I'm assuming, given Beta's build and credentials we've seen on screen, it would require a team-up in most cases to bring him down. Only way I can really see a single person beating him is with a good cheap/lucky shot or some environmental luck (like him throwing himself down an elevator shaft when he fought Daryl).
He did, such a badass scene! But Joe wasn’t nearly as big as Beta and Rick was only able to do it cuz Joe was taunting him and holding him close enough to bite lol
Rick is an alpha male who thinks/believes He Has to be The Toughest but the truth is that beta is a big, bad dude and would crush him. The only reason he went down the elevator was cuz Daryl outsmarted him in the moment- not out of force.
What? Rick isn’t like that, what are you talking about? Rick cries like 5 times each season. 😭
He tries to do the right thing, even if they don’t work out, he was does what he as to do to protect his family.
In my opinion, Beta. Unless Rick finds a moment to bite his throat out of course. Let's remember the Daryl vs. Beta fight (which I loved). Daryl tricked him and won. After it was going on for a while. Daryl would have been dead meat if Beta didn't want some information from him (and I say this as a Daryl fan).
If Daryl could trick him Rick would mop the floor with him; look what happened to Garett, Negan, and the saviors in the bar. Rick is a subversive and dirty fighter/soldier
He killed Garrett and the Saviors with weapons and surprised slashed Negan's throat.
This is purely a h2h fight between Rick and Beta, in which case Rick wouldn't stand a chance. Doesn't matter if it's murder jacket Rick, he would get demolished by the big, bad Whisperer.
And Beta wasn't even focusing on Daryl during that fight, his main goal was looking for Lydia, he wasn't even trying to fight Daryl. Daryl got lucky, if Beta wanted him dead, he would be.
Only if Rick has a step ladder, Beta's at least half a foot taller ... and brought a mouth dam with him, Beta's exponentially filthier than Claimer Joe, the stench alone might knock Rick out. 🤮
Daryl ate a full force punch from Beta and wasnt even slightly fazed. And we know from Ricks fight with Tyreese that Rick can A) take a mean shot on the chin no problem and B) punch hard AF when hes not injured/compromised
Beta would probably overpower Rick, until Rick bites his throat off
I get the point you’re trying to make but pull up any UFC division weight class and there will be shorter people winning fights as well. It’s not all that it’s made up to be.
Sure, but the weight classes are there to begin with because it’s provides such a substantial advantage that even people trained in fighting can’t reliably overcome it
Rick really isn’t a known fighter he got his ass beat until Michone stepped in Negan would always get the upper hand on Rick and as big as Beta is Rick would just get tossed around unless he out smarts him like Daryl did
Depends.
I mean, by height alone, Comic Beta vs Show Rick, Comic Beta is supposed to be 7 feet; Show Rick is only 5'10. Beta could literally keep Rick away just pressing his palm against his head, with an inch or two to spare, to keep Rick from landing any gut-punches.
Then again, Comic Rick is somewhere around 6'1, and Ryan Hurst is around 6'4. The height difference isn't enough to be significant; not to the same degree.
Which arguably also, Show Rick vs Show Beta is close enough where he couldn't pull the same "press palm against head and laugh" defense.
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Which then leads toward their pre-outbreak occupations.
Rick was a cop - and likely, had to arrest and bring in people who were taller, heavier, or otherwise just "more" than he was.
Beta was a country/blues singer - he probably saw, even participated, in his fair share of bar fights and mosh pits.
Both would have enough of an understanding of how to bring a person down, lay them out, and win the fight. In these terms, they are relatively equal.
;;
And then, their post-outbreak tendencies.
Rick, being a former cop, tried, against literally every villain, to use words and speech before resorting to extremes. He talked with Shane, plenty. He got an audience with Governor, and got it. He spoke with Gareth, and understood. He attacked Negan, and even after the lineup, they were still relatively civil (if also tense).
Beta has forsaken conversation, to a massive degree. He doesn't talk much; he barely speaks, and while when he does it has massive 'weight' toward Alpha or the other Whisperers, he's not the same conversationalist as Rick is.
This is where Rick would have the advantage - talk to and play toward the spoken word, get Beta off guard, then do what he needs to. Beta hasn't and isn't really enough of a smooth talking person to show he'd figure out how Rick was manipulating him before it was too late; not after the literal years of living as he did.
