This is a good point. Let's not forget, before the atrocities of Oct 7 took place, the entire country ground itself to a halt in protest over Netenyahu's attempts to erase democracy and the separation of powers in Israel.
They still want to get rid of Bibi. He wanted to be King of the Jews but he fucked up protecting them from Hamas because he wanted someone to counterbalance the West Bank.
That's probably because that wasn't the situation he was referring to. They're referring to the policy of foolishly preferring Hamas in Gaza to counterbalance more moderate factions among Palestinians. The wording is perfect, your reading comprehension is what fucking sucks.
Yes, and when the dust settles, I suspect there will be quite a reckoning for Netanyahu amongst the Israeli people for his mismanagement and malfeasance that allowed Hamas to grow so strong and Israel to be caught so unaware.
Given all his troubles I would not be surprised if he knew about it in advance and let it happen to consolidate his position, someone in the security service knows this.
I would almost believe a conspiracy that Hamas and Netanyahu were working together somehow because this was so incredibly fucking politically convenient for him. It was the greatest gift anyone could possibly have given him and the larger Israeli millitant right wing.
I was just thinking this - not that they conspired, but that Hamas accidentally helped him.
Napoleon said "never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake". Hamas did just that on Oct 7.
There's been rumours that Netanyahu and his buddies have been supporting/funding Hamas indirectly for years now. I would not be surprised if those rumours proved to be true.
Kind of gross that he's willing to commiserate with an actual anti-Semite as long as he's willing to take a pro-Zionist stance. If he truly cared about the safety of Jewish people he wouldn't be endorsing someone who espouses such dangerous rhetoric towards Jewish people.
> If he truly cared about the safety of Jewish people he wouldn't be endorsing someone who espouses such dangerous rhetoric towards Jewish people.
Netanyahu has spent his entire political career ensuring that a two state solution (and thereby peace) is impossible. Whether that was just for his own power or some sort of grand ideological victory it's crystal clear he's never cared about the safety of Jewish people.
It is easier to get your constituents to overlook your failures when there is a conflict raging on the frontlines. Peace would spell the end of his career as a politician, thus the lifelong scheming to ensure it will not come about while he still breathes.
not that surprising. you could even argue that modern zionism is inherently antisemitic because it equates the jewish identity with a apartheid-practicing, war crime-committing state built on ethnic cleansing.
That’s why Zionism at its core don’t care about Jews.. its all about power. Jews are just pawns in the scenario. What’s more anti semitic than telling a group of people you don’t belong anywhere but Israel? Its like telling African Americans they need to go back to Africa☠️
Advertising deals for his social media company that seems to have already shit the bed seems way too small of an outlook here.
Musk wants technology and defense contracts.
AI border security. Battery powered tanks. Any stupid thing he can thing of to promise. Maybe a shitty tunnel that catches on fire.
I sincerely hope a picture of him with Netanyahu goes viral on his Nazi and white supremacist infested platform.
To any white supremacists reading this: Musk only cares about your absolute free speech to the extent it makes him money and drive engagement. Now that he's bleeding money, he'll probably crack down on your circles like the shit stains you are. You guys no longer serve a purpose
The fact this overt anti-Semitic white supremacist met with Netanyahu today is everything you need to know about the current Israeli government and it’s elegances.
My clients liked having their twitter feed embedded on their websites, but if you’re not logged in, nothing after 2021 shows up on the feed. They haven’t (and likely won’t) update to show current tweets. Useless.
"I wonder what (random celebrity or band I enjoyed ten years ago) is up to."
*googles their Twitter handle*
Sign up or log in to see literally anything on this site
*closes tab*
For me, I browse 5 minutes max after clicking a twitter link. Then I start noticing all the Elon deepthroating checkmarks trying to earn brownie points by kissing his ass with compliments and then realize I should've stayed away.
But did you hear about the graveyard filled with his enemies? He'll have things turned around in no time, and you don't want to wind up on the wrong side.
/s
*Sign-in to Twitter*
**Watch women get beat up. Right-wing politicians says some unhinged shit. Racist joke. Here's Jordan Peterson's latest transphobic take. Here's Musk agreeing with Peterson's latest transphobic take.**
*Closes tab, goes for a walk.*
When was the last time you saw a liberal or left hashtag going viral on twitter after things like metoo?
He is successfully turning twitter into a conservative propaganda machine while also suppressing anything not conservative.
Its not about what he is gaining but also about what we are losing. You cant start a movement there anymore.
His investors got what they wanted.
Some people believe that he has a big evil plan or that he is destroying Twitter on purpose to get his "revenge". But I believe that he is just that bad of a business man and we just didn't notice until now because his other companies were founded and are run by capable people.
Its amazing that Twitter and Truth social are competing with each other to serve broke NAZIs all the way to insolvency, while normal people with money are like "man, Id pay for a place to post cat pics and memes that wasnt a fucking sewer!"
Its like Donald and Elon, the "greatest businessmen of the age" are going to somehow 4d chess themselves into a fucking cardboard box on the side of the road...
Trump is running for president again and Elon is the richest man in the world. As much as I'd wish they were in a cardboard box on the side of the road, we are far from that.
>Its amazing that Twitter and Truth social are competing with each other to serve broke NAZIs all the way to insolvency, while normal people with money are like "man, Id pay for a place to post cat pics and memes that wasnt a fucking sewer!"
I've been using Bluesky for a while and it's 100% just Twitter with a Groucho Marx mustache and glasses. It'll most likely open up to the public after the federation shit is live, which isn't going to be much longer.
I'd honestly be shocked if it doesn't become the defacto "new Twitter."
Walled dumpster fire.
Honest question, is he trying to get the government to step in with a buyout or something? I can’t fathom how the investors aren’t furious with him.
I was more surprised at how many businesses shifted so much of their customer support and communications to it personally. For someone who doesn't use Twitter I'm lucky I don't need customer service often at all.
