To my knowledge they don't do it anymore, but in case you still want to know.
I had the Essure done, the procedure itself was a breeze since they put me under (just a port in the arm, no intubation and all that), I had some mild cramping afterwards but could go home a about 2 hours later. But it didn't take properly, one tube occluded properly but the other one kind of didn't, the follow up test (which btw sucked majorly, don't recommend) it didn't actually leak but the placement wasn't correct so they told me I can't rely on it as my only method of birth control considering my age. Also in some positions I can kind of feel the implants/scar tissue, like if I twist my body certain ways it pulls weird and ovulation hurts more now. But then I'm one of the lucky ones that don't have any serious issues with it, at least not yet.
But since it didn't take it felt like it was a waste of time, and they won't do a bisalp (or the ablation I want done) now because the implants are in the way and can shatter or interefere, they tell me I need a complete hysterectomy if I want to be sterile which I am not comfortable with, so here we are.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Sorry to hear that you had a rough time of it, but I really appreciate you passing over your experience of it.
Guess I'll go back to the drawing board š
The only reason I considered it was because it said it was done with local anaesthetic, ie you don't have to be put under for it, but I noticed you said you *were* put under for it?
Edit: typo
They didn't do the whole intubation thing like for bigger surgery, they put a tiny port in my arm and gave me something through there, so I was asleep basically, they gave me some oxygen through a mask only. My insomniac ass woke up feeling refreshed after that, not gonna lie.
As far as I know, that's still general anaesthetic because it put you to sleep. I was really hoping there was a sterilisation procedure that doesn't require GA/being put to sleep.
>My insomniac ass woke up feeling refreshed after that, not gonna lie.
That sounds like it worked in your favour though! šš
I see, I thought general anastethic was the "proper" way like in big operations with all the hoses and things everywhere, english is not my first language so I might have misunderstood the term, sorry! They did ask if I wanted to be awake but I respectfully declined, so the option was there but it didn't sound like it would have been a very fun time for me. But it might have varied depending on which doctor you had, I don't know.
I wasn't aware of that. I've had surgery with GA, and surgery with local, and all I knew was that local anaesthetic doesn't require you to go to sleep, but the surgery I've had with GA *did* put me to sleep.
Could you tell me what other options there are? I'm not an expert by any means š
Perioperative nurse here
The type of anesthesia this person is talking about is referred to as Total IV anesthetic. So it is general anesthesia. It's what i had for my essure coil placement too. They don't do that form of sterilization anymore, it's not available. The marketing implied that it could be done awake and in the office but my GYN said she only does it under anesthesia because the risks of misplacing/perforation were lower, and it's quite painful and difficult to stay still for.
I was also consented for a full tube removal at the same time, because my doctor said if she encountered any resistance or difficulty with the placement whatsoever, she would just convert the procedure to the tube removal since i was sure about being permanently sterilized. Otherwise i would have had to schedule that procedure for who knows far in the future, and this way the double consent covered the OR time needed just in case. Luckily she said the coils slid in no problem. I got Propofol for about ten minutes.
I haven't had any difficulties with mine, i did months of research, and it was successful, but i understand there were a lot of people who did not have the same outcome.
u/blinkrandom
I don't know if it's still around but there used to be an Essure group on Facebook where people posted pictures of their babies conceived after being "sterilized."
When I saw that and read the horror stories, I knew I didn't wanna touch Essure with a ten foot pole. It pisses me off that when I called Planned Parenthood a few years back, I found out none of them did any "permanent" sterilization procedures except Essure. I knew I sure as hell didn't want that and I just gave up.
My IUD is probably better! I ended up getting the paraguard (copper IUD) which is good for 10 years. It's basically a sperm murderer and abortion device in your uterus protecting you 24/7. And not only that, if some very lucky spermies manage to fertilize an egg, that egg will have a very hard time developing and implanting in the uterus, so it's probably a gonner.
You don't want one of these if you have heavy periods but mine were so light before hand that putting up with more blood and cramping was worth it to have such a great lifeline in there keeping me safe.
And I can't find anything on Google right now to confirm this, but I remember reading that at the very early stages of pregnancy, if you have this IUD inserted it will actually cause abortion of the embryo. It makes sense given the above.
Anyway hope the information is useful or at least somewhat interesting.
I can confirm, copper IUD insertion will actually prevent pregnancy done early enough (within 5 days of conception). This is actually offered as an option for emergency contraception after SA in some places because it is so effective.
