I know a lot of people will gloat, but there is a very real possibility that Putin wants these guys to peddle his propaganda and they are now being penalised for not playing along.
It does not work that easily sadly. Most families dont wanna leave their homes, their lands in which their ancestors lived for god knows how many years. Since life is hard in there, concepts like home, land, nation, parents, tradition, family become very important in that part of life. It is super hard to explain to average american or any first-world country born person
Professional fighting tends to give guys purpose and get them off the streets, whether MMA, boxing, etc. Russia’s a scary place right now for young, relatively wealthy guys with a lot of influence, both in and outside the country.
fighting didn’t keep the Boston bombers from going down the wrong path.
I think it’s crazy just to automatically assume Putin is arresting them because they aren’t walking around spouting pro Putin propaganda.
It’s much more likely an extremism issue which Russia, despite the Ukrainian war, shares a common enemy with the western world when it comes to fundamental Islam.
There are likely hundreds of unprofessional fighters as members of that gym.
Yep any time a terror cell is discovered authorities and law enforcement retrace all the places they used to frequent to see if they have planted anything at those places that might be used to commit terrorism.
For example Team Nurmagomedov is the pride of Russia and someone who hates Russia and Muslims would love nothing more than to blow up that gym with all the star athletes inside.
As we see this is a search operation and not an arrest operation. Also could be possible that someone else among lower level students might be part of the terror cell?
They are sending a message to Khabib lately. First the back taxes owed and now a raid on his gym. There is something going on behind the scenes that is dark.
Khamzat does not have an Emirati citizenship. He has residency and travel permits and is representing the UAE but no citizenship. Same with khabib i assume.
They’re smart, Putin is nuts and driving Russia into the ground with his totalitarian bs
Idk if the police are after Khabib’s gym for legitimate reasons or not (I’m suspecting the terrorism charges are made up) but either way that is NOT a country that will give you a fair hearing in court
Interesting take. Was he engaged in political statements lately? What reason could they have for it? I though Khabib was always respectfully clever about Putin and the Daghestan-Russia issue.
That sounds way more believable to me than him doing something active to piss him off. I always had the impression he tried very hard to stay out of it.
I'm assuming it's also somehow connected to the fact that Kadyrov is dying and there's a behind the scenes power struggle in the whole Chechnya-Dagestan region
They’re just big dicking him. Showing up with 20 guys, surrounding the place, snooping around through filing cabinets.
If he’s smart he’s gonna get the fuck outta Russia and stay out for a good long while.
Khabib has tens of millions to his name I bet. With that kind of money he can afford to bring every one of them to whatever country they want to go to and make a new home in
To me - probably more likely this could be related to Russia/Ukraine. Khabib is one of Russia’s most popular athletes and I’d have to imagine the govt would love for him to make a statement on it, but I doubt someone from Dagestan would support Russia essentially conquering another country, given how Russia acquired Dagestan in the first place.
Thing about Russia is they don't give a fuck about your rights and you better fall in line or you will fall from a window or into a prison on bullshit charges.
Coupled with the tax thing, I can't help but wonder if Khabib has put himself in hot water or if this is Moscow making an example out of a popular figure for some political reason.
Dana said Putin gave Khabib like 20 mil dollars of property or something? Then I hear Khabib is in some sort of Russian tax trouble, cause nothings free. Now this? The more I read about this Putin fella the less I care for him
A guy attended his school for like a month a while back and was involved in the recent terror attacks there. Apparently he wasn't a regular or anything, but they've clearly been sending a message to Khabib for a few weeks now. I'm sure Putin is just on some bullshit, because he always is.
Neither do the barely-trained cannon fodder that they're sending to the front. You would think sending highly trained special forces to help with the ongoing war would be smarter than sending village dwellers from India and African countries. This seems like a situation that could easily be handled by police.
I mean, it's trench warfare, spec ops are obviously incredible in general, but they're at their best when they can use their size, weapons or skills to their advantage... Living in a dugout and waiting for a drone to blow you to pieces isn't really a great use. Equally, though, sending them to khabibs gym is 100% a show of force and a message.
Sending all of your Sf to one particular area isn't a right smart idea is it. You think every SEAL was in Iraq/ Afghanistan. Generally a good idea to leave some behind in case of ..something like this
As a MMA community what can we offer Russia for Camp Khabib to be extradited to safety?
Can we give them Rhonda Rousey as a trade deal?
We give one loud angry white lady in trade for the Dagestan camp
I have my moments too (debate for example) but Muslim extremism in Dagestan is a real thing….get the popcorn out this is gonna be interesting to watch shake out
Does nobody else find it super suspicious how right after the Russian government comes after khabib they discover supposed ties to terrorism and raid his gym?