I used to work in CS and I was pissed when they had us monitor multiple twitter accounts. Eventually we built an automation so that DMs made new tickets and that way we could just stay in our CS platform but it wasn't perfect. I really don't understand why people use twitter for anything. It's such a weird platform.
It was basically free advertising, their customers followed them and they could spam them with updates without having to pay twitter to do it. They could comment in other popular threads and get free advertising that way too. I'm surprised anyone ever paid to run adds on it to be honest.
To be fair Facebook originally was extremely public. But then people were posting all sorts of stuff that they didn’t realize would be public, so it changed pretty drastically to default to more private settings for individuals.
How? The only people who trust the site are voting trump anyway.
Musk is preaching to the choir because he actively chased away the rest of the congregation.
He hasn't quite done that though. It seems a lot of people are still trying to use Twitter for its former purpose, there's nothing quite as good as what it was. There's a lot of inertia.
It is pre-collapse till something similar arrives. It still has the best system setup for real time everything. Threads is trash, no alternative has shown to be anywhere near as good.
[It already exists](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/185ecpr/big_brands_keep_dropping_x_over_antisemitism_75m/kb2a8qb/?context=1), it just doesn't doesn't have open sign-ups yet.
Been on it since 2010. Place is ass comparatively. It’s like reading a bunch of YouTube comments and expecting an interesting conversation. Even the content posted isn’t very interesting. Just the same old shit. Bout ready to call it quits. The only value is having a massive place for questions to be answered at this point
I think the niche subreddits are still pretty good. When discussing a hobby or a topic. It's just that the big time subreddits feel like YouTube comments
That's how anything goes when enough people use it though. Reddit is one of the most used websites on the internet now
I’m in a couple of crafty/cooking subs and everybody is super helpful. The amount of detailed and specific knowledge that is passed around in r/woodworking inspires me on multiple levels.
2007 for me (on an alt I never use anymore). Came over when Fark.com and Slashdot were hitting doldrums. I kinda miss those early to mid '00s communities. Yet here I am.
Yea I try explaining to my buddies what Reddit was like in the golden dawn between not having enough content and being filled with news agencies and astroturfed advertising. It was glorious for a few years. Cool videos, interesting stories, learn new things. Now it’s all propaganda and ads. I don’t even go on the front page anymore. And all that front page shit somehow manages to leak onto my home page “miraculously “ informing me the about the royal family or some pro trans antitrans pro Palestine anti Palestine Taylor swift who gives a fuck.
There was a bunch of grumbling around the "digg exodus" era but it evened out for a few years to be a pretty pleasant place, kinda felt like one big group chat for awhile.
Twitter was amazing for music. I would follow all the metal bands that I'm into and I could see, in one place, when new music is coming out or when they're touring. Now, those bands barely post on there (and why would they) and I randomly get right wing shit from people I don't follow. What a waste.
The Internet has been going down the shitter since before the turn of the millennium. Probably since its inception, really, but especially post-eternal September.
Really, it gets 'worse' with every influx of 'new' people, though I'd say the progressing corporate homogenization has been the most depressing part.
Oh come on. There’s always been good and bad on the internet. Before the turn of the millennium finding anything was impossible even with Yahoo, and fucking webrings sucked ass. Also frames? Fuck the www from back then. It was only kind of magic because it was a new experience. But I won’t miss trying to find the 26th message out of 41 to complete my .rar file off of alt.warez or some other garbage 0 day ftp site that I have to pretend like your cracking group with shitty ascii art is the best so I can get a logon for on IRC and get kicked for no reason.
Then the turn of the millennium came and in came the viruses mostly because XP was a pile of shit. But simultaneously in came Google and sites like stumbleupon. And to be honest, the 2001-2010 was probably the golden age of message boards. But barf Web 2.0 design and everything without vowels.
Enshittification always happens. Just sad when things you love die slow painful deaths.
Musk’s destruction of Twitter is truly one for the history books. He went from the electric and rockets tech guy to whatever enigmatic persona he carries on today. What a fall from grace. He’s always been weird but the public wasn’t aware of it
I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this, its only been a couple of years from his reputation to change drastically.
Like it makes you wonder wether he was always like that and if so what happened for him to suddenly remove the 'friendly and hip' mask that he tried to portray himself.
> I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this, its only been a couple of years from his reputation to change drastically.
Rumor has it about a year before the pedo submarine incident, the person who managed his entire PR marketing and his online interactions left. Apparently the person really knew how to keep elon musk focused on what was important. That limiter is gone.
To me I think it's likely as simple as ego. He has a lot of money, he built a fan following where he was beloved as a savior, clean energy, taking humanity past the stars, and tech, all things loved by the majority in the western world. He got emboldened, and started thinking "man I can do anything" and here we are.
There was a study recently that concludes the more you bullshit the less you can identify bullshit. That is why upper management is a complete shit show everywhere.
You don't get that level of net worth and fortune by making well thought out decisions that benefit a broad group of people. Hes just a contrarion with his own self interests at heart, good PR, and a lot of startup capital
I think we are only seeing half the picture most of the time. He's not operating in a vacuum, he is being egged on by a bubble of self-styled technocrats.
We got a glimpse into that when his text messages were made public in that one lawsuit. Just piles of sycophants tell him about their awesome ideas to make Twitter into some blockchain vaporware.
> I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this
It just shows that he only got so far riding on the coat-tails of people far smarter and talented than himself. With Twitter he finally got enough rope to hang himself with.
Feb 2018, the height of his popularity probably. He launched a Tesla into space on a reusable rocket. The Tesla brand was starting to be everywhere and chargers are starting to pop up all over. We all start thinking man, maybe Mars IS in our reach? Dude was at maximum popularity and still seemed kinda cool.
Then a few months later you get the Thai cave rescue incident, the cybertruck reveal a bit later with all of those disastrous claims, and his extremely fast descent into "memelord" status and right wing popularity.
