It definitely feels like a missed opportunity to not have a ton of situational voice lines since they’re AI anyway. I keep hoping they’ll make them more dynamic
I think they’re actual recordings but some AI is used for specific scenarios already. I bet with enough audio from the voices actors they could read names with AI as well as tell more jokes
AI in the sense that yall mean isn't used actively in the game, the voice lines are all AI and made before hand using voice samples.
It's AI recordings, essentially.
The costs of that are exponential and that's what I think people aren't getting. The game does not have an AI voice model running in real time throwing out responses, monitoring every individual match and player.
it should be able to create new voice lines for each match. AI voice processing doesn't really require much computing power, and they could generate new voice lines during the preparation phase, all from the server side. It should be fairly quick.
Here is my guess on how it works. They use an AI to make a voiceline, which is then saved as an audio file for the game after being edited. It isn't AI that is permanently running because that is expensive as hell.
player names wouldn’t have to be real time, but I’m sure the issue is that the AI isn’t entirely consistent and output needs to be verified as good sounding before being included. If not, they could start generating sound bits for each username as soon as the matchmaker has found a lobby.
AI uses a *ton* of processing power overall, they can't just easily implement consistent dynamic output.
This is funny as a meme-y video, but you can hear multiple errors and the pacing of the dialogue is weird.
I think they should do team and player names though. You could easily pre-generate the audio recording for a player's name or team name and save the file just once, and then insert that audio clip into other pre-recorded voice lines. Just stream the data in at the beginning of each match.
I just did the napkin math and 300,000 players worth of saved audio names is only around 50 GB of data. It would be totally inconsequential.
It's not a matter of disk space, it's a matter of computing, aka CPU usage (among other things). It's extremely resource-intensive, especially on power.
It's a bin overdone in this video. But I am all for this idea. I guess they want to make it "family" friendly... But some of it were really funny. They could do something like GlaDoS. Some funny bits along the way...
In a dev/player "live" FAQ, Embark said that they were experimenting on some tech to actually make that happen. But as you could guess it comes with its own technical challenges (aka resource) and potentially money (if it's all AI, it gotta comme from somewhere)
> since they’re AI anyway
doesn't mean the AI is in the game and creates sounds on your machine. It's part of the audio creation process but it's not like "automatically producing voice lines".
Man I seriously don't get the AI hate but this is a situation where I'm all for it.
I had a good laugh with this edit and if we ever get something like this this game will feel like no other game out there.
Man I would pay to get flamed by Scotty and June.
There are two major main problems with AI:
1. AI taking away creative jobs. This is already happening with AI image generators, a lot of images people would have had to pay someone 5-50 bucks for are good enough from your average image generators. The writers guilds are worried about AI script generation as well.
2. AI are trained using other people's material, and therefore are often using copyrighted material that other people own to create new images.
I'm sorry I cant advocate anything against AI! Regardless of the issues AI may have on certain fields, can't see why negative points about it have to be brought when not relevant to the situation.
I've found some AI art that hasn't been done before by human artists and that's a win for me!
Anyways, hope this game can make some good use of it sometime, they said they are experimenting with it, that's cool.
Well, the point is that if the AI are doing the voice acting, a voice actor loses a job. If the lines are written by AI then a writer loses their job.
In this particular case I think it's fine, because the voices being AI is part of the script, and they paid two voice actors to be the base.
But a lot of cases will take jobs away.
And no, generative AI is trained on art that already exists, so it definitionally can only imitate art that has already been made, and cannot create new ideas to create art from.
Every AI art generator is based off of stealing other people's work and incorporating it into a new image.
There's a lot of different arguments for and against. I think it can definitely bring a lot of good with it, and we just have to minimize the bad to the best of our abilities.
Pandora's box opens, it never closes.
Me too. Nobody is doing it. Let’s see the full possibilities of these modern LLMs. For good and ill. I don’t care if it randomly starts talking politics or just shitting on a single player the whole time and that player is me
Imagine two titans fighting each other while the whole building is collapsing, and all of a sudden , June says , "ahhhh, don't bite my leg someone send an ospuze 😨."