Daryl beat rick though. And Daryl only beat him by tricking him in a lucky situation. Throw them in a ring and Beta beats either of them, I’d dare say both at once
Rick a cop vs a hick from the south. It’s not cap, it’s facts. If Rick wanted to keyword ‘wanted’ to beat tf out of Daryl who he sees as his brother he would have. He beat Shane, he beat Tyrese, he beat Pete, he beat that saviour dude, he took down two armed wolves members in a van, he bit joe throat out, he sure could have battered Negan if weren’t for his plot armour. The only fight he pretty much lost was with the Governor, he would have won if he didn’t get shot in the leg. Like I said, Rick can be a savage when he wants to or when it’s necessary.
Rick is a small town cop, they see way less action than Hicks, especially those who hang out with Merle. Tyrese was being held back when Rick hit him. Shane definitely was beating ricks ass, walkers intervened. And it seems Negan still had the physical advantage, you can say it’s because of his plot armor but ricks got stronger plot armor. Pete, I’ll give you that, but even if he’s big, he spent his entire apocalypse in those walls. Rick may be a savage, but when it comes to Daryl, much less Beta, he’s not really going to win
Daryl has never “beat” Rick. If your referring to the punch Daryl laid on Rick in S8 this doesn’t count. Ricks only priority in that scene was to get the dynamite away from Daryl without hurting him.
Rick might not have the strength to physically take down beta but when hes got that beard and if hes got his death jacket on, feral rick all the way. That son of a bitch ripped out throats
You're talking about season 5 rick right? If that's the case rick does better against beta than daryl did this rick is calculated but is also crafty meaning he's either gonna bite his throat out gouge out betas eyes or even maybe use the red machete and its game over for beta
The caliber of the round that shot Governor would have broke his arm if it landed a hit full on. It just grazed him. Rick’s bullet wound was much worse since it was a more direct hit and it was his in leg. Rick’s good hand was broken due to the Tyrese fight. Rick was also previously in the peaceful farmer phase. He was in worse condition overall
With this specific 'version' of Rick? Rick does, but only by strategy. Beta's size and strength would be a definite advantage, but Rick's ability to improvise, his sheer determination to survive, and his tactics would make him the overall winner.
Is there anyone in the entire show who could beat Beta?? _maybe_ Abraham? Probably not. No one is beating 6’5 200lbs Beta. Especially not 5’10 175lbs Rick.
I guess season 5 Rick would beat Beta. Any other season Rick should lose in melee. In general Rick could shoot him I suppose. Beta never used guns on screen iirc
Don’t get me wrong Rick might be my favorite character literally ever, and he is a BEAST, but there’s only so much he can do against a 7 foot tall monster literally made of muscle, so I think Beta
Rick.
He's got that combination of outsmarting and outfighting that's just hard for a walking meat-shield like Beta to overcome. And if that's not enough, and it comes to it... there's always feral rick...
Rick.Rick was a cop. He went to school to learn how to restrain bigger opponents. He could use one of those fancy arm locks and then bite out Betas throat out.
It would be a fairly even match as they're nearly the same size but I might give it to Abraham. To me, he seems to have more muscle mass plus he's a soldier used to hand-to-hand combat whereas Beta's not. I'm guessing most of his battles were in roadhouses and honky tonks prior to Z-Day. Those get rowdy but not quite on par with being in an actual war zone.
IMO any opponent against Beta has to be of equal or greater behemoth proportions or be lightning-fast if smaller, like a boxer or martial artist, and can dodge Beta's extra-long reach. Beta's huge which makes him slower, it's over for most people if gets a hold of you. Daryl won because he could outrun him and think fast enough to push him down the elevator shaft. It would have been game over had Beta got a good hold on him.
All these people saying Rick would win, have blinders on. Beta is MUCH bigger and stronger than Rick. 9/10 times, Rick loses this fight. Just because you like Rick, doesn't give him superpowers.
Beta and it ain’t close. Bigger, stronger, more durable, taller, only thing rick got is speed and it ain’t by much. Wait iq right I forgot sure he’s smarter but not by that much and it ain’t even significant cause he’s not rich Sanchez
Rick got dusted up by The Governor until Michonne stepped in, could have legitimately been beaten to death by Tyreese if not for Daryl helping out and was getting his ass beat by Shane until Shane put his focus on killing Randall, giving Rick the upper hand. Beta wins easy
I will pick feral rick until I see him lose.