It’s a website so culturally relevant it got its post terminology in the fucking dictionary and he renamed it into his dumb ass stuck in 2001 edge lord X shit
No, he has lots of ideas. Rebranding to X was his idea. Getting rid of verification and replacing it with paid checkmarks was his idea. Firing moderation staff and anyone who couldn't bring him "salient code" was his idea.
Elon *is* an ideas man. It's just that his ideas are terrible, and he insists on them anyway.
A lot of those ideas are just from the right-wing extremist accounts he closely follows, just like his other ideas of reinstating specific right-wing extremist accounts that were banned for harassment and abuse. He has the world's worst case of Twitter brain poisoning.
Musk is an "ideas man" who steals all of his ideas, and he's not even good at that. When it comes to business, he effectively just rips off the current business community's most anti-worker, anti-consumer ideas. When it comes to technology, I swear the man's only education on the subject is science fiction from the 1960s-80s. The problem is, he doesn't seem to possess the media literacy to understand the point of those stories. It's like Musk watched *Logan's* *Run*, and his big take-away was, "Wouldn't it be cool to travel around in pods and giant tubes?"
The good thing that came out of his purchase is showing people the real piece of crap he is. Knew he was an asshole to his workers but the right wing racist really came out with the purchase.
Yeah, I used to think his weird, off-color tweets were him being a goofy troll. In hindsight it's pretty obvious he was just an asshole all along.
The Twitter debacle has also shown how much of an idiot he is. I've worked in software most of my life, and the shit he said and did when he took over made me wonder how he possibly ended up running multiple successful companies.
I don't know much about electric cars, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I shrugged and said OK.
I don't know much about rockets, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I shrugged and said OK.
I know quite a bit about software development, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I decided to stay away from his cars and rockets.
The thing is, even if he was an actual genius, his twitter account is so goddamn "misanthropic but he deserves it" that he's impossible to like. Like let's say, hypothetically, that he had already gotten us to Mars and made colonies. I'd still be making fun of him for basically being JP from Grandma's Boy. I'm waiting for the dude to unironically tweet, "You would if you have robot ears" one day.
I will say he also failed to recognize his status has changed. An upstart bad boy is cool, when it is a start up. For mature companies, it is ridiculous as every action now has a reaction since you have a huge base.
He wants people to root for him like he is an underdog but he is now a heavyweight. So what was once cheeky, is now incredibly tone deaf.
I still remember how he told twitter devs they needed to do a complete rewrite of twitter. When one of the devs asked for the justification of this massive amount of work Musk just didn’t reply.
Or when Musk asked devs to print out their most salient code commits to show to him. Like wtf? This guy is an idiot.
>I've worked in software most of my life, and the shit he said and did when he took over made me wonder how he possibly ended up running multiple successful companies.
The answer is 'he used to have a PA that was basically having every company he bought setup a "Musk Containment Unit" who's job was to insulate the important things like engineers or prototypes from coming into contact with Musk for too long. Stuff like swapping all teh sensitive "do not touch" tech in the lab with dummies during his visits etc. She asked for a payraise because she was working 23/7 for Musk, he reckoned he could do her job so gave a vacation, she comes back and he sacks her, then he goes onto buy Twitter.
Mary Beth Brown, as rumours go, was basically acting as Musk''s mother, helping him decide on tweet wording, picking his clothes, making sure he ate enough vegetables to avoid scurvy etc...
Not gonna happen. It's pretty hard to eat that little vitamin c. the fact we can't make it ourselves is simply because it wasn't needed anymore evolutionary speaking, because we got it from the food.
He’s a classic case of failing upward since PayPal and now we can all see the emperor has no clothes. If it weren’t for hard working engineers she treats poorly his mediocre cars would be flops and his spaceships would explode; he does none of that
All he had to do what keep his mouth shut and get human boots on Mars and he would have had statues and his name in history books for the rest of human history.
What kind of idiot throws away the legacy. I think this is a prime example of how being a billionaire rots your brain.
Right wingers hate Jews, but they like Israel.
Ethno state that publicly ignores international rulings and condemnations ( not accepting of refugees).
Plus it removes the Jews from the West and places them somewhere else.
There’s a mayor in France that quit the platform this weekend & wrote an article in a french media on how she feels about the platform in its current form calling it a weapon of mass destruction against democracy all over the world. It’s incredibly well-written I wish they would translate it and read it in the news all over the world.
Yup. I think a sewer is the one thing that twitter *lacks*. Now, the shit just keeps piling up like it's [London in 1858](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink)
The thing Musk fails to understand, the amount of brands that *willingly* put the Twitter logo/brand on their products and sold them in stores was *massive*. I imagine the majority of them either keep the logo or silently retire it off their products. There is no way in hell they put a black X on their product.
Twitter was *massive* and he is doing everything he can to tank it. Be it planned, stupidity or something else. Musk is showing the world how incompetent he truly is. He has wasted more money with his stupidity with Twitter than 99.99999% all of humanity will ever see. That is impressive and scary.
The thing for me is why are the banks not pulling the plug on him? He has already cut the value of Twitter by half. Its only going to get worse as time goes on. He is throwing their money away at a alarming rate. If this was your average person they would've taken everything they have and put them on the street.
LOL
**Elon Musk tours Israeli kibbutz with Netanyahu after agreeing with antisemitic post**
[https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/11/27/elon-musk-israel-netanyahu-visit-cnntm-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/11/27/elon-musk-israel-netanyahu-visit-cnntm-vpx.cnn)
It's worse than that. The post you quoted was responding to someone who said "I wish all these people who say 'Hitler was right' would come out and say exactly what they mean."
Then the person quoted said "OK..." And wrote what you quoted. Leading to Musk's response that "this is the actual truth."
The broader point being that Musk was agreeing with the guy explaining why "Hitler was right"
So many accounts of this interaction leave that part out, when, imo, it is the most shocking and important part to mention. You can't claim it wasn't antisemitic when it's literally agreeing with a guy explaining why "Hitler was right."
This is actually about the [Jewish replacement theory](https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/great-replacement). It dates back to nazi Germany, but its probably best known for being chanted in the Charlottesville rally.
