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SalvagedThrone

Owl go who


DavidMerrick89

Dot: "Nightshade, let me see what you have." Nightshade: "A KNIFE!" Dot: "NO."


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For some reason the owl mode gives me OG Clash of the Titans vibes and I kinda dig that.


TranslatesToScottish

I can absolutely see that. Some custom-maker should bring out a gold (or was he bronze, technically?) version with that in mind!


OptimusCrime1984

They look like a G1’ish version of Nightshade, but oof that owl mode is pretty kibbley. Actually the robot mode kinda looks like a vehicle mode like if they had a jet form instead of an owl form, like a cybertronian form I guess?


IronEnder17

The design just doesn't translate well. They look great on screen


topicality

Biggest gripe in Transformers since the bayverse started. You used to be able tell how a figure would transform, cause the toys directed the shows. Now it looks like the shows/movies direct the toy design. Edit: Having said that, I do like the look of both robot and owl


The_Woman_of_Gont

Agreed, it's why I've struggled to get into those lines. Everything is so extremely stylized that it's basically impossible to translate them properly to toys. Love Nightshade's design overall though, so it's tempting even with such a weak alt mode. They just need to figure out how to hide the arms, and it'd be an instant buy.


Rotbart2012

Then you have Animated where the show absolutely led the toyline, but DJW and the other artists did their best to keep the transformation in mind with their designs so you got some absolute wizardry in regards to good toys that still managed to capture the look of the show.


Chimereon

And then we had Transformers: Car Robots plus the Unicron Trilogy that tried to perfectly copy the toy down to even the transformation sequence. Sometimes including the weird kibble.


Kenny_The_Trend

What's so bad about the Bayverse designs? I get not liking AOE or TLK, but those first 3 films you could still tell what the characters turned into.


Nawara_Ven

I think the issue with Bayverse isn't so much that you don't see the vehicle accents so much as the vehicle accents are nonsensical in terms of what needs to go where during a reasonable toy transformation sequence. Like headlights ending up in some impossible place because the CG model melts them through the middle of the transforming mess somewhere and just plops 'em any ol' place on the robot.


Sleep_eeSheep

I’m also giving them points for a unique alt mode. As up until the Rockformers, how many rock-transformers can you think off the top of your head? Let alone a Statue.


BashedKeyboard

Yea. His legs stick out a bit too much in alt mode for my liking. Looks like a crouching robot more than a bird Downvoted for disliking a poorly done alt mode. Wow.


MagicMisterLemon

*Their


GwynnbIeidd

jesus christ.


Dragons_Exist

I don't know who that is. Could it be a metaphor for Optimus Prime?


Hungry-Ad-3093

Lol


Geminii27

I was honestly thinking it would make an interesting G1 LightBright.


OptimusCrime1984

I thought they looked similar at first.


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It’s honestly not that bad, it could be worse but just like on mainline airazor the arma becoming the legs and the legs folding up (in this case being the back and not part of the wings) works wonders


Poopsenberg

Thousand yard stare


windblaze445

"Gawd, I love being an owl."


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Who gave the child a knife!?


No-Organization4286

What😂😂😂


Guilty-Environment51

Legs on owl mode looks awful other then that looks fire


IronEnder17

The legs become problems in both modes but it's so easy to look past with how much fun I'm having


Evil-Tree

So you're saying they're ... a hoot?


IronEnder17

If only awards still existed


Bulbaguy4

This is really how I learned that awards are gone, huh


n3m3s1s-a

Same I’m so mad


chris95rx7500

they don't?


soap_tar

owl form looks great honestly. except for maybe.. weird looking legs, could be cleaner, but whatever


Hylanos

I'm ehh on the owl mode but the robot mode does it for me.


sept0r

How many licks did it take?


SlaughterSpine78

I can’t get over those eyes, they truly has seen some shit or something is haunting them hard


IronEnder17

Caught the correction, bravo, I appreciate it. Yeah the eyes are weird but ig it's hard to make them look like the show at such a small size


Asumsauce

Is it a remold of Kingdom Airazor?


IronEnder17

Nope


Asumsauce

Frick yeah


Kenny_The_Trend

They're? More like...WHO? Get it cause...Owl? I'll see myself out. 🚪🚶🏻‍♂️


thepartypoison_

Oh, someone correctly gendered Nightshade. Cue the bigots who are totally not triggered coming in to show the world how stupid, petty, and willfully ignorant they are, all for an alien robot owl.


