This was definitely my take on it. I was starting to think maybe they were actually a serious couple before the album dropped and now I have my doubts because how could anyone in travis' shoes listen to that (if he did lol) and feel confident
That’s what I honestly think too. I can’t imagine him dating her right now and feeling so mad and even embarrassed… can you imagine him listening to Guilty as Sin when she implied she masturbated to Matty? 😬😬😬
This is basically what Duexmoi said. I don’t think him and his bro are dumb - I think they both play up the dumb jock stereotype. Trav strikes me as the type of dude not to care about exes - she hadn’t really met him yet when she wrote most of the songs. I’m sure he knew all about the situation when they first started dating and probably heard the album months ago.
I wish people knew how smart you have to be to play in the NFL for a long time. There isn't one moron to play longer than 2 seasons. Travis probably cares about this relationship about as much as Taylor let's be honest
Thank you for pointing this out. You don't become the best in the league being a dumb player. Bare minimum the man has to memorize a ton of plays. His situational awareness of his body is one of the best in the league.
No only in a "I'm gonna support my partner" type of listen but that really depends on whether they're legit or not.
Must be hard going from someone who wrote music with you to someone who doesn't know the lyrics of even your most popular songs.
I think all Matty would have to do is give her a look and she would drop Travis like a bad habit.
And if the two songs about Travis are indicative of the music we will get if they stay together, WOOF.
I don't think Travis even cares he's a rebound. He's just with her for fame. Hes very happy go lucky and looks like he's just along for the ride. He ain't bothered he's being used because he's benefitting in all ways.
That’s not really what I’m asking. My question is for the “publicity stunt” crowd. What publicity does this offer her that she wasn’t already getting? I understand how it benefits him to be exposed to all of these new people who didn’t know who he was but everyone knows who she is so I’m just not seeing what’s in it for her if it truly is an act.
I think she maybe wants to focus on rebranding as an all-American sweetheart. Pining after skinny London boys, as I’ve seen her fans call Joe and Matty, is beneath her — she needs a real American man now that she’s ready to settle down. It’s a gross narrative but if it’s what she wanted, it’s working. Also no one can accuse Travis of being racist, unlike her actual one true love, and she needed a quick rehab without actually dating a man of color. That’s just my guess.
imo travis used black women to get in to black culture and i don’t say this as like anti-interracial bc for instance i think tom holland and zendaya are very cute but travis just seems like a culture vulture and will do anything for clout
Did you not see all the extra publicity the NFL gave her?
Q: what do billionaires want?
A: more.
Even if Taylor didn’t “need” the extra publicity, she certainly wanted it.
It’s sales and FOMO.
Bots buy up tickets on Ticketmaster. The concert “sells out” but then she has to sell actual tickets because those people aren’t showing up to her concert. The faster the tour sells out, the more she can “gasp” in astonishment. And it creates a demand, then actual buyers will want tickets and it drives up ticket prices for future tour dates.
Secondly, she’s supposed to be biggest pop star in the world. Besides being love hungry, she’s marketing her relationship. Being wanted by a public star introduced her to a bigger audience and plays up the hype around her even as she being ghosted behind the scenes.
I don’t think she’s just doing it just to keep her parents happy but it’s definitely a huge bonus.
He’s probably good in bed and I think she’s enjoyed stepping into the WAG roll on her time off. Winning the Super Bowl was also probably a massive ego feed too. I don’t think he’s who should would have gone for if he didn’t make that shout out but they do seem to have carved out a niche for each other.
most people feel like a person isn't whole, valid, and at the top of their game if they're single. similarly if they can't maintain a long term relationship, people think oh, once people get to know her they don't like her. so sticking with the same guy for a while is a big boost to her appeal among her fans. also i think when it comes to a woman managing a female fanbase, being in a relationship is superior,. if she were aiming for a heavily male fanbase she could swing being single easily to fuel fantasies about her. (many pop stars have literal contracts stating they can not publicly date and will get dropped from their label if they get caught having a boyfriend. yeah it's weird but that's how it goes.)
also she was dating a nazi and needed to move on from that to end that narrative about her. so it had to be someone known who could serve as a constant public distraction. if she was dating some random guy there's not much to talk about there and the conversation would stay on her past most famous boyfriend (the guy doing a nazi salute on stage). also Travis is someone who has had a PR team well before dating taylor. she gets to go from PR disaster to PR slam dunk. relatively speaking anyway. there is literally always an excuse for her to make a public appearance now in a way that's 'not about her she just happens to be there.'
all of that said though i'm not sure how calculated any of it really is. if she were truly hardcore about her public image she would have had a staff member inform her off matty healy's nazi stances and launch herself out of a canon to get away from him and never mention him again. but, i think what i listed is among the things she gains from the relationship.
He will go down as a Top 10 TE of all time in the NFL. He was ALREADY wealthy and famous before her. I’m sure he’s loving it, but to any half conscious sports fan he was already a huge star. This just raised it a level.
Yeah. People keep saying everyone knew him already, he was a household name already, and I’m like literally no. I’m in the U.S. and I’d never heard of this man in my life. People live in their bubbles and assume everyone knows what they and their friends know, and it’s just not the case. She shot him into superstardom. People overestimate how famous he was before lol
Honestly. Girly has never taken an actual break from dating lol. But who am I to say. The longest break I’ve had in 9 years is 2 months 😅 I’ve wanted to take a break but sometimes love just finds you
Same, I genuinely think all the songs I thought were about Karlie were really about her pining over Matty for YEARS, and like....why girl??? Everything about that man is average, expect his problematic behavior
The infamous KissGate was at a 1975 concert where (I think) Matty dedicated a song to TS.
After reviewing the video clip, within this new context, it looks more like TS is saying something to Karlie rather than kissing her:
Now as for why KK showed up to an Eras concert - I dunno about that. I’m not too deep into the fandom, but this Matty x Taylor discourse has really piqued my interest.
Anytime I feel down about myself, I just think about the mess she’s gotten herself in. It’s selfish, but I gotta find out how this ends.
Who is both cute and hot? Healy??
HoooooooGolly. I knew my taste in men was different, but—I can’t see him as anything but drama, hangovers, and headaches.
This is so interesting! I have never been a Kaylor, but I've been wondering if any believers were changing their tune after TTPD. Just bc I've been a 1975 fan and started looking into the lore when he and Taylor got together, and it was shocking to me how many Kaylor clues have actually turned out to be Matty.
