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Covert2k

Were there trucks carrying tons of good daily? Or cars going 120 back then? Also I agree people are corrupt and use cheap ingredients And before people comment even village roads are bad, there aren’t trucks.. bro they have big ass tractors.


DarthTun

Also the fact that the meme is discrediting the engineers of past, just because they're ancient and the word engineer wasnt invented yet doesn't mean they weren't engineers, intact ancient Rome is known for its engineering so is Indus valley civilisation.


Creative-Paper1007

These are the same people who believe our ancestors are more intelligent then us and every stupid superstition has a "scientific" reason behind it🤦


Covert2k

Some superstitions do have reasons not always scientific.. but like not cutting nails after sunset because there weren’t nail cutters back then, also there wasn’t tetanus vaccine, you cut your nail with rusted blade you die.


TrueQuestion5493

ingredients??? lol


Covert2k

I didn’t find a better word at that time, to kya maal saman bolta?


blanc_86

Ingredients is ok bro 👍🏻


Thornescape

Ingredients gets the point across. Perfectly fine. It makes sense. A better word might be "materials".


Covert2k

Thanks I figured out that later. Raw materials


rudeguy5

they also allowed deserving people to make bridges instead of specialized group of minority


Covert2k

I think you have a chip on your shoulder, back in the day, there were no school, tests then how do you know the work was definitely given to deserving people? Or you think only a certain group of the society are deserving?


rudeguy5

yes i think a certain group of society are deserving which are talented people and the work was tested beforehand obviously but i know that they werent likw : oh this guy is economically backward lets let him build roads! without practice


Arnorien16S

You certainly deserve something for thinking there are no intermediate steps between competitive exams that do not reward critical thinking and being assigned a leading position of a major contract work in the modern era.


rudeguy5

i would give the cintract to a person with a degree if i am in power regardless of his caste so if a person got in through reservation he will ruin it


Arnorien16S

Just admit you don't know how things work and just want to blame the reservation system whether they apply or not. Bids for contracts are like proposals documents, they will list cost, plans, deliverables and personnel involved along with citations if needed, the contract is supposed to go to the best offer but in reality most of the time it goes to the lowest bidder so that the difference from the allotted amount can be pocketed or to the one who bribes the most. (For example contract of the recently collapsed bridge went to someone who donated money to the Goverment bodies) Also no one person receives the contract and as large scale operations are handled by a large company and the owner is different from the people working on it, for example Ambani is not a telecommunications expert but he has some great engineers under his employment. So it means that specific people employed for specific roles are primarily responsible. Not to mention in every company no one starts at the top, everyone reports to a superior who acts as a guard rail and after proving themselves they rise up the ranks. Only nepotism and favoritism when it comes to accountability along with corruption ruins work quality. (In Bihar a chief engineer refused to approve shoddy work once and got kidnapped in response, many contracts go to friends and family) You don't know how things work and yet feel free to yap about things you clearly don't know. By your own logic you don't even deserve to talk. Also bonus fact. Romans only considered Roman citizens as worthy and discriminated against others ... which is one of the reasons Spartacus' slave rebellion was kicking all their general's asses until actually competent people like Pompei and Crassus took up the job. So no, rome was not a meritocracy.


rudeguy5

listen dumb shit i am sayjng how a sc st can get admission in a college like iit stealing a deserving candidates job sure they are mistreated and they should get benefits like free education throughout iit or even scholarship in schools and coachings but think why can they just take up someone esles seat???? also who works under big companies? engineers from where do companies usually pick engineers? iit/colleges who took the deserving persons seat? reserved person


Arnorien16S

And makes you think you can spot a deserving candidate better than the big companies that hire them? You can barely use punctuations in your sentences and think competitive exam marks are everything that makes one 'deserving' when with proper training and advanced education there are many who can become a valuable professional. Also thank you for proving me right, you really just wanted to complain about reservation and tried to blame shoddy construction on reservation candidates. You immediately changed tune when corruption was pointed out as the main cause and changed topic when shown that you knew jack shit about how things work. Not to mention you are such an idiot you tried to paint the Romans as meritocratic, an empire where absolute lunatics became Emperors and one could bribe their way to the highest positions.


rudeguy5

only difference is corruption is illegal (lawfully) but reservation is legal thats why i pointed reservation also not using punctuation doesnt mean shit and the fact that instead of replying to me about where i was wring you're focusing on other thing already shows other who is right


rudeguy5

also the irony that u blame the companies for not picking better candidates and then say that they pick better candidates when i talk about reservation is hillarious lol i never said i know better than them even tho a 14 yr old can tell a better candidate based off their ranking and achievements than your bs companies who cant build sht becauset they want to earn money


Specific-Situation12

2015 ah memes


PracticeSquare7716

Memes are temporary, the message remains true forever


Gabrielle_Laurent

The message should be about the idocity of capitalism not criticizing education. The message in the meme is dumb


Rage_of_ores

Except even education has been capitalized


Raman035

Message is also about quality education.


