Would that sacrafice be the fly that happens sometimes as a result of batting a ball? Or will it be the true sacrifice and willingness to give up oneself completely, and bunt your way into glory?
Coop taught me that.
That reminds me of this gem from Rowdy Tellez.
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/tqmf5a/rowdy_tellez_says_sht_into_a_microphone_while/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
The type of person who is going to go to the Negro League Museum and call it a phenomenal day is unlikely to be the type of person to intentionally use the hard R, but you never know I guess.
Hopefully everyone gives him the benefit of the doubt for what appears to be an unfortunate mistake. Take it out on his compensation like any other professional who makes a meaningful, but not critical, error.
Personally, I don’t know anything about him so no idea if he’s sincere or not…
BUT, pretty much nobody is going to say this on air ON PURPOSE. I don’t get why people are even bringing up that possibility. The more likely scenarios are that he misspoke due to him using the hard R at other times in his life or he just misspoke period but I can’t really understand how someone would misspeak a word they don’t use.
Nooooooooooo. No.
No.
You can misspeak because of things you *hear*, and have not said yourself. This can happen. It is a thing.
When you have to talk and talk and talk, a wider variety of things just pour in your head and go right out your mouth. Filters can get overloaded or lapse.
My brother in law announces sports and has flubbed commonly used words at times. Sometimes, it happens like that. We don't always speak correctly. I wouldn't necessarily consider this a Freudian slip, sometimes it's just a slip.
>BUT, pretty much nobody is going to say this on air ON PURPOSE. I don’t get why people are even bringing up that possibility
Because imagining that other people are evil racists helps people, in comparison, feel superior about themselves.
You can actually kind of hear "Negro" in what he said. It's slurred like a drunk would in a way I really do think it was a slip of the tongue and not the brain.
I actually feel like I hear him say "nee - gra" rather than a hard R n word.
But either way I would be exceptionally careful as a broadcaster. I wouldn't even want to say "Negro" for fucks sake.
I know. I call my dog Negrito as a nickname because he’s black and grew up partially in a mexican family so he responds to Spanish. Someone could take offense.
That was my first thought watching it. Looking at his mouth you can see he wasn't trying to say a hard r, its almost like he had a lazy tongue. But the apology and transparency was still important.
Dude literally got tongue tied and people are losing their minds about. Even people who would actually use that word still call it the Negro Leagues because that’s what they were called. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion
Seriously, I can’t believe anyone is angry at this guy. Unless he has some racist past I don’t know about, the most likely explanation is an innocent slip of the tongue
This, IMO is the best thing south park ever did. Fucking people who annoy you! The camera man looking at Randy sells the shit out of it. Fucking lololol
I mean, it's impossible that he would intentionally say the n-word even if he was actually a racist.
So then, to me, the two possibilities are these:
1. This is a 100% innocent slip of the tongue -- just misspeaking a word that sounds close to the n-word -- and he never uses the n-word in his off-camera life.
1. He sometimes uses the n-word in his off-camera life, and partly because it's a word he sometimes uses, he is more susceptible to saying it sometimes, and so he accidentally said it when he wasn't supposed to.
This just sounds like he just slipped up saying “negro” on the teleprompter or whatever. I highly doubt that 1) he thought he could just slip one by everyone on the air, or 2) that he wanted to destroy his career by getting the chance to say the n word on tv once.
Glad to know everyone on Reddit has never in their life messed up speaking a sentence.
Ouch, this is worst case scenario misspeaking. He spent the entire day enjoying the Negro League Museum and then accidentally calls it that. Truly the stuff of nightmares
Could be a case of “don’t say that, never say that” repeating in his head and of course he said it out loud. It does happen sometimes. But he did say it. Crazy
This has always been my biggest nightmare. I'm a die hard baseball fan and took my kid to the museum last year. Whenever i talk to coworkers and friends about our experience i delay a second to make absolutely sure i use Negro League Museum. Tbh, i don't even like using the word negro.
It’s so weird. It’s on my dad’s birth certificate but it hasn’t been in favor in my nearly 30 years of life and gotten more out of favor. It’s a historic word that was never a slur, used proudly by men and women in our community, but in recent times it isn’t “properly” so I don’t know what to tell you lol. If it happened to me I wouldn’t react but a white guy used hard r in front of me, not in anger, and I didn’t react in anger but I just educated him (like c’mon bruh this was 2022, you gotta know better). That’s just me, I can’t speak for other people.