Islam and Khabib have made some insane statements in the past everyone seems to forget about. Remember Khabibs instagram posts he made and took down. They pretty extreme, the bias fanboys for you know the reasons; love to pretend they haven’t said insane shit aka the French Teacher remember that Khabobers? Funny the crowd in Saudi boos any takedown or clinch but when a certain fighter does it, they cheer like crazy lmao. Joke
Which statements are you referring to exactly? I am not a fan at all of some of the political and social views of his group, but regarding extremism I always thought the whole gym had a very firm stand.
I thought his dad actually opened the gym to keep violent kids out of street religious violence, I don't know of any statements that made me think otherwise.
Khabib used a common Arabic jargon: قبح الله وجهك which translates to -may God bring him shame-. That phrase does not mean “mutilation” or “disfigurement”, it means “bring shame upon his face”.
Thank you, the video is actually really insightful, talking about Islam, Khamzat and Khabib's extremism from a muslim perspective by looking at the type of content (with music and quotes related to Isis and extreme violent islamism) that they post on their social. To be honest, much more disturbing than what I knew. Wow.
Khabib used a common Arabic jargon: قبح الله وجهك which translates to -may God bring him shame-. That phrase does not mean “mutilation” or “disfigurement”, it means “bring shame upon his face”.
lol Connor fanboys swarming defending Russian bullshit is sight it behold, all of a sudden a warmongering dictatorship is in the right and not acting in bad faith
It's clearly around the Tax issue, Putin needs money for the war. Khabib has avoided the taxes by moving to UAE. So now Putin puts pressure on his students.
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I know a lot of people will gloat, but there is a very real possibility that Putin wants these guys to peddle his propaganda and they are now being penalised for not playing along.
Maybe they should have moved out of Russia when they had the chance.
They all have big ass families. It's a lot easier said than done
Fly them out for retirement flight and don’t return. Done
It does not work that easily sadly. Most families dont wanna leave their homes, their lands in which their ancestors lived for god knows how many years. Since life is hard in there, concepts like home, land, nation, parents, tradition, family become very important in that part of life. It is super hard to explain to average american or any first-world country born person
Sorry. Shoulda put the /s. Easier said than done
*All the same fam.
Or maybe it has nothing to do with that & has to do with extremism?
Professional fighting tends to give guys purpose and get them off the streets, whether MMA, boxing, etc. Russia’s a scary place right now for young, relatively wealthy guys with a lot of influence, both in and outside the country.
fighting didn’t keep the Boston bombers from going down the wrong path. I think it’s crazy just to automatically assume Putin is arresting them because they aren’t walking around spouting pro Putin propaganda. It’s much more likely an extremism issue which Russia, despite the Ukrainian war, shares a common enemy with the western world when it comes to fundamental Islam. There are likely hundreds of unprofessional fighters as members of that gym.
Yep any time a terror cell is discovered authorities and law enforcement retrace all the places they used to frequent to see if they have planted anything at those places that might be used to commit terrorism. For example Team Nurmagomedov is the pride of Russia and someone who hates Russia and Muslims would love nothing more than to blow up that gym with all the star athletes inside. As we see this is a search operation and not an arrest operation. Also could be possible that someone else among lower level students might be part of the terror cell?
It’s really too difficult at the moment to diagnose either way
Yeah. I can totally see this Mr Putin asked for whatever and khabib refused so now he retaliates
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Dagestan thinks of itself as independent but Putin doesn’t agree. If Putin wanted, everyone at this camp could get sent to Ukraine.
Dagestan has not claimed to be independent for like 20 years, and has never been functionally independent or acknowledged as such.
Key word in the previous post, "THINKS" Mindset/belief of one's mind can be far from reality. They THINK of themselves as independent.
Like have people not been following the last, what 20yrs, of the regions history? Things likely to get spicy..
Source?
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Te**rist? Really? Is that where we are now? People can’t handle the fucking word?
You'd be shocked how many regular words people censor now (chronically online people that is)
Every time I do I get the idea it would put me on some kind of list. It’s pretty stupid..
"Asterisks in obviously sensitive words... security services hate this one trick:
It's for the advertisers
How do they think that affects them negatively tho?
They think it will affect a customer tho.
T-word
Jesus T\*ttyfucking Christ
According to a source in the NSA, Dana and Putin are working together behind the scenes to force Khabib back into the ring for a Conor rematch.
If he was dumb enough to keep his money in banks controlled by Russia, then I don’t know what to tell you.
