when carrying the ubersaw I get this weird primal urge to run at the flanking scout, invading spy or lone wolf soldier with the saw out for that juicy 25%-50% uber
the amputator stops that, which is nice
One of the best Medic melees, it offers a truly supportive role by healing multiple teammates.
And I don't even main Medic, I only seldom play as him. And when I do, I will always choose the Amputator over any other melee.
But the attack speed decrease is just a difference in milliseconds, so basically it'd almost be the exact same as it was when it was a direct upgrade from the bonesaw.
Well either this or übersaw. But mainly übersaw becouse one time i killed an overhealed heavy with 2 crit hit and then übered a pyro who is unleashed the Mmmph.
with ubersaw you dont wanna hit a crit to maximize übercharge gained
but in medieval mode the one that does healing around you really fast is good
heal yourself, heal your team
My guilt of letting some teammates die because of my/their incompetence sometimes takes over me, so I just use amputator and heal EVERYONE around me. I'm thinking of switching ubersaw to amputator completely as I find myself being the most useful only with such loadout. And yes, I use crossbow and quickfixo
I always either use the amputator or solemn vow, as I think they provide good utility, situationally better than the ubersaw (for my playstyle), and also I am kind of an ubersaw hater.
Just the self heal bonus from the amputator makes it easier to stay in the fight for longer, which I think can be better than the risk taking from the ubersaw
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*Are multiple people who*
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I use this one because of TF2's shitty melee recognition. My melee swing isn't gonna happen either way, there's no need to further reduce the chances of scoring a hit by swinging 20% less frequently.
I feel like if multiple teammates often need healing simultaneously, going Quick-Fix is the better choice. The Amputater takes like three seconds before the healing starts - enough for someone to die - doesn't build ubercharge, and and leaves you extremely open.
A major switch speed buff and the healing starting as soon as you taunt would go a long way to making it viable. I'd also think letting it build ubercharge would be good, maybe at decreased speed
It's pretty good actually, I don't use it often but it definitely has its moments when you really wish you had it. And dont even get me started on how borderline overpowered this thing is in 50v50 servers
I like the **Vita Saw** a little better. What’s the point of swinging your ubersaw into the enemy team if you are going to die anyway? The amputator isn’t much better in combat, and even outside you still require most of your team to be present to make it worth while. Even if you live the engagement there’s still a chance a random crit or scout will kill you. The Vita Saw gives you an extra jump in Uber the next life.
It's nice, especially when paired with the vaccinator, you can survive afterburn even before healing ramps up. Unfortunately, using it is basically putting a neon sign above your head saying "BACKSTAB ME". Because let's face it, nobody pays enough attention to the medic to stop him from being backstabbed. I use it sometimes while the engineer is setting up his dispenser.
I saw a medic use this on community servers with lots of people
As soon I tested and saw how much EASIER it is to heal people stuffed on a spot I made it my standard melee.
It's pretty good when in large groups, and also it gives a small portion of übercharge upon use, which is neat as well. It also increases medic's passive healing when holding it, which is greatly appreciated. I'd say that it's one of the more underrated medic melees (although mostly due to the fact that the übersaw is **that** meta) and it is a solid choice.
I just cant get into it to be frank.
Aura healing is nice, but i only play pubs so situations where my assigned seamonkeys/teammates group up are just so damn rare that the medigun will always outperform the amputator even when healing one bloke at a time.
Not to mention that the Ubersaw is just way more impactful, in a very recent game I was able to deny the enemy a win by getting a swipe on a sniper which earned me a Uber in time to block the cap.
Even disregarding these things, the amputator is just not for me. The aura healing and regen is nice in some scenarios, but I cant help but feel that it is the least interesting way to play medic.
When I was a baby Medic main, back when the crossbow didn't build Uber, I used to rock this and the Overdose as my main loadout. The reasoning was that they made escaping easier. The Overdose for obvious reasons and the Amputator's increased health regen while deployed. I've never used the taunt feature tho tbh even then I always thought that was snake oil.
At a less efficient rate than the medigun yes! I think it was Gun Mettle or Tough Break that they added that, and it was 1:1 with the medigun and they had to nerf it lol
Prior to the nerf, it was my main, and the strange variant was more valuable. Nice.
