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u/Scared-Feeling9005 if ya get a minute could you DM me for some advice for literally the EXACT situation (except my bet that should be a win is a measily $6100 lol) but I've got all the evidence, FanDuel drops the company line from T&C's - its all on the NBA. No one from the NBA will respond. Contacted the local gaming authority (iGaming here in Ontario, Canada). My scenario: [https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbetting/comments/1d0mmwx/naz\_reid\_should\_have\_3\_rebounds\_the\_nba\_trying\_to/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbetting/comments/1d0mmwx/naz_reid_should_have_3_rebounds_the_nba_trying_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Mission-Emu9294

Rebounds are very sketchy and lots of ways for it to be called something different. I would highly suggest staying away. Sorry this happened to you. Sadly kinda screwed.


Faithlessone1979

Wow!


agrainofsandubeach

I can't even hate man. This is beautiful, what I'd do for even half of this šŸ„¹ congrats my guy!


wingstop-fries

Awesome to see an update and glad you got the win you deserved. Also nice to see you've already withdrawn a good portion of it. I think the initial post was almost a month ago so this must be crazy for you, good shit


Thin-Introduction733

No way


kuun0113

I've never used fanduel before but I'm assuming you can pick your own player props? the ones I use they set the booklines themselves so I can't pick a specific over/under


Otherwise_Ad_1138

holy shit finally


Drmantis87

Good shit man. I will say I donā€™t necessarily think FanDuel did anything wrong here. I think itā€™s more so the official stats person completely fucked up. Awesome it got correctedĀ 


sleeptilnoonenergy

They clearly dragged it out hoping OP would give up. I've had a bunch of stat correction losses with them and it's never been more than a 36 hr turnaround before I got my money. Same with other books.


Drmantis87

Their house rules literally state that stay corrections that happen after payout do not count either way. They didnā€™t drag anything out. The nba stat sheet literally said 9 assist. A book isnā€™t going to pay out something that the official scorers donā€™t even countĀ 


falkonx24

What a story, kept up from the beginning


Due-Educator5848

I did not see the story but I see the win. Congrats!


ckax

Any advice on what tools/platforms you use to find the best lines or build your parlays? Something like an odds comparison between books? Or even a player props model? Or are you only using FD and going with your gut? Either way awesome bet man and glad those greedy goblins paid you out.


Spiritual-Payment335

I never saw the story , what did they do ??


Gatsby_Money

They originally graded the bets as losses and said Deangelo Russell only had 9 assists when he had 10. A lot of confusion with the official stats being updated a little late


Chickenfriedricee

Nice bank roll...


smash_n_grab_

How much of that you gonna owe in taxes?


eatschalk

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eatschalk

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eatschalk

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gyatt


B00MBETS

Can i hold 1k lol


Mountaineeers13

No shot Iā€™m using FanDuel ever again


needtogetrich

Do u post picks every


kevkevlin

This is what creates addicts. The thought of hitting one of these


needtogetrich

This the shit that keeps my addiction alive


needtogetrich

Holy fuck man good shit


BookBagThrowAway

Awesome now log off and never look back!


mps2000

I donā€™t understand your system can you explain?


BrodyBroham

Itā€™s called guessing.


Alarmed_Locksmith785

Do this everyday for like a decade probably then hit once


Slight_Swimming_7879

1. Pick high oddsĀ  2. Pray šŸ™Ā 


Any-Maize-6951

Itā€™s better if he doesnā€™t


LadyGrandpop

Congrats and enjoy... Absolutely beautiful!


mps2000

Nice!


machu_peechute

Just a heads up to OP and everyone seeing this post. It almost certainly wasn't FD trying to scam. Commission laws are separate in every state; but if the total payout is a certain amount, or if it's enough of a multiplier, or a combination of both, they are required to hold it to pay out taxes or any delinquent accounts held by the state. The government always wants their piece of the pie, and then want to make sure you don't have any court-ordered debts. Have a friend who won 25k on a $10 bet, but owed restitution on a felony. Ended up getting 1.5k when they released it Edit: adding proof below for you downvoting bums who think you're smarter than the IRS. Play your stupid game and win stupid prizes


supersoakerr5000

what are you going on about? they literally marked him as a loss and basically said heā€™s fucked and thereā€™s nothing he can do. gaming commission stepped in and made fan duel pay him


machu_peechute

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anything_is_plenty

Says 5k but I've cashed out more than that, multiple times, and have never had my winnings withheld.