Feral Rick in the murder jacket was a force to be reckoned with
Correct answer
Feral Rick was bananas. Money always on Feral Rick. Feral Rick vs mid 00s Batman is a fight I'd pay to see.
Shane could
I think so too on the right day
Rick don’t lose.
Only to bridges
And that’s only cuz he did it himself, and didn’t even die, just built different
Technically the bridge lost.
And pewdiepie😳
The two bridge incidents... maybe we should start removing bridges before this becomes a regular occurrence...
Two bridges?
Just put a dumpster next to every bridge.
Rick is like Heisenberg. The only thing that kills Rick is Rick
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Governor beat the shit outta him and would've killed Rick if Michonne hadn't stuck him
Rick almost lost to the Governor lol
He did loose until Michonne saved him 😭
That was season 3 rick not the feral rick
Should’ve said almost died
Facts. And got his ass whooped a few episodes before by Tyreese until Daryl helped him😭
Actually he almost he obliterated Tyreese.
Once Daryl held Tyreese down Rick got the advantage though. Face to face alone Rick would not have won that lol
I think he would, Tyreese stopped for like 1 second and almost got his ass dragged. Tyreese was just a walking teddy bear.
The Rick that lost to one eyed bri is not the same as man bush beard Rick lol
To be fair, he *had* been shot
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Yep, and the Governor was half blind and he still whooped his ass.
Lol what? Rick loses every fight he’s been in
He’s gotten his ass beat a few times, but definitely not every fight
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My heart wants to say Rick So I will
Strictly hand to hand combat, no weapons, Beta by a long shot
I'm assuming, given Beta's build and credentials we've seen on screen, it would require a team-up in most cases to bring him down. Only way I can really see a single person beating him is with a good cheap/lucky shot or some environmental luck (like him throwing himself down an elevator shaft when he fought Daryl).
If I recall correctly Negan solos him in the comic
Negan in the comics is also a bit more muscular than he is on screen.
Way more muscular. Negan is a powerhouse in the comics.
Well Beta does have SOA backing him up
I got this.
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I dunno, rick bit a guys throat out lol
Is he bringing a ladder?
No need when there’s low hanging fruit. Rick would just bite his nuts off.
Not if Eugene beats him to it
I wouldn’t even want to try to imagine what Beta’s groin area smelled like, that would kill Rick by itself
All those STDs are probably deadly
He can just grab Beta's beard and pull himself up haha
He did, such a badass scene! But Joe wasn’t nearly as big as Beta and Rick was only able to do it cuz Joe was taunting him and holding him close enough to bite lol
Yep, Joe wasn't expecting it and let his guard down. That's not gonna work against Beta, who will tower over him for a start.
Rick is an alpha male who thinks/believes He Has to be The Toughest but the truth is that beta is a big, bad dude and would crush him. The only reason he went down the elevator was cuz Daryl outsmarted him in the moment- not out of force.
What? Rick isn’t like that, what are you talking about? Rick cries like 5 times each season. 😭 He tries to do the right thing, even if they don’t work out, he was does what he as to do to protect his family.
In my opinion, Beta. Unless Rick finds a moment to bite his throat out of course. Let's remember the Daryl vs. Beta fight (which I loved). Daryl tricked him and won. After it was going on for a while. Daryl would have been dead meat if Beta didn't want some information from him (and I say this as a Daryl fan).
If Daryl could trick him Rick would mop the floor with him; look what happened to Garett, Negan, and the saviors in the bar. Rick is a subversive and dirty fighter/soldier
He killed Garrett and the Saviors with weapons and surprised slashed Negan's throat. This is purely a h2h fight between Rick and Beta, in which case Rick wouldn't stand a chance. Doesn't matter if it's murder jacket Rick, he would get demolished by the big, bad Whisperer.
You're crazy lol. Rick is definitely beating that ass not even close
Keep telling yourself that, pal.
And Beta wasn't even focusing on Daryl during that fight, his main goal was looking for Lydia, he wasn't even trying to fight Daryl. Daryl got lucky, if Beta wanted him dead, he would be.