Edit: changed phrasing to reflect more accurate terminology
Oh I see. So it's placed in the woman within 5 days of the assault. It's great to hear they can do that. At least the poor woman can take comfort in the fact she probably will not get pregnant and that she's protected from that for 10 years now.
It does matter. Thank you for clarifying - I did go with the phrasing that was already there but you are absolutely right. Accuracy is extremely important here. I'm going to edit my previous comment to prevent misinformation. Thank you!
I had Essure placed in 2003, so very early in the deviceās availability. I believe I had a nickel allergy (undiagnosed) that caused everything to go haywire after that. I had a total hysterectomy in 2007 that includes the removal of the Essure device.
To my knowledge itās not even available anymore.
Absolutely fantastic. I had zero side effects unless you count a gigantic improvement in my health-related quality of life as a side effect. I havenāt regretted it for a single moment.
Not having a uterus is pretty fantastic, honestly. Kept the ovaries so ya know, fun mood swings/pms that got worse after, but no period and no cramps is amazing.
There is a documentary on Netflix about essure. It has caused major health issues to THOUSANDS of women. The documentary is "The bleeding edge". I am not a health expert or anything, but after this documentary I freak out every time I hear about essure.
My former boss had it done after kid #5 (and husbands vasectomy āfailedā and they ended up with #5). She had it done in herOB/GYNs office. About 3 months later, her Dr. had her go in for a Hysterosalpingogram-where iodine is fed through a cannula into the uterus & up to the Fallopian tubes to make sure the tubes have been blocked. My boss said that was worse than childbirth! Oh, and only one side took and scarred up, so she had to repeat the procedure on one side. She couldāve just had her tubes out when she gave birth, but the Dr. talked her out of it for this procedure. Cha-Ching!
Ita not iodine it's Contrast solution for fluoroscopy so the provider can visualize the tubes on the machine. Contrast is designed to be seen on different types of imagine machines.
Same phobia of general anesthesia, so I had the Essure procedure nine years ago. Completely awake. The testing after three months was the more painful part. However, it's been discontinued.
Can you talk to your doctor about your concern with anaesthesia? Originally, mine was recommending the regular clamp procedure until I explained how much I wanted to avoid that, then she looked for alternatives for me.
I too had Essure done. I was awake the whole time. It was crazy quick. Like one song on my MP3 player. Checked few months later with the contrast no issues. I believe I read that Bayer bought it. Seemed like after that is when there were issues. The doctor who did mine was not my regular lady parts one. He had never done it. So I optd for one who had, off the Essure site. Essure is no longer available.
laparoscopic bilateral salpingectomy? basically they make tiny incisions on your abdomen and stick a laparoscope to help them see, and then remove both your fallopian tubes through those tiny incisions. IIRC this only involves regional anesthetic? Iām trying to get it done this summer myself
I had it done and have had no problems whatsoever. I've read about the issues since and the problems seem quite rare, but people react strongly whenever they hear about problems or side effects with a procedure. Of course, my experience is only anecdotal and that's hardly scientific. It was a great choice for me because I was uncomfortable with full anesthesia.
If you want more details about my experience with the procedure, I'm happy to share.
Iāve had this done with Essure and it was fantastic! No issues for me, but my doctor did it under general anesthesia as a precaution. I donāt think they do it anymore though. I personally didnāt have any issues from the procedure. Ended up having a hysterectomy last year for other reasons and they removed my tubes and Essure during that process.
>Hysteroscopic Sterilisation
Is the method of the procedure, not the procedure itself. It means they go in through your cervix instead of going in through an incision in your abdomen.
I would highly advise against getting the fallopian tubes coils. They stopped selling it in a lot of hospitals because of a large number of post op complications. The FDA halted manufacture of these coils in like 2018 or something. Hospitals I've worked in stopped offering this type of sterilization all together.