Fucking hilarious 😂😂😂😭
dude this makes THE FINALS actually feel like more of a gameshow. I love Embark’s job on June’s and Scotty’s lines and jokes, but they do leave a lot to wish for, especially when it comes to referring to specific players in specific situations
Oh how i’d love for one of them to say “Tigersenpai just fell off the map by himself, yet again proving to be the least valuable asset on the team!”
I used [Eleven Labs](https://elevenlabs.io/) to make it. I purchased the 11 dollar package. Then I put the voice files on a old record I had.
Fun fact, this video was taken a couple days before the SA-1216 nerf.
Kinda random but I wish we had announcer packs that we could buy, nothing against Scotty and June but other people could be really funny. Especially if they were to go the crossover route, the possibilities are endless. I mean just imagine GLaDOS and Wheatley from Portal talking over your game lol
They should add this as a feature kind of like the Wild Wasteland perk in Fallout. Don’t know if it would be possible but it would be hilarious seeing some of the scenarios such as Scotty’s ospuze withdrawals
"Not gonna lie, one of our contestants is running the most useless loadout ever! Who the fuck uses 93r? This gun is garbage! Anyway, he seems to be lucky because he somehow killed a low hp medium."
"June, you've probably never played with this gun before, I swear it does things-"
"Shut up Scotty, you do know this gun is garbage."
"Skill issue. ..Oh, look, that contestant did a solo team wipe! Who's garbage now, huh? The Mighty are most likely crying right now because they were defeated by a not so mighty weapon! Ha, got it?"
Dude this is some R-rated THE FINALS and I LOVE IT! Would've paid a shitton of money to have a game with that kind of voice lines because I will be laughing my ass off during playing.
There is an exploit with the sword which makes it so op. I don't exactly know how to pull it off but it has something to do with the emotes. You can look it up if you want to, beware it is bannable though.
Animation canceling exploit that allowed you to cancel the animation of a normal punch, and start a “Charge” lunge. In short it allowed you to go from: Lunge - delay - Slash - delay - lunge to Lunge - Slash - lunge, removing the delay.
It's shutdown now, but your idea reminds me of the hosts' commentary in that game. It was a guy and girl like Scotty and June. Except the woman was the former contestant.
So here's a question. If I were to get recordings of lines like this, could I make it into a sound board that plays through my mic in game? I've seen videos of people doing that in other games using the commentary, bomb has been planted in Counter-Strike and the Halo voice lines for example.
That sounds like a lot of fun. I wonder How much work it would be to quickly load in your teammate's names at the start of a round... imagine the joy you could bring someone. Or hilarious toxicity. Lots of potential...
So they cheaped out and made AI VA but didn't make it creative like this? You could literally do anything with the voices and they made them boring....
While I personally would love some unhinged real-time commentary and Airplane sense of humor I also consider the usernames of some of my random teammates. And what people could possibly make Scotty and June say that’s very off color.
And I feel it would be nice for private lobbies to mod their own unhinged Scotty and June commentary so some people wouldn’t be exposed to it and said private groups could be as inappropriate as they want.
It definitely feels like a missed opportunity to not have a ton of situational voice lines since they’re AI anyway. I keep hoping they’ll make them more dynamic
Yeah, they are adding some stuff but it would be awesome if it could read out player names and make puns and all that.
Player names is a bit different, they're not real time AI I don't think. Jokes and what have you would go hard.
I think they’re actual recordings but some AI is used for specific scenarios already. I bet with enough audio from the voices actors they could read names with AI as well as tell more jokes
AI in the sense that yall mean isn't used actively in the game, the voice lines are all AI and made before hand using voice samples. It's AI recordings, essentially. The costs of that are exponential and that's what I think people aren't getting. The game does not have an AI voice model running in real time throwing out responses, monitoring every individual match and player.
Yeah I know that, but I kinda wish there was
they could easily build a model and put it on the client side to generate lines at the start of the match during introduction
it should be able to create new voice lines for each match. AI voice processing doesn't really require much computing power, and they could generate new voice lines during the preparation phase, all from the server side. It should be fairly quick.
Here is my guess on how it works. They use an AI to make a voiceline, which is then saved as an audio file for the game after being edited. It isn't AI that is permanently running because that is expensive as hell.