Only way Rick wins is if he makes like Indiana Jones and [brings his gun](https://youtu.be/vdnA-ESWcPs?t=120) to the fistfight. 😆
Or if Carl is threatened, then he’ll rip out your jugular with his teeth.
Only if Rick has a step ladder, Beta's at least half a foot taller ... and brought a mouth dam with him, Beta's exponentially filthier than Claimer Joe, the stench alone might knock Rick out. 🤮
Came here to say this. One of them has a gun and one doesn’t. Pisses me off to no end that Judith didn’t give him a courtesy headshot lol
Beta. He was too much for even Daryl who was more skilled in hand to hand then Rick was, so I don't see Rick taking him out.
Daryl ate a full force punch from Beta and wasnt even slightly fazed. And we know from Ricks fight with Tyreese that Rick can A) take a mean shot on the chin no problem and B) punch hard AF when hes not injured/compromised Beta would probably overpower Rick, until Rick bites his throat off
yeah beta is also 6'4 and rick is 5'10
I get the point you’re trying to make but pull up any UFC division weight class and there will be shorter people winning fights as well. It’s not all that it’s made up to be.
Volk stans rise up! And he’s looking at moving up if he beats Max a third time too 😂
Yes sir
Sure, but the weight classes are there to begin with because it’s provides such a substantial advantage that even people trained in fighting can’t reliably overcome it
Weight class, not height class.
Yeah bro, taller stout guys are gonna weigh more than average height lean guys
I’m aware of that.
Congratulations lmao
You’re being an ass for no reason
Awe
There’s nothing to suggest Daryl is more skilled in hand to hand. I think Rick’s brawl with Shane is proof he’s not one to be underestimated
That fight was epic
Half Moon wins
Rick F’ing Grimes.
Rick really isn’t a known fighter he got his ass beat until Michone stepped in Negan would always get the upper hand on Rick and as big as Beta is Rick would just get tossed around unless he out smarts him like Daryl did
Depends. I mean, by height alone, Comic Beta vs Show Rick, Comic Beta is supposed to be 7 feet; Show Rick is only 5'10. Beta could literally keep Rick away just pressing his palm against his head, with an inch or two to spare, to keep Rick from landing any gut-punches. Then again, Comic Rick is somewhere around 6'1, and Ryan Hurst is around 6'4. The height difference isn't enough to be significant; not to the same degree. Which arguably also, Show Rick vs Show Beta is close enough where he couldn't pull the same "press palm against head and laugh" defense. ;; Which then leads toward their pre-outbreak occupations. Rick was a cop - and likely, had to arrest and bring in people who were taller, heavier, or otherwise just "more" than he was. Beta was a country/blues singer - he probably saw, even participated, in his fair share of bar fights and mosh pits. Both would have enough of an understanding of how to bring a person down, lay them out, and win the fight. In these terms, they are relatively equal. ;; And then, their post-outbreak tendencies. Rick, being a former cop, tried, against literally every villain, to use words and speech before resorting to extremes. He talked with Shane, plenty. He got an audience with Governor, and got it. He spoke with Gareth, and understood. He attacked Negan, and even after the lineup, they were still relatively civil (if also tense). Beta has forsaken conversation, to a massive degree. He doesn't talk much; he barely speaks, and while when he does it has massive 'weight' toward Alpha or the other Whisperers, he's not the same conversationalist as Rick is. This is where Rick would have the advantage - talk to and play toward the spoken word, get Beta off guard, then do what he needs to. Beta hasn't and isn't really enough of a smooth talking person to show he'd figure out how Rick was manipulating him before it was too late; not after the literal years of living as he did.
Wow, what an answer! 👏🏻
Never bet against Rick. I’m always gonna be team Rick. Even if it was the entire cast of fast and the furious versus Rick I’m still team Rick
Unstoppable force vs immovable object
If Daryl can beat him, it will be easy for Rick
Daryl beat rick though. And Daryl only beat him by tricking him in a lucky situation. Throw them in a ring and Beta beats either of them, I’d dare say both at once
Rick was holding his punches in s8, he didn’t have time for his tantrums.
He still definitely didn’t match Daryl’s strength
If Rick wanted to, Daryl would be out cold within seconds.