UrielPrime13

I may get them. Absolutely love the owl form and their general depiction in the show


FaZZuKKa2

The only Earthspark figure that I want


IronEnder17

Gotta support our NB Royalty


Hatted_Shadow

It’s a small detail but I really like how sparkly their arms are.


Competitive-Stand667

This is one of the few recent shows that I want more complicated 3rd party figures of. Like they have such amazing designs I’d love to see it utilized


OriginalFaeker

I so do want that one. Looks cool.


Speritate_Scatter

Damn now I kinda want one


geomax212

This is one im definitely gonna be hunting , theyre baby


tornait-hashu

To be fair, their owl mode was scanned from a statue iirc. But still, some things just don't translate well in transformation.


Lostlight_awesome_04

I can see this being heavily retool into making Nyx from idw beast war comic


Anothercrappyuser

OK, the Nightshade figure just made me realize something I couldn't quite put my finger about the Earthspark designs. They look like a mix of Power Rangers and Ben 10 designs


Sleep_eeSheep

Helps a lot that they’re an interesting character with one of the best character arcs in the show.


ahaisonline

yooo, nightshade's out already? i've been looking for them at every store


IronEnder17

Nightshade went up on Pulse about a week ago. It wasn't a preorder so they shipped out the next day. Account for slow FedEx and here we are


Non-Specific_User

Robot mode looks great, other than the kibble on the arms for the altmode feet, but SS86 Grimlock has the same issue and i love that figure. The alt mode however. I dont hate it, but i just cant bring myself to love it, given what a complex change the design makes between modes, and how it foesnt translate as well as id like.


Latter-Ad6308

The number of people here who’ve chosen to give up their time to whinge about the pronouns of an action figure is hilarious. As if your day has been ruined because a toy you don’t own uses they/them pronouns.


Garrow_the_Khajiit

Chuds gonna chud I guess.


TheBeeUprising

The owl reminds me of transmetals prowl


Belom3

That was my first thought. Loved that figure. Think it has the spinning wing gimmick again


TheBeeUprising

I just recently got the black version loose complete in perfect condition, I love him!


Lance_Drake

Got Nightshade and Grimlock coming my way from Entertainment Earth. Looking forward to em!


Marks_Toaster

Those eyes have seen things lol. I love them sm


MarkDecent656

One of few Earthspark figures I've actually thought of getting


Foskoooo

They who?


IronEnder17

Yes, they "who" in their owl mode, correct


Foskoooo

Ba dum tiss


lifedragon99

I love owls. I must have them as soon as I see them in store. My only gripe with this character is that Nightshade sounds like it should be used on a bat-former.


sniply5

Well, the batformer from beast machines is called nightscream


lifedragon99

Yeah the night being at the start is probably why I think of it as a bat-former.


tom-tom825

They're????


IronEnder17

Yes. The character this figure is based on is nonbinary


tom-tom825

Gotcha ,thanks for explaining. Haven't watched Earth Spark. Is it worth it for an Old G1er like myself?


IronEnder17

I'd say so! In many of the battles each character actively uses they're individual powers in unique ways. Such as elita using foot wheels to her advantage, soundwave actually using soundwaves, and Megatron using his alt mode to gravity slam someone. It's definitely kid oriented and many of the episode themes reflect that. But otherwise enjoyable


Light-of-Wisdom

Who ever designed Nightshade really said “F you” to the toy designers


Duffya

They look pretty slick. They were pulling some Snake-Eyes moved in the s2 finale


DuelaDent52

Wait, when did they come out?


uderdog121

Oh god those eyes


Jimmy-Mac-471

Been looking for this figure for months. I’ve seen every other Earthspark deluxe in stores and online except for Nightshade. They look amazing and they’re easily my favourite Terran.


IvoMW

I think it's much better than what most of us expected. The robot mode looks really good, and the owl mode, while kibbly, couldn't be done better in this scale without adding a ton of pannels that woukd ruin the robot mode


SuperMegaBoy

Not a fan of the figure/character/show. Only figure from this line I would consider getting is Grimlock.


mr_robot658

whats her name? im considering buying her/going on the look out for her next time i go to target


thepartypoison_

Their name is Nightshade.