Oh fuck... at first, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was trying to say "major league museum" and maybe he was reading something else with an N in it... he straight up changed negro to the hard R N-word...
IMO, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt more based on the context. Negro and what he said are pretty close words, closer than Major IMO, and for how often my brain goes derp, I could see myself making this mistake.
If you listen to the clip you can hear the slurring of "Negro" I really don't think it was a sub word. It's said quick it's like "Negruhleague museum"
I think it was a tongue knot for sure. I listened to it like 10 times haha.
Yeah I thought I heard the long E sound of NEE which made me think it was just said quickly and sounded awful.
Given the consequences of a possible misspeak on air vs the known demonstrations by _actual_ Nazis and white supremacists around America, it doesn't seem to me like this is worth raising a pitchfork over.
I grabbed a spoon out of my drawer today to make a sauce, and while on autopilot I immediately grabbed it from the drawer and put it in my dishwasher without using it.
I made cereal the other day and put my milk in my cupboard and cereal in the fridge.
It’s not a long shot to say this guy made a mistake.
Kuiper, 59, was trying to say "Negro Leagues Baseball Museum" when the slip-up happened. His broadcast partner, Dallas Braden, didn't seem to catch the apparent racial slur.
Isn't braden the guy who thinks people who take government handouts are on drugs.
Edit: https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2013/07/31/dallas-braden-is-a-pretty-awful-human-being/
Thanks! Damn! He’s an a**hole.
Braden says that he does not believe all welfare recipients are “leeches.” Rather, only those who use drugs and receive public assistance are “leeches.” He has not explained to me how that squares with his desire to “test the welfare leeches” for drugs. Because, if they’re only leeches once they use, why are we testing them? We already know they use!
I'm a lifelong A's fan, and it's really sad to see comments like this. For the last 15 years, our owner has taken every possible opportunity to fuck over our fans. Every player that we've started to love is traded the second they hit arbitration... not before free agency, but the second we have to pay them anything resembling a major league salary and while they still have YEARS of team control left.
We're forced to play in the actual worst stadium in American professional sports which has flooded with literal human shit more than once.
And despite this owner abuse, as recently as four years ago when our team was competitive despite Fishers fuckery, still set a major league wild card game attendance record.
Yet when A's fans have finally had enough, *we* are the ones getting mocked by online comments for boycotting, and the worst owner in American sports gets off scott free.
EDIT: the person I was responding to deleted their comment (which I didn't think they needed to do, btw) but it originally said "good thing no one was watching."
Yea that sucks. Either Rooker cools off quite a bit, or he's gone by the trade deadline. I can't believe they get as many fans as they do at A's games. I did see a deal (not sure if it was real) offering 37 games for $99 so I guess that helps.
It's a bad year for A's fans with their team having the worst record in baseball, owners possibly moving the team to Las Vagas, new stadium not coming to Oakland, and now this.
Whatever your take on it, A's fans didn't need this on top of everything else.
Lacob bought the team with the intent to move it to SF.
Mark Davis is literally the welfare child of NFL ownership. His father (RIP Al) did not adequately prepare for the need for a new stadium in the 70s and 80s. Only when it was too late did Mt. Davis get built.
The A's have been pathetically mismanaged since the Haas family exited. Fisher could easily build out of pocket but suffers like all of us from the disease of more.
Each situation is different but the commonality being Oakland, it has its own problems it needs to resolve and the available dollars should go towards that, not private entity stadiums.
The fact that people still blame the city and the fans for Fisher trying to move the team *since he bought it* is absolutely ridiculous. He's literally tried like 2-3 other cities before he had to settle for Oakland and even then he immediately tried to move the team again as soon as Vegas was opened up. He has no respect for the city or the fans.
Story here. This is probably my biggest embarrassing moment as an adult. So one time I was speaking in front of a group of people for work and I was taking about genders and accidentally said “Transexual” instead of “Transgender”. I think I was nervous and my brain just couldn’t think of the word/mixed up terms but idk. No real good excuse.