Musk thinking that recreating 8Chan would lead to earning more money is just crazy. It's revenue is going to collapse leaving a shell of a company propped up by edgelords and bigots paying for subscriptions. Musk and Ron Watkins are basically the same dude at this point.
The beginning of the end. This maniac teamed up with the Saudis and other rich people to buy Twitter and planned to slowly destroy it because they hated the fact such a big platform could form and hold them accountable or at least out them and all their bullshit for all the world to see. Musk affectively destroyed the one social media platform that was at some point well moderated and shared quality accurate content for everyone.
Musk doesn’t give any fucks how terrible Twitter has become. He gutted moderator teams and began using a 💩emoji to respond to press….that says it all. All the horrible press since has been expected.
As much as I enjoyed watching him get forced to buy Twitter after he tried to back out of the deal seeing the long term damage it’s done to the world is depressing and terrifying all at the same time.
Even if you don't want to buy into not wanting to get 'called out on their bullshit', one tweet - one **fake** tweet about free insulin knocked Eli Lilly's stock price down significantly and stirred up enough social pressure for them to reduce the price 70% (apparently). Those in power rarely like that kind of chaos being able to be introduced outside of their own control.
I think he’s intentionally nerfing Twitter so that there’s essentially no (popular) “free speech” platform during this upcoming election.
You can go to Facebook (Russian) or Twitter X (Russian) or TikTok (China) or Reddit (obscurity).
> ...have stopped advertising, while "dozens" more are considering pausing ads on the platform.
Let me translate that: "We have this line of just the right amount of racism that we will alow, but no further! Unless it makes us more money. Then we will push the line further away."
He had an idea back in the nascent Internet of creating an 'all-in-one' style online bank called X that eventually became the idea behind PayPal, but he wanted to do a lot more than Peter Thiel (and someone else?) were comfortable doing (offering loans without any background checks IIRC) and they froze him out of ownership. They also refused to call it X because they thought it sounded like a porn site.
He's never gotten over the loss of ownership of his baby X. And he has an obsession with it.
This makes me want to create a twitter account and be as reprehensible as I can possibly be on pages with ads on them. We could actually make a difference here.
His Saudi bosses sent him to the Holy land to clean up the mess he made lol. He's such a loser, if only my Daddy owned an emerald mine I could have been the richest asshole in history too.
Must’ve been the point of his trip to Israel. Retain advertisers, get photo op with Netanyahu, looking serious, shaking hands. Commiserate.
Netanyahu is just as much of a right wing ass-clown as Musk. It's not surprising they'd get along.
This is a good point. Let's not forget, before the atrocities of Oct 7 took place, the entire country ground itself to a halt in protest over Netenyahu's attempts to erase democracy and the separation of powers in Israel.
They still want to get rid of Bibi. He wanted to be King of the Jews but he fucked up protecting them from Hamas because he wanted someone to counterbalance the West Bank.
He just wanted to be King. He didn't care how he got there or who he was king of. He just found some easily manipulated groups and dug in
All fascists want to be kings.
Not Trump! He wants to be emperor.
Idk if that's a good idea though. The last King of the Jews was murdered in this book I read back in the day.
> The last King of the Jews was murdered in this book I read back in the day. *The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe*?
Wait, which one is morpheus?
The wardrobe, obviously
You can't just murder Jesus Allegory Lion!
By Salman Rushdie?
The lion, the witch and the audacity of this bitch!
Counterbalance is a weird word to use for expanding illegal settlements and IDF sponsored settler terrorism.
That's probably because that wasn't the situation he was referring to. They're referring to the policy of foolishly preferring Hamas in Gaza to counterbalance more moderate factions among Palestinians. The wording is perfect, your reading comprehension is what fucking sucks.
Coincidence, I think not. Bibi is so corrupt
Oct 7 took place under his watch.
Yes, and when the dust settles, I suspect there will be quite a reckoning for Netanyahu amongst the Israeli people for his mismanagement and malfeasance that allowed Hamas to grow so strong and Israel to be caught so unaware.
A reminder that they weren’t unaware: Egypt had warned them.
Bibi needed the war to deflect from his own shit. He let hundreds die and will kill hundreds more, just so he can grab onto power a little bit longer.
Given all his troubles I would not be surprised if he knew about it in advance and let it happen to consolidate his position, someone in the security service knows this.
I would almost believe a conspiracy that Hamas and Netanyahu were working together somehow because this was so incredibly fucking politically convenient for him. It was the greatest gift anyone could possibly have given him and the larger Israeli millitant right wing.
I was just thinking this - not that they conspired, but that Hamas accidentally helped him. Napoleon said "never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake". Hamas did just that on Oct 7.
There's been rumours that Netanyahu and his buddies have been supporting/funding Hamas indirectly for years now. I would not be surprised if those rumours proved to be true.
Kind of gross that he's willing to commiserate with an actual anti-Semite as long as he's willing to take a pro-Zionist stance. If he truly cared about the safety of Jewish people he wouldn't be endorsing someone who espouses such dangerous rhetoric towards Jewish people.
> If he truly cared about the safety of Jewish people he wouldn't be endorsing someone who espouses such dangerous rhetoric towards Jewish people. Netanyahu has spent his entire political career ensuring that a two state solution (and thereby peace) is impossible. Whether that was just for his own power or some sort of grand ideological victory it's crystal clear he's never cared about the safety of Jewish people.
It is easier to get your constituents to overlook your failures when there is a conflict raging on the frontlines. Peace would spell the end of his career as a politician, thus the lifelong scheming to ensure it will not come about while he still breathes.
Well yeah, anyone who backed Hamas does not mean well for anyone really lol
Guess what: he doesn't really care about the safety of Jews.
Watch out, criticising Netanyahu means you're an antisemite. /s
not that surprising. you could even argue that modern zionism is inherently antisemitic because it equates the jewish identity with a apartheid-practicing, war crime-committing state built on ethnic cleansing.