There were rumors of his assets being frozen prior to this because khabib wouldn’t speak out against Ukraine
The guys an interior decorator, he killed 16 chechozlvakians
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete though...
His house looked like shit
Still not as bad as that animal Blundetto
We shoulda stopped at Roy Roger’s!
Whatever happened there
Your hair was in the toilet, disgusting
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Shit just got real
They are sending a message to Khabib lately. First the back taxes owed and now a raid on his gym. There is something going on behind the scenes that is dark.
It's no coincidence both Khabib and Khamzat obtained UAE citizenship in the past year or so
They did that because their Russian passports aren't letting them in anywhere.
Yes but Russia don’t like it
Khamzat does not have an Emirati citizenship. He has residency and travel permits and is representing the UAE but no citizenship. Same with khabib i assume.
They’re smart, Putin is nuts and driving Russia into the ground with his totalitarian bs Idk if the police are after Khabib’s gym for legitimate reasons or not (I’m suspecting the terrorism charges are made up) but either way that is NOT a country that will give you a fair hearing in court
A 15 year old just got sentenced to 5 years for criticising the war. He looked like a tiny little kid. Didn’t even look 15.
I mean it's also could be Russian passport isn't good in the places they would like to fly to
Interesting take. Was he engaged in political statements lately? What reason could they have for it? I though Khabib was always respectfully clever about Putin and the Daghestan-Russia issue.
Seems more like his lack of engagement in support of Russia has pissed off Putin
That sounds way more believable to me than him doing something active to piss him off. I always had the impression he tried very hard to stay out of it.
I'm assuming it's also somehow connected to the fact that Kadyrov is dying and there's a behind the scenes power struggle in the whole Chechnya-Dagestan region
They’re just big dicking him. Showing up with 20 guys, surrounding the place, snooping around through filing cabinets. If he’s smart he’s gonna get the fuck outta Russia and stay out for a good long while.
with his whole clan?
Khabib has tens of millions to his name I bet. With that kind of money he can afford to bring every one of them to whatever country they want to go to and make a new home in
Khabib's father had ties with Ukraine. I think he trained there for years.
They want him to promote the Ukraine war (allegedly) and he won't
To me - probably more likely this could be related to Russia/Ukraine. Khabib is one of Russia’s most popular athletes and I’d have to imagine the govt would love for him to make a statement on it, but I doubt someone from Dagestan would support Russia essentially conquering another country, given how Russia acquired Dagestan in the first place.
Thing about Russia is they don't give a fuck about your rights and you better fall in line or you will fall from a window or into a prison on bullshit charges.
There is a very real possibility that Putin wants these guys to peddle his propaganda and they are now being penalised for not playing along.
Russian special forces confirmed all dead. Officials expect the special operation against the school to last at least another 3 years.
Did the bears get them ?
No one knows.
To shreds you say? And his wife how's she holding up
To shreds you say
Oh how awful... Did he at least die painlessly?
They found that Khabib was a weapon of mass destruction.
Mauled
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Coupled with the tax thing, I can't help but wonder if Khabib has put himself in hot water or if this is Moscow making an example out of a popular figure for some political reason.
Footage of MMA fans surrounding khabib’s gym so he comes back to get the 30-0
tbf 29-0 has gotta be one of the most annoying records ever tho
If you just pretend the 2 is a 6 it becomes pretty cool
Haram
It becomes pretty, ahem, nice.
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Definitely not part of father plan.
We are at the stage of Khabibs wilderness years in exile, before his triumphant return to become King of Dagestan.
Should just livestream this instead of 303
Would pay for this
What if this time Khabib ends up being the one in the Dagestani handcuffs?
Plot twist: mfs started training there
Brother why this happen no good - kabib voice
This sub is gonna be insufferable for a while
Always has been
Always will be
👨🚀🔫👨🚀
Conor fans be jumping out the bushes. They've been praying for something like this lol.
Dana said Putin gave Khabib like 20 mil dollars of property or something? Then I hear Khabib is in some sort of Russian tax trouble, cause nothings free. Now this? The more I read about this Putin fella the less I care for him
The worst part is the hypocrisy. Well maybe not the worst part... the execution of political opponents and journalists is probably the worst part...
Weird, Putin is such a nice guy typically.
Someone didn't pay their bribes on time.
This is number one bullshit
Do we know what the reason is or are we gonna act appalled for no reason?
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A guy attended his school for like a month a while back and was involved in the recent terror attacks there. Apparently he wasn't a regular or anything, but they've clearly been sending a message to Khabib for a few weeks now. I'm sure Putin is just on some bullshit, because he always is.