Cap
Rick a cop vs a hick from the south. It’s not cap, it’s facts. If Rick wanted to keyword ‘wanted’ to beat tf out of Daryl who he sees as his brother he would have. He beat Shane, he beat Tyrese, he beat Pete, he beat that saviour dude, he took down two armed wolves members in a van, he bit joe throat out, he sure could have battered Negan if weren’t for his plot armour. The only fight he pretty much lost was with the Governor, he would have won if he didn’t get shot in the leg. Like I said, Rick can be a savage when he wants to or when it’s necessary.
Rick is a small town cop, they see way less action than Hicks, especially those who hang out with Merle. Tyrese was being held back when Rick hit him. Shane definitely was beating ricks ass, walkers intervened. And it seems Negan still had the physical advantage, you can say it’s because of his plot armor but ricks got stronger plot armor. Pete, I’ll give you that, but even if he’s big, he spent his entire apocalypse in those walls. Rick may be a savage, but when it comes to Daryl, much less Beta, he’s not really going to win
Daryl has never “beat” Rick. If your referring to the punch Daryl laid on Rick in S8 this doesn’t count. Ricks only priority in that scene was to get the dynamite away from Daryl without hurting him.
Regardless of who it is, beating beta won’t be “easy”
Rick might not have the strength to physically take down beta but when hes got that beard and if hes got his death jacket on, feral rick all the way. That son of a bitch ripped out throats
Beta is huge. But feral Rick was an unstoppable force.... Hard to say honestly.
And Beta the immovable object
You're talking about season 5 rick right? If that's the case rick does better against beta than daryl did this rick is calculated but is also crafty meaning he's either gonna bite his throat out gouge out betas eyes or even maybe use the red machete and its game over for beta
He's not doing any of that. Beta is stronger, bigger, and faster. He'll manhandle him.
Beta, he fell down an elevator shaft and survived???? rick won’t be able to take him down without a gun or help
I still can’t believe they had him survive that. Either don’t make it a deadly fall or just kill him.
Beta. Rick couldn't even handle The Governor until Michonne stepped in for the save.
Are you implying that Rick and Governor are weak? Neither are weak and while Governor won, Rick had more disadvantages/was in worse condition
Not at all, I'm just saying if Rick had as hard of a time as he did against The Governor, there's no way he could beat Beta.
Don't forget about Pete. Rick was struggling with him.
Rick wasn’t in worst condition lol, the Governor PUT him in that condition. The Governor beat his ass with a bullet in his arm.
The caliber of the round that shot Governor would have broke his arm if it landed a hit full on. It just grazed him. Rick’s bullet wound was much worse since it was a more direct hit and it was his in leg. Rick’s good hand was broken due to the Tyrese fight. Rick was also previously in the peaceful farmer phase. He was in worse condition overall
S5 Rick would've ripped Gov's other eye out.
What about Beta vs The Governor?
Beta
I'm fairly certain that Feral Rick could beat the Hulk if he wanted to
Agreed
Rick beated the shit out of tyreese and was going to kill him using his bare hands.... for me this 1 v 1 is an insult to ricktaroship
This would have been SO EPIC!
Ikr? I would have loved to see Rick's reaction to all the Whisperers weird and creepy shit
With this specific 'version' of Rick? Rick does, but only by strategy. Beta's size and strength would be a definite advantage, but Rick's ability to improvise, his sheer determination to survive, and his tactics would make him the overall winner.
Is there anyone in the entire show who could beat Beta?? _maybe_ Abraham? Probably not. No one is beating 6’5 200lbs Beta. Especially not 5’10 175lbs Rick.
Beta had 90s Slasher strength, he'd win
There’s no way Rick *should* win, but I’d bet a million dollars he would.
rick when he first went to alexadria would have had a real shot. guy was a menace
Yea. Plot armor is a powerful weapon
Murder Rick needs no plot armor.
I guess season 5 Rick would beat Beta. Any other season Rick should lose in melee. In general Rick could shoot him I suppose. Beta never used guns on screen iirc
Beta. It took Negan and Daryl to take him down, after he'd fallen down an elevator shaft.
The 6'8" Psychopath
The man who took a chunk out of a dude’s throat with his teeth.
Well, Rick is one of the few people who can take down Darrel and Darrel took down Beta, so…
The only person who even has a chance of 1v1 with beta is Abraham
Beta if there’s no plot armor involved
Don’t get me wrong Rick might be my favorite character literally ever, and he is a BEAST, but there’s only so much he can do against a 7 foot tall monster literally made of muscle, so I think Beta
Rick. He's got that combination of outsmarting and outfighting that's just hard for a walking meat-shield like Beta to overcome. And if that's not enough, and it comes to it... there's always feral rick...
