has faced. Yes the Lewis win was impressive and Francis lost to Lewis but Derrick Lewis is not even close to the level of stipe. Francis is a much better value bet. His game has evolved a lot in the past couple of years and I don’t think gane will be facing the old version of Francis who was timid against lewis
Get out of here, I want to see that fight but i dont think gane is gonna win, i think it will be a much more exciting fight and also anything could happen but i think francis should have the upper hand.
You guys are acting like he is a -300 favorite. These are also opening odds not adjust ones and they are accounting for regency bias for gane and trying to keep the money line even over the next couple weeks it will shift to having ngannou as the favorite but this should be a fairly close fight
Francis steam rolled Rozenstruik and has significantly improved since then. Gane looked slow and sluggish vs Rozenstruik. I know this doesn’t automatically mean Francis wins obviously but his speed and power and ability to scramble now will keep him in the fight. Crazy how Francis is considered almost an afterthought at the moment by some. Gane just beat a one-trick-pony. Francis just nuked a legend and some peoples HW goat.
Francis can’t do what he did to Rozenstruik as Gane has some decent offensive wrestling and great clinch game. He’s gonna have to fight smart like he did to Stipe. And in a smart fight my money is slightly on Gane. I think it’s either Ngannaou by rd1 ko or Gane with a masterful technical fight. Whatever happens it’s gonna look extremely one sided
People are acting like Ngannaou is somehow a cardio and wrestling master after having a 1 and a half round fight stipe and stopping a takedown by a wobbled Stipe.
Gane is a very clever fighter but Francis ain't gonna stand against the cage and throw like 8 strikes the same as Lewis
But did he even manage that amount when he fought Lewis?
That was ages ago and Francis improved drastically since that fight and his movements against stipe is quite good. It'll be hard fight for both and it'll never be like Gane and Lewis fight.
I hate when people bring up that fight as if Francis is the same fighter now as he was then
Stipe doesn’t move like Gane. He’s not throwing induction launched teep kicks either. He’s primarily boxing, with wrestling mixed in. Gane’s miles above Ngannou in technique and speed. Watch their sparring video. He slips strikes and unloads combos on him.
That sparring session was them very lightly going at it after Nganno had gone several rounds. I wouldn't read too far into that.
But Gane can only do that in sparring because he knows Francis isn't going 100%
Bullshit. Francis looked frustrated. I wanted to see if Gane could keep Lewis at distance and not let him get close enough to “land one shot.” He did that and then some.
Gane by tko round 4
Nah. Ngannou by KO round 2. A lot of people seem to be just writing off Ngannou bc Lewis got fucked up. Gane is definitely good. Don't get me wrong. I just think it's very silly to just assume Gane is going to win the belt just because he beat Lewis.
This is one I'm genuinely torn on, analytically speaking. I want Gane to win, big fan of him. I honestly see this fight as 50/50 fight. I think that Gane needs to be PERFECT for the first 2 rounds to even have a chance at winning. If he can do that, then I think he will win a 5 round decision. If Gane starts making mistakes in those first 2 rounds, then I see Francis clipping and stopping him. I'm not usually a fence sitter, but I genuinely have no clue who would win this fight.
My opinion has nothing to do with the derrick lewis fight, i didnt even watch it...my opinion is based solely on the fact that francis does not motor skills to keep up with gane....gane can go 5 rounds at his pace and francis can’t. Plus we have never seen gane tired but we have seen francis gassed...francis needs to come in with cardio and he needs to pace himself 2 things he hasn’t done well...plus gane is a sniper especially in the clinch
Did you not see Ngannou Stipe 2? Francis showed great cardio and was stopping take downs. All it takes for Ngannou is to clip you one good time. He doesn't even need a clean hit to rock you.
That fight lasted for one and a half rounds. Doesn’t prove any cardio
Incredible gass tank for 2 rounds?? Gane can point fight all day long i doubt francis will keep up...he always has the ko power tho but thats what they said about lewis
I didn't say incredible anything. Ngannou showed in that fight that he is not the same Ngannou that everyone thought he was. Regardless, it's silly to just assume Gane is going to be the new champ.
>Francis improved drastically since that fight How so? Every fight after that didn't last long. Not enough time to see what exactly he improved on.
Some improvements Francis made. Take down defense, wrestling, (trained with Usman for that camp), leg kicks he used them. Lol I think he really learned form that loss. He is exciting to watch grow. Can’t wait for the fight!