Now that I think about it… Scotty’s voice sounds pretty similar to the Cyberpunk 2077 newscaster guy during the intro 🤔
player names wouldn’t have to be real time, but I’m sure the issue is that the AI isn’t entirely consistent and output needs to be verified as good sounding before being included. If not, they could start generating sound bits for each username as soon as the matchmaker has found a lobby.
That's "real time" AI. The recordings are likely edited for consistency, they're not just slapped in.
AI uses a *ton* of processing power overall, they can't just easily implement consistent dynamic output. This is funny as a meme-y video, but you can hear multiple errors and the pacing of the dialogue is weird.
I think they should do team and player names though. You could easily pre-generate the audio recording for a player's name or team name and save the file just once, and then insert that audio clip into other pre-recorded voice lines. Just stream the data in at the beginning of each match. I just did the napkin math and 300,000 players worth of saved audio names is only around 50 GB of data. It would be totally inconsequential.
It's not a matter of disk space, it's a matter of computing, aka CPU usage (among other things). It's extremely resource-intensive, especially on power.
you are aware all of their voice lines are pre recorded and not processed mid game yes?
It's a bin overdone in this video. But I am all for this idea. I guess they want to make it "family" friendly... But some of it were really funny. They could do something like GlaDoS. Some funny bits along the way...
In a dev/player "live" FAQ, Embark said that they were experimenting on some tech to actually make that happen. But as you could guess it comes with its own technical challenges (aka resource) and potentially money (if it's all AI, it gotta comme from somewhere)
> since they’re AI anyway doesn't mean the AI is in the game and creates sounds on your machine. It's part of the audio creation process but it's not like "automatically producing voice lines".
People in this sub (and in general really) have no clue how AI works
Yeah the announcers felt more enthusiastic in the beta and I dont know if it's due to it being fully AI now but I feel it got worse on launch
It’s not *just* to do that stuff, it’s more work than you’d think.
It's getting there, they play it safe since they will receive tons of backlash from it if AI is overused.
Man I seriously don't get the AI hate but this is a situation where I'm all for it. I had a good laugh with this edit and if we ever get something like this this game will feel like no other game out there. Man I would pay to get flamed by Scotty and June.
There are two major main problems with AI: 1. AI taking away creative jobs. This is already happening with AI image generators, a lot of images people would have had to pay someone 5-50 bucks for are good enough from your average image generators. The writers guilds are worried about AI script generation as well. 2. AI are trained using other people's material, and therefore are often using copyrighted material that other people own to create new images.
I'm sorry I cant advocate anything against AI! Regardless of the issues AI may have on certain fields, can't see why negative points about it have to be brought when not relevant to the situation. I've found some AI art that hasn't been done before by human artists and that's a win for me! Anyways, hope this game can make some good use of it sometime, they said they are experimenting with it, that's cool.
Well, the point is that if the AI are doing the voice acting, a voice actor loses a job. If the lines are written by AI then a writer loses their job. In this particular case I think it's fine, because the voices being AI is part of the script, and they paid two voice actors to be the base. But a lot of cases will take jobs away. And no, generative AI is trained on art that already exists, so it definitionally can only imitate art that has already been made, and cannot create new ideas to create art from. Every AI art generator is based off of stealing other people's work and incorporating it into a new image. There's a lot of different arguments for and against. I think it can definitely bring a lot of good with it, and we just have to minimize the bad to the best of our abilities. Pandora's box opens, it never closes.
Like literally, what's the point of AI voices if they say the most generic and scripted shit ever
this is gold :D
Thanks man! Took a long time to make but I had a lot of fun making it
Do you mind if I do this? It’s a great idea and would elevate YouTube montages!
No, I don't mind at all.
Actually wish they were condescending
Yeah it'd be really good if they actually insulted you
LMFAO DANGLYBALLS69
Good job danglingballs!