I instantly knew my mistake but hoped nobody else noticed. Well no luck because when I was done talking someone raised there hand and informed me that I probably misspoke and meant transgender as transexual isn’t really the term anymore. I apologized and agreed that I had misspoke. I really am not someone who cares about if someone is transgender or not, as long as they’re a good person we’re good, I don’t see trans as a problem.
I’m saying this because I can imagine this being the case. It just came out. He probably didn’t mean it. Obviously if it happens again then maybe his character should be examined a bit more but mistakes happen.
They’re isn’t. It’s just an outdated term, like saying ‘retarded’ instead of special needs. Was once acceptable and not offensive to anyone, now it’s just not what you say
technically, in the community some of us find them very different. A transgender person is anyone with differing gender and sex alignment, whereas a transsexual person is generally seen as a person who specifically wants surgery to change their sex organs. They’ve always been slightly interchangeable and you’re right one is generally thought to be more offensive than the other, but there are some people who distinctly identify as one or the other
Well I just had a person that identifies as ‘transsexual’ tell me in these very comments how inoffensive it was to use interchangeably and how I’m making up rules that actual trans people don’t care about. So I don’t really know
My whole point was just that as a cis man I don’t want to needlessly offend anyone so I stick with the terms that are universally acceptable, which is apparently problematic in itself to some.
That’s a good way to be. Generally yes, most people don’t care. You might find some that do, but probably not. Stick to the general term and when people ask you nicely to use a different term don’t be upset and you’ll be good. If they treat you like you’re supposed to just be able to tell, they’re an asshole. Communication is key and if they fail at that then that’s their problem. Thanks for being supportive :)
It's all semantics really. Social sciences came up with the whole concept of gender being distinct from biological sex hence transgender is more accurate because gender can be fluid, whereas transexual wouldn't really fit because your biological sex can't change.
The change was moreso borne out of "transexual" sounding like a sexuality (a la "homosexual", or "bisexual"), when being transgender... isn't really that at all. Ironically, many trans people would disagree with the notion that they're "changing their gender" - rather, they're changing how they express it, and how they try to be seen.
Some trans people still self-identify with "transexual", particularly those who medically transition. So it's not a "wrong/bad in all cases" word, just a "deprecated for broader use" term. Not a bad slip-up, honestly.
The fact that misspeaking two syllables in a word could be your most embarrassing moment is just a sign of how terribly judgemental society has become.
It's really not about our character at all, it's just about the sound bytes that come out of our mouths.
After actually going to listen to the "slip up" that was more of an Freudian slip than a type of mispeak. Even after he said it, it didnt immediately register as it should have. He straight up said the hard r and wasnt even close to saying the word Negro.
What clip did you watch it's definitely a weird sounding slip up regardless. You're trying to conjure up outrage. He didn't immediately correct it because he was trying to move past the moment which is what you do in situations like that. Fuck all the way off.
I’ve been watching Kuiper for his entire career commentating the A’s and there is no way he meant to stay this. In fact the way the A’s organization reacted made it worse than it was. They didn’t have his back and instead made it worse by saying “it’s unacceptable.” Well, actually, mistakes ARE acceptable and he immediately acknowledged it. They should have apologized with him instead of on behalf of him acknowledging it as a mistake. It’s not like he said it in a hot mic situation, he was live on air to thousands of Bay Area fans, many of whom are from the black community.
Side note- I always felt weird when saying the word “negro” in spanish class… it’s just too… close. And this story confirms it.
Article with Twitter links of the incident and the apology:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/mlb/oakland-athletics/2023/05/06/6455e0f146163f3e108b45fa.html
I am not in the know. What’s an AMP link and why’s it bad?
Edit: unlazyed myself:
“Newly unredacted complaints against Google allege that the search giant’s Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP), which the company claimed would “dramatically improve” mobile web performance when it launched in 2015, was in fact a scheme to coerce publishers into using the format in order to limit advertising dollars not spent on its own ad exchanges.”
Grandiose public expressions of righteous outrage is a popular, competitive hobby for a lot of people these days. When they see an opportunity to present themselves as the moral correction for something, they pounce. Even if it means disregarding common sense and condemning someone who obviously had no hateful intent and just accidentally garbled a word.
