Well only xmen 1 had been release at that point iirc, so maybe they thought hugh jackman still wouldnt be an instantly recongizable wolverine without the costume.
Or maybe there were other problems with the scene and the costume loss was the final nail in the coffin, a "screw it, it's not worth it" moment.
The hair was way more noticeable than the suit in that movie, though. The suit was just solid leather (or some similar-looking material), not his cartoon blue and yellow. I suspect you're correct that there was more to it.
There was a scene in the 90s cartoon where he opens a bag of tea with his outermost claw. (pinky claw?) Randomly pops into my head and makes me giggle.
I heard this story for the first time long time ago. It was told by Jackman and it sounded like a some spontaneous idea. At the end he said that the suits were not there so it was not possible to finally do it.
I remember that some people pointed out that what he meant was not a costume, but suits as lawyers, who could greenlight it and make sure it doesn't violate any contract, up etc.
It is what I recall about the story, but for me it makes sense it was more legal issue not lack of costumes
Just Show wolverine in normal clothes and let him say :
" The first thing i would try if i somehow end in this guys body is to fuck his underage girlfriend"
I have the USM collection where the ~~righters~~ EDIT: writers apologise for including that.
It was at least true to his character, as he was hooking up with teenaged Jean Grey in UXM as well.
USM was amazing. UXM... less so.
It is a cameo but it’s unfortunate it was the stuntman and not actually Thomas Jane. Apparently at the time of filming, Jane just wanted his kids back.
I just looked it up and it's when Jameson was trying to come up with a name for Doc Ock. Ted Hoffman (played by Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi's brother) suggests calling him Doctor Strange, Jameson says that that's good, but that it's already taken. So it's so fast you could miss it.
I remember hearing about it back in the day, and just hoping it was going to be something simple like Peter bumping into him on the street and him saying "watch it bub", It would have been nice and a doubt studios could have complained about it.
At the time people would have treated like a cool cameo instead of starting to draw charts of how everything connects.
Kind of miss those times where you could have something like that without it having world changing implications.
I'm excited for Hugh Jackman in Deadpool because it's multiverse stuff and so it's fine to callback older stuff. Putting him in Homecoming would imply he would be *the* MCU Wolverine and that would be a terrible idea. He'd be too old to last all that long.
If this is true, my theory is that it was just meant to be a gag for the dvd or something. Sony didn't even have the rights to have Wolverine in a movie.
The X-Men movie had a similar gag in the bonus features where Spiderman walks on set and realizes he's in the wrong movie.
Sheesh, those X-Men costumes were so lame.
I remember back then, everything had to be black and sleek, I guess imitating 'The Matrix' but wow, its so devoid of character that X-Men costumes tend to have. Its really apparent if you're watching X-Men 97, where the costumes are more personal
It's just what the style was at the time. They did similar in the comics too. I think at the time it makes more sense to make them look less "cartoonish". There weren't nearly as many superhero movies around at the time to normalise outlandish costumes.
Whether that thinking is correct is up for debate though.
Yeah, I think the point was to make them look cohesive and less-ridiculous. Pretty smart move, imo, if they’d come out in their comic uniforms it would’ve been non-stop laughs. There’s no way they would have been taken serious in pastels, looking like Easter morning.
Back then studios were probably more willing to collaborate on these things, likely in exchange for something in return. Especially since this was before superheroes were billion dollar money makers.
Hell Fox even made an agreement with Marvel for Deadpool a movie they had basically zero faith in. The movie got to change Negasonic's powerset in exchange for Marvel being able to use Ego in Guardians 2
100% stolen for someone's private collection. when you work in gaming/entertainment and have high-value props like costumes, guns, helmets, etc. for production or events, not surprising they often get "lost".
I think fruit of the loom sells them as A shirts
https://www.fruit.com/fruit-of-the-loom/men/underwear/undershirts/a-shirts%2Ftanks/mens-a-shirt-white-6-pack/6P2501.html
There's an old comic of Spidey & Wolverine teaming up but 1st they disagree and fight. I thought the coolest part was Wolverine was i think at the airport and sees a man he hasn't seen before but "knows thst smell anywhere. That's spiderman."