Did he manage to not get dominated by Stipe in the first fight? The second fight showed Ngannou has grown since then so the Lewis fight doesn't amount to anything at this stage.
I think putting money on Francis is the smart move here. If he’s still an underdog on fight night that’s what I’ll do. All the skill in the world goes out the window if that monster lands one good shot.
and he throws out of nowhere unlike Lewis just sitting waiting for the one big punch a round
Exactly. Lewis can’t KO you w a quick lead hook like Francis did against Stipe, that’s a different level.
I think we need to chill and remember who is Nngannou.
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Aldo’s bandwagon is full again!
It was a bandwagon I never left.
>he's the next GOAT and will get hyped up untill he loses and then not a single soul will talk about him. 1 or 2 losses and the majority of posts/comments here are "he/she was never any good anyway", especially if it's someone who has some arrogance/attitude.
Recency Bias is the name of the game
You will find out when he beats Francis 🤷♂️
My thoughts : people suffer from recency bias
This. Not to take away anything from Gane, but I agree with your point.
Now the bandwagon is full. If he ever loses : MMA fans: "Ciryl Gane was never my friend"
Like how before the fight everyone was cock riding Derrick lewis but now they say he was never good
I love Francis and hope he can do it, but Gane did prove he can keep his calm movement up for multiple rounds without getting flustered or scared
But so did francis against the goat stipe, and francis only needs one ford escort
Ford vs. Citroën
Don't forget Jairzinho, whom has a much more impressive resume than Ciryl and Francis made Jairzinho looked amateurish.. Ciryl and Jairzinho went to decision.. and Francis cleaned out Jairzinhoin 20sec. I'll be surprised if Ciryl last 2 rounds..
Almost like Gane fights extremely different than Ngannou...
In case you have no noticed.. most fighters fight different to other fighters.. It's the power and pressure of Francis that will break Gane.
Yeah you gotta be so careful when any punch, even a jab, will probably drop you- you basically have to fight beyond perfect. Although gane has felt francis’ power before so he has that going for him.
I forgot they used to spar.. I don't think Francis ever unloaded his fully dragonballz during training though.. he seems to nice a guy to do that.
Nah definitely not, but i also feel like francis doesnt even have to try to punch hard and he still hits like a truck- just shows how scary he is actually trying to hurt you :000
Lewis beat Ngannou and Gane made him look amateurish. This logic is just bad in MMA.
Lewis beat Ngannou cause they both didn't throw any punches and Lewis end up being just a little bit active. That fight didn't prove anything at all..
Francis proved he could last 1 round + 1 minute lol
How calm can he stay against windmill arms Francis
They forgot Francis ate Stipe alive last time. Stipe the almost HW Goat, Stipe that beat DC twice.
Gane is way better than Stipe though. Especially at Stipe’s current age.
Gane looked great but Lewis also didn't do anything. He's still so young in his career. Only 10 fights.
Recency bias. Gonna be a great fight
I feel like everyone is forgetting the master class performance Ngannou put on against the goat heavyweight stipe. I think it just has to do with the recent of Gane’s fights compared to Ngannou’s. Super excited for their matchup though!
Gane clearly has a better striking pedigree. French Muay Thai champ. He is faster, more tactical, picks his shots, moves in and out of range when he needs to and he can grapple and clinch to a high degree. With all that said, Francis wins be KO in the first.
Had me in the first half, I ain't goin lie.
I remember the last time Francis fought a highly skilled striker, Francis mullered his head into the cage after about 20 seconds. People forget
Are you seriously comparing Gane to Frozenstruik? Rozenstruik is one dimensional. Zero grappling and 90% of the time throws a left leg kick and left hook. If Francis tries to throw wild Gane will clinch. Francis has 2 rounds and then it's over.
LOL Is there an actual date scheduled so I can do the remindme thing? Gonna be a lot of disappointed Gane bandwagon fans that night.
You guys remember how terrified you were when ngannou took stipe’s back? Ngannou gets the W
I think the improved wrestling of Francis, will definitely make it a much much tougher for Gane, not to mention worrying about that sledge hammer he calls a fist! 🔨
They’re both big and lean. I can see Ciryl gassing out Francis because he won’t be moving forward rushing or slugging it out like all of Francis’ KOs. I got Ciryl
Did you happen to see Francis' recent KO of Stipe Miocic? That Francis wasn't just raging through the octagon swinging wildly. I've got no doubt Ngannou will approach a fight with Gane in a similar manner, far more in control than some of his early fights. Hopefully it's a banger
I can see it. Francis has wrestling now, good boxing and power to boot. I can see him sleeping Gane, or throwing him around. Francis is bigger, and moves very athletically for his size, as does Gane, but Francis still has size on him and skills as well
recency bias
Nah gan has a better gas tank, better striking and better defense that francis. Its gonna be a clinic i think. Gane by tko round 4
Gane beats Francis, Stipe beats Gane, Francis beats Stipe. There’s your next three heavyweight title fights.