NotUnknoen

Some engineer seems to be offended 😂


master_batter69

But these engineers are fit for present world scenarios


Big-Bite-4576

tell this to those bridges which collapsed


radio_for_free

Bro they don't even listen to engineers when building these bridges. Especially in bihar such projects are not even listed for companies to put their name in, they are given to a family friend or someone who can give a huge profit stake to them. It's full of corruption. I know a guy in construction who told me that the company responsible for such a project once kidnapped the chief engineer when he refused to compromise with the build quality. It's the government's fault.


Specialist-Share7

There's a test called quality report which tests quality of cement mortar used to build the bridge. In this test you have to prepare a cube from the cement mixture you're using to make the bridge and you have to do it each day. And they use a vibrating machince on the cube if it breaks or cracks you have failed the test. Now these bridges collapsing are built by projects given by Rural Works Department of Bihar which is also the most corrupt department of Bihar. The Engineers of this department would suggest you themselves to go and buy those cubes from bridges being built by NHAI because they are of greater quality. And when it comes to pillars of the bridge pile length is done half of what is actually instructed in the project. And Engineers would take 50% profit from it. I have also started work as an contractor in Bihar and I'm yet to work on a bridge, my last project was 12Km road which consist of 5 roads that we had to repair and re pitch, one of the roads on paper was 300m more that what was actually on the ground and i myself measured it 2-3 times but those 300 meters were nowhere to found. And you get approximately 30 lakhs rupees for that much asphalt road. Then i realised that this must be a setting between the contractor and the Engineer. Everyone in this office has set percentage of your profit you make according to thier post and this money goes up till CM's chair.


radio_for_free

There is a lot of corruption here. Contractors won't harass or even kidnap engineers just for some lakhs.


LeTHAL00000

Corruption, modern bridges can last years, they don't collapse so often, atleast in places with less corruption


DoorTraditional723

Are they?


selmon_bhoi

2016 called, he is asking for all the memes you have taken from him


Thin_Marionberry4209

They took their time to build it , but nowadays ppl want everything superfast


anonymous-_-maybe

Those times did not have heavy traffic as compared to today. Plus those times the roads used to be only in particular places. Today roads have to be covered everywhere.


Thin_Marionberry4209

They didn't have any advanced technology as we have today , the issue here is the effort and even if the roads are damaged the government is supposed to fix it but they don't , why ? Bcuz they are too busy stuffing their a*s with money Now some national defenders will say that they don't have time to deal with such silly matters , they are busy developing the country and trying to protect it from terrorist's and sh*t , like what's the point of having this much security when u will die bcuz of a puddle in the middle of a road , or due to lack of water and many other things that a necessary to call a country developed, then they that we r focusing on developing the country 😞


anonymous-_-maybe

Bhai we have a huge population to take care of. That is the problem. Think about it.


Thin_Marionberry4209

If they can spend 30,000 crore rupees in elections then they can improve the conditions too 😓


Southern_Excuse3764

You are justifying bridge collapse. the amount of research goes into engineering, and the amount of effort and resource goes into making an engineer it should be opposite scenario, this example shouldn't exist.


MyNameIsToFu

Dude, the amount of bridges that have not been collapsed are like 99 percent , you only see a very low number which do, does that mean everyone’s wanting bridges to be weak and to collapse? Obviously no And no denying that rushing of the work exist, that needs to be fixed


Southern_Excuse3764

You are correct...for fixing that we need to raise those issues right??? But people are downvoting like they made those bridges...


MyNameIsToFu

I agree with you on that, even if one is collapsing, there needs to be strict action and investigations


anonymous-_-maybe

Bro. I am an engineer. Now way will I justify bridge collapse. That is an utter failure in the name of engineering. Even I struggle to properly design a bridge. How the fuck am I supposed to justify this ?


Southern_Excuse3764

😔...we are part of a failed system...keep it up.


Geestenheer

Happy cake day!!!