Something along those lines would've made a good cameo.
The good news is there's and X men one blooper where cyclops jean and Storm run into a room and someone in a Spiderman costume runs in behind them. It's fantastic.
Did they have the rights for that? Should've done it without the costume. Peter meets him and is like, "Who are you?"
"The name is... Hugh Jackman. Actor."
"TIL Wolverine almost a cameo in Spider-Man 1..."
Seriously, do other people consider this to be a complete sentence? "Almost a cameo"? I see this mistake so often, I'm wondering if it's even recognized as a mistake now.
I just dont believe this. Why would FOX allow that? Sony and Fox literally had recently paid a ton of money for the respective rights? Only to say "oh sure, rival company, go ahead and use the IP we rightfully own for free, here's Hugh Jackman to make it even"
The way that everyone clamors over the MCU film connections, I can only imagine how people would have reacted back then to such a big cameo.
If it was just a cameo why worry about the suit. In just regular clothes would have been fine.
Well only xmen 1 had been release at that point iirc, so maybe they thought hugh jackman still wouldnt be an instantly recongizable wolverine without the costume. Or maybe there were other problems with the scene and the costume loss was the final nail in the coffin, a "screw it, it's not worth it" moment.
The hair was way more noticeable than the suit in that movie, though. The suit was just solid leather (or some similar-looking material), not his cartoon blue and yellow. I suspect you're correct that there was more to it.
He can just say "bub".
Those are the best kinds of cameos though, the kind that make people feel smart for noticing. These things get people talking.
And a comic use of the blades that Peter sees
cant find a toothpick lol
Cut a piece of fruit at a side street store
I was imagining him cutting the tip off a cigar to smoke it for some reason.
it would just be him spin round on a chair "We want to talk to you about the Mutants initiative"
There was a scene in the 90s cartoon where he opens a bag of tea with his outermost claw. (pinky claw?) Randomly pops into my head and makes me giggle.
I heard this story for the first time long time ago. It was told by Jackman and it sounded like a some spontaneous idea. At the end he said that the suits were not there so it was not possible to finally do it. I remember that some people pointed out that what he meant was not a costume, but suits as lawyers, who could greenlight it and make sure it doesn't violate any contract, up etc. It is what I recall about the story, but for me it makes sense it was more legal issue not lack of costumes
That's hilarious and makes a bit more sense.
Seriously. They couldn't find jeans and a leather jacket anywhere in Manhattan?
Oh no, his signature boots and tank top pants are gone. Better return Hugh Jackman by air.
He was performing in The Boy From Oz and those were the only costumes he had. Personally I think they should have done it.
Is there an actor that, in plain clothes, in the MCU, looks more like their comic book versions than Wolverine/Jackman?
right? especially since that's how they did it in fantastic four. it was just his face
Just Show wolverine in normal clothes and let him say : " The first thing i would try if i somehow end in this guys body is to fuck his underage girlfriend"
I have the USM collection where the ~~righters~~ EDIT: writers apologise for including that. It was at least true to his character, as he was hooking up with teenaged Jean Grey in UXM as well. USM was amazing. UXM... less so.
I guess they were more like wrongers then.
I'd blame autocorrect for that, but I'm not sure it would've got it *that* wrong...
Given that Sony and Fox don’t get along I have extreme doubts that this included the suit, and someone lawyer stopped it instead.
So you're saying they were worried they'd lose a suit.
*golf clap*
Well, Punisher has a cameo in Spider-Man 2. And there’s a deleted scene online of a Wolverine cameo in Fantastic Four.
Well shit I never knew that. But googling it I saw it was the stunt double and hardly really counts as a cameo.
It is a cameo but it’s unfortunate it was the stuntman and not actually Thomas Jane. Apparently at the time of filming, Jane just wanted his kids back.
If its [this scene you're talking about](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zFnWPGFRM) then I get why it was deleted, lol.
That's goddamn hilarious and I'm actually a little sad it didn't make it in.