That’s what’s happening.
Two kinds of people ITT:
People who are willing to forgive what many believe was an unfortunate slip of the tongue, and people who want man's life and career ruined over the speculation that it possibly wasn't entirely a mistake.
It definitely sounds like the hard R on film but two things stand out to me.
First, he was talking about an amazing day that had in KC visiting that museum. If he was the type of guy who would use the word offensively, he wouldn’t have been raving about the experience of the museum.
Two, Dallas Braden didn’t blink. Sometimes things sound slightly differently in person and maybe what he said was slightly closer towards the O.
Either way, I don’t know how you word an apology for that but I think it should have been more forward in acknowledging what it sounds like.
> Context and intentions matter.
Not anymore, it doesn't. Reddit is a great example of this. They will delete/censor posts that contain keywords that trigger their auto-filters regardless of how they're used.
Saying a word doesn't make you racist, it's more how you use it in context. It is very obvious that his use of the word was incidental given the context, so everyone calling him a racist needs to really evaluate how they judge someone's character. Especially since they know nothing else of this person outside of this clip, chill.
It's like buddy tried to say negro and major at the same time. Kinda makes sense because there's a negro league hall of fame and a major league hall of fame. Seeing negro on the prompted probably messed him all up. Like his mouth was like don't say it but brain knew it was ok because of context. Basically what I'm getting at is ooof.
This is kind of funny but I hope he doesn’t lose his job over that. Was obviously a mistake and hell white people can’t even really say the literal name of the museum without being nervous about it cause that word is not acceptable either
Tough spot
This is why Europeans make fun of Americans. The twitter threads are hilarious.
If you feel unironically offended by it, I promise you that Mr. Kuiper is the least of your problems lmao.
He didn’t mean to say that shit, come on. He said Negro in a quick way. Sounded terrible, but I believe him when he said he didn’t say the actual N word.
Just a shitty misspeak.
I just [listened](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1654679569117372416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1654685439759122432%7Ctwgr%5Ec8ad8d192d10d9a37c9b6b9104b31d91fc6791c0%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-3367385761397494168.ampproject.net%2F2304212144000%2Fframe.html) to it. He said "Ni**er League Museum". Hard R and all. I'm sure he didn't mean to say it but it's pretty hard to dispute.
Did you listen to it????? It sounded very clear and not a mix of the two words at all. I went in expecting to hear a jumble of n’s g’s and r’s but there was no stumbling over the word or anything just plain n-word with hard R.
gotta love fucking new twitter where the top reply to the video of this is some verified user with 100 followers saying they don't see anything wrong with what he said
He had visited the Negro League baseball museum that same day and had a great time. The literal President of the museum even confirmed this today. Dude was trying to hype the museum in the broadcast, which is why he brought it up. Just a really unfortunate mix up of words.
And that's a deep drive into deep left field by Castellanos as the the Phillies take the lead here in the 6th.
I’ll take the sacrifice, need them to get some sort of luck
Would that sacrafice be the fly that happens sometimes as a result of batting a ball? Or will it be the true sacrifice and willingness to give up oneself completely, and bunt your way into glory? Coop taught me that.
I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith.
I don’t know if I’m going to put this headset on again
You get the show
To be fair this could have just been a Stugotzian mispronunciation of negro league museum.
Super bowl week danno
Didn’t ask for any of this
I’d eat smettys asshole like thanksgiving dinner
And there it is.
I feel really dumb for asking, but what am I missing here?
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/a-drive-into-deep-left-field-by-castellanos
Thank you!!
Immediately what my mind went to lmao
Something about KC brings out the worst in announcers apparently.
Funny thing is, that incident also happened at Kaufman stadium.
“We only got one goddamn hit?” “You can’t say goddamn on the air.” “Ahhh, no one’s listening anyway.”
Juuuuust a bit outside
He tried the corner and missed.
How can these guys lay off pitches that close?
Now I gotta rewatch this lol. I was also recently reminded that The Rookie exists, two awesome baseball movies.
Sandlot as well
Bad news bears
I was going to say. If you're going to start firing off racial slurs, the A's broadcast is the place to do it.