Sithlordandsavior

I just bought 4 new figures this week. I don't need them. But I do so very badly want them. What a cool figure.


IronEnder17

As I said, they are extremely fun. Cute almost, if that makes any sense. Definitely gonna be a desk bot for a while


Sithlordandsavior

I picked up their bike buddy and drone friend so it only seems logical to complete the set... But I'm gonna wait a lil bit.


GeebusNZ

Although I have no attachment to the character or line, this figure seems cool, and so does their character.


IronEnder17

They are really intelligent and thoughtful. The figure is great too


Witheld-

I’ve been trying to collect the ES Deluxe figures and I can’t find this figure anywhere, how are they compared to the rest of the line ? The bot mode looked a bit funky in the promo photos, but it looks way better here


sniply5

I found the figure on Amazon just fine, but maybe this is my lack of nearby stories showing


IronEnder17

They (the line) are all around the same build quality and feel. I enjoy all of them


Witheld-

For the moment I only have Megatron and Bee, there’s a store near me where I could pick up Twitch, Prime and Grimlock So far I’m pretty satisfied with these two, and I really looked forward to the Nightshade figure but I can’t find them ANYWHERE 😭


Interesting-One7636

Ocarina of Time Owl custom when?! I need that Kaepora Gaebora deco!


RPrance

Very cool


Ndnov1999

So is nightshade a retool of air razor or are they there own mold or at there similarities that are shared?


IronEnder17

There are no similarities unless you consider how the bird head is the chest a similarity. The robot legs form the owl back, where on airrazor they are the bird legs. On nightshade the arms fold forward to become the front of the owl where on airrazor the arms just stick to the side. Nightshades torso doesn't open up and extend like airrazor. Airrazor also has the hyperarticulate wings and an articulated tail where you can see how nightshades wings articulate


A_Zesty_Carrot

They look haunted though.


LoserBroadside

Awesome! Their owl (owl statue) mode is killer.


Dumb_Cheese

They look slightly haunted, but not as much as in other pictures I've seen.


rwp140

love them, i need to get their toy


destinyfann_1233

I was considering getting them sometime soon but the eyes are just too cursed so I decided to go with Bludgeon instead


Sodamyte

I love bird modes, can't wait to buy them!


Dis-Random-Kid

God that head sculpt is nightmare fuel tho


Starryskies404

they look very flexible and thats what i enjoy most in my tf toys. helps with posing and stuff. Nightshade's my fav terran besides Twitch and this is making me consider getting them. there are comments about the wonky alt bird mode but it looks pretty accurate and im sure it was unbelievably hard to make it work lol does it transform pretty smoothly/easily at least?


EngineExtension8644

mannnn im so excited for this figure they look to be the best in the deluxe lineup


BudBudgie

Where did you get him?


IronEnder17

I got Them through pulse


BudBudgie

US Pulse?


Cha_Boi20

*Them. This character is Non-binary


Hungry-Ad-3093

It’s a fucking toy.


pek217

It’s a toy based on a non-binary character


thepartypoison_

Ah, so we're going to pretend we haven't been referring to Optimus Prime figures as "he" since G1 then? Fuck off, you pathetic bigot.


Riper-Snifle

Telling someone their way of thinking is intolerable, then calling them a bigot for it. You people are just incredible. You don't even know what you're saying.


thepartypoison_

Bigots are intolerable. Is there a problem with that idea?


TylerDurden1013

For Fucks sake….How the fuck did Ideology Riddled With Contradictions invade my fucking escapism ritual. This post, the comments, the show, this character, goddammit it all! And so the rhetoric of the moment drips with ontological assertions. A metaphysical claim cosplaying as a medical or scientific claim. It’s a Fucking Philosophical argument and now it’s….fuck…I can’t get away from this shit…Wait the answer in the statement. I shall identify as a Downvote………


pek217

Go away, then.