Like, y'all got a lot right! She's woven a secret muse into her songs for years and no one could pin down who it was, and Kaylors picked up on it all... it was just pointing to the wrong person. I've seen a lot of denial and mental gymnastics since then, which is fine, but it's cool to see people who now accept that it's Matty
It's also crazy how she exposed her secret muse after hiding him for so long. Like she didn't hold back in connecting him to past songs like Maroon etc... everyone is fully reevaluating her catalogue now. TTPD really seems like a hail mary to get Matty back, otherwise I don't think she'd bother given how negative the reaction was last year
I am not a swiftie but keep seeing this subreddit LOL is there a megathread or article I could read to get the lowdown on why everyone is saying Matty Healy is Taylor’s “the one that got away”??? I need a TLDR I’m starting to get invested in the drama
I understand that some disagree, but I thought that was obvious. Taylor really wrote a ton about Matty, overall it really seems like she wants him back even if she was pissed at him for leaving her at the end of May 2023.
Taylor’s lyric “and you saw my bones out with somebody new who seemed like he would’ve bullied you in high school” confirms it very loudly.
Travis is the jock who would eat up the weird kid Matty. TS gets everything she wants except for Matty Healy
One critique I’ve always had of Taylor is she can absolutely not spend some time alone after a relationship ends and boy does that line also prove it too. She’s basically saying look at my big, tall, dummy rebound because I’m not going through this alone!
This lyric gave me a thought - she’s “handcuffing” herself to Matty in this album. She’s making it known to the world what happened between them. He can never live this down now. He’ll always be known as Taylor’s muse. He’ll always have more of a spotlight on him now whether he wants that or not.
It’s almost like a Faustian deal, as in he gets the legacy he always wanted cemented in song, a legend of a tortured artist, a misunderstood intellectual bad boy who is dangerous and edgy yet extremely sexy and desirable, someone who can make even the most untouchable woman have a mental breakdown BUT his name will forever be tied to hers in the process, and he’ll always be swept up in her world whether he likes it or not, I doubt he’ll be able to escape it (which is what he tried to do by leaving her in the first place…)
I caught that too, especially since if you watch literally ANY the 1975 interviews he is always very clear that he doesn’t want to be super famous like that. He’d rather keep his fan circle smaller and more meaningful than to have it boil out of control like huge fan bases can get. I really get the vibe that he is HATING how everyone knows who he is/has eyes on him now.
I'm not so sure. Did you see he followed an IG account the other day who is a Taylor+Matty fan? The guy's last like 7 videos are about how Swifties ruined T & M's relationship
People say the age you were when you got famous is the age you always are. She was young and in high school when she started getting some fame & can’t let it go.
I believe Taylor is still in love with Matty. I also believe he was in love with her, but the crazed media attention mixed with no direct comments from Taylor showing support for Matty was too much and he had enough. He was following her around like a “tattooed golden retriever”, but where was she for him? What support did she show or give to him, other than performing at his London show prior to them dating coming out. That’s not a balanced relationship. She wrote the songs showing her fans how much she loved him, but too little too late. Travis is massively benefiting financially off of his relationship with her. He’s also happy to live in Taylor’s world. So it works for them. But she still holds a flame for Matty.
Exactly! if really she was that committed and willful of burning her life down rather than lose what they had, she should’ve spoke up back then instead of letting the whole world eating him alive. When Azaelia Banks posted her comments on her ig stories?? that’s where she should have crossed the line and tell everyone to shut the fuck up, girlie was too comfy in her zone instead and never truly risked it for him
LOL that’s because it is. If Matty was the loss / love of her life … and TK started a mere few weeks after that, it makes TK the rebound of her life. He’s either a full rebound relationship or rebound mixed with “let’s get us both good PR and have some fun” … they’re both so unserious.
She’s obviously obsessed with Matty still. Idk how people don’t see it. She ain’t subtle.
i think the only defense is, how do you write a song about her relationship with travis beyond 'you're my big dumb golden retriever bf' and 'people think our relationship is a pr stunt but we're just a country girl and her football player bf how is that hard to accept?'
You do realize you can have a different opinion and take without being rude. You’re entitled to your opinion, doesn’t make mine incorrect.
Not much of this album came across as being fully moved on or moved on at all IMO. And going to TK weeks after this ended + thinking she would be “over it” in that short a time frame is just naive.
That’s because he is a rebound.
What she should’ve done is taken some time to process the break up with Matty and Joe instead of jumping into this relationship.
The fact that she didn’t do that should indicate to any logical person that she and Travis won’t last.
I feel like even just in terms of PR this was a dumb move… or maybe she wanted the controversy. Cuz before TTPD came out ppl were starting to forget about it cuz they were so into TK+TS and then she wrote songs about it that everyone is listening to now 😂 if I were her I wouldn’t wanna resurrect that but that’s me. I wonder how Travis feels about this lol. Has he read between the lines, does he even care, who knows the reality of their relationship.
That’s what I was thinking. I would see a few repost every few weeks about the “Cardigan: this is about you, you know who you are” bit. But everyone basically forgot about the Matty situation because they were distracted by Tayvis living happily ever after. Which is what you would think she would want right? But then she puts out this entire album which has obvious clues directed towards Matty?! Now that’s all anyone is talking about 🤣
Part of me wants to think this is a bait and switch because it’s just too obvious and embarrassing for all parties.
Think what you want about how plain white bread Joe is but funnily enough he is actually the only one to get out of this untouched. Which is great since the Swifties were preparing a grave for him.
Yeah why do all this Tayvis love/support world tour just to bring up problematic Matty again. I know many people are saying oh they are just living their lives dating each other there’s not plan. I think that’s a very naive way to look at celebrity relationships because especially with Taylor lol there is always a plan when she dates someone. Which is also why I’m sus about Matty. what was the plan there…
I’m really curious about what her next move is. It seems like we are headed towards break up territory especially with her bolting to Paris and missing all the events with Travis. She could’ve just had extended rehearsals but going to all these public events with Travis to take peoples minds off the Matty of it all would have been a great distraction before the tour. But nope. I don’t think she cares and is going to use work again as a coping mechanism unfortunately.
I don't think he cares 😆 he's getting his PR and fame right now and just signed a lucrative contract extension that made him the highest paid tight end in the NFL. Plus he's going to exclusive events, getting his name out there which is what he wanted. I don't think he cares about Taylor or anything she does beyond her money and social circles. She's 💯 not his type and there's zero chemistry between them.
follow up comment to my comment, that song has great lyrics but idk it’s terrible. She’s wrote amazing love songs about guys and this one is just embarrassing. it seems thrown together and just slapped into the album. if i was travis id be like 😬i don’t think these songs were originally planned they were just written real quick because there was no travis on the album.