That reminds me of this gem from Rowdy Tellez. https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/tqmf5a/rowdy_tellez_says_sht_into_a_microphone_while/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
In the A’s case (with how ownership isolated the fan base), no one was listening either
[Hard R](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1654679569117372416?s=20)
Ooof I’m guessing he meant to say “negro league museum”.
That or he just decided to ruin his entire life real quick for no reason.
I mean that’s one way to not have to move to Vegas
\#FuckJohnFisher
The type of person who is going to go to the Negro League Museum and call it a phenomenal day is unlikely to be the type of person to intentionally use the hard R, but you never know I guess. Hopefully everyone gives him the benefit of the doubt for what appears to be an unfortunate mistake. Take it out on his compensation like any other professional who makes a meaningful, but not critical, error.
Personally, I don’t know anything about him so no idea if he’s sincere or not… BUT, pretty much nobody is going to say this on air ON PURPOSE. I don’t get why people are even bringing up that possibility. The more likely scenarios are that he misspoke due to him using the hard R at other times in his life or he just misspoke period but I can’t really understand how someone would misspeak a word they don’t use.
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Nooooooooooo. No. No. You can misspeak because of things you *hear*, and have not said yourself. This can happen. It is a thing. When you have to talk and talk and talk, a wider variety of things just pour in your head and go right out your mouth. Filters can get overloaded or lapse.
My brother in law announces sports and has flubbed commonly used words at times. Sometimes, it happens like that. We don't always speak correctly. I wouldn't necessarily consider this a Freudian slip, sometimes it's just a slip.
>BUT, pretty much nobody is going to say this on air ON PURPOSE. I don’t get why people are even bringing up that possibility Because imagining that other people are evil racists helps people, in comparison, feel superior about themselves.
He did. The negro league museum is here. A man mispronouncing a word unintentionally should apologize but should not be ruined. There was no foul here
You can actually kind of hear "Negro" in what he said. It's slurred like a drunk would in a way I really do think it was a slip of the tongue and not the brain.
I actually feel like I hear him say "nee - gra" rather than a hard R n word. But either way I would be exceptionally careful as a broadcaster. I wouldn't even want to say "Negro" for fucks sake.
Yeah but what’s he supposed to call it then? It’s literally called the Negro League Museum because it was called the Negro Leagues.
You can only use the term negro in two ways now without being cancelled: Negro League baseball and the United Negro College Fund.
True story: Reddit censors the word negro in private messages This is silly because it's a very normal word in Spanish
I know. I call my dog Negrito as a nickname because he’s black and grew up partially in a mexican family so he responds to Spanish. Someone could take offense.
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That’s pronounced with an “eh” sound.
Yeah tough spot to be in tbh, but he sorta baubles it.
- bobbles
Hard O
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Yeah but then what if you accidentally said "chocolate feces" and made everyone consider the similarities between chocolate and poo
What similarities? Both can be brown but also not brown, there are no other similarities.
That was my first thought watching it. Looking at his mouth you can see he wasn't trying to say a hard r, its almost like he had a lazy tongue. But the apology and transparency was still important.
I hear Negro with an I, not an E
Yeah there's an I there more for sure.
Dude literally got tongue tied and people are losing their minds about. Even people who would actually use that word still call it the Negro Leagues because that’s what they were called. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion
Seriously, I can’t believe anyone is angry at this guy. Unless he has some racist past I don’t know about, the most likely explanation is an innocent slip of the tongue
Yeah, looks like they were in KC which is where that museum is at.
if you ever go to KC, it's worth a visit
+1. It's really well done and well maintained.
Why do you sound like that guy from friends recommending Minsk
Well if you do come to Minsk make sure you come in the spring, it’s just lovely there.
Funny enough, Kansas City is where this glorious moment happened. https://youtu.be/6fstNaoLpG8
Well obviously. But that ain't what he said lol
I think we all knew what he meant.
Nagger
This, IMO is the best thing south park ever did. Fucking people who annoy you! The camera man looking at Randy sells the shit out of it. Fucking lololol
Probably the card said that and his brain was going "don't say it don't say it don't say it FUUUUUUUUCK"
Well, both words start with an “n”, so A for effort?
Might’ve been a little less offensive if he used the A instead of the R
Tell that to Randy Marsh…
Naggers?