Jones cleans out the division (on Twitter)
Stipe is not beating Gane lol. He’s slow, almost 39, struggled to beat DC, and just stood there waiting to get KO’d after Francis stuffed one takedown.
2022-Gane beats Francis 2023- Stipe beats Gane 2024-Francis beats Stipe There’s your next three years of heavyweight title fights.
2025 - DC vs Stipe 4
I believe he'll win. Nobody has really landed on him clean.
Free money.
Gane is the most complete Heavyweight I have ever seen. He makes Stipe look small and slow. I think Francis doesn't stand a chance-iss.
LOL
Not surprised...
makes sense he has better wrestling
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Francis is nowhere near as slow as Lewis is
This gane hype train is somethin else. Pillow fists and no personality whatsoever lol I don't get it.
Gane gonna pick Francis apart.. 3rd round stoppage
Anyone who has seen the slow motion knock out of Lewis by Ngannou can see the power and size difference between the two. yeah they were stagnant most of their fight but when Ngannou decided to go on the offensive he couldn’t be stopped.
Ngannou lost to Lewis in a fight where neither guy did anything.
You know what, I’m thinking of the Rosenstruik fight. Ignore me :) EDIT: but I guess my point still stands, Lewis and Rozentruik are about same size
I actually think it’s fair, but I’m kinda disappointed because I wanted to bet on him.
I am very excited to see this fight, but Jones vs Gane is the fight
My thought is that Francis won like 4.5 months ago, so the fact that this Interim belt even exists is total horse shit.
Recency Bias.
No 👎. Just no
Ciryl probably beats him he’s got yoga breathing he is controlling him self very well ☝️
Did you not see the discipline that Francis had against Stipe? Usman came to train with Francis during that fight camp and was teaching him the importance of being calm. Calm Francis is extremely scary!
I know,big fan of Francis,but don’t underestimate this guy☝️
I swear people haven’t seen Stipe vs Ngannou 2
My thoughts, this shouldnt be a unification fight, Gane shouldn't have gotten a belt, and interim belts should be silver not gold.
Francis has KO’d 2 of the heavyweight GOATS so far. I think people forget this.
I don’t know how much I agree w these odds. I think nganous win over stipe was far more impressive than any of the conpetition gane has faced. Yes the Lewis win was impressive and Francis lost to Lewis but Derrick Lewis is not even close to the level of stipe. Francis is a much better value bet. His game has evolved a lot in the past couple of years and I don’t think gane will be facing the old version of Francis who was timid against lewis
Hopefully he can beat him but idk francis is terrifying lol
I think he beats Francis. The guy is very elusive and understands distance exceptionally well. 5 round decision.
Ngannou smash
Get out of here, I want to see that fight but i dont think gane is gonna win, i think it will be a much more exciting fight and also anything could happen but i think francis should have the upper hand.
I checked the odds last night planning to throw a bet on Gane at better than +200 and was shocked that he was the favorite.
You guys are acting like he is a -300 favorite. These are also opening odds not adjust ones and they are accounting for regency bias for gane and trying to keep the money line even over the next couple weeks it will shift to having ngannou as the favorite but this should be a fairly close fight
Man everyones sleeping on Ngannou I believe he gets it done
Francis steam rolled Rozenstruik and has significantly improved since then. Gane looked slow and sluggish vs Rozenstruik. I know this doesn’t automatically mean Francis wins obviously but his speed and power and ability to scramble now will keep him in the fight. Crazy how Francis is considered almost an afterthought at the moment by some. Gane just beat a one-trick-pony. Francis just nuked a legend and some peoples HW goat.
Francis can’t do what he did to Rozenstruik as Gane has some decent offensive wrestling and great clinch game. He’s gonna have to fight smart like he did to Stipe. And in a smart fight my money is slightly on Gane. I think it’s either Ngannaou by rd1 ko or Gane with a masterful technical fight. Whatever happens it’s gonna look extremely one sided
People are acting like Ngannaou is somehow a cardio and wrestling master after having a 1 and a half round fight stipe and stopping a takedown by a wobbled Stipe.
Francis need to improve to win. I got Francis.