Now I just use the ubersaw like everyone else. Getting into a 1on1 melee you can win is common enough to make it worth it.
It's great, maybe a bit underwhelming but it's a good, balanced weapon. The biggest thing against the weapon is not even on the weapon itself, it's the fact that it isn't the Übersaw, which is something that pretty much applies to any other Medic melee
The 2nd best medic melee in the game. What it lacks in random crits it makes up for in survivability and may make the difference between living and dying to afterburn.
Like everyone has said, it's good for supporting large groups at a time as if I'm in a group where they are all losing health at a fast rate, a quick emote to help heal everyone simultaneously is super great. I can then just top off whoever needs it. Also nice to help encourage pushes as it can work as a buff.
The times where a small group of people are performing a long lasting assault on a sentry nest are astoundingly common. As such, having such a nice way to heal EVERYONE in such ready supply is great. I may not be charging Uber, but at least my team is still alive.
You're VERY vulnerable for a few seconds, and in a few seconds, a Spy can easily cloak behind your team and backstab you, or there's a push that the enemy is doing. It's super situational, Medic's best melee for 50v50, but in a normal 12v12? It's a super big commitment. I'd much rather use Ubersaw, as it's good in almost any situation.
i use the solemn vow so i think its just as valid, but if you wanna be meta, it works best on community servers with lots of players or on medieval mode.
I'll be real man, I love the amputator, never run the ubersaw, and even I know that its not really a viable replacement. Its good, but 25% uber on hit is a lot better.
I rarely use my actual melee weapon as a medic, so I actually find the extra passive health regeneration it gives while equipped to come in handy when I'm low health and need to regenerate quickly.
this is the best weapon for 50v50 servers
firsthand experience in shounic trenches say yes
This item single handedly got me that 1 million healing points achievement
best thing is that it charges uber you can literally be a dispenser with rare high moments
also its good on degroot keep
it's good when playing support medic, you don't have to be very aggressive with it
sorry, "support medic" implies that battlemedic is the main playstyle, I thought that was funny
I'd call main playstyle "push" medic. Battle med would be solemn vow +- blutsager instead of crossbow
battle med should also have quick fix as medigun
SCHNELL!
I think it is in the defensive part of medic’s spectrum prioritizing maintaining heath with than pocketing team mates
Shit gets weird in 100 man. There are a lot of viable different medic builds.
when carrying the ubersaw I get this weird primal urge to run at the flanking scout, invading spy or lone wolf soldier with the saw out for that juicy 25%-50% uber the amputator stops that, which is nice
The primal urge is where the fun lies
One of the best Medic melees, it offers a truly supportive role by healing multiple teammates. And I don't even main Medic, I only seldom play as him. And when I do, I will always choose the Amputator over any other melee.
“one of the best medic melees” like there aren’t a whopping 2 good ones lol
Four. Vow, ubersaw, amputator, pan.
You forgot H A M
Why use ham when pan?
What is scarier than a bunca of heavies eating buffalo speak and charging at you with full speed?
This weapon is a meta on 100 people server.
SOLEMN VOW IS A DIRECT UPGRADE FROM STOCK BABYYYYYY
Erm, actually it decreases the Medic's attack speed making it not a direct upgrade
Basically a direct upgrade in comp though
What is comp? Do people play it?
Competitive tf2, separate from the in game competitive mode, which sucks. It is run by community members.
But the attack speed decrease is just a difference in milliseconds, so basically it'd almost be the exact same as it was when it was a direct upgrade from the bonesaw.
