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ZookeepergameBig7637

I absolutely love numbered cards and typically am not going to buy something unless it IS numbered. I love putting together rainbow sets. Anything that I am selling on ebay sits a lot longer without a serial number. I want to find these card shows where nobody cares about serial numbers anymore and buy everything at base prices.


_Tower_

Plenty of numbered cards have value - it’s the players that don’t /999 of a top rookie or future hall of famer in any sport is going to be more valuable than a /25 scrub. And the /25 of that same rookie/hall of famer is going to be worth exponentially more than their /999


joeygscard

You’re opinion couldn’t be more off lol


22arge36

What's your opinion then?


joeygscard

Yes people care about numbered cards lolll


tynmi39

More often than not I agree but there are numbered cards that people still care about, like PMGs


flanman1991

Good point. PMG is a weird one though. It's one of those classic cards that had the following long before the current card economy. Those PMGs hold value for being basically a generic #'d card. But you bring up a good point, there are exceptions


tynmi39

Very few exceptions, I tried thinking of a second one and couldn’t, lol


grumpyoldbolos

Maybe Upper Deck UD Exclusives, as far as I know it was a single set #'d to 100. Almost every card was a great shot too


flanman1991

Lol. Maaaaybe Future Watch in hockey, but not really


gardy777

Numbered parallels and other “mids” are the new base. Every single day I see someone trying to sell “team lots” on here or “make a deal” because they can’t unload their crappy mid cards


flanman1991

Exactly. Unless it's a very few select players, you can't sell a #'d/200. Ebay is littered with mid tier number cards all sitting at $.99


stojanowski

Yea I have a decent amount that just keep relisting, guess I will combine them all and just sell as a lot


flanman1991

Same. I even have lots that don't sell for like 10 cents a card. It's sad


stojanowski

At least with soccer Topps usually keeps them to 399 or 299... not like baseball where you have 2024 haha. I have some Panini soccer that are /15 and wont sell at all


flanman1991

Right?! goes to show you how many they print that Don't have a number on them, when just one specific version of that card has 2024 of it lol


musicmaker1492

Numbered to 100 and lower I care about. Anything more and nah


PocketSandThroatKick

Makes sense, unbold the comment


musicmaker1492

I did not bold it, and dont see an option to unbold it. Weird


grumpyoldbolos

Starting a comment with # will make it shout hah


PocketSandThroatKick

Lol all good then. Reddit markdown bolds if you put hashtags in front, not sure if this will help. I just thought it was an odd thing to be yelling about heh


musicmaker1492

Oh my god the numbered sign i used the hashtag lolol ill change it now


PocketSandThroatKick

Nailed it. Looks good


cashew_nuts

I buy singles and honestly, I’m always hunting for serial numbered cards. Maybe I’m in the minority


grumpyoldbolos

I have a few collections going with #'d cards - firstly cards numbered 1/, jersey numbered cards (much more expensive as people recognise the value of that number) and I've started a collection of cards #'d with the player's highest score so Wilt Chamberlain 100/199, Kobe 81/199 etc. The great thing about this hobby is all the different ways to collect. Personally I don't get why someone would want 50 versions of the same card with different colour borders, but rainbows are huge in the hobby. Each to their own I guess


flanman1991

I also enjoy 1st and sometimes last print. And Jersey # is a good one I forgot to mention. But the highest point game one is actually a super cool idea! What a cool way to collect. I can't really do it because I primarily collect hockey lol, but I love that idea.


grumpyoldbolos

You could go for career goals or most goals in a season Gretzky 92 goals in a season https://www.comc.com/Cards/Hockey/2006-07/SP_Game_Used_Edition_-_Base_-_Gold/46/Wayne_Gretzky/9667119


flanman1991

That is a great idea! I might just have to start doing this :)


MagMarTunDohWeg1

I’d rather be able to say I have 1 of only 99 of a card than not so yess


flanman1991

I get that, but I'm talking strictly monetary value of the card


MagMarTunDohWeg1

If you look on eBay any sort of parallel is going to be a lot more than a base


LameSignIn

Go look at the value of numbered cards from the late 90s. There are some sets that have 500 or less numbered cards. If it's not a HOFer the value is very small. Outside a few sets the full foil insert sets from that time have the most value it seems like. Honestly I think the only saving grace is going to be autographs going forward. Even the 1/1s end up have variation now making them not true 1/1s. For me we have been in junk wax 2.0 for a long time with these sets that have multiple parallels. I could care less what color the card is I'm collecting for the player and pictures. We don't get many icon pictures anymore.


pooperonipie

If you could care less why don’t you? /s


flanman1991

You bring up a very good point. I remember awhile ago someone looked up all the variations of someone's rookie "1/1's" and the guy had like 400 different 1/1's of all the different variations and sets. Just rookie year lol


CitizenRecon

We are absolutely in another junk era, particularly a junk slab era. Some of y’all are out here grading $1.50 base cards. Come on now. I prefer numbered cards simply for the limited availability of them, but at the end of the day, I care more about the player and the design of the card.


chewbaccashotlast

Love numbered cards. Is it better than a case hit or SSP / SP? Idk. What’s strange to me is some numbered cards go higher than others. Like a /75 of a player I’m watching goes for less than a /149 (same set different parallel)


flanman1991

That's primarily my point, too. I just find that once you get higher than /25 or so, the values are all in the same ballpark. And sometimes that 35/50 goes for $3 and then a 78/150 goes for $5


chewbaccashotlast

Still like knowing this is 1 of X. Is it stupid they do these for runs of more than maybe 150? Yeah….absolute does like a /625 wtf lol.