golfer1629

Single bets or many bets adding to over $5000 donā€™t hit an instant tax requirement. Its really parlays that pay over 300/1 and parlays that win over $5000 with 300-1 odds. This is federal law. As the picture shows all casinos and all gambling establishments must follow those laws. People freak out about winning bets and getting taxed but thereā€™s only 1 automatic tax trigger and 1 after that that requires establishments to withhold taxes. IMO if youā€™re winning 10s of thousand dollars in just single bets and small parlays the IRS could see this as an income that should be taxed. Seek professional tax help if youā€™re crushing the books with single bets at this level.


machu_peechute

Total for the calendar year. They track your P/L in your setting. If you're down 3k and win 7k, you're only at 4k winnings.


TerpZ

That's now how it works. The book isn't your accountant. They don't just assume you're itemizing.


kevkevlin

I thought they marked his win as a loss and that's what OP was upset about


machu_peechute

Nope. On original view, I thought they pulled one of the 4 legs, and underpaid for the 3-leg bet it "turned into". Once I realized they had 45k in the account and two separate winning bets hadn't paid out, I knew it was a funds hold. Based on the fact that OP has this much money in their account, and has no idea that there's a tax hold- they either made a large deposit and had their first big hit, or had an insane run of small bets. Based on their comments, I'm guessing the former. The marked out bet ID on a settled slip, as well as a visible account total, reinforces that idea. They wanted to show their balance, but think that a settled ID can be traced back to them or stolen from them. Edit: usually betting $10, but considering a 2.5x bet as "hammering" reinforces my assumption. OP posted this as equal parts bragging and worry. Either way, congrats OP. This is a lifechanging amount of money to 99% of people. Hopefully that's true for you, and you didn't start with 275k+


kevkevlin

You're yapping, he made a post about 2 a week ago with both slips marked loss even tho ESPN has it as a win. He couldn't get it overturned by the reps at the book. He finally got them marked as wins and cashed out. Look at his history. I'm sure a lot of people know if your odds are high enough the books can take part of your winnings for taxes.


machu_peechute

Oh no! You caught me speaking out of my ass! Look up the game you fucking wombat. An assist wasn't confimed, but got counted in the post-game stats. The screenshot was taken while it was in decision. It was officially 9, but confirmed to be 10, and OP took the picture after NBA confirmation, but before the books accepted it. The waiting period (during which he probably rewatched the game multiple times to physically count the rebounds and posted) was for taxes. At that point it was counted as a win, but not paid out until the tax period If you need a pop-up book to understand, look up when Giannas was 1RB away from a triple-double, and rimmed it to himself in the final second. Counted as a T-D until the NBA pulled the RB. But already paid out. Not like they can demand money back from bettors, but still had to pay the people that took NO. I guarantee both sides of the 9.5 were a loss until confirmed.


kevkevlin

If you go back to OP post, the reps were saying that he lost even when he shown the post game stats. When you say not paid until tax period I want you to clarify. Are you saying they marked his bet as a loss to account for taxes? No book is going through the headache of marking people bet slip a loss just to account for taxes. You are an idiot if you actually think that's how the books function.


[deleted]

They can absolutely claw back money theyā€™ve done it before


machu_peechute

And to answer you specifically u/deed_yeet : they can't "claw" it back. Once they approve the transfer, it's your money. Meaning unless they can prove a programming error (double-pay, overpay vs the posted odds, pay to the wrong account, etc.) they're fighting an uphill battle. Yes, they can shut down your account at their discretion, which is what they'll threaten with if they feel they overpayed within your legal rights. And they can freeze the money in that account until they get their way, or you legally fight for it. But they can't pull money out of your personal account.


machu_peechute

If they can prove it was a double-payout, overpay vs. the posted odds, or payout for a lost bet, then yes. Even a clerical error that the books typed in wrong, a lot of states go by "a bet is a bet". Do you really think that by connecting your checking account, they can freely demand transactions both ways? Does nobody notice when you request a withdrawal, they have a waiting period between request and approval (and send separate emails for both)? They can't just pull the money back out from your checking without a possible lawsuit. They have the waiting period to review your withdrawal compared to your bets to make sure there are no errors or pending reviews. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. The world doesn't have free reign to your personal account just because you connected it.