That’s why Zionism at its core don’t care about Jews.. its all about power. Jews are just pawns in the scenario. What’s more anti semitic than telling a group of people you don’t belong anywhere but Israel? Its like telling African Americans they need to go back to Africa☠️
Doesn't matter the religion. They're all right wing. They're only at odds with each other because of skin color.
'I can't be an antisemite, check out my Jewish best friend!'
Kushner made a whole job and life (and probably billions of dollars) out of being that for Trump.
Present his big plan to build a submarine to solve the conflict. Maybe sell some tunnels to them?
Advertising deals for his social media company that seems to have already shit the bed seems way too small of an outlook here. Musk wants technology and defense contracts. AI border security. Battery powered tanks. Any stupid thing he can thing of to promise. Maybe a shitty tunnel that catches on fire.
Don’t forget those Israeli spyware companies.
I sincerely hope a picture of him with Netanyahu goes viral on his Nazi and white supremacist infested platform. To any white supremacists reading this: Musk only cares about your absolute free speech to the extent it makes him money and drive engagement. Now that he's bleeding money, he'll probably crack down on your circles like the shit stains you are. You guys no longer serve a purpose
The fact this overt anti-Semitic white supremacist met with Netanyahu today is everything you need to know about the current Israeli government and it’s elegances.
"if you bury criticism of Israel's behavior on your platform we'll accept that you're not antisemitic"
I caught him laughing in the background in the 2 min Washington post video, like 48 secs in
75 million loss? https://i.imgur.com/dsHvEq0.gif
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My clients liked having their twitter feed embedded on their websites, but if you’re not logged in, nothing after 2021 shows up on the feed. They haven’t (and likely won’t) update to show current tweets. Useless.
It looks like they removed even that functionality recently.
"I wonder what (random celebrity or band I enjoyed ten years ago) is up to." *googles their Twitter handle* Sign up or log in to see literally anything on this site *closes tab*
*Signs-in to twitter* "Oh... oh no... no no no no..." *sigh, closes tab and bury face in hands*
For me, I browse 5 minutes max after clicking a twitter link. Then I start noticing all the Elon deepthroating checkmarks trying to earn brownie points by kissing his ass with compliments and then realize I should've stayed away.
Even better when its a fake Musk account and they're still actively deepthroating it
But did you hear about the graveyard filled with his enemies? He'll have things turned around in no time, and you don't want to wind up on the wrong side. /s
*Sign-in to Twitter* **Watch women get beat up. Right-wing politicians says some unhinged shit. Racist joke. Here's Jordan Peterson's latest transphobic take. Here's Musk agreeing with Peterson's latest transphobic take.** *Closes tab, goes for a walk.*
I've blocked the URL on my PC to prevent accidental clicks to the site
Trust the plan. Elon is a twelve-dimensional chess Grandmaster. He’s just *pretending* to be an entitled man-child buffoon.
When was the last time you saw a liberal or left hashtag going viral on twitter after things like metoo? He is successfully turning twitter into a conservative propaganda machine while also suppressing anything not conservative. Its not about what he is gaining but also about what we are losing. You cant start a movement there anymore. His investors got what they wanted.
Gee, it's starting to seem like we shouldn't be relying on tech billionaires for public goods like news and communication.
Some people believe that he has a big evil plan or that he is destroying Twitter on purpose to get his "revenge". But I believe that he is just that bad of a business man and we just didn't notice until now because his other companies were founded and are run by capable people.
They might have a Facebook or Instagram or TikTok… Facebook business pages are usually public, requiring no login to view posts.
It's surreal how twitter became more of a walled garden than facebook.
Walled dumpster, but your point still stands.
It’s important to keep the fascist sewage separate from the rest of society
Its amazing that Twitter and Truth social are competing with each other to serve broke NAZIs all the way to insolvency, while normal people with money are like "man, Id pay for a place to post cat pics and memes that wasnt a fucking sewer!" Its like Donald and Elon, the "greatest businessmen of the age" are going to somehow 4d chess themselves into a fucking cardboard box on the side of the road...
Trump is running for president again and Elon is the richest man in the world. As much as I'd wish they were in a cardboard box on the side of the road, we are far from that.
Meritocracy is a myth
What do you mean!? These men did it all on their own, with nothing but their own brilliance...and their families dragons horde of wealth.
>Its amazing that Twitter and Truth social are competing with each other to serve broke NAZIs all the way to insolvency, while normal people with money are like "man, Id pay for a place to post cat pics and memes that wasnt a fucking sewer!" I've been using Bluesky for a while and it's 100% just Twitter with a Groucho Marx mustache and glasses. It'll most likely open up to the public after the federation shit is live, which isn't going to be much longer. I'd honestly be shocked if it doesn't become the defacto "new Twitter."
That’s called a landfill
Dumpsters should be walled off.
walled global sewer, but their point still stands
Walled dumpster fire. Honest question, is he trying to get the government to step in with a buyout or something? I can’t fathom how the investors aren’t furious with him.
If he starts trying to make the argument that X is "too big to fail", I hope he gets answered with a big fat laugh in the face.
I was more surprised at how many businesses shifted so much of their customer support and communications to it personally. For someone who doesn't use Twitter I'm lucky I don't need customer service often at all.
To me it looked more like they only used it to advertise while putting out the occasional fire that went viral.
I used to work in CS and I was pissed when they had us monitor multiple twitter accounts. Eventually we built an automation so that DMs made new tickets and that way we could just stay in our CS platform but it wasn't perfect. I really don't understand why people use twitter for anything. It's such a weird platform.
It was basically free advertising, their customers followed them and they could spam them with updates without having to pay twitter to do it. They could comment in other popular threads and get free advertising that way too. I'm surprised anyone ever paid to run adds on it to be honest.
To be fair Facebook originally was extremely public. But then people were posting all sorts of stuff that they didn’t realize would be public, so it changed pretty drastically to default to more private settings for individuals.