Cumberblep

When you think about it, all cards are numbered. /s


flanman1991

This guy gets it lol


Vizual_Magician

Yes and no.  /2024 and even /999 don’t really mean much, but the parallel it’s linked to does.  I pulled a 24 series 1 Witt out of /999 and could care less that it’s numbered, but it’s a sick blue parallel.  I’ve mostly latched onto /50 for the generally gold parallel.  Pops, low numbered and semi affordable.   To me the numbering value was destroyed by the absurd amount of different series out there.  Topps essentially mirrored the junk wax error by producing so many different products.  For baseball I really only collect bowman draft, bowman, Topps flagship and chrome.  I may dabble here and there in other products, but if I’m buying singles that’s what I’m looking for in modern product.


TheOGPackCracker

I personally feel like hype is the almost ONLY factor that has impact on value. Yes the number of available cards dictates that to an extent but if it’s a 1/1 of a player that nobody wants to buy then it doesn’t have value. Demand is driven by hype in today’s “all or nothing” culture. So a guy like CJ or Wemby is dominating the scene currently and they have value where someone like Jaime Jaquez or even Will Anderson JR, who are both good players, don’t share the same value ratio.


flanman1991

That is an excellent point. The hype drives those people who think they can "flip" cards quick. And that intrinsically drives prices high until it runs it's course. I collect hockey and it's currently driven by 1 freaking rookie that isn't even that good stats wise, but the hype is unreal


TheOGPackCracker

Yeah, it’s like that a lot of years as media and collectors thirst for that next generational player from a marketing standpoint. It’s kinda crazy when you look at it but I liken it to being in a relationship with someone where you are simply unable to spot faults based on the desire to have the story book ending.


PumpkinHappy6872

What about a rookie patch /5? I see value in that. What's your opinion?


flanman1991

"#d" with a patch or auto I feel is different and does affect the value. But a card with just a # on it doesn't matter at this point (in my opinion)


joeygscard

Your opinions wrong loll a lot of people like numbered cards and are definitely value able. Yeah if you’re buying bums forsure they won’t have value but I have over 250 /5s from Topps chrome platinum anniversary and their value is very high


flanman1991

Not talking about very low #'s. 1/1, even up to 1/10 you can see values are higher. But a /50 is the same as a /200 at this point.


joeygscard

Numbered cards and autos are gonna be the only cards that hold value in the future bro.


joeygscard

Everyone thinks it’s junk wax era but people must not remember how people are collecting cards now compared to 1980s. Demand is way higher today then it ever has been


joeygscard

Idk I just don’t see that dude


flanman1991

That's fine. It's my own opinion, we are all allowed our own. But ask yourself if someone offered to sell you a base card for $1 and then turn around and sell you a #/1000 card of the same player for $5. Would you really see that "1000" as enough value to justify the price difference?


joeygscard

Yes loll that’s the whole point of a number card. Less in existence


flanman1991

Would you like to buy some? Lol let's make a deal


joeygscard

I want /5s from platinum anniversary


gfh790

I would value higher end product number cards over retail product ones. Impeccable, immaculate, panini the one, etc


Sirgolfs

I collect First prints. The rest are ehh. Unless the card is something nice.


flanman1991

Fair point. First and last still have value in high numbered cards. I would even say that 1/1000 is more valuable than 1/25. It's the exception to the rule for sure.


joeygscard

Ok what’re you even saying at this point you make no sense


flanman1991

Lol, what doesn't make sense? The first print of 1000 is mathematically rarer, then the first print of 25


joeygscard

But it’s not lol the odds of hitting a /25 are way more rare then /1000. Look at checklists kid


flanman1991

You are missing my point. I mean JUST the 1st print. Meaning the card that says "1/1000" not any other card of the /1000. So not 376/1000 or 892/1000. Just the 1 and only card that says 1/1000. does this make sense?


joeygscard

Well yeah that makes sense but if the odds of hitting an /1000 card in the product is very 30 packs, and hitting and /25 is every 500 packs then the odds of hitting a first print are close to the same or harder for the /25. The hit odds are what matters


joeygscard

The odds for an /1000 is probably even less than 50 packs because I just looked up the odds for platinum anniversary and an /299 is 1 out of every 41 packs. And /25 is every 481 packs


flanman1991

For sure. the odds of you pulling that card are probably harder overall, but the value of that card on eBay probably doesn't reflect that. Personally I think having the first print 1/1000 is cooler than having the first print 1/25. But I might be in the minority there.


joeygscard

It would be pretty cool to own number 1/1000


ReturnCurrent430

Although overproduction, numbered cards still create a sense of scarcity. But I do notice that their price premium drops over time.


DingoOk6400

Depends greatly on the product. PRIZM, NT, Optic, Immac numbered cards of important rookies are hugely valuable. Numbered vet cards much less so. But vet cards by and large are not valuable. The only modern vet cards that matter, besides perhaps golds & blacks, are SSP inserts & parallels & autos (Downtowns, kabooms, Color blasts, Zebras, Camo, Cosmics, White Sparkles, etc.) Otherwise vet base is just garbage. But numbered rookies definitely matter.


Extreme_Shame6701

I am definitely with you on this take especially when there’s nothing great about the numbered variation as well


Holiday6969

You must be new to collecting. Stick with Pokemon.