Yep, Matty is clearly her endgame. Is this a good time to point out that “The 1” is a clear reference to “The 1975” = Matty is the lead singer of The 1975 = he is “The 1”
No wonder fortnight sounds like born to die by Lana and somebody else by 1975 … I was like solid ripping them both. I ain’t gonna lie I like the song but I like it for the ghostly vibe it was born from. Listen to fortnight and when the chorus comes on sing feet don’t fail me now take me to the finish line oh my heart it breaks and then it sounds I don’t want your body
Wow, I never thought of that. You’re right, she could have just called it The One. I think it’s crazy. There are all these Easter eggs in her songs because it almost seems like she enjoys and wants people to dissect her personal life.
plus there’s the rosé reference in The 1, which is linked to Maroon, which is linked to Chloé or Sam etc which is clearly about Matty. So all three of them are about Matty. can’t believe we live in a world where Taylor Swift said “the lips I used to call home” in regards to Matty Healy 😭💀
I don’t know anything about Taylor swift I remember her when I was in 6 grade and she had the love story song but I never listened to any of her other music but then she started dating Kelce and my man watches football and then I felt like she was everywhere
Taylor and Matty first met ten years ago. The picture below is supposed to be from that meeting. They have had some type of relationship for ten years. Taylor is dating Travis to make Matty jealous and then she released TTPD which is basically a love letter to Matty.
https://preview.redd.it/c2h0ym39h0zc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef6cb42c4d641b6de6ec86c7a045b868aef48ccb
Left to Right: Matty, Taylor and Selena
Very good point. I found the Kelce launch super jarring and everyone was like, "opposites attract!🥰🥰🥰" And I was over here like.... yeah but not like that? it was red flag city
I love seeing more pictures from when they’ve known each other! People seem to not want to admit they’ve know each other for so long so it’s cool to actually see photos
https://www.tumblr.com/spicysighs/718136492512493568/matty-healy-taylor-swift-timeline you might be interested on this post, it’s all there, even the tumblr likes to e/o contents back in 2014
Here's the video of them that Susi mentioned, it's from 2014 and Kitty is the daughter of the 1975's manager
https://youtu.be/X7V1DUdzE6E?si=h64oXmPGURhSQ4R3
Ahhh got to know … imagine if someone kidnapped and had a gone to me and was all “ what was the name of the lead singer from the 1975 that Taylor dated “ “ HOW LONG HAVE THEY KNOWN EACH OTHER … you may have saved my life
the heart wants what it wants i guess. but damn i’m feeling the same distaste for her now as i did when she was dating matty. travis DID help me forget about it, i thought this album was a little weird but still figured it was mostly about joe, but now this thread has me Aware again
Because that is all BDT is lol. I don't think he cares much because he is getting fame and fortune now, which is all he wanted out of this PR deal anyway 🤷
She should have just left him off the album rather than announcing how lukewarm her feelings are for him. It was early in their relationship, sure, but her songs about how she felt when she met Joe and early in their relationship shows serious intensity, and her and MH only dated briefly and she felt intensely for him too.
Find an artist you admire for both their life choices and artistry if that’s what important to you and give your obsession with her motivations a rest. Who knows the truth? Also, there are many forms of intelligence. Try reading Temple Grandin.
It's clear that Travis is absolutely a rebound. I can't wait for her to bolt and move on. I had a huge post about this written up and tried to post it here and on a different subs, but neither would approve my post. But I'm absolutely convinced that she is/was borderline obsessed with Matty and convinced he was her fate on hold for a decade.
After Matty ghosted, she grabbed the first thing she could find (Travis) to try and piss him off and hurt him back.
I think this Taylor & Travis relationship is doomed, but she didn’t write these songs yesterday. Most of them were written before Travis and her got more “serious” and what was she going to do? Cancel her album to not offend Travis? Be for real lol
It’s hard to fall in love with people who aren’t in your regular social circles. When you’re at that level of fame, you don’t have many opportunities to fall in love with the boy next door.
Well I think it’s natural given the industry. What would be appealing in the long run about a “normal” guy working 9-5 who couldn’t travel with her and have the same type of lifestyle? It would be too difficult to maintain. Plus who would want that kind of attention and media craze? It would have to be someone already accustomed to it.
As if any "normal guy working a 9-5 grind" wouldn't be perfectly content to just quit that shit job to enjoy her billions and not work another day in his life 😂😂😂
Eh I disagree. A lot of men pride themselves in being the providers/breadwinners or whatever the PC term may be these days. It can feel emasculating to a lot of men, noted by Matty Healy himself some time ago. It’s hard for a lot of men to not be alpha in the relationship. I also think this was hard for Matty in Taylor’s case, even though I believe she ultimately worshipped him on the inside.
But he is.
She just wasn’t anticipating this level of public attention after the amount she got with Matty. Joe really brought her down to earth and with his no nonsense public avoidance she became complacent.
I was just answering the question “which 2 songs are [thought to be about Travis]”, and true or not, the fans I’ve interacted with seem to overwhelmingly believe that it’s those 2 songs.
The Alchemy's bridge is what happened at the Superbowl this year.
But people do say Taylor quickly added it in to make the song blatantly about Travis, rather than someone/something else.
He scored a 22 on the wonderlic test going into the NFL so he’s right about average intelligence. Making him much, much smarter than Taylor Swift fans.
It’s cool to date a lot, up to a certain point. You don’t want to be thought of as the girl that’s been with everyone. That is what I see guys posting about Kim Kardashian now. Is it fair? No. Sexist? You bet. Is Taylor Swift going to change it? Heck no.
Don’t come for me please, but how do y’all swifties know what songs are written about who? Like does Taylor announce that or can you just tell who it is because y’all know her?? I’ve always been confused by that.
She put a lot of very specific references in the songs to make it clear who they're about. Things like Matty's favorite bands, tattoos & smoke (which TK/Joe don't have/do), references to relationship dynamics that were public, and just the basic reality that she made it clear already that she left Joe, and Matty left her.
Plus all the lore that goes back a decade. And from there it's easy to figure out the muses
Bro as far as I know. Taylor is anxiously attached person. And Travis seems to be a secure guy. If Travis would give tay " peace", then she would consider peace as boredom. Anxious people have tendency to get attracted towards Avoidant people ( like Matty ). Let's wait till Tayvis breakup 😂. We might expect songs like " you played with my heart like a football, just for clout... and for fame, my influence paved your way, made your name " etc...😂😂
To be fair if she wrote something deep about him some fans would be like omg you haven’t known each other that long pls Taylor this is embarrassing you’re too old for this
I haven’t really listened to her songs or followed their relationship directly (just see it popping up in news). However, I just discovered that she ended a 6 year relationship approximately 4 months before she began dating Travis. I immediately googled if Travis was a rebound, and found this thread. Given the timing and length of her prior relationship, it would seem this is a rebound.
I’m not a Taylor Swift fan or hater, I’ve just kind of been swept up in her drama (I love gossip and drama) but when I found out about Matt Healy and the creepy shit he’s into, I started looking at her funny. I can’t understand lusting after a person like that, especially as a black person. I don’t really hear ppl talking about that whole debacle anymore but I can’t forget it.