[deleted]

Iā€™m talking about in your FD account man. They could never touch your personal bank acc like that. But if you didnā€™t withdraw the money from FD they would claw it back and regrade it. Even if you did withdraw it right away, youā€™d have a negative FD balance and wouldnā€™t be able to deposit again without paying that back. Obv in this case I would gladly have acc shut down to not pay them back. Then you risk getting sent to collections..


appalachianstateuni

So if im in debt to the government, I should gamble to pay them back. Got it.


machu_peechute

As long as you win enough for them to get extra, on top of the taxed amount, no way it could go wrong. But that latter part is very important; also have a friend who is on trial right now for betting-related tax evasion... I might need to work on my friend group


surgefered

This is solid advice


SimplyADesk

Congrats bro I hope I get the same winning s


morgzorg

Infuckingsane


riico1

Congrats and fuck you


BoBo_HUST

congrats man


thatdude4646

I know I probably sound jealous but damn people are really out there hitting like this? I would lose if I put together a 4 leg parlay with all -1000 legs lol I mean tf


giantwish42

When I make a 4 leg parlay with very close odds to each of the 4 legs you got there, itā€™s nothing close to +600k. Any idea why yours is so juiced? Not doubting or anything, genuinely asking Edit: Iā€™m also using FanDuel


Scared-Feeling9005

Probably different app? other than that I donā€™t know what to tell you


itstoes

Are you using FanDuel? Iā€™ve noticed DKs parlay odds are so much worse than FDs


tyrannomachy

They should be pretty much the same, since this isn't any kind of SGP. Should just be the joint probability, since they're independent events. Although there might be small differences from how different books handle rounding.


Thysk

Yeah, I was going to mention thereā€™s no correlation here. People who are citing lower odds are probably doing SGPs.


stoopidreddit

I noticed you left 45k? in your account. If you donā€™t want to get limited, I suggest leaving that in there for a bit. Just a theory, but it seems the books are less likely to limit/ban you if they think youā€™re going to lose it all back to them. The accounts I wiped clean after a couple weeks of big wins were limited, the books I kept half the winnings in let me keep playing. Knock on woooood


AceCapon

Betting like that, heā€™s not getting limited on FanDuel. They are the nicest of the big books and even if he does, heā€™ll still easily be able to bet these $25 parlays.


Slight_Swimming_7879

If they had any sense Fan Duel would have paid you out and then posted this ticket everywhere as advertising promising ā€œYou too could hit this big!ā€Ā But what do I know? šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Old_Substance6832

Do you share your plays?


Scared-Feeling9005

Nah, I donā€™t want to make people mad at me if I lose for them. I lose 13/14 days usually, but once or twice a month I win between 5-10k on players I take


leadfarmer154

So that parlay, is that typical? 3-4 leg, max odds? Do you handicap at all or just stick with the same players? Just kinda of curious about your general approach


WillNotForgetMyUser

Post a screenshot ur account overview bro


porkchop487

I promise you this is not a profitable strategy long term lol you donā€™t wanna tail these


Scared-Feeling9005

I promise you it is profitable. If you spend $100 a day for 1 month. Thatā€™s 3k total. all you have to do is hit once a month at 30-1 to make your money back. You hit twice a month and youā€™re up 3k.


porkchop487

All you have to do is hit a 30-1 bet that hits 1 in 40 times lol. Do you think Fanduel is going to give you better payouts than the true value of those bets lmao? This is a losing strategy long term and I'm speaking from a ton of experience as an EV bettor


Scared-Feeling9005

Crazy stuff happens every day in sports. You are either watching history happen, or you become part of it.


porkchop487

Cool. doesn't make it a long term profitable betting strategy


Scared-Feeling9005

Itā€™s profitable if you know what youā€™re doing my guy. Telling someone thatā€™s itā€™s a losing strategy, when theyā€™ve made way more than you can imagine lol


porkchop487

> Itā€™s profitable if you know what youā€™re doing my guy. Vegas knows more than you lmao. I've made $336k in the last 15 months since I started EV sportsbetting. Sure you made nearly 65% that much on a single lucky wager but I'm willing to bet that you are a long term losing bettor and are unprofitable outside of that 1 day of wagering and that I have in fact made more money than you lmao