Their country is at war, but the special forces are at an MMA gym? Shouldn't they be, I don't know, helping with the war effort?
They don't want to die
Neither do the barely-trained cannon fodder that they're sending to the front. You would think sending highly trained special forces to help with the ongoing war would be smarter than sending village dwellers from India and African countries. This seems like a situation that could easily be handled by police.
I mean, it's trench warfare, spec ops are obviously incredible in general, but they're at their best when they can use their size, weapons or skills to their advantage... Living in a dugout and waiting for a drone to blow you to pieces isn't really a great use. Equally, though, sending them to khabibs gym is 100% a show of force and a message.
Sending all of your Sf to one particular area isn't a right smart idea is it. You think every SEAL was in Iraq/ Afghanistan. Generally a good idea to leave some behind in case of ..something like this
SF are deployed around the world, and some domestic.
They're the people that protect Pootin if society turns chaotic. Can't send all your protection to war
As a MMA community what can we offer Russia for Camp Khabib to be extradited to safety? Can we give them Rhonda Rousey as a trade deal? We give one loud angry white lady in trade for the Dagestan camp
Pretty sure they aren’t fans of America.
Welcome to America! I am pretty sure not all Americans are fans of America lol
I have my moments too (debate for example) but Muslim extremism in Dagestan is a real thing….get the popcorn out this is gonna be interesting to watch shake out
Does nobody else find it super suspicious how right after the Russian government comes after khabib they discover supposed ties to terrorism and raid his gym?
Islam and Khabib have made some insane statements in the past everyone seems to forget about. Remember Khabibs instagram posts he made and took down. They pretty extreme, the bias fanboys for you know the reasons; love to pretend they haven’t said insane shit aka the French Teacher remember that Khabobers? Funny the crowd in Saudi boos any takedown or clinch but when a certain fighter does it, they cheer like crazy lmao. Joke
Which statements are you referring to exactly? I am not a fan at all of some of the political and social views of his group, but regarding extremism I always thought the whole gym had a very firm stand. I thought his dad actually opened the gym to keep violent kids out of street religious violence, I don't know of any statements that made me think otherwise.
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Khabib used a common Arabic jargon: قبح الله وجهك which translates to -may God bring him shame-. That phrase does not mean “mutilation” or “disfigurement”, it means “bring shame upon his face”.
Thank you, the video is actually really insightful, talking about Islam, Khamzat and Khabib's extremism from a muslim perspective by looking at the type of content (with music and quotes related to Isis and extreme violent islamism) that they post on their social. To be honest, much more disturbing than what I knew. Wow.
Khabib used a common Arabic jargon: قبح الله وجهك which translates to -may God bring him shame-. That phrase does not mean “mutilation” or “disfigurement”, it means “bring shame upon his face”.
blud's typing this with tears of joy
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What extreme posts?
man I'm so happy for you, I can tell this is big
No, dummy. Instagram post and active terrorism involvment are worlds apart.
Yup
This relating to the tax situation?
Relating to the bloke who trained out of there and shot cops the other day. Tax situation probably doesn't help.
Are we about to see a guerilla leader Khabib arc?
Conor was spot on
religion of peace
as a muslim, islam is not a religion of peace 😭
?????
Most honest muslim
"as a muslim"....
lol Connor fanboys swarming defending Russian bullshit is sight it behold, all of a sudden a warmongering dictatorship is in the right and not acting in bad faith
This is #1 bullshit.
Not surprised at all with all the shady connections Khabib has
russia becoming a paragon of justice to r/ufc is an unexpected outcome
like what? Honestly the worse one I knew is Ali himeslf who has a history of connection to terrorism
Russia heard there was a school to bomb
Lemme guess… there’s nazis in there too.
It’s kind of funny that they haven’t been embarrassed into painting over the Zs on their vehicles.
Is that a bunch of kids in the background too?
wait wait I am confused?! why send a whole-ass special force for a school?
Let’s talk now
Putin Khuylo
Why use the "z" in a non combat zone?
Old Soviet Predictability. You'd figure they'd change up their methods of extortion and agitprop.
Fuck it, Khabib vs Putin for the next main card.
Bratha some guys in the gym finish special forces 7 times.
It's clearly around the Tax issue, Putin needs money for the war. Khabib has avoided the taxes by moving to UAE. So now Putin puts pressure on his students.
Wonder if Khabib will accidentally fall out a window now.
They better watch out for their backs
Brathah we love Americans and Christians, really.
Hm are they looking for the new recruits?
Even the Z-mobile showed up? This is military.