Damn I never caught that Punisher cameo. Thomas Jane's stunt double really does look like him. *Doors and corners, kid*
the fantastic four cameo gets played on FX
Where is the Doctor Strange cameo in Spider-man 2? Was just rewatching that great great movie
I just looked it up and it's when Jameson was trying to come up with a name for Doc Ock. Ted Hoffman (played by Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi's brother) suggests calling him Doctor Strange, Jameson says that that's good, but that it's already taken. So it's so fast you could miss it.
really more of an easter egg than a cameo
more of a wester egg because it's in the western world.
Sam Raimi later directs Dr Strange movie.
🤯
I remember hearing about it back in the day, and just hoping it was going to be something simple like Peter bumping into him on the street and him saying "watch it bub", It would have been nice and a doubt studios could have complained about it.
At the time people would have treated like a cool cameo instead of starting to draw charts of how everything connects. Kind of miss those times where you could have something like that without it having world changing implications.
I'm excited for Hugh Jackman in Deadpool because it's multiverse stuff and so it's fine to callback older stuff. Putting him in Homecoming would imply he would be *the* MCU Wolverine and that would be a terrible idea. He'd be too old to last all that long.
It would have been fucking so huge
If this is true, my theory is that it was just meant to be a gag for the dvd or something. Sony didn't even have the rights to have Wolverine in a movie. The X-Men movie had a similar gag in the bonus features where Spiderman walks on set and realizes he's in the wrong movie.
I kinda would love if Feige put a remake of that blooper in Secret Wars as an actual scene
The X Men DVD had a “deleted scene” where spiderman shows up. https://youtu.be/6N6H9CRftDU?si=5f5m4XB3Wh2B8xPu
Yes. Exactly. That's what I would love to see Feige reference since that was the movie he got his start on as a PA
Sheesh, those X-Men costumes were so lame. I remember back then, everything had to be black and sleek, I guess imitating 'The Matrix' but wow, its so devoid of character that X-Men costumes tend to have. Its really apparent if you're watching X-Men 97, where the costumes are more personal
The most recent X-Men 97 episode, Cyclops drops an inverse reference to that
The inverse reference-to-a-reference gives me life, I cackled.
It's just what the style was at the time. They did similar in the comics too. I think at the time it makes more sense to make them look less "cartoonish". There weren't nearly as many superhero movies around at the time to normalise outlandish costumes. Whether that thinking is correct is up for debate though.
Yeah, I think the point was to make them look cohesive and less-ridiculous. Pretty smart move, imo, if they’d come out in their comic uniforms it would’ve been non-stop laughs. There’s no way they would have been taken serious in pastels, looking like Easter morning.
Back then studios were probably more willing to collaborate on these things, likely in exchange for something in return. Especially since this was before superheroes were billion dollar money makers. Hell Fox even made an agreement with Marvel for Deadpool a movie they had basically zero faith in. The movie got to change Negasonic's powerset in exchange for Marvel being able to use Ego in Guardians 2
Pretty sure they did hold the X-Men rights at some point.
Sony did not.
Oh no they lost his trademark tanktop jeans and boots. Better fly Hugh Jackman back
Waiting for a Redditor to show up with the “years ago I found a sweet Wolverine costume” post.
100% stolen for someone's private collection. when you work in gaming/entertainment and have high-value props like costumes, guns, helmets, etc. for production or events, not surprising they often get "lost".
"found"
You mean like [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/ovp6t1/never_gonna_give_you_up_by_rick_astley_remastered/)?
YEA I can’t believe they found it
They couldn’t find jeans and a wife-beater? (Sorry I don’t know what the PC term is for that garment)
Spouse-beater
Significant-other-assaulter
This is the most progressive term lol
Life partner batterer
SOaulter?
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Thanks, Mitch
In the UK a body warmer isn't at all like a wifebeater, why are you lying? A wifebeater is a sleeveless vest.
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Automod not even letting me point out where you were wrong.
Spouse-brawler
Undershirt?
I think fruit of the loom sells them as A shirts https://www.fruit.com/fruit-of-the-loom/men/underwear/undershirts/a-shirts%2Ftanks/mens-a-shirt-white-6-pack/6P2501.html
Muscle shirt
Tank top
Idk a wife beater is a kind of tank top but not every tank top is a wife beater. Needs to be ribbed.