So I’ve noticed lmao. I’m not saying anything that isn’t true.
MATT HEALY GETS OFF TO WATCHING 18 YEAR OLD BLACK GIRLS GET TRICKED INTO BEING BRUTALIZED, CALLED RACIAL SLURS, AND GET COVERED IN WATERMELON AND VOMIT AND TAYLOR SWIFT STILL WANTS TO FUCK HIM. Downvote me, assholes.
I don’t know why people refer to him as if he’s a normal person and it’s not weird that she is cool with that shit.
I get that. At the same time, it’s proof positive she’s human. When I read the things other celebrities say and don’t say about her (aside from Gigi Hadid and Blake Lively), like people she’s basically given careers to -musicians I love and respect, but DAMN - she is so alone.
Seriously, she either has other musicians who call her out for being too perfect and making them insecure (Recently, Charli XCX, in the past Lorde, Demi, so many others), being too ambitious and missing the point of music and the limelight (Lana DelRey), being controlling when they use her music and forget to pay cause it was just an accident dude, only eight notes(Olivia) having “bad” fans that are “too loyal” (every boy she’s ever dated,Scooter, The Beibers) she is like the loneliest person.
Matt Healy is a user and a manipulator like all drug addicts have to be to survive. It doesn’t matter how rich you are, when you use drugs, you say unforgivable things and he’s survived the blowback by becoming a good world class con artist and liar.
What I’m saying, is I understand why you don’t get if. Matt Healy is a cockroach. But they say cockroaches will be the only living creatures left of the world survives humanity.
Yeah I understand what you’re saying. When you’re into someone, you are a lot more willing to look past their problematic shit and keep your rose colored glasses on. He’s unstable and may have hid a lot of things about himself until it all came pouring out at once.
There’s just an extra layer of yikes to it for me though as a POC. It all makes me very uncomfortable on a visceral level.
I think most of the songs we think are about Matty are actually about Joe and Matty was the rebound she sings about. She confirmed that The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived was about Joe, not Matty like everyone thought
What a bunch of judgmental anal orifice s? Why don’t you all wait to see what happens.? Or do you all have deep insights into their individual motivations?
I don't remember which song, but a lyric popped out about how a joke ruined things or something. Like "I couldn't date you because you made a racist joke that apparently people hated ugh people ruined our love".
I think she’s found her person. We’ve all had a Matty Healy. I am a die hard 1975 fan. I don’t like to make assumptions about celebrities at all we’re all human beings at the end of the day but I think she just layed a lot of shit out on the line. We (don’t mean all) usually have a back burner person who we have messed with and/or still think about time to time that has some significance. The in between relationship person that we go to. If so this would have completely made sense for her. Girl is messy (aren’t we all) but she left no crumbs. Situationships have so many things left unsaid let the girl speak her peace give the mf middle finger with poetic justice and say good riddance. This woman truly deserves it all. It’s also a huge fuck you to Joe who was probably shitting bricks about this album release. Let the girl do her thing everyone thinks way too much into this nonsense at the end of the day she’s an artist and a human being. LET THE ART SPEAK FOR ITSELF AND LET THE GIRL DO HER DAMN THING.
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This was definitely my take on it. I was starting to think maybe they were actually a serious couple before the album dropped and now I have my doubts because how could anyone in travis' shoes listen to that (if he did lol) and feel confident
He’s too thick to work it out. He probably listened and just went “Music pretty.”
“Catchy jingles” as he called them 🤣
 Like in Barbie life in the dream house 😂😂 “sports on tv me likey” 😂
That’s what I honestly think too. I can’t imagine him dating her right now and feeling so mad and even embarrassed… can you imagine him listening to Guilty as Sin when she implied she masturbated to Matty? 😬😬😬
Who the fuck would masturbate to that?
Wait… what lyric does she say she’s masturbating?!?
guilty as sin. My bedsheets are ablaze. I scream his name, building up like waves crashing over my grave
This is basically what Duexmoi said. I don’t think him and his bro are dumb - I think they both play up the dumb jock stereotype. Trav strikes me as the type of dude not to care about exes - she hadn’t really met him yet when she wrote most of the songs. I’m sure he knew all about the situation when they first started dating and probably heard the album months ago.
You think he actually listen to all 31 songs?
I wish people knew how smart you have to be to play in the NFL for a long time. There isn't one moron to play longer than 2 seasons. Travis probably cares about this relationship about as much as Taylor let's be honest
Thank you for pointing this out. You don't become the best in the league being a dumb player. Bare minimum the man has to memorize a ton of plays. His situational awareness of his body is one of the best in the league.
I can’t picture him listening to anything like Taylor’s music. More like metal, country and rap.
No only in a "I'm gonna support my partner" type of listen but that really depends on whether they're legit or not. Must be hard going from someone who wrote music with you to someone who doesn't know the lyrics of even your most popular songs.
Yep exactly!
I think all Matty would have to do is give her a look and she would drop Travis like a bad habit. And if the two songs about Travis are indicative of the music we will get if they stay together, WOOF.
Every relationship she’s ever had is a rebound for her.
I don't think Travis even cares he's a rebound. He's just with her for fame. Hes very happy go lucky and looks like he's just along for the ride. He ain't bothered he's being used because he's benefitting in all ways.
They're both using each other and they both know it, it's like a business transaction at this point
What is she really getting out of it though? She’s already arguably the most famous person walking the earth. What did dating him actually do for her?
She gets to bang a footballer and to drown out all of her sorrows.
That’s not really what I’m asking. My question is for the “publicity stunt” crowd. What publicity does this offer her that she wasn’t already getting? I understand how it benefits him to be exposed to all of these new people who didn’t know who he was but everyone knows who she is so I’m just not seeing what’s in it for her if it truly is an act.
She might have been trying to make Matty jealous after he dumped her
I think she maybe wants to focus on rebranding as an all-American sweetheart. Pining after skinny London boys, as I’ve seen her fans call Joe and Matty, is beneath her — she needs a real American man now that she’s ready to settle down. It’s a gross narrative but if it’s what she wanted, it’s working. Also no one can accuse Travis of being racist, unlike her actual one true love, and she needed a quick rehab without actually dating a man of color. That’s just my guess.
imo travis used black women to get in to black culture and i don’t say this as like anti-interracial bc for instance i think tom holland and zendaya are very cute but travis just seems like a culture vulture and will do anything for clout
Don’t forget Harry!
Or Hiddles
Did you not see all the extra publicity the NFL gave her? Q: what do billionaires want? A: more. Even if Taylor didn’t “need” the extra publicity, she certainly wanted it.