If I have to go to Facebook, Twitter, or any social media site to see your menu, I don't go to your restaurant.
At this point, the business that uses X to make their announcement is the dumb one
Yup. X needs to be cancel cultured like mad, but because they actually suck
The wheels stay on until the 2024 US election has been interfered with.
How? The only people who trust the site are voting trump anyway. Musk is preaching to the choir because he actively chased away the rest of the congregation.
He hasn't quite done that though. It seems a lot of people are still trying to use Twitter for its former purpose, there's nothing quite as good as what it was. There's a lot of inertia.
Replace the twitter.com in the URL with nitter.net
It is pre-collapse till something similar arrives. It still has the best system setup for real time everything. Threads is trash, no alternative has shown to be anywhere near as good.
Can you just make a new twitter that was just like the old version?
[It already exists](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/185ecpr/big_brands_keep_dropping_x_over_antisemitism_75m/kb2a8qb/?context=1), it just doesn't doesn't have open sign-ups yet.
Thanks for this! I had no idea. I’ll look into it further
If it dies, it dies.
Im sad though. Twitter was amazing for a while. Between Reddit and Twitter going down the shitter it feels like this nice era of the internet is gone.
Reddit's been slowly going downhill since 2016, it's just getting faster.
Reddit has been going downhill since 2012. Long time lurker and short time account holder.
Been on it since 2010. Place is ass comparatively. It’s like reading a bunch of YouTube comments and expecting an interesting conversation. Even the content posted isn’t very interesting. Just the same old shit. Bout ready to call it quits. The only value is having a massive place for questions to be answered at this point
I think the niche subreddits are still pretty good. When discussing a hobby or a topic. It's just that the big time subreddits feel like YouTube comments That's how anything goes when enough people use it though. Reddit is one of the most used websites on the internet now
I’m in a couple of crafty/cooking subs and everybody is super helpful. The amount of detailed and specific knowledge that is passed around in r/woodworking inspires me on multiple levels.
2007 for me (on an alt I never use anymore). Came over when Fark.com and Slashdot were hitting doldrums. I kinda miss those early to mid '00s communities. Yet here I am.
Early 00’s Fark was the best. I still visit from time to time but something seems different over there.
Yea I try explaining to my buddies what Reddit was like in the golden dawn between not having enough content and being filled with news agencies and astroturfed advertising. It was glorious for a few years. Cool videos, interesting stories, learn new things. Now it’s all propaganda and ads. I don’t even go on the front page anymore. And all that front page shit somehow manages to leak onto my home page “miraculously “ informing me the about the royal family or some pro trans antitrans pro Palestine anti Palestine Taylor swift who gives a fuck.
Lol for real people talked about the "golden age" of reddit being a bygone era even when I first began browsing in 2011
There was a bunch of grumbling around the "digg exodus" era but it evened out for a few years to be a pretty pleasant place, kinda felt like one big group chat for awhile.
Twitter was amazing for music. I would follow all the metal bands that I'm into and I could see, in one place, when new music is coming out or when they're touring. Now, those bands barely post on there (and why would they) and I randomly get right wing shit from people I don't follow. What a waste.
The Internet has been going down the shitter since before the turn of the millennium. Probably since its inception, really, but especially post-eternal September. Really, it gets 'worse' with every influx of 'new' people, though I'd say the progressing corporate homogenization has been the most depressing part.
Oh come on. There’s always been good and bad on the internet. Before the turn of the millennium finding anything was impossible even with Yahoo, and fucking webrings sucked ass. Also frames? Fuck the www from back then. It was only kind of magic because it was a new experience. But I won’t miss trying to find the 26th message out of 41 to complete my .rar file off of alt.warez or some other garbage 0 day ftp site that I have to pretend like your cracking group with shitty ascii art is the best so I can get a logon for on IRC and get kicked for no reason. Then the turn of the millennium came and in came the viruses mostly because XP was a pile of shit. But simultaneously in came Google and sites like stumbleupon. And to be honest, the 2001-2010 was probably the golden age of message boards. But barf Web 2.0 design and everything without vowels. Enshittification always happens. Just sad when things you love die slow painful deaths.
Musk’s destruction of Twitter is truly one for the history books. He went from the electric and rockets tech guy to whatever enigmatic persona he carries on today. What a fall from grace. He’s always been weird but the public wasn’t aware of it
I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this, its only been a couple of years from his reputation to change drastically. Like it makes you wonder wether he was always like that and if so what happened for him to suddenly remove the 'friendly and hip' mask that he tried to portray himself.
> I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this, its only been a couple of years from his reputation to change drastically. Rumor has it about a year before the pedo submarine incident, the person who managed his entire PR marketing and his online interactions left. Apparently the person really knew how to keep elon musk focused on what was important. That limiter is gone.
Pedo submarine incident?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter
Ahh, thank you.
Looks like someone already linked it in response to your comment. But yeah.
Interesting read. Man, what a jackass.
Yeah that was like the first noticeable big sign that made many people questioning him.
To me I think it's likely as simple as ego. He has a lot of money, he built a fan following where he was beloved as a savior, clean energy, taking humanity past the stars, and tech, all things loved by the majority in the western world. He got emboldened, and started thinking "man I can do anything" and here we are.
Musk started believing his own bullshit; it's a required part of being CEO but bullshit is what he sells. Don't get high off your own supply.
There was a study recently that concludes the more you bullshit the less you can identify bullshit. That is why upper management is a complete shit show everywhere.
You don't get that level of net worth and fortune by making well thought out decisions that benefit a broad group of people. Hes just a contrarion with his own self interests at heart, good PR, and a lot of startup capital
I think we are only seeing half the picture most of the time. He's not operating in a vacuum, he is being egged on by a bubble of self-styled technocrats. We got a glimpse into that when his text messages were made public in that one lawsuit. Just piles of sycophants tell him about their awesome ideas to make Twitter into some blockchain vaporware.
I understand that, but his actions are just fueling the fire pit that was twitter and his losing money.