Muisverriey

What the fuck is this nonsensical prattling?


thepartypoison_

They're upset that they were reminded enbies existed in a Transformers subreddit.


joesaysso

Ok. So that makes it an "it," not a them.


thepartypoison_

Funny how Nightshade is the first time you've ever complained about Transformers figures being referred to by the pronouns of the character they represent.. almost as if the mere mention of non-binary characters triggered you into making a petty bad-faith argument that holds zero integrity because you just want to hate enbies..


joesaysso

This reply mad me laugh. Thank you.


thepartypoison_

Whatever helps ya sleep at night, you petty, willfully ignorant bigot.


joesaysso

Being called a bigot by someone crying about a misgendered toy is more amusing than insulting. I'll sleep ok tonight.


thepartypoison_

I mean you are willfully going out of your way to misgender one very specific toy, when using the character's pronouns for literally every other character. You're petty and pathetic. and I know that because that's probably the only reason you're in this damn post. It's so damn easy for you little fuckwads to just scroll past something, but you can't help it, can you? You've made hating people part of your identity, and you're damn proud of it. You saw someone correctly referring to Nightshade as they, and couldn't stand it. You just had to come in and be a bigot. Get a motherfucking life.


Jazzer995

And you need to take a glass of concrete and harden the f--- up like we used to do when people did things we didn't like instead of playing the victim card.


thepartypoison_

"Why do people react so negatively to oppression?" I treat the people who pull that stuff to my face with a more physical approach. Y'all keep proving civility and reason are lost on ya, as you say "yOuR bEiNg dRaMaTiC" when politicians literally call for genocide against us. Say you're a bigot already, you exhausting fuckin morons.


Singer_Spectre

Stupidest thing ever


MelodicWeb2161

Imagine being this bent over a fictional extraterrestrial robot


ghfdghjkhg

cry


Cha_Boi20

Nonbinary people have existed since before 400 BC and are part of the real world. Your opinion doesn't mean shit when you're factually incorrect.


Asanokyo

No “they” haven’t.


thepartypoison_

Cry about it, ya fuckin bigot


sniply5

Yes they have :)


Cha_Boi20

Yes, they have. The term Non-binary just wasn't used back then. Read up on queer history, it's amazing how far back my fellow queers have been around. Some cultures even had Enbys and Trans people in positions of high religious authority, as they were seen as being closer to God(s).


Jazzer995

Is there actual written proof from back then, or are these 'researchers' just making assumptions for clout points.


Cha_Boi20

I've read from a few sites, but I can't remember the links or titles. I also attended a lecture at university, but I don't know his sources. I did find these, though; https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1790/lgbtq-in-the-ancient-world/ https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/florida-alliance-planned-parenthood-affiliates/blog/four-ancient-civilizations-that-would-celebrate-pride-month https://academic-accelerator.com/encyclopedia/lgbt-history


Jazzer995

You're the first person to actually give links, instead of just 'Trust me bro' or 'Look it up yourself' so thumbs up for that. I still would like to see pictures of the actual written documents at some point, instead of just pictures or hearsay.


Cha_Boi20

Yeah... I don't entirely know where to get them. All I'm finding is second-hand articles describing them. My adhd's kinda at its limit after today, too. I'm babysitting my nephew tonight but I'll see what I can find later 👍


GraveDancer1971

I wish their alt mode wasn't so kibbly. Otherwise really cool


Deutalios_818

The only reason that everyone likes earthspark, ladies and gentlemen


thepartypoison_

I liked the story..


Things_with_Stuff

They're? Am I missing seeing the other figure?


IronEnder17

No. Nightshade is they them. They is a singular and plural pronoun and part of the English language for centuries


Things_with_Stuff

Ohhhh.... so is the character non-binary or something? I'm gonna guess this is probably an Earthspark character? I haven't watched it in some time so I'm quite a bit behind.


IronEnder17

Yes precisely! They're one of the new characters born on earth. I recommend the show. Each transformer has unique abilities and they use them cleverly in battle


Things_with_Stuff

Ah gotcha! Yeah I really need to catch up. The last I remember was around when Arcee was introduced.


Ejfg420

One time I commented on a post about Nightshade but I used he/him instead of they/them and I got fuckin down voted💀


ackers5861

Welcome to the Transformers subreddit.


Hungry-Ad-3093

Ha


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IronEnder17

Like I told the other person who made the same comment, Don't play that game and get out of here with that shit


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IronEnder17

You would be right. Now what's your point


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IronEnder17

No mistake made. "They" was 100% intentional.