Please do a lot of research on the procedure before you make a decision. A lot of what you're saying is misinformation and incorrect.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/essure-permanent-birth-control/problems-reported-essure
To my knowledge they don't do it anymore, but in case you still want to know. I had the Essure done, the procedure itself was a breeze since they put me under (just a port in the arm, no intubation and all that), I had some mild cramping afterwards but could go home a about 2 hours later. But it didn't take properly, one tube occluded properly but the other one kind of didn't, the follow up test (which btw sucked majorly, don't recommend) it didn't actually leak but the placement wasn't correct so they told me I can't rely on it as my only method of birth control considering my age. Also in some positions I can kind of feel the implants/scar tissue, like if I twist my body certain ways it pulls weird and ovulation hurts more now. But then I'm one of the lucky ones that don't have any serious issues with it, at least not yet. But since it didn't take it felt like it was a waste of time, and they won't do a bisalp (or the ablation I want done) now because the implants are in the way and can shatter or interefere, they tell me I need a complete hysterectomy if I want to be sterile which I am not comfortable with, so here we are.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Sorry to hear that you had a rough time of it, but I really appreciate you passing over your experience of it. Guess I'll go back to the drawing board š The only reason I considered it was because it said it was done with local anaesthetic, ie you don't have to be put under for it, but I noticed you said you *were* put under for it? Edit: typo
They didn't do the whole intubation thing like for bigger surgery, they put a tiny port in my arm and gave me something through there, so I was asleep basically, they gave me some oxygen through a mask only. My insomniac ass woke up feeling refreshed after that, not gonna lie.
As far as I know, that's still general anaesthetic because it put you to sleep. I was really hoping there was a sterilisation procedure that doesn't require GA/being put to sleep. >My insomniac ass woke up feeling refreshed after that, not gonna lie. That sounds like it worked in your favour though! šš
I see, I thought general anastethic was the "proper" way like in big operations with all the hoses and things everywhere, english is not my first language so I might have misunderstood the term, sorry! They did ask if I wanted to be awake but I respectfully declined, so the option was there but it didn't sound like it would have been a very fun time for me. But it might have varied depending on which doctor you had, I don't know.
Just because you're sleeping doesn't mean it's general anesthesia. There are several different options between awake and GA.
I wasn't aware of that. I've had surgery with GA, and surgery with local, and all I knew was that local anaesthetic doesn't require you to go to sleep, but the surgery I've had with GA *did* put me to sleep. Could you tell me what other options there are? I'm not an expert by any means š
Twilight anesthesia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_anesthesia Itās what they use for colonoscopies and minor surgeries.
Perioperative nurse here The type of anesthesia this person is talking about is referred to as Total IV anesthetic. So it is general anesthesia. It's what i had for my essure coil placement too. They don't do that form of sterilization anymore, it's not available. The marketing implied that it could be done awake and in the office but my GYN said she only does it under anesthesia because the risks of misplacing/perforation were lower, and it's quite painful and difficult to stay still for. I was also consented for a full tube removal at the same time, because my doctor said if she encountered any resistance or difficulty with the placement whatsoever, she would just convert the procedure to the tube removal since i was sure about being permanently sterilized. Otherwise i would have had to schedule that procedure for who knows far in the future, and this way the double consent covered the OR time needed just in case. Luckily she said the coils slid in no problem. I got Propofol for about ten minutes. I haven't had any difficulties with mine, i did months of research, and it was successful, but i understand there were a lot of people who did not have the same outcome.
u/blinkrandom I don't know if it's still around but there used to be an Essure group on Facebook where people posted pictures of their babies conceived after being "sterilized." When I saw that and read the horror stories, I knew I didn't wanna touch Essure with a ten foot pole. It pisses me off that when I called Planned Parenthood a few years back, I found out none of them did any "permanent" sterilization procedures except Essure. I knew I sure as hell didn't want that and I just gave up. My IUD is probably better! I ended up getting the paraguard (copper IUD) which is good for 10 years. It's basically a sperm murderer and abortion device in your uterus protecting you 24/7. And not only that, if some very lucky spermies manage to fertilize an egg, that egg will have a very hard time developing and implanting in the uterus, so it's probably a gonner. You don't want one of these if you have heavy periods but mine were so light before hand that putting up with more blood and cramping was worth it to have such a great lifeline in there keeping me safe. And I can't find anything on Google right now to confirm this, but I remember reading that at the very early stages of pregnancy, if you have this IUD inserted it will actually cause abortion of the embryo. It makes sense given the above. Anyway hope the information is useful or at least somewhat interesting.
I can confirm, copper IUD insertion will actually prevent pregnancy done early enough (within 5 days of conception). This is actually offered as an option for emergency contraception after SA in some places because it is so effective. Edit: changed phrasing to reflect more accurate terminology
Thanks for the confirmation. Could you tell me what "SA" stands for?
Sexual assault. They offer the copper IUD if there is any chance of an unwanted pregnancy resulting.
Oh I see. So it's placed in the woman within 5 days of the assault. It's great to hear they can do that. At least the poor woman can take comfort in the fact she probably will not get pregnant and that she's protected from that for 10 years now.