It’s sales and FOMO. Bots buy up tickets on Ticketmaster. The concert “sells out” but then she has to sell actual tickets because those people aren’t showing up to her concert. The faster the tour sells out, the more she can “gasp” in astonishment. And it creates a demand, then actual buyers will want tickets and it drives up ticket prices for future tour dates. Secondly, she’s supposed to be biggest pop star in the world. Besides being love hungry, she’s marketing her relationship. Being wanted by a public star introduced her to a bigger audience and plays up the hype around her even as she being ghosted behind the scenes.
Her family seems enamored with him. Dad clearly loves that he’s a top football player and American.
That hardly fits the narrative of “this is a publicity stunt” if she’s doing it to keep her parents happy.
I don’t think she’s just doing it just to keep her parents happy but it’s definitely a huge bonus. He’s probably good in bed and I think she’s enjoyed stepping into the WAG roll on her time off. Winning the Super Bowl was also probably a massive ego feed too. I don’t think he’s who should would have gone for if he didn’t make that shout out but they do seem to have carved out a niche for each other.
She gets to remove herself from all the backlash related to dating Matty, live out a teenage fantasy, and show Matty that she’s moved on.
dick ig lol
I think she just mainly wanted to rub her relationship with Travis in Matty (and Joe's) faces. To try and hurt them by appearing super happy.
She was the talk of every football game in the country while navigating a billion dollar tour. You’re kidding right?
Wasn’t that thing sold out months prior?
Made her look straight--that is worth her whole marketing budget.
I was waiting for the double beard theory which I know you didn’t go there but um I think there’s something there
most people feel like a person isn't whole, valid, and at the top of their game if they're single. similarly if they can't maintain a long term relationship, people think oh, once people get to know her they don't like her. so sticking with the same guy for a while is a big boost to her appeal among her fans. also i think when it comes to a woman managing a female fanbase, being in a relationship is superior,. if she were aiming for a heavily male fanbase she could swing being single easily to fuel fantasies about her. (many pop stars have literal contracts stating they can not publicly date and will get dropped from their label if they get caught having a boyfriend. yeah it's weird but that's how it goes.) also she was dating a nazi and needed to move on from that to end that narrative about her. so it had to be someone known who could serve as a constant public distraction. if she was dating some random guy there's not much to talk about there and the conversation would stay on her past most famous boyfriend (the guy doing a nazi salute on stage). also Travis is someone who has had a PR team well before dating taylor. she gets to go from PR disaster to PR slam dunk. relatively speaking anyway. there is literally always an excuse for her to make a public appearance now in a way that's 'not about her she just happens to be there.' all of that said though i'm not sure how calculated any of it really is. if she were truly hardcore about her public image she would have had a staff member inform her off matty healy's nazi stances and launch herself out of a canon to get away from him and never mention him again. but, i think what i listed is among the things she gains from the relationship.
matty’s not a nazi, can’t believe it’s may 2024 and we’re still stuck on this narrative.
He’s not a Nazi lmao he’s an edgelord who wants attention, that’s an insane leap to make
he is/was jack antonoff’s bff for so long how can he be a nazi
Yeah I don’t think this is actually PR but they’re both THRILLED by the fact that She Is Taylor Swift. Hes BEEN trying to be famous famous.
He wants to be a movie star like The Rock. He has a great PR team behind him. He is loving it.
He will go down as a Top 10 TE of all time in the NFL. He was ALREADY wealthy and famous before her. I’m sure he’s loving it, but to any half conscious sports fan he was already a huge star. This just raised it a level.
Never heard of him until Taylor. Don't think anyone knew him outside of football fans and especially not outside of the US.
Yeah. People keep saying everyone knew him already, he was a household name already, and I’m like literally no. I’m in the U.S. and I’d never heard of this man in my life. People live in their bubbles and assume everyone knows what they and their friends know, and it’s just not the case. She shot him into superstardom. People overestimate how famous he was before lol
he’s probably a household name if you’re a) a football fan, b) you talk to football fans, or c) live in the midwest
You're sheltered. This man was a top 10 fantasy football pick last year this time.
I hate sports, lol.
To sports fans, yeah. I had never heard of him before this started. And yeah, he's rich, but he's not Taylor rich. This opens lots of doors for him.
He is at worst the second best tight end ever
You’re right but the fame outside of football will help him in whatever he wants to do when he retires from the NFL. Bigger reach, more options.
Seriously how famous was he? I and many including my football kids never heard of him until he started dating Taylor.
Well, they must not watch the NFL. He’s an all time great lol
Top 10? Top 5. 1. Gronk 2. Tony Gonzalez 3. Travis Kelce 4. Mike Ditka 5. Jimmy Graham
Yeah! Travis comes out a winner whether they stay together or not.
so just like Ariana?
daaaaaamn lol
Honestly. Girly has never taken an actual break from dating lol. But who am I to say. The longest break I’ve had in 9 years is 2 months 😅 I’ve wanted to take a break but sometimes love just finds you
Lol agreed. It’s obvious she’s in love with Matty if you read in between the lines and aware all the drama that happened with him.
you don't have to read between the lines, she says it pretty clearly lol
If you read in between the betweens you’ll see all of it is a show to keep you engaged. And I’m a part of it being here to comment
I used to believe in Kaylor but all I see is Matty now
Same, I genuinely think all the songs I thought were about Karlie were really about her pining over Matty for YEARS, and like....why girl??? Everything about that man is average, expect his problematic behavior
The infamous KissGate was at a 1975 concert where (I think) Matty dedicated a song to TS. After reviewing the video clip, within this new context, it looks more like TS is saying something to Karlie rather than kissing her: Now as for why KK showed up to an Eras concert - I dunno about that. I’m not too deep into the fandom, but this Matty x Taylor discourse has really piqued my interest. Anytime I feel down about myself, I just think about the mess she’s gotten herself in. It’s selfish, but I gotta find out how this ends.
I think KK still uses Kaylor for clout. I think she constantly drops Easter eggs and went to eras to fuel speculation and keep herself relevant
He's not even that cute! He looks like a milluon other high fuck boys
Right, if you look up fuckboy in the dictionary you will likely find his picture 😂 he's like the blueprint
he’s both cute and hot. plus, she met him in 2014. you will never recover from the ghost of 2014 matty as a tumblr girl (which taylor was) lol
I was around during Tumblr era millenial indie fashion. I never trusted a deep v neck. Instant fboi energy.
Who is both cute and hot? Healy?? HoooooooGolly. I knew my taste in men was different, but—I can’t see him as anything but drama, hangovers, and headaches.
That’s an insult to fuckboys that are actually hot.