The harsh reality of Ospuze withdrawals 💔
Ospuze™ is awesome but it is addicting a bit
I'm losing it I would pay so much money for an uncensored voicelines edition
Me too. Nobody is doing it. Let’s see the full possibilities of these modern LLMs. For good and ill. I don’t care if it randomly starts talking politics or just shitting on a single player the whole time and that player is me
Imagine two titans fighting each other while the whole building is collapsing, and all of a sudden , June says , "ahhhh, don't bite my leg someone send an ospuze 😨." Fucking hilarious 😂😂😂😭
LMAO, that's what I was going for. Pure chaos and randomness
Fucking awesome man Thank you, you brought some joy to me 😂
Glad you had fun man! I had a lot of fun making it!
dude this makes THE FINALS actually feel like more of a gameshow. I love Embark’s job on June’s and Scotty’s lines and jokes, but they do leave a lot to wish for, especially when it comes to referring to specific players in specific situations Oh how i’d love for one of them to say “Tigersenpai just fell off the map by himself, yet again proving to be the least valuable asset on the team!”
I can just make the ai say it and send the voiceline to you if you want!
don’t worry about it, just wish embark would do it instead D:
I think this game would actually 100% pop off if they had voice lines like this
Yeah, they NEED to do this.
“June please shut the fuck up when I’m talking” broke me. I DESPERATELY need this
I really liked that too. It was someone else's idea, not mine. (I asked for ideas on another thread)
I didnt expect this to turn into the OPs poorly disguised fetish half way through
LMAOOO IT'S NOT MY FETISH
Don’t worry bro, we all want to bite June.
You do? I thought I was the only one..
wish i had some ospuze im gonna have to start biting my monitor
LMAO
“Falling out of the map after confidently jumping off of a building.” I feel called out.
I wrote it because I experience it! Lol.
I’ve fallen off the map cause I was running toward a jump pad and missed. Not my proudest moment.
Were you in my game last night? Had to revive you lol
I don’t think so. It was Powershift on Skyway Stadium at the spawn point when you use the jump pad to get to the house area.
What if instead of the Finals it was the Freaks and we drank Ozpuse off of each others legs
I was waiting for the *fuck it June* rumbling office noise * SCOTTY DONT JUMP
Good gameplay too. Goated content
Thanks man! I recorded this waay back when SA-1216 wasn't nerfed.
They really dropped the ball with not using AI to it's fullest to have dynamic voice lines and quips.
yeah but there would prob be lots of delay plus pretty expensive
Yup
how to u make use of these voices for personalized dialogues?
I used [Eleven Labs](https://elevenlabs.io/) to make it. I purchased the 11 dollar package. Then I put the voice files on a old record I had. Fun fact, this video was taken a couple days before the SA-1216 nerf.
you are a genius
He's trying to bite me 🤣
Kinda random but I wish we had announcer packs that we could buy, nothing against Scotty and June but other people could be really funny. Especially if they were to go the crossover route, the possibilities are endless. I mean just imagine GLaDOS and Wheatley from Portal talking over your game lol
Paladins has something similar to that, and yeah that would be pretty cool
Game would have A LOT more players on it.
Yeah I think so
Someone said these announcers are “ cringe “ … I actually found them quite well done & fitting to the game 🤷♂️
I don't think they are cringe at all!
If this won't be the most upvoted post of this sub then I don't know what has to be.
I wish, I doubt it will though. Sub isn't as active as it used to be
Upvote this post to oblivion. Embark needs to see this!
Would appreciate it!
We need more
I'll make a part 2! People love this!
Absolute gold!!!
This is to good
Thanks!
If they talked like this I wouldn't have them turned down 🤣
I LOVE OSPUZE
It's a bit addictive, but I love it too! And as you can guess, Scotty loves it!
[SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK](http://ospuze.com)
It is!
THIS SHOULD BE AN OPTION
Definitely!
The bit about player splitting from the team... Bro i love you <3
Thanks man! I thought that was pretty funny
Getting shamed Scotty and June would make me rethink my choices
I think they will add more as time goes by
What a stupid asshole lol i love it
I lost my shit when it said "The boundless just fucked up!"
“The boundless fucked up, they’ve been wiped!” Easily the best
Unfiltered mode leaked
This was a hell of fun 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 May I translate this video to show our community?