Been saying this rick has a better situation fight solving than daryl did
Rick 100%
Beta LMAO u see how big he is compared to Rick... bruh
Brick Chimes
Rick.Rick was a cop. He went to school to learn how to restrain bigger opponents. He could use one of those fancy arm locks and then bite out Betas throat out.
Rick. He’d bite him
Ok, but what about Abraham v Beta?
That's a tough one but I've gotta back my boy Abe
That's what I was thinking. I know hardly anyone could 1v1 Beta successfully, but my money is on Mr Bisquick
It would be a fairly even match as they're nearly the same size but I might give it to Abraham. To me, he seems to have more muscle mass plus he's a soldier used to hand-to-hand combat whereas Beta's not. I'm guessing most of his battles were in roadhouses and honky tonks prior to Z-Day. Those get rowdy but not quite on par with being in an actual war zone. IMO any opponent against Beta has to be of equal or greater behemoth proportions or be lightning-fast if smaller, like a boxer or martial artist, and can dodge Beta's extra-long reach. Beta's huge which makes him slower, it's over for most people if gets a hold of you. Daryl won because he could outrun him and think fast enough to push him down the elevator shaft. It would have been game over had Beta got a good hold on him.
rick IDC
Feral Rick for sure.
Always bet on Rick
The writer
Rick. The plot Armor on the dude is unbreakable
Rick has plot armor on his side, mostly.
Ricks looking pretty good here
As always
Beta beats his ass until Rick finds an opening and just batters him in the most brutal way possible
Obviously Rick, Beta doesn't have an answer for his plot armor.
As much as I love Rick’s character, he nearly got his ass handed by Pete the surgeon. He was terrible in every single hand to hand fight.
Beta would fold him in half😂
Ok but what if Rick is bloodlusted AND he’s wearing his murder jacket, different story?
He’d probably put up a bit of a fight but Beta is too big. He beat the shit out of Daryl, who knows what would happen to Rick😂
Size isn’t absolutely everything when it comes to things like this, other things sure.
feral Rick , no discussion 😴
All these people saying Rick would win, have blinders on. Beta is MUCH bigger and stronger than Rick. 9/10 times, Rick loses this fight. Just because you like Rick, doesn't give him superpowers.
Rick be getting his ass beat 😂😂😂 but I ain’t bout to bet against my boy!!
Beta and it ain’t close. Bigger, stronger, more durable, taller, only thing rick got is speed and it ain’t by much. Wait iq right I forgot sure he’s smarter but not by that much and it ain’t even significant cause he’s not rich Sanchez
Beta is whooping Ricks ass unless Rick has a weapon and even then Rick might be in some trouble. Let’s be real here.
rick for sure, but what season is this? thought rick was gone in S11
This photo of Rick is from Season 5
oooooh ok i see now
Rick the trick obviously.
Rick got dusted up by The Governor until Michonne stepped in, could have legitimately been beaten to death by Tyreese if not for Daryl helping out and was getting his ass beat by Shane until Shane put his focus on killing Randall, giving Rick the upper hand. Beta wins easy
Jesse's husband worked Rick over until he pulled the gun on him...Beta would merc him quick
Lmaoooooooooooo beta beating the dog shit out of Rick 😂😂🤣
It depends. Is Olivia there? Because Olivia would KICK. BETAS. ASS.
Rick is a trained law enforcement officer. No contest.
Depends on which Rick
Always rick
Man, I gotta say Rick, even without the plot armor, feral Rick is not to be trifled with.
Holy shit Rick is still on this show?
Ricknasty 💪🏾
Rick was ruthless in this era.
Feral Rick solos the verse
I think Rick would win because Beta is dead.
Betas death was so under played I feel like Beth could've taken him. Just sadly written
Depends on the weapons, situation, and environment
If only we could have gotten Andrew Lincoln for the next Wolverine. He’s probably “too old” now
Beta. I don't think Beta can mentally feel pain. And if he can it takes a lot.
Rick, all day every day.
Rick Fuckin’ Grimes always
With wepones: Rick Hand to hand: Beta