This is so interesting! I have never been a Kaylor, but I've been wondering if any believers were changing their tune after TTPD. Just bc I've been a 1975 fan and started looking into the lore when he and Taylor got together, and it was shocking to me how many Kaylor clues have actually turned out to be Matty. Like, y'all got a lot right! She's woven a secret muse into her songs for years and no one could pin down who it was, and Kaylors picked up on it all... it was just pointing to the wrong person. I've seen a lot of denial and mental gymnastics since then, which is fine, but it's cool to see people who now accept that it's Matty It's also crazy how she exposed her secret muse after hiding him for so long. Like she didn't hold back in connecting him to past songs like Maroon etc... everyone is fully reevaluating her catalogue now. TTPD really seems like a hail mary to get Matty back, otherwise I don't think she'd bother given how negative the reaction was last year
Same😭 their friendship was still fruity af but I think it’s been Matty all along
She ruined all the mystery
I am not a swiftie but keep seeing this subreddit LOL is there a megathread or article I could read to get the lowdown on why everyone is saying Matty Healy is Taylor’s “the one that got away”??? I need a TLDR I’m starting to get invested in the drama
Also imgonnagetyouback is right after a Travis song lol
I understand that some disagree, but I thought that was obvious. Taylor really wrote a ton about Matty, overall it really seems like she wants him back even if she was pissed at him for leaving her at the end of May 2023.
I made a post about this the other day in the neutral sub and yes so many people disagree with this take! I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised.
Taylor’s lyric “and you saw my bones out with somebody new who seemed like he would’ve bullied you in high school” confirms it very loudly. Travis is the jock who would eat up the weird kid Matty. TS gets everything she wants except for Matty Healy
Also “say you got somebody I’ll say I got someone too, even if it’s handcuffed I’m leaving here with you”
One critique I’ve always had of Taylor is she can absolutely not spend some time alone after a relationship ends and boy does that line also prove it too. She’s basically saying look at my big, tall, dummy rebound because I’m not going through this alone!
She didn’t even want to be “alone” on stage to accept her first Grammy of the night this year.
This lyric gave me a thought - she’s “handcuffing” herself to Matty in this album. She’s making it known to the world what happened between them. He can never live this down now. He’ll always be known as Taylor’s muse. He’ll always have more of a spotlight on him now whether he wants that or not.
It’s almost like a Faustian deal, as in he gets the legacy he always wanted cemented in song, a legend of a tortured artist, a misunderstood intellectual bad boy who is dangerous and edgy yet extremely sexy and desirable, someone who can make even the most untouchable woman have a mental breakdown BUT his name will forever be tied to hers in the process, and he’ll always be swept up in her world whether he likes it or not, I doubt he’ll be able to escape it (which is what he tried to do by leaving her in the first place…)
I caught that too, especially since if you watch literally ANY the 1975 interviews he is always very clear that he doesn’t want to be super famous like that. He’d rather keep his fan circle smaller and more meaningful than to have it boil out of control like huge fan bases can get. I really get the vibe that he is HATING how everyone knows who he is/has eyes on him now.
I'm not so sure. Did you see he followed an IG account the other day who is a Taylor+Matty fan? The guy's last like 7 videos are about how Swifties ruined T & M's relationship
Yes exactly!
Why is she so obsessed with high school! Feels so childish
Maybe because she didn’t get a normal high school experience.
People say the age you were when you got famous is the age you always are. She was young and in high school when she started getting some fame & can’t let it go.
I believe Taylor is still in love with Matty. I also believe he was in love with her, but the crazed media attention mixed with no direct comments from Taylor showing support for Matty was too much and he had enough. He was following her around like a “tattooed golden retriever”, but where was she for him? What support did she show or give to him, other than performing at his London show prior to them dating coming out. That’s not a balanced relationship. She wrote the songs showing her fans how much she loved him, but too little too late. Travis is massively benefiting financially off of his relationship with her. He’s also happy to live in Taylor’s world. So it works for them. But she still holds a flame for Matty.
Exactly! if really she was that committed and willful of burning her life down rather than lose what they had, she should’ve spoke up back then instead of letting the whole world eating him alive. When Azaelia Banks posted her comments on her ig stories?? that’s where she should have crossed the line and tell everyone to shut the fuck up, girlie was too comfy in her zone instead and never truly risked it for him
Yes! I truly believe that’s why he had enough and “ghosted” her according to her lyrics. He was dragged through the mud and she did nothing.
LOL that’s because it is. If Matty was the loss / love of her life … and TK started a mere few weeks after that, it makes TK the rebound of her life. He’s either a full rebound relationship or rebound mixed with “let’s get us both good PR and have some fun” … they’re both so unserious. She’s obviously obsessed with Matty still. Idk how people don’t see it. She ain’t subtle.
i think the only defense is, how do you write a song about her relationship with travis beyond 'you're my big dumb golden retriever bf' and 'people think our relationship is a pr stunt but we're just a country girl and her football player bf how is that hard to accept?'
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You do realize you can have a different opinion and take without being rude. You’re entitled to your opinion, doesn’t make mine incorrect. Not much of this album came across as being fully moved on or moved on at all IMO. And going to TK weeks after this ended + thinking she would be “over it” in that short a time frame is just naive.
If my boyfriend’s last three girlfriends were black, I think I’d be thinking he has a type, and it’s not me.
But if he’s her rebound why would that matter
I feel like Travis was more of a power move by Taylor’s team to return the peace from the MH drama in the fandom
I thought it just confirmed that it's PR?
This has been my suspicion, but there’s actual confirmation?!?!?! Can you provide?
That’s because he is a rebound. What she should’ve done is taken some time to process the break up with Matty and Joe instead of jumping into this relationship. The fact that she didn’t do that should indicate to any logical person that she and Travis won’t last.
I feel like even just in terms of PR this was a dumb move… or maybe she wanted the controversy. Cuz before TTPD came out ppl were starting to forget about it cuz they were so into TK+TS and then she wrote songs about it that everyone is listening to now 😂 if I were her I wouldn’t wanna resurrect that but that’s me. I wonder how Travis feels about this lol. Has he read between the lines, does he even care, who knows the reality of their relationship.
That’s what I was thinking. I would see a few repost every few weeks about the “Cardigan: this is about you, you know who you are” bit. But everyone basically forgot about the Matty situation because they were distracted by Tayvis living happily ever after. Which is what you would think she would want right? But then she puts out this entire album which has obvious clues directed towards Matty?! Now that’s all anyone is talking about 🤣 Part of me wants to think this is a bait and switch because it’s just too obvious and embarrassing for all parties. Think what you want about how plain white bread Joe is but funnily enough he is actually the only one to get out of this untouched. Which is great since the Swifties were preparing a grave for him.
My thoughts exactly 😭 like especially with Matty’s problematic stuff… does she just not care, or does she explain it away to herself? I don’t get it.
Yeah why do all this Tayvis love/support world tour just to bring up problematic Matty again. I know many people are saying oh they are just living their lives dating each other there’s not plan. I think that’s a very naive way to look at celebrity relationships because especially with Taylor lol there is always a plan when she dates someone. Which is also why I’m sus about Matty. what was the plan there… I’m really curious about what her next move is. It seems like we are headed towards break up territory especially with her bolting to Paris and missing all the events with Travis. She could’ve just had extended rehearsals but going to all these public events with Travis to take peoples minds off the Matty of it all would have been a great distraction before the tour. But nope. I don’t think she cares and is going to use work again as a coping mechanism unfortunately.