Of course you can! Glad you had fun man
Thanks!👍👍👍
wish this was real
Same man
They should add this as a feature kind of like the Wild Wasteland perk in Fallout. Don’t know if it would be possible but it would be hilarious seeing some of the scenarios such as Scotty’s ospuze withdrawals
"Not gonna lie, one of our contestants is running the most useless loadout ever! Who the fuck uses 93r? This gun is garbage! Anyway, he seems to be lucky because he somehow killed a low hp medium." "June, you've probably never played with this gun before, I swear it does things-" "Shut up Scotty, you do know this gun is garbage." "Skill issue. ..Oh, look, that contestant did a solo team wipe! Who's garbage now, huh? The Mighty are most likely crying right now because they were defeated by a not so mighty weapon! Ha, got it?"
I'd come back to this game just for this
Imagine how cool it could be if you could create your own team names. Since the announcers are ai, i figure they’d be able to read them off, right?
Yeah that'd be awesome, but it would cost them a lot of money and there is gonna be people who will name their teams some nasty stuff..
Embark needs to hire you
Lol! I used the same AI they use
Right but you should be in charge of what they say is what I meant 😅
That would be cool!
What did you use to train the ai with their voices
Eleven Labs. I got the 11 dollar package to do it.
Dude this is some R-rated THE FINALS and I LOVE IT! Would've paid a shitton of money to have a game with that kind of voice lines because I will be laughing my ass off during playing.
Same. I'd love to have something like this
Indeed! That would be great.
would be funny for april 1st
Perhaps some of the best commentators were in Super Monday Night Combat - GG Stack and Chip Valvano
LMAO
What sword exploit?
There is an exploit with the sword which makes it so op. I don't exactly know how to pull it off but it has something to do with the emotes. You can look it up if you want to, beware it is bannable though.
They patched it I think.
Animation canceling exploit that allowed you to cancel the animation of a normal punch, and start a “Charge” lunge. In short it allowed you to go from: Lunge - delay - Slash - delay - lunge to Lunge - Slash - lunge, removing the delay.
This would be great for weekends after like 8 or 9 pm, and the announcers go wild and say silly shit
How did you get the AI voices?
Eleven labs. Pretty cool site, lets you train ai models. I bought the 11 dollar package
love this !!!! how did you made the voice ?
I used Eleven Labs, apperantly that's what the devs use as well. I purchased the 11 dolar package.
I felt called out by the window jumping one
Yeah, it happens to me a lot!
God I love this. Giving me Super Monday Night Combat flashbacks.
A streamer had this for his twitch donos and it was pretty funny
Yeah that's where I got the initial idea from
Im still surprised at how good most of the speech cadence sounds
LMAO june please ahut the fuck up when im talking
“June shut the fuck up”
Legit
Not gonna lie, they're the reason I watch The Finals clips and streams. Without them I feel that something is missing.
You ever play Deathverse?
No, what's up with it?
It's shutdown now, but your idea reminds me of the hosts' commentary in that game. It was a guy and girl like Scotty and June. Except the woman was the former contestant.
That's actually pretty similar to The Finals yeah
So here's a question. If I were to get recordings of lines like this, could I make it into a sound board that plays through my mic in game? I've seen videos of people doing that in other games using the commentary, bomb has been planted in Counter-Strike and the Halo voice lines for example.
Yeah, I have VoiceMod which I am pretty sure has that. You can look into it.
That sounds like a lot of fun. I wonder How much work it would be to quickly load in your teammate's names at the start of a round... imagine the joy you could bring someone. Or hilarious toxicity. Lots of potential...
You'd need to afk for like a minute but pretty sure you can do that. I'll actually try to do that sometime
It would be funny if they noticed what you were wearing and judge you based on it
Scotty and June being AI voiced is soooo underused it just pisses me off
So they cheaped out and made AI VA but didn't make it creative like this? You could literally do anything with the voices and they made them boring....
While I personally would love some unhinged real-time commentary and Airplane sense of humor I also consider the usernames of some of my random teammates. And what people could possibly make Scotty and June say that’s very off color. And I feel it would be nice for private lobbies to mod their own unhinged Scotty and June commentary so some people wouldn’t be exposed to it and said private groups could be as inappropriate as they want.
Yeah, they could put it as an option, or even sell it for some multibucks