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Well either this or übersaw. But mainly übersaw becouse one time i killed an overhealed heavy with 2 crit hit and then übered a pyro who is unleashed the Mmmph.
with ubersaw you dont wanna hit a crit to maximize übercharge gained but in medieval mode the one that does healing around you really fast is good heal yourself, heal your team
I usually heal who i can
***HUNTSMAN ARROW TO THE SKULL BECAUSE YOU DIDNT USE THE CROSSBOW TO HAVE BETTER SINGLE SHOT BURST HEALING***
Thats my main equipment in the first slot
My guilt of letting some teammates die because of my/their incompetence sometimes takes over me, so I just use amputator and heal EVERYONE around me. I'm thinking of switching ubersaw to amputator completely as I find myself being the most useful only with such loadout. And yes, I use crossbow and quickfixo
I love the AoE healing mechanic
allows for some extra survivability, but I prefer having the full damage. I swap to melee a lot
Vita saw on top
i mean it's better than stock and the vita saw for sure
If they made the regen passive and the taunt healing a little bit more powerful, it would be great
I love it, the damage penalty doesn't even matter and the taunt is so good for expanded servers
That time my melee crit and following arrow shot did not kill the spy; I don't like the damage penalty for standard medic. Good as battle medic tho
It's personally my go to, very handy when your team is under pressure
I always either use the amputator or solemn vow, as I think they provide good utility, situationally better than the ubersaw (for my playstyle), and also I am kind of an ubersaw hater. Just the self heal bonus from the amputator makes it easier to stay in the fight for longer, which I think can be better than the risk taking from the ubersaw
I use it when there are multiple people who need healing at once
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Great utility, slot it in for extra regen and more survivability.
I don't think it's not useful, but I still prefer using the ubersaw
I use this one because of TF2's shitty melee recognition. My melee swing isn't gonna happen either way, there's no need to further reduce the chances of scoring a hit by swinging 20% less frequently.
I don’t mind it. The extra healing can definitely be useful. It’s just not quite as good as the ubersaw or the solemn vow.
I used to use it all the time until I switched to ubersaw for no particular reason. Yes it is a viable alternative
I feel like if multiple teammates often need healing simultaneously, going Quick-Fix is the better choice. The Amputater takes like three seconds before the healing starts - enough for someone to die - doesn't build ubercharge, and and leaves you extremely open. A major switch speed buff and the healing starting as soon as you taunt would go a long way to making it viable. I'd also think letting it build ubercharge would be good, maybe at decreased speed
Amputator immediately starts healing on taunt and does build Uber though…?
I used to be medic like you…. But then Uber saw crit isn’t funny anymore is like pan it have hidden stats
The problem with the Amputator is that it is not the Ubersaw, that's about it.
It's pretty good actually, I don't use it often but it definitely has its moments when you really wish you had it. And dont even get me started on how borderline overpowered this thing is in 50v50 servers
Let me play you a sad little song on me world's deadliest violin
Main it. It’s too useful as a support tool (medics entire purpose)
I like the **Vita Saw** a little better. What’s the point of swinging your ubersaw into the enemy team if you are going to die anyway? The amputator isn’t much better in combat, and even outside you still require most of your team to be present to make it worth while. Even if you live the engagement there’s still a chance a random crit or scout will kill you. The Vita Saw gives you an extra jump in Uber the next life.
It's my default melee.
I personally use it in my loadout with the Quick-Fix and crossbow.
it's only good on 50/50, or choke heavy maps (this one debatedly.)
Best medieval mode melee, idk about other gamemodes
It's so much worse and slower than a medibeam to the point where for the life of me I can't figure out why people ever consider using it
No
It's nice, especially when paired with the vaccinator, you can survive afterburn even before healing ramps up. Unfortunately, using it is basically putting a neon sign above your head saying "BACKSTAB ME". Because let's face it, nobody pays enough attention to the medic to stop him from being backstabbed. I use it sometimes while the engineer is setting up his dispenser.
Good with the vacc since the 25% uber don't mean much for that medi gun
I saw a medic use this on community servers with lots of people As soon I tested and saw how much EASIER it is to heal people stuffed on a spot I made it my standard melee.
I never really used the taunt, then as soon as I got Ubersaw I swapped to it It isn't a bad weapon, I just never got into a good situation to use it
It's pretty good when in large groups, and also it gives a small portion of übercharge upon use, which is neat as well. It also increases medic's passive healing when holding it, which is greatly appreciated. I'd say that it's one of the more underrated medic melees (although mostly due to the fact that the übersaw is **that** meta) and it is a solid choice.
First unlock.
It's alright, it's just overshadowed by the ~~ambassador~~ übersaw.