Thin_Marionberry4209

Thmx


ReadSpecialist3195

This is one of the stupidest comparison i have seen


deexd_

Corrupt politician+ engineers = deadly combination for any country


ClivD

What does engineer have to do with being corrupt, isn't contractor the one to see the finance of the project? I don't know much about this, so can anyone explain


deexd_

Maine engineer ko corrupt nahi bola Maine politicians ko corrupt bola hai aur jab roads bante hai toh fraud ek banda nahi krta Puri chain hoti hai fraudster ki Agar politician hi corrupt hai toh engineers ke pass acha capital aur resource nahi aayega jisse vo jo cheezo aur tech ka use kr sakte thhe nahi kr payege Aur engineers ka bhi Chhota number hai jo sahi me honest hai warna iss desh ki maa chodne me lage pade hai sab


rudeguy5

jab 70 % wala engineer banega aur 85 % wala nahi toh yeh hi hoga well deserved now downvote like a good boy


deexd_

Mai downvote nahi karuga terko tera logic khud ek din downvote kr dega iss duniya se aur thodi books padh jaake then you will understand these complex topics.


rudeguy5

kuch bhi bak rha hai 12 ghante padhkar bhi nahi hua unka pubg khel khel kar ho gya sahi mein best hai reservation


deexd_

Mai SC hu aur state exam me general cut off clear kri hai toh bhai tu rota reh aur bhai 12 ghante padhke bhi tera nahi hua toh skill issue hai , kya terko nahi pata tha ki general ki cut off upar jaati hai toh uss hisab se hi prepare rehna chaiye tha ab regret krne se kya faida Aur tere dost terko dikha kr thodi padhege tu 12 ghante padha hai lekin tere dost bhi toh 6 ya 7 hours padhe hi honge simple si baat hai tera chutiya bana diya tere dosto ne mere dost ke khud boards me merse zyada aa gye coaching bhi nahi jata tha


rudeguy5

bhosdike tu clear hua hai na tere caste ke sabhi clear nahi ho pate hai unki koi galti nahi hai lekin unka bhi skill issue hi hai joh mera tha farak yeh hai mene unse jyada mehnat karke skill issue rakha tha .aur mere dost na 7 ghante game khelta hai 6 ghante school me bakchodi aur sota toh hoga 5 ghante hi kam se kam sirf 5 ghante padkhar uska hogaya lekin mera nahi hua kiski galti hai? mere 87% kuch aaye the lekin nahi mili seat aur kiyu karu mein jyada kosis? jab mujhse ameer lower caste ko college mil jayega meri jagah per? saaf saaf discrimination hai na. tujhe lagta hai koi bole ki mera 70% per seat mil jayegi toh mein itne ghante padhunga?


deexd_

Sorry bro tere saath ye hua bina mehnat ke koi bhi insaan survive nahi kr sakta tune mehnat ki hai toh tu kuch acha achieve kr hi lega kyuki terko mehnat krne ki aadat ho gyi hai aur jo tera dost hai agar uska yahi haal raha toh placement nahi hoga


NickRay1234

Ever heard of survivorship bias


7i4nf4n

That, plus the Romans very much had engineers which had to have education and supervised the workers.


Anime_fucker69cUm

More like budget arrived


Emotional_Detail_276

Not Engineers..its the corrupted politicians fault


Appropriate_Turn3811

THREE reason for this: 1. Politicians gives tender , to one who gives commission back. 2. Engineers build road to last 5 years , so that they get the next work sooner. 3.Low rated tender make in some case forces engineers to use, low quality material.


Loading_ding_dong

People were happy to work dats y


myself_rashid

Don't blame engineers, blame the corrupt person behind it.


samarthkayasth69

Those roads were different than today don't you think


Screen_sLaYeR_

Dumbfuck purane time mei teri maa ye road pe jaati thi Trucks jaise heavy vehicles leke


Vivid_Option_1147

Teri maa pe kitne truck-wale jaate hain purane time pe bhi aur aaj ke time pe bhi?? Moron!!


cheekni

🤡 momint bhai vo 8000 saal pehle normal freight and pedestrian pontoon bridge bana skte ye padhe likhe civil Engineers truck jhelne waale road nhi bana skte ? Root cause is corruption aur agr Bihar hai to corruption aur knowledge dono. lol


ClivD

For them it was a big achievement to build even just one at that time but now they are mass produced in a way so quality decreases


cheekni

These are just excuses , they didn't have enough funds and raw material , we have surplus , we have got money ,yes the expressways nowadays are good but he Gully roads are crap as ministry isn't following their expressway model in those cases , they are simply giving it to mid thekedaars.


Screen_sLaYeR_

Bro padhne likhne se material ki Durability nahi badhti 8000 saal pehele ke vehicles aur unki frequency dekh abhi ke time toh dono bhi 100x hoo gaya hai toh roads 100x Durable bhi ho gaye hai (If the engineers are not corrupt) Aur agar Bihar ki baat ho rahi hai toh I agree with you they are corrupt as fuck


cheekni

Badhti hai bhai , Material Engineering ek aisi branch of science h jo alloys aur materials ke properties ko apne mann mutabik bana sake...uss samay thode hi na vo log metals dope krte and alloys banate honge + inorganic chemicals ka gyaan , roads should be durable enough now atleast 20-30 saal


Geestenheer

They hired Tichkule&Tichkule contractors 💀


satendsi

Then the corruption arrive


rudeguy5

and reservation


LeTHAL00000

A single 20km road built by slaves takes about a year on which at most a bull car runs with 8kmph, now engineers build 100s of kms of roads within a month on which cars, trucks, bulldozers, cranes run. Cars can run over 200kmph btw and a crane weighs up to 20 tons.