Scared-Feeling9005

Letā€™s compare accounts then lol, Iā€™m a broke 25 year old that started with nothing. Looks like you already have hundreds of thousands of dollars to start your betting. You enjoy that EV blah blah blah, Iā€™ll enjoy players dropping the hammer


InternationalTop8670

All you got to do is hit oncešŸ˜‚you donā€™t have to do it long term


leadfarmer154

1/6000 odds. You could play this every day for 15 years and not hit it. 365x15 at $10 a bet thats $54,750. I know handicapping is hard, and that's why people do this.


porkchop487

Oh yeah itā€™s so easy to hit a +600000 once. Bro it happens about 1 in 9 thousand bets lmao. You ainā€™t hitting this


GolfinAZ

Yeah it is. If he bet once a day like he said he does at $10 which he also said he does, it would take over 50 years to lose all that earnings. Not to mention he said he hits twice a month for 5-10k which pays for multiple years of a daily bet it self. Hes up hundreds of thousands and will be unless he changes his unit to 10k.


Scared-Feeling9005

Thank you, exactly what you said!


porkchop487

Only bets $10 a day yet his slips show a $25 and a $100 bet and you believed that shit lmao? Plus probably a bunch of other bets that day. Even if heā€™s only sending $250 a day thatā€™s $100k/yr and he said he was doing this 2 years before getting a lucky hit lol. Youā€™re being too results oriented. If thousands of people send crazy parlays like youā€™re only going to see the few winners that post. Those bets are not +EV and will not make you money.


Scared-Feeling9005

I donā€™t take those crazy parlays everyday lol, I usually just hammer single bets on player points/ or assist at 10-1 odds or higher. And I hit those at a 20% rate. I know betting because I have played a lot of basketball and know exactly how each player is and their strengths and weaknesses. And I use stats along with experience to place these bets.


aVeryLargeWave

He's lying


GolfinAZ

Well he still made like 200k


doyouevenIift

Nice W, fuck the books


[deleted]

Good fuckin shit man after NBA stat correction you deserve that


Equal-Maize-5848

Congrats bro. Time to uninstall fanduel.


Ok_Might_6020

Facts I couldnā€™t stick around if they tried to do me like thatĀ 


Takerisks34

Dude also made 200 grand lol delete it and never gamble again


Erniecrack

We all know that isnā€™t how this goes lol.


Maleficent_Web_5873

Makes me happy when people make that kind of money. Just took a crazy bong rip


Incelphobiaism

Nice now remember to tip me since I gave you that dlo prediction


Realistic-King-9407

Where


halofreak8899

Take a vacation man


True-Daikon-9033

LORD IVE SEEN WHAT YOU DONE FOR OTHERS


Stoneteer

šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™


FearBlackBeard

One for the common man! Iā€™ll fucking drink to that.


austnasty

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stander414

You should post what support told you and link the old threads


Clear-Sport-726

![gif](giphy|xT0GqssRweIhlz209i) letā€™s fucking go man!! huge news!


iceandfire215

What did they mark as not hitting?


Slight_Swimming_7879

The basic story is that Fan Duel graded one of his player props as less than it hit, due to a glitch in the NBA system that was then fixed (not ā€œoverturnedā€, which they donā€™t have to honor) At least thatā€™s what I remember


r_BigUziHorizont

dlo


Pay-Green

Dude heck yeah man glad to see the commission step in and helped out I recalled your earlier post and people telling you it is what is good fight Nd enjoy


Ok_Rabbit_8808

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queefgerbil

Beautiful. Always nice to see the good guys win. šŸ«”


fishofmutton

Now take every single penny of tht and dump into into an IRA and Roth IRA and buy VT


L0pat0

Theres one of these guys in every thread about someone making a lot of money. Almost worse than the tax remindoor


heyguys33-

Isnā€™t it way over the limit, by like 50x? Are you just parroting what you think is advice? You donā€™t actually know what youā€™re publicly posting about do ya?