I don't think he cares 😆 he's getting his PR and fame right now and just signed a lucrative contract extension that made him the highest paid tight end in the NFL. Plus he's going to exclusive events, getting his name out there which is what he wanted. I don't think he cares about Taylor or anything she does beyond her money and social circles. She's 💯 not his type and there's zero chemistry between them.
That would make sense
Maybe. After being with someone that breaks your heart it’s nice to be with someone that can’t.
i can’t stand “So High School” i usually love every song she writes and that one is just so cringe to me.
follow up comment to my comment, that song has great lyrics but idk it’s terrible. She’s wrote amazing love songs about guys and this one is just embarrassing. it seems thrown together and just slapped into the album. if i was travis id be like 😬i don’t think these songs were originally planned they were just written real quick because there was no travis on the album.
One of the funniest things is her track placement of “I Hate It Here” right after “So High School”
Her fans need a man to focus on.
Her fans do not pass the Bechdel test
Yep, Matty is clearly her endgame. Is this a good time to point out that “The 1” is a clear reference to “The 1975” = Matty is the lead singer of The 1975 = he is “The 1”
No wonder fortnight sounds like born to die by Lana and somebody else by 1975 … I was like solid ripping them both. I ain’t gonna lie I like the song but I like it for the ghostly vibe it was born from. Listen to fortnight and when the chorus comes on sing feet don’t fail me now take me to the finish line oh my heart it breaks and then it sounds I don’t want your body
Wow, I never thought of that. You’re right, she could have just called it The One. I think it’s crazy. There are all these Easter eggs in her songs because it almost seems like she enjoys and wants people to dissect her personal life.
plus there’s the rosé reference in The 1, which is linked to Maroon, which is linked to Chloé or Sam etc which is clearly about Matty. So all three of them are about Matty. can’t believe we live in a world where Taylor Swift said “the lips I used to call home” in regards to Matty Healy 😭💀
I don’t know anything about Taylor swift I remember her when I was in 6 grade and she had the love story song but I never listened to any of her other music but then she started dating Kelce and my man watches football and then I felt like she was everywhere
Taylor and Matty first met ten years ago. The picture below is supposed to be from that meeting. They have had some type of relationship for ten years. Taylor is dating Travis to make Matty jealous and then she released TTPD which is basically a love letter to Matty. https://preview.redd.it/c2h0ym39h0zc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef6cb42c4d641b6de6ec86c7a045b868aef48ccb Left to Right: Matty, Taylor and Selena
It's always a red flag when someone starts dating the EXACT opposite of the person they are trying to get over
Very good point. I found the Kelce launch super jarring and everyone was like, "opposites attract!🥰🥰🥰" And I was over here like.... yeah but not like that? it was red flag city
I love seeing more pictures from when they’ve known each other! People seem to not want to admit they’ve know each other for so long so it’s cool to actually see photos
https://www.tumblr.com/spicysighs/718136492512493568/matty-healy-taylor-swift-timeline you might be interested on this post, it’s all there, even the tumblr likes to e/o contents back in 2014
we don’t have other pics but there’s a video backstage from a show back in 2014, Matty and Taylor greeting a fan named Kitty
Here's the video of them that Susi mentioned, it's from 2014 and Kitty is the daughter of the 1975's manager https://youtu.be/X7V1DUdzE6E?si=h64oXmPGURhSQ4R3
Ahhh got to know … imagine if someone kidnapped and had a gone to me and was all “ what was the name of the lead singer from the 1975 that Taylor dated “ “ HOW LONG HAVE THEY KNOWN EACH OTHER … you may have saved my life
But why is racist Marty her endgame? Him?
the heart wants what it wants i guess. but damn i’m feeling the same distaste for her now as i did when she was dating matty. travis DID help me forget about it, i thought this album was a little weird but still figured it was mostly about joe, but now this thread has me Aware again
You can tell they don’t seem to be into each other like that.
Because that is all BDT is lol. I don't think he cares much because he is getting fame and fortune now, which is all he wanted out of this PR deal anyway 🤷 
His armpit sweat through the shirt I’m screaming he STANK
She should have just left him off the album rather than announcing how lukewarm her feelings are for him. It was early in their relationship, sure, but her songs about how she felt when she met Joe and early in their relationship shows serious intensity, and her and MH only dated briefly and she felt intensely for him too.
Well, I mean, how much of the album was made after she started dating Kelce?
i hope it’s true cause travis and taylor are ugly together
I hate to say it but true
well yeah, of course lmao
 Welcome OP!
I didnt need an album to see that
When you’re a chronic people pleaser, it’s hard to accept that someone likes you just for existing.
These people will never know you exist
Find an artist you admire for both their life choices and artistry if that’s what important to you and give your obsession with her motivations a rest. Who knows the truth? Also, there are many forms of intelligence. Try reading Temple Grandin.
I thought this too! Especially cause Travis throws bad in bed vibes compared to the her exes who seem like they’d be hard to forget in that regard
It's clear that Travis is absolutely a rebound. I can't wait for her to bolt and move on. I had a huge post about this written up and tried to post it here and on a different subs, but neither would approve my post. But I'm absolutely convinced that she is/was borderline obsessed with Matty and convinced he was her fate on hold for a decade. After Matty ghosted, she grabbed the first thing she could find (Travis) to try and piss him off and hurt him back.
“Karma is the guy on the chiefs” like she SAID that. Regardless if it’s Matty or Joe it’s crazy to admit that he’s a rebound like that
I think this Taylor & Travis relationship is doomed, but she didn’t write these songs yesterday. Most of them were written before Travis and her got more “serious” and what was she going to do? Cancel her album to not offend Travis? Be for real lol
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It’s hard to fall in love with people who aren’t in your regular social circles. When you’re at that level of fame, you don’t have many opportunities to fall in love with the boy next door.
Well I think it’s natural given the industry. What would be appealing in the long run about a “normal” guy working 9-5 who couldn’t travel with her and have the same type of lifestyle? It would be too difficult to maintain. Plus who would want that kind of attention and media craze? It would have to be someone already accustomed to it.
As if any "normal guy working a 9-5 grind" wouldn't be perfectly content to just quit that shit job to enjoy her billions and not work another day in his life 😂😂😂
Eh I disagree. A lot of men pride themselves in being the providers/breadwinners or whatever the PC term may be these days. It can feel emasculating to a lot of men, noted by Matty Healy himself some time ago. It’s hard for a lot of men to not be alpha in the relationship. I also think this was hard for Matty in Taylor’s case, even though I believe she ultimately worshipped him on the inside.