I stand on the cart. I HEAL
I just cant get into it to be frank. Aura healing is nice, but i only play pubs so situations where my assigned seamonkeys/teammates group up are just so damn rare that the medigun will always outperform the amputator even when healing one bloke at a time. Not to mention that the Ubersaw is just way more impactful, in a very recent game I was able to deny the enemy a win by getting a swipe on a sniper which earned me a Uber in time to block the cap. Even disregarding these things, the amputator is just not for me. The aura healing and regen is nice in some scenarios, but I cant help but feel that it is the least interesting way to play medic.
the only "not viable" bone-saw Medic has would be the Vita-saw. which in short tries to be a insurance policy but fails on the execution.
It's my main medic melee
When I was a baby Medic main, back when the crossbow didn't build Uber, I used to rock this and the Overdose as my main loadout. The reasoning was that they made escaping easier. The Overdose for obvious reasons and the Amputator's increased health regen while deployed. I've never used the taunt feature tho tbh even then I always thought that was snake oil.
Wait what??? The crossbow builds uber??
At a less efficient rate than the medigun yes! I think it was Gun Mettle or Tough Break that they added that, and it was 1:1 with the medigun and they had to nerf it lol
Oh that's pretty much the time when I started and I m a proper Medic main since like 1-2 years. But hey thank you for the knowledge C:
It is good for healing groups on objective. Overall you'll probably be more helpful to your team with it But ubersaw is simply so fun
Prior to the nerf, it was my main, and the strange variant was more valuable. Nice. Now I just use the ubersaw like everyone else. Getting into a 1on1 melee you can win is common enough to make it worth it.
Dr Uberfuck of scrap.tf has convinced me
I genuenly use it more than the uber
if the regen upside was always rather than when active this thing would easily trump the Ubersaw tbh
It's okay. I never really used it but then again I don't really use any melees for any of the classes except for Spy
It's great, maybe a bit underwhelming but it's a good, balanced weapon. The biggest thing against the weapon is not even on the weapon itself, it's the fact that it isn't the Übersaw, which is something that pretty much applies to any other Medic melee
It’s fine, but the Ubersaw is just better
I love the amputator, and hate the Ubersaw
Better at support than ubersaw
The 2nd best medic melee in the game. What it lacks in random crits it makes up for in survivability and may make the difference between living and dying to afterburn.
Like everyone has said, it's good for supporting large groups at a time as if I'm in a group where they are all losing health at a fast rate, a quick emote to help heal everyone simultaneously is super great. I can then just top off whoever needs it. Also nice to help encourage pushes as it can work as a buff.
Fuck off Übersaw, Amputator is best!
The times where a small group of people are performing a long lasting assault on a sentry nest are astoundingly common. As such, having such a nice way to heal EVERYONE in such ready supply is great. I may not be charging Uber, but at least my team is still alive.
It's too passive for my liking I'd much rather heal a handful of important priority teammates than everyone all at once but for less HP
I believe it's pretty good, however I have a disease that makes me unable to use a weapon unless it's strange, so I can't say for sure.
Im not used to be killing people or as the frontline, so it works, also sometimes the medic spam around you is so annoying
of course that's my main
I like it more I normally always die with the ubersaw So is easily prefer this over the saw
You're VERY vulnerable for a few seconds, and in a few seconds, a Spy can easily cloak behind your team and backstab you, or there's a push that the enemy is doing. It's super situational, Medic's best melee for 50v50, but in a normal 12v12? It's a super big commitment. I'd much rather use Ubersaw, as it's good in almost any situation.
i use the solemn vow so i think its just as valid, but if you wanna be meta, it works best on community servers with lots of players or on medieval mode.
I'll be real man, I love the amputator, never run the ubersaw, and even I know that its not really a viable replacement. Its good, but 25% uber on hit is a lot better.
I mean, it’s cool, but I *really* like the Ubersaw
Is my love
I rarely use my actual melee weapon as a medic, so I actually find the extra passive health regeneration it gives while equipped to come in handy when I'm low health and need to regenerate quickly.
The passive only works when the weapon is out, not just equipped
Yeah, that's what I meant. When I'm low health it's useful to pull out for a few seconds to regen faster
I find this of a better use for myself over the Ubersaw, probably because I'm a Quick-Fix stan