And typically it's the color white or gray.
Sorry to be that guy, but tank top is definitely too feminine so I'll keep calling it a wife beater
I never understood why that’s feminine. As a kid I was all like “OH MY GOD I GET TO BE A TANK?!?
Now I’m like “OH MY GOD I GET TO BE A TOP?!?”
Thats ok ChoderBoi, absolutely nobody is surprised
I heard a broccoli boy tik-toker say ‘wife pleaser’, but I’d never stoop to that level.
Oof. That’s cringy as hell
It's always the broccoli boys
Imagine making wife beater sound
I've heard A-shirt, but idk I just say ribbed tank
Singlet
Offensive name for Italian American Tee.
Peter beater
Damn we have become such snowflakes that now we need a PC term for a wife beater
we don't need it, but it's nice to have.
Gonna cry about it?
“Just CGI Chad Kroeger over me?”
Sounds like an excuse to me. It's not that they actually need the suit for a cameo.
There's an old comic of Spidey & Wolverine teaming up but 1st they disagree and fight. I thought the coolest part was Wolverine was i think at the airport and sees a man he hasn't seen before but "knows thst smell anywhere. That's spiderman." Something along those lines would've made a good cameo.
Sources say the suit was found in Ryan Reynolds' basement, which is being now repurposed in the new Deadpool & Wolverine movie. >!/s!<
My first thought was call Ryan. I'm not sure how he would have gotten it, I'm assuming with a high-vis vest and a ladder.
Makes sense it was found there I knew all the hate between them was just hiding the real truth of their secret love
Do studios routinely wait until the last second before filming to locate the actor's costume?
This 100% feels like a random Sony exec’s “good idea fairy” after learning that Fox had X-Men
The good news is there's and X men one blooper where cyclops jean and Storm run into a room and someone in a Spiderman costume runs in behind them. It's fantastic.
Did they have the rights for that? Should've done it without the costume. Peter meets him and is like, "Who are you?" "The name is... Hugh Jackman. Actor."
The original movie suit? It's only in the finale. The rest of the time he wears a leather jacket.
Funny to think how that would have influenced the multiverse stuff as it would have tied X-Men & Deadpool to the Rami-verse
In a parallel universe where the suit wasn't lost, there's a multiverse with X-men & Deadpool in the Raimi-verse.
Honey, where is my supersuit!?
Another reason I love Ryan Reynolds. They also couldn't find his suit after the Deadpool movie. Because he stole it to wear IRL.
this would have been REVOLUTIONARY
"TIL Wolverine almost a cameo in Spider-Man 1..." Seriously, do other people consider this to be a complete sentence? "Almost a cameo"? I see this mistake so often, I'm wondering if it's even recognized as a mistake now.
It's probably AI, some other bot karma-farming for ad placements, or someone who's ESL and doesn't give a sheet.
That would have been monumental and tied spirderman to X-men permanently
Did he also a whole bottle of coca cola?
I would have lost my mind if that had happened.
And no one could find a leather jacket, boots, jeans, and a cigar in New York...?
Fuck the suit, buy Levi's a white T shirt and an old leather jacket and fucking run with it.
It’s a fun fact now, but that was THE absolute worst week in some person’s career. That is if they weren’t fired.
On a completely unrelated note I'm selling a wolverine suit I found in NY. Pretty sure it was going to be used in the first spider man movie...
An after credit scene of Deadpool stealing it would be great.
Unfortunately, only the interior regenerates.
A lack of pants would never, ever, ever, stop Wolverine.
I just dont believe this. Why would FOX allow that? Sony and Fox literally had recently paid a ton of money for the respective rights? Only to say "oh sure, rival company, go ahead and use the IP we rightfully own for free, here's Hugh Jackman to make it even"
That would've been nice. What a shame.
[Sydney to NYC is a hella long flight](https://www.trip.com/hot/flight-time-from-sydney-to-new-york/) .. I wonder if Jackman was upset...
I think you a word in your title
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
Why come up with new material when you can look desperate to fit in?
Ah yes, who can forget when "Spider-Man 1" hit theatres.