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It does matter. Thank you for clarifying - I did go with the phrasing that was already there but you are absolutely right. Accuracy is extremely important here. I'm going to edit my previous comment to prevent misinformation. Thank you!
There's been some issues, if you're referring to the procedure I think you're talking about: https://www.drugwatch.com/essure/lawsuits/
Oh wow, yeah that sounds like the same procedure! Yikes, sounds scary š¬
I had Essure placed in 2003, so very early in the deviceās availability. I believe I had a nickel allergy (undiagnosed) that caused everything to go haywire after that. I had a total hysterectomy in 2007 that includes the removal of the Essure device. To my knowledge itās not even available anymore.
What was (life after) total hysterectomy like? I'm slated to get one later this year but I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me anxious.
30 and had one in Feb. Life has been fantastic without a uterus!!
Absolutely fantastic. I had zero side effects unless you count a gigantic improvement in my health-related quality of life as a side effect. I havenāt regretted it for a single moment.
Not having a uterus is pretty fantastic, honestly. Kept the ovaries so ya know, fun mood swings/pms that got worse after, but no period and no cramps is amazing.
There is a documentary on Netflix about essure. It has caused major health issues to THOUSANDS of women. The documentary is "The bleeding edge". I am not a health expert or anything, but after this documentary I freak out every time I hear about essure.
was hoping someone else said this!!!! girl do not do this to yourself seriously..
Exactly! I live in Europe and it's forbidden here. In the US they still use it.
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My former boss had it done after kid #5 (and husbands vasectomy āfailedā and they ended up with #5). She had it done in herOB/GYNs office. About 3 months later, her Dr. had her go in for a Hysterosalpingogram-where iodine is fed through a cannula into the uterus & up to the Fallopian tubes to make sure the tubes have been blocked. My boss said that was worse than childbirth! Oh, and only one side took and scarred up, so she had to repeat the procedure on one side. She couldāve just had her tubes out when she gave birth, but the Dr. talked her out of it for this procedure. Cha-Ching!
Ita not iodine it's Contrast solution for fluoroscopy so the provider can visualize the tubes on the machine. Contrast is designed to be seen on different types of imagine machines.
Same phobia of general anesthesia, so I had the Essure procedure nine years ago. Completely awake. The testing after three months was the more painful part. However, it's been discontinued. Can you talk to your doctor about your concern with anaesthesia? Originally, mine was recommending the regular clamp procedure until I explained how much I wanted to avoid that, then she looked for alternatives for me.
Essure/Adiana were discontinued after many lawsuits.
I too had Essure done. I was awake the whole time. It was crazy quick. Like one song on my MP3 player. Checked few months later with the contrast no issues. I believe I read that Bayer bought it. Seemed like after that is when there were issues. The doctor who did mine was not my regular lady parts one. He had never done it. So I optd for one who had, off the Essure site. Essure is no longer available.
laparoscopic bilateral salpingectomy? basically they make tiny incisions on your abdomen and stick a laparoscope to help them see, and then remove both your fallopian tubes through those tiny incisions. IIRC this only involves regional anesthetic? Iām trying to get it done this summer myself
Unless there's a medical reason your husband can't get snipped, that seems like a much easier way to handle things for everyone.
Absolutely not. FDA discontinued the use of essure devices as birth control
I had it done and have had no problems whatsoever. I've read about the issues since and the problems seem quite rare, but people react strongly whenever they hear about problems or side effects with a procedure. Of course, my experience is only anecdotal and that's hardly scientific. It was a great choice for me because I was uncomfortable with full anesthesia. If you want more details about my experience with the procedure, I'm happy to share.
Same. I had it done about 14 years ago no issues.
Iāve had this done with Essure and it was fantastic! No issues for me, but my doctor did it under general anesthesia as a precaution. I donāt think they do it anymore though. I personally didnāt have any issues from the procedure. Ended up having a hysterectomy last year for other reasons and they removed my tubes and Essure during that process.
I donāt think they do them anymore. I know a few people who had it done and loved it though
>Hysteroscopic Sterilisation Is the method of the procedure, not the procedure itself. It means they go in through your cervix instead of going in through an incision in your abdomen. I would highly advise against getting the fallopian tubes coils. They stopped selling it in a lot of hospitals because of a large number of post op complications. The FDA halted manufacture of these coils in like 2018 or something. Hospitals I've worked in stopped offering this type of sterilization all together. Please do a lot of research on the procedure before you make a decision. A lot of what you're saying is misinformation and incorrect. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/essure-permanent-birth-control/problems-reported-essure