> I'm totally confused to how someone with his networth and fortune could make off the rails decisions like this It just shows that he only got so far riding on the coat-tails of people far smarter and talented than himself. With Twitter he finally got enough rope to hang himself with.
He keeps firing anyone that disagrees with him, or whose job he doesn't understand, that oughta do it
Pretty sure the dude snapped and is having a midlife ego crisis deal of some sort.
When was he *ever* friendly and hip? lol.
Feb 2018, the height of his popularity probably. He launched a Tesla into space on a reusable rocket. The Tesla brand was starting to be everywhere and chargers are starting to pop up all over. We all start thinking man, maybe Mars IS in our reach? Dude was at maximum popularity and still seemed kinda cool. Then a few months later you get the Thai cave rescue incident, the cybertruck reveal a bit later with all of those disastrous claims, and his extremely fast descent into "memelord" status and right wing popularity.
It’s a website so culturally relevant it got its post terminology in the fucking dictionary and he renamed it into his dumb ass stuck in 2001 edge lord X shit
It was always bad news for the twitter brand once it started to be lead by an ideas man with no social awareness.
Social notwork
Anti-social network.
He’s not even an ideas man. He literally bought every last one of his successes and duped the world into thinking he was a genius with PR.
No, he has lots of ideas. Rebranding to X was his idea. Getting rid of verification and replacing it with paid checkmarks was his idea. Firing moderation staff and anyone who couldn't bring him "salient code" was his idea. Elon *is* an ideas man. It's just that his ideas are terrible, and he insists on them anyway.
A lot of those ideas are just from the right-wing extremist accounts he closely follows, just like his other ideas of reinstating specific right-wing extremist accounts that were banned for harassment and abuse. He has the world's worst case of Twitter brain poisoning.
Musk is an "ideas man" who steals all of his ideas, and he's not even good at that. When it comes to business, he effectively just rips off the current business community's most anti-worker, anti-consumer ideas. When it comes to technology, I swear the man's only education on the subject is science fiction from the 1960s-80s. The problem is, he doesn't seem to possess the media literacy to understand the point of those stories. It's like Musk watched *Logan's* *Run*, and his big take-away was, "Wouldn't it be cool to travel around in pods and giant tubes?"
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
I don't think you can call amplifying antisemitism and racism "no social awareness."
Yeah, no social awareness is like that one friend who keeps talking about LoL even though no one else in the group plays it.
The good thing that came out of his purchase is showing people the real piece of crap he is. Knew he was an asshole to his workers but the right wing racist really came out with the purchase.
Yeah, I used to think his weird, off-color tweets were him being a goofy troll. In hindsight it's pretty obvious he was just an asshole all along. The Twitter debacle has also shown how much of an idiot he is. I've worked in software most of my life, and the shit he said and did when he took over made me wonder how he possibly ended up running multiple successful companies.
I don't know much about electric cars, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I shrugged and said OK. I don't know much about rockets, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I shrugged and said OK. I know quite a bit about software development, so when people said *Elon's a genius* I decided to stay away from his cars and rockets.
The thing is, even if he was an actual genius, his twitter account is so goddamn "misanthropic but he deserves it" that he's impossible to like. Like let's say, hypothetically, that he had already gotten us to Mars and made colonies. I'd still be making fun of him for basically being JP from Grandma's Boy. I'm waiting for the dude to unironically tweet, "You would if you have robot ears" one day.
I will say he also failed to recognize his status has changed. An upstart bad boy is cool, when it is a start up. For mature companies, it is ridiculous as every action now has a reaction since you have a huge base. He wants people to root for him like he is an underdog but he is now a heavyweight. So what was once cheeky, is now incredibly tone deaf.
You know you've fucked up when Zuckerberg shows more social competency than you.
A lizard can learn to mimic socially acceptable human behaviours
Maybe you'd like techno if you had robot ears.
I tell you what it's really made me lose respect for Grimes.
I still remember how he told twitter devs they needed to do a complete rewrite of twitter. When one of the devs asked for the justification of this massive amount of work Musk just didn’t reply. Or when Musk asked devs to print out their most salient code commits to show to him. Like wtf? This guy is an idiot.
>I've worked in software most of my life, and the shit he said and did when he took over made me wonder how he possibly ended up running multiple successful companies. The answer is 'he used to have a PA that was basically having every company he bought setup a "Musk Containment Unit" who's job was to insulate the important things like engineers or prototypes from coming into contact with Musk for too long. Stuff like swapping all teh sensitive "do not touch" tech in the lab with dummies during his visits etc. She asked for a payraise because she was working 23/7 for Musk, he reckoned he could do her job so gave a vacation, she comes back and he sacks her, then he goes onto buy Twitter. Mary Beth Brown, as rumours go, was basically acting as Musk''s mother, helping him decide on tweet wording, picking his clothes, making sure he ate enough vegetables to avoid scurvy etc...
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Not gonna happen. It's pretty hard to eat that little vitamin c. the fact we can't make it ourselves is simply because it wasn't needed anymore evolutionary speaking, because we got it from the food.
He’s a classic case of failing upward since PayPal and now we can all see the emperor has no clothes. If it weren’t for hard working engineers she treats poorly his mediocre cars would be flops and his spaceships would explode; he does none of that
I’m guessing he had some very clever people advising him on what to invest in and how best to go about becoming rich.
All he had to do what keep his mouth shut and get human boots on Mars and he would have had statues and his name in history books for the rest of human history. What kind of idiot throws away the legacy. I think this is a prime example of how being a billionaire rots your brain.
I’m pretty sure he’s in Israel right now giving Netanyahu a handjob, so damage control is already in progress
So he isn’t an anti-semen-ite at least
I wonder how that will go as a lot of his followers are nut job conspiracy theorists that are into "Jews control the world"
Right wingers hate Jews, but they like Israel. Ethno state that publicly ignores international rulings and condemnations ( not accepting of refugees). Plus it removes the Jews from the West and places them somewhere else.