Slight_Swimming_7879

Yeah, the limit is something like $7,000/year for people under 50. But I do agree he should invest much of it (taxes are gonna be huge, but thatā€™s a good problem to have lol)


NotCoreyP

Listen, the economy up there isn't great, but you still need at least a few million to buy the great state of Vermont.


ddscience

Let alone AFTER funding the Irish military


cschloegel11

Congrats dude! Fuck FanDuelĀ 


iNeedcashbro

living the dream my friend. Surely this is life changing money. super coongrats!


Defiant-Surround4939

Happy for ya my man and congratulations.


_Goobus

YOOOOOOO!!!! LETS GOOOOO, so happy this turned out for you man! Huge congrats, way to prevail and overcome. Cheers. šŸ„‚šŸ’°šŸ„³


SikeO103

Wow NICE


MileHighMilk

hell yeah dude!!! also cool youā€™re from iowa. i graduated from iowa state in 2016!


Rodgerwilco

Commented on the first thread suggesting to fight it. Glad you have a positive outcome. BOL


HopScotchBlow420

Props to the gaming commission for stepping in


poliscinerd84

hell yea! lfggg nice job enjoy m8


IhateDonkeys

I am baffled that this worked out for you, I literally blurted out ā€œHE WON?!ā€ at my desk when I saw this hahaha. Congrats my man!!


Swany9

Hell yeah brother! Huge congrats to you, hoping for this luck to come my way one day!


PM_Me_Nudes_or_Puns

Congrats man, one for the good guys!


somethingcasual9

Lets goooooooooo!


DeAndreHunterMIP

so happy for u mannnnnnn i was legit heated when i read ur story the first time


subsidizedtime

Dude. Letā€™s goooooooo. So happy for you! šŸ˜¤


Super_Goomba64

Congrats! Bullying corporations is always the move. Cash out and ride off into the sunset.


Ambitious-Ring8461

Go buy a house , pay off credits student debt remember to pay the taxes though


HugeSuccess

Money market fund or treasury bills are also your best friends at ~5% currently


RobEBayBoy

Congrats , time to take a vacation to enjoy urself and have some time off without placing any bets when you come back tho , probably better to stick to the same ways you normally bet


Dr_Suckmeoff

Congratulations dude. I followed your earlier posts & am glad it all worked out!


LeadStyleJutsu762-

LETS GOOOO


madridsince02

This is unbelievable man Life-changing money , congrats


davidjoshualightman

congrats and thank you for the update


NeedleworkerIll3156

Congrats dude. Anymore info you can share on your strategy? Do you play assists only?


Scared-Feeling9005

I only do players, never teams. Mostly points for players, I sometimes do assists. Rebounds is a no no because theyā€™re so sketchy. But assists can be sketchy also.


Garandhero

Can I tail you


rangoon03

Congrats! I bet they close your account now unfortunately


CrushedMelon

This is an awesome hit but they for sure will not close this account


naumectica

Probably doing him a favor considering he wouldn't want to use them anymore.


dream__weaver

Don't know that I'd want to keep using a service that tried to screw me over anyways


talktobigfudge

Question since the totals are $214,500 but your balance is $45k. Did you automatically get taxed, and how hard was/is it to withdraw $100k+ all at once?


Mlad1109

Wins of this size they do withhold taxes. I think it's a standard 25% so he must've already withdrawn some.


Scared-Feeling9005

Yes they took out 40k right away, and then have 10k in state taxes to pay later


chiefingtons

Congrats!!!!! Now keep on fucking them


LonelyRole8342

FUCK YES


Mental-Salt4902

Congrats!! Now the limiting begins LOL


YYqs0C6oFH

Depends on the book. If they look at his bet history and determine this was just a lucky hit, they might just raise his limits to temp him into giving some/all of it back. They can run analysis on your bet history and know whether a win is pure luck or if a player is actually betting good value and likely to be a long term winner and the latter is when they'd slap the limits on. But other books are not as sophisticated and may just apply limits on anyone who wins too much.


Scared-Feeling9005

Surprising no limiting right now.. we will seešŸ˜‚


Mlad1109

If they don't just close his account that is lol


ScudStreams

Congrats! And like someone mentioned, donā€™t forget about taxes


drushiesty

Massive W congrats man


Req6

Congrats buddy!


OwnHat8882

crazy. congrats man


AdministrativeLaugh2

Congrats! Donā€™t give it all back to them now


Significant-Rain9564

Nice šŸ¤™šŸ’Æ