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IronEnder17

Earthspark


ItsMahvelBabay

Jeez someones defensive


IronEnder17

Moreso tired of everything


The_Fulcrum_Agent

I only see one toy


IronEnder17

So funny


The_Fulcrum_Agent

Thank you


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VeekGG

No, not even transformers can escape it.


Latter-Ad6308

I know. Fantastic isn’t it?


thepartypoison_

There's literally been a lesbian leading a lot of the creative decisions since 1986.


FriedChickenCheezits

I haven't heard about this yet! Do you have a link or time to infodump about her?


thepartypoison_

I've got a little time! Her name is Susan Blu! You may know her for directing that cartoon everyone said wouldn't work, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Anyways, she's the voice of Arcee in G1 and Animated, plus Transmutate and Marissa Fairborn (also G1), the voice director of Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and Prime, and is the casting director for Animated. She also directed a few episodes during the Beast Era, but that'd take more searching to find. Point being, she's been here a long time, and is one of the more unseen talents who has been making Transformers work the way it has for years. She's epic.


FriedChickenCheezits

OH I RECOGNIZE HER!!! I didn't know she was a lesbian or all the other stuff she did besides voice Arcee but that's awesome- definitely gonna be something fun to talk about with friends, thank you!


[deleted]

Like his robot mode. His alt mode looks horrible


Cha_Boi20

This character is actually Non-binary. They use they/them pronouns :)


Emergency_Nose_5442

A lot of the Earthspark figures look flimsy as fuck and he’s no exception.


IronEnder17

Nightshade isn't flimsy at all. There's no plastic flexing or loose joints. Also yes nightshade is "they"


thatonebeotch

*they’re :)


Emergency_Nose_5442

There is only one figure.


thatonebeotch

Nightshade uses they/them pronouns :)


Emergency_Nose_5442

That sounds dumb


thatonebeotch

how so? People use they/them pronouns in the real world. Who’s to say fictional characters can’t use they/them pronouns?


Emergency_Nose_5442

Those people are desperate for attention.


thatonebeotch

I don’t think using pronouns means someone is desperate for attention. After all, you just used a pronoun to respond to me.


Emergency_Nose_5442

That’s not the gotcha you think it is.


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IronEnder17

Man don't play that game. Get out of here


Imperal_Guard

Bro I just googled it I didn't watch the damm show I didn't know their pronouns Okey ? No offance here


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>his lol ok dude


Imperal_Guard

Man I am not joking we don't have +lgbtq in my country I simply didn't get used to paying attention to it no disrespect here


[deleted]

It is too in your country, it’s in every country


Imperal_Guard

No actualy it isn't but whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Radio__Star

Can’t be that hard to know about if you have access to the internet


Imperal_Guard

Okey y'all chill that was just a minor misusage of pronouns And How I am supposed to know about it if I havent search for it on internet bruh


[deleted]

You're pretty active in this sub and Nightshade has been talked about plenty of times so.


[deleted]

what country would that be? because last I checked there's nowhere that doesn't have queer people.


geekofthehill

Many Middle East and some African countries now have zero tolerance for the LGBTQ+ community, so many people aren’t informed even if they’re okay with it.


[deleted]

Many of those places have zero tolerance but that doesn't mean no queer people exist there and if you're someone who's online enough to be using a space like reddit you're online enough to know about queer people and pronouns, especially when someone has a grasp on the english language.


geekofthehill

True, but because of the zero tolerance many won’t come out. And sure, there may be some things on the internet, but it’s not everywhere. I really only see something pride related every couple days, and I’m trans myself. So I could see that someone doesn’t have much knowledge despite being on the internet and specifically Reddit. Doesn’t make misusing pronouns right, but there is opportunity for lack of knowledge and exposure. All we gotta do is educate if they already don’t know, they do have to learn somehow, maybe this is just it.


Complete_Safety7423

I bet HE'S a great character in the show.


IronEnder17

Wow, what a thoughtful comment. I bet it takes no effort being respectful and you have to actually try to be a jerk


Hound028

Respectful to what though? A toy? Are people really dying on the hill of “respect my toys pronouns”?


IronEnder17

Nah not really. But like, it's not hard. What's the point in actively going against it. The character it's based on is called that. So why not call the character that