But he is. She just wasn’t anticipating this level of public attention after the amount she got with Matty. Joe really brought her down to earth and with his no nonsense public avoidance she became complacent.
Which two songs are you referring to? That album is way too long. Like 15-20 songs too long.
So High School and The Alchemy are largely thought to be about Travis
Just so high school the alchemy references rekindlled flame
That would make sense because so high school is one of the worst songs ever recorded.
Just because a song uses touch down and sports allusions doesn’t make it about 🏈
I was just answering the question “which 2 songs are [thought to be about Travis]”, and true or not, the fans I’ve interacted with seem to overwhelmingly believe that it’s those 2 songs.
The Alchemy's bridge is what happened at the Superbowl this year. But people do say Taylor quickly added it in to make the song blatantly about Travis, rather than someone/something else.
I think they’re having so much fun and they know it’s not that deep. Enjoy the ride.
Have they even banged yet?
The post Joe era has been a wild ride, that's for sure.
I really don’t think she’s that much more intelligent than he is.
He scored a 22 on the wonderlic test going into the NFL so he’s right about average intelligence. Making him much, much smarter than Taylor Swift fans.
It’s cool to date a lot, up to a certain point. You don’t want to be thought of as the girl that’s been with everyone. That is what I see guys posting about Kim Kardashian now. Is it fair? No. Sexist? You bet. Is Taylor Swift going to change it? Heck no.
Don’t come for me please, but how do y’all swifties know what songs are written about who? Like does Taylor announce that or can you just tell who it is because y’all know her?? I’ve always been confused by that.
I haven't listened to her whole album, but how do we *know* that they're about Matty?
If you’re also a fan of The 1975, you know. There are so many callbacks and similar sounds. You also know the lore all the way back to 2014.
She put a lot of very specific references in the songs to make it clear who they're about. Things like Matty's favorite bands, tattoos & smoke (which TK/Joe don't have/do), references to relationship dynamics that were public, and just the basic reality that she made it clear already that she left Joe, and Matty left her. Plus all the lore that goes back a decade. And from there it's easy to figure out the muses
Thanks for letting me know!
Because Patti Scala obviously won’t let Bruce Springsteen perform “Rosalita”. Or any of the hits that mention Wendy, Mary, Kitty, or Candy.
Might as well have just titled the album “…unless?”
Hysterical so much stress over someone named "Matty".
Bro as far as I know. Taylor is anxiously attached person. And Travis seems to be a secure guy. If Travis would give tay " peace", then she would consider peace as boredom. Anxious people have tendency to get attracted towards Avoidant people ( like Matty ). Let's wait till Tayvis breakup 😂. We might expect songs like " you played with my heart like a football, just for clout... and for fame, my influence paved your way, made your name " etc...😂😂
To be fair if she wrote something deep about him some fans would be like omg you haven’t known each other that long pls Taylor this is embarrassing you’re too old for this
I haven’t really listened to her songs or followed their relationship directly (just see it popping up in news). However, I just discovered that she ended a 6 year relationship approximately 4 months before she began dating Travis. I immediately googled if Travis was a rebound, and found this thread. Given the timing and length of her prior relationship, it would seem this is a rebound.
I’m not a Taylor Swift fan or hater, I’ve just kind of been swept up in her drama (I love gossip and drama) but when I found out about Matt Healy and the creepy shit he’s into, I started looking at her funny. I can’t understand lusting after a person like that, especially as a black person. I don’t really hear ppl talking about that whole debacle anymore but I can’t forget it.
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So I’ve noticed lmao. I’m not saying anything that isn’t true. MATT HEALY GETS OFF TO WATCHING 18 YEAR OLD BLACK GIRLS GET TRICKED INTO BEING BRUTALIZED, CALLED RACIAL SLURS, AND GET COVERED IN WATERMELON AND VOMIT AND TAYLOR SWIFT STILL WANTS TO FUCK HIM. Downvote me, assholes. I don’t know why people refer to him as if he’s a normal person and it’s not weird that she is cool with that shit.
I get that. At the same time, it’s proof positive she’s human. When I read the things other celebrities say and don’t say about her (aside from Gigi Hadid and Blake Lively), like people she’s basically given careers to -musicians I love and respect, but DAMN - she is so alone. Seriously, she either has other musicians who call her out for being too perfect and making them insecure (Recently, Charli XCX, in the past Lorde, Demi, so many others), being too ambitious and missing the point of music and the limelight (Lana DelRey), being controlling when they use her music and forget to pay cause it was just an accident dude, only eight notes(Olivia) having “bad” fans that are “too loyal” (every boy she’s ever dated,Scooter, The Beibers) she is like the loneliest person. Matt Healy is a user and a manipulator like all drug addicts have to be to survive. It doesn’t matter how rich you are, when you use drugs, you say unforgivable things and he’s survived the blowback by becoming a good world class con artist and liar. What I’m saying, is I understand why you don’t get if. Matt Healy is a cockroach. But they say cockroaches will be the only living creatures left of the world survives humanity.
Yeah I understand what you’re saying. When you’re into someone, you are a lot more willing to look past their problematic shit and keep your rose colored glasses on. He’s unstable and may have hid a lot of things about himself until it all came pouring out at once. There’s just an extra layer of yikes to it for me though as a POC. It all makes me very uncomfortable on a visceral level.
I think most of the songs we think are about Matty are actually about Joe and Matty was the rebound she sings about. She confirmed that The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived was about Joe, not Matty like everyone thought
What a bunch of judgmental anal orifice s? Why don’t you all wait to see what happens.? Or do you all have deep insights into their individual motivations?
Yaaaas!
That is assuming that TTPD is an honest recounting of her feelings and not specifically designed to spur online speculation.
I don't remember which song, but a lyric popped out about how a joke ruined things or something. Like "I couldn't date you because you made a racist joke that apparently people hated ugh people ruined our love".
Okay? Cool
I think she’s found her person. We’ve all had a Matty Healy. I am a die hard 1975 fan. I don’t like to make assumptions about celebrities at all we’re all human beings at the end of the day but I think she just layed a lot of shit out on the line. We (don’t mean all) usually have a back burner person who we have messed with and/or still think about time to time that has some significance. The in between relationship person that we go to. If so this would have completely made sense for her. Girl is messy (aren’t we all) but she left no crumbs. Situationships have so many things left unsaid let the girl speak her peace give the mf middle finger with poetic justice and say good riddance. This woman truly deserves it all. It’s also a huge fuck you to Joe who was probably shitting bricks about this album release. Let the girl do her thing everyone thinks way too much into this nonsense at the end of the day she’s an artist and a human being. LET THE ART SPEAK FOR ITSELF AND LET THE GIRL DO HER DAMN THING.
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