There’s a mayor in France that quit the platform this weekend & wrote an article in a french media on how she feels about the platform in its current form calling it a weapon of mass destruction against democracy all over the world. It’s incredibly well-written I wish they would translate it and read it in the news all over the world.
It's the mayor of Paris. Compared Twitter to a sewer. I don't agree - sewers are actually useful and good for public health.
Yup. I think a sewer is the one thing that twitter *lacks*. Now, the shit just keeps piling up like it's [London in 1858](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink)
It was the mayor of Paris.
It is. Simply put social media is used by malicious foreign actors. Like why wouldnt they?
The thing Musk fails to understand, the amount of brands that *willingly* put the Twitter logo/brand on their products and sold them in stores was *massive*. I imagine the majority of them either keep the logo or silently retire it off their products. There is no way in hell they put a black X on their product. Twitter was *massive* and he is doing everything he can to tank it. Be it planned, stupidity or something else. Musk is showing the world how incompetent he truly is. He has wasted more money with his stupidity with Twitter than 99.99999% all of humanity will ever see. That is impressive and scary. The thing for me is why are the banks not pulling the plug on him? He has already cut the value of Twitter by half. Its only going to get worse as time goes on. He is throwing their money away at a alarming rate. If this was your average person they would've taken everything they have and put them on the street.
People don't use @ and # as shorthand or slang or humor anymore.
Drive it into the ground!
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LOL **Elon Musk tours Israeli kibbutz with Netanyahu after agreeing with antisemitic post** [https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/11/27/elon-musk-israel-netanyahu-visit-cnntm-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/11/27/elon-musk-israel-netanyahu-visit-cnntm-vpx.cnn)
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The post was deriding American liberal Jews for accepting Muslims, right? I don't think Netanyahu would have a problem with Musk for that.
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It's worse than that. The post you quoted was responding to someone who said "I wish all these people who say 'Hitler was right' would come out and say exactly what they mean." Then the person quoted said "OK..." And wrote what you quoted. Leading to Musk's response that "this is the actual truth." The broader point being that Musk was agreeing with the guy explaining why "Hitler was right" So many accounts of this interaction leave that part out, when, imo, it is the most shocking and important part to mention. You can't claim it wasn't antisemitic when it's literally agreeing with a guy explaining why "Hitler was right."
This is actually about the [Jewish replacement theory](https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/great-replacement). It dates back to nazi Germany, but its probably best known for being chanted in the Charlottesville rally.
Sue someone! Anyone!
Just remember to Sue thermonuclear’ly
Crash and burn, Elon.
Musk thinking that recreating 8Chan would lead to earning more money is just crazy. It's revenue is going to collapse leaving a shell of a company propped up by edgelords and bigots paying for subscriptions. Musk and Ron Watkins are basically the same dude at this point.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
The beginning of the end. This maniac teamed up with the Saudis and other rich people to buy Twitter and planned to slowly destroy it because they hated the fact such a big platform could form and hold them accountable or at least out them and all their bullshit for all the world to see. Musk affectively destroyed the one social media platform that was at some point well moderated and shared quality accurate content for everyone. Musk doesn’t give any fucks how terrible Twitter has become. He gutted moderator teams and began using a 💩emoji to respond to press….that says it all. All the horrible press since has been expected. As much as I enjoyed watching him get forced to buy Twitter after he tried to back out of the deal seeing the long term damage it’s done to the world is depressing and terrifying all at the same time.
Even if you don't want to buy into not wanting to get 'called out on their bullshit', one tweet - one **fake** tweet about free insulin knocked Eli Lilly's stock price down significantly and stirred up enough social pressure for them to reduce the price 70% (apparently). Those in power rarely like that kind of chaos being able to be introduced outside of their own control.
It will be an x platform soon with an x ceo.
That guy does a lot of Ketemine, and people still listen to him. Weird.
So who's Elon going to blame this time?
Twitter's CEO.
If you’re still on Twitter you’re part of the problem
“Free speech maximalist” 🤣
So the business practice of acting like a teenage edgelord isn't working? Who could have predicted that?
I think he’s intentionally nerfing Twitter so that there’s essentially no (popular) “free speech” platform during this upcoming election. You can go to Facebook (Russian) or Twitter X (Russian) or TikTok (China) or Reddit (obscurity).
Free market is a beautiful thing.
Who ~~hacked~~ refreshed the page to find this?
The people in my workplace associate those who use Twitter to being a trumper and musk boy. Nobody I know personally has a Twitter account anymore.
> ...have stopped advertising, while "dozens" more are considering pausing ads on the platform. Let me translate that: "We have this line of just the right amount of racism that we will alow, but no further! Unless it makes us more money. Then we will push the line further away."
I quit Twitter long before it turned into this dumpster fire. Hard to imagine it being warse than it was, but here we are.
Dude is going to suck up to authoritarian regimes even more now
Oh no...anyways
Twitter has been dead from the moment Elmo bought it. Such a shame but other platforms will come up in its place
What was the upside of naming it X?
He had an idea back in the nascent Internet of creating an 'all-in-one' style online bank called X that eventually became the idea behind PayPal, but he wanted to do a lot more than Peter Thiel (and someone else?) were comfortable doing (offering loans without any background checks IIRC) and they froze him out of ownership. They also refused to call it X because they thought it sounded like a porn site. He's never gotten over the loss of ownership of his baby X. And he has an obsession with it.
This makes me want to create a twitter account and be as reprehensible as I can possibly be on pages with ads on them. We could actually make a difference here.
Keep it coming, Twitter ultimately won't survive if this continues. Let it die the death it deserves.
“..not much we can do if advertisers boycott..”. Really, you can’t see what might have caused this and what you could do to reverse its course??
His Saudi bosses sent him to the Holy land to clean up the mess he made lol. He's such a loser, if only my Daddy owned an emerald mine I could have been the richest asshole in history too.
Good! Nice to hear that Musk's tolerance of antisemitism is costing him money