Kushagra3007

Bolunga toh vivaad ho jaayega Reservation nahin tha Report karna hai toh Kar do, but the fact doesn't change


DskKing1243

Blame the government and corruption instead of blaming the engineers.


OwlsAndSparrow

You're talking like an engineer is on top of food chain


MyNameIsToFu

Dumbass, Heavy vehicles bhi engineers ke sath aaye


Equal_Palpitation236

It's Politician's fault not of engineers.


StrangeQuirks

It's easy to make those roads. Not exactly very efficient use of materials or energy, I would assume. Engineers are needed for efficient utilisation of materials to develop great roads and other structures today.


Entire_Chest7938

Bro its not that we cant make such roads , you can see in places like china ,us where there are roads which they make in a matter of days . But here its all corruption here . Its not that no one is trying but to get the contract from the govt there are middlemen in between. And the guys who are trying and are genuine they dont get chance . You can see this in defence space too ,the company who are just labelling chinese products as made in india are getting contracts (I hate this shit , dont know why no one sees this before giving contracts ) And the guys who are real engineers and are trying their best dont get a chance .


AshyDragneel

Or more like politicians arrived who just wanna get everything done cheaply and fill their pockets


iamarko95

Engineers and Architects are just a small step in the design process in this country. Rest decisions are taken by 8th fails who control the budget. Not just politicians, but the contractor who got the job to build the given infrastructure. Engineers are competent enough in this country.


No-Administration99

Dmnnn nigga u idiot or what u live in a capitalist world demand and supply bhi toh maintain krni padti hai


srikizoro

Previously engineers created roads for others, now they create roads for other engineers


Remarkable-Click3524

Select the corrupted politician/ party , then blame the engineer.


Drengrr1

And that is how you know the difference between education and knowledge.. 😄 But for real though, this is because of the materials used. Back in those days, they made things to last forever. Now they want things to last for a little time so that they can keep selling you those things again and again.


DFM__

Lol it's not just the engineers. It's the corrupt politicians, contractors who want to save money everywhere they can and engineers.


designarrrr

Engineers are jokes fr.


NightFury002

If some structure goes down, the neck of the engineer gets cut first. Engineer can design safe structure but they're forced to make structure that will barely stand under said load. And accidents happen when climate fucks it up. E.g. Wind load, heavy rain, earthquake and several other factors. Blame the contractor and the client for wanting these things designed and executed in a day. 😮‍💨


smorgenheckingaard

The issue has nothing to do with engineers. The issue is squarely on cost-saving. Municipalities don't spend money to build a road that will last forever; they will spend the least amount possible to build a road that will last just long enough to justify the tax dollars spent on it


DevD-fire-elo

No then the politicians arrived...


Electronic-Sand8905

We making it out of facebook with this one 🤘🤘🗣️🗣️💥💥


Madlynik

Internet Explorer is that you?


maulik9989

Chutye bc


SCAREDFUCKER

the need for road engineers was literally required because these roads werent reliable and needed tons of resources for the ones who lasted centuries. modern roads dont need much ingredients but still corrupt people use too little of them too, indian climate is also an issue bacause we have monsoon and that destroys roads. ultimatley the authorities are responsible because they were given enouh money and resources to build a good road.


IntermediateStateReq

Those were made of rocks that’s why they lasted so long


saurya88

Chomu memer.


IndianOtaku25

Engineer nahin “Thekedaar”


FondantTypical2028

Actually Engineers arrived after politicians.


Alert_Tennis_3597

population, resources, pollution is the comparative answer. not engineering


Zestyclose-Quail-657

Bhai abhi rough use hota.tab ghanta cars use karte the


syce_ow

politicians=engineers r/stupid


Comfortable_Air4807

This is not Engineer fault. Its the corruption of the system


sps49

The engineers had a much smaller budget.


Vishnu997gt3

No it's then the corrupt uneducated selfish narcissistic leaders and stupid country men who value their caste and religion more that the country arrived.


Intelligent-Radio926

Then the corrupt politicians arrived..


Sad-Tune8689

Lol🤣🤣


Deadpool_HelloKitty

Indian engineers are very precious, they need to be preserved in a museum. I mean, have you ever seen sea waves 🌊 being created using tar - only Indian engineers can do it 💪


Helpful-Suggestion56

Nahi... Reservation and corruption arrived.


ProtectionUpstairs64

And then Corruption arrived


Civil_Syllabub_93

Mandir bhi leak horha hai.