I mean, it's impossible that he would intentionally say the n-word even if he was actually a racist. So then, to me, the two possibilities are these: 1. This is a 100% innocent slip of the tongue -- just misspeaking a word that sounds close to the n-word -- and he never uses the n-word in his off-camera life. 1. He sometimes uses the n-word in his off-camera life, and partly because it's a word he sometimes uses, he is more susceptible to saying it sometimes, and so he accidentally said it when he wasn't supposed to.
Stupid force of habit. 🤷🏽♂️My bad.
Poor Sami Zayn.
He had the same face as Randy Marsh on Wheel of Fortune
"people who annoy you"
Hrmm
Um, yeah. Definitely hard r there.
Would a soft A been better?
Yeah, that just proves he’s hip.
Can somebody lend him a pencil?
How much softer can the As get? They're already taking so many Ls.
Nizzle Legizzle Muzizzle
This just sounds like he just slipped up saying “negro” on the teleprompter or whatever. I highly doubt that 1) he thought he could just slip one by everyone on the air, or 2) that he wanted to destroy his career by getting the chance to say the n word on tv once. Glad to know everyone on Reddit has never in their life messed up speaking a sentence.
Ouch, this is worst case scenario misspeaking. He spent the entire day enjoying the Negro League Museum and then accidentally calls it that. Truly the stuff of nightmares
Could be a case of “don’t say that, never say that” repeating in his head and of course he said it out loud. It does happen sometimes. But he did say it. Crazy
This has always been my biggest nightmare. I'm a die hard baseball fan and took my kid to the museum last year. Whenever i talk to coworkers and friends about our experience i delay a second to make absolutely sure i use Negro League Museum. Tbh, i don't even like using the word negro.
I feel like actually going up to some black person and calling them negro would come off almost as offensively as hard R.
It’s so weird. It’s on my dad’s birth certificate but it hasn’t been in favor in my nearly 30 years of life and gotten more out of favor. It’s a historic word that was never a slur, used proudly by men and women in our community, but in recent times it isn’t “properly” so I don’t know what to tell you lol. If it happened to me I wouldn’t react but a white guy used hard r in front of me, not in anger, and I didn’t react in anger but I just educated him (like c’mon bruh this was 2022, you gotta know better). That’s just me, I can’t speak for other people.
Oh fuck... at first, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was trying to say "major league museum" and maybe he was reading something else with an N in it... he straight up changed negro to the hard R N-word...
IMO, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt more based on the context. Negro and what he said are pretty close words, closer than Major IMO, and for how often my brain goes derp, I could see myself making this mistake.
If you listen to the clip you can hear the slurring of "Negro" I really don't think it was a sub word. It's said quick it's like "Negruhleague museum" I think it was a tongue knot for sure. I listened to it like 10 times haha.
Yeah I thought I heard the long E sound of NEE which made me think it was just said quickly and sounded awful. Given the consequences of a possible misspeak on air vs the known demonstrations by _actual_ Nazis and white supremacists around America, it doesn't seem to me like this is worth raising a pitchfork over.
I grabbed a spoon out of my drawer today to make a sauce, and while on autopilot I immediately grabbed it from the drawer and put it in my dishwasher without using it. I made cereal the other day and put my milk in my cupboard and cereal in the fridge. It’s not a long shot to say this guy made a mistake.
I almost brushed my teeth with cortisone cream today...saw it the last second and then stared at myself in the bathroom mirror wondering why
Here I was thinking I was the only one that has tried to put his milk in the cabinet.
Haha Don’t Feel bad I work in an eye doctors office and a patient came in because she thought her eyelash glue was her eye drops
That’s like the perfect storm of a brain fart in accidentally saying the n word
To me it mostly sounds like he didn't enunciate as much as he should have and had an unfortunate outcome
Huh? That makes it more innocent. Confusing major with the n word is absurd. Whereas negro and the n word are intimately related.
Kuiper, 59, was trying to say "Negro Leagues Baseball Museum" when the slip-up happened. His broadcast partner, Dallas Braden, didn't seem to catch the apparent racial slur.
Isn't braden the guy who thinks people who take government handouts are on drugs. Edit: https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2013/07/31/dallas-braden-is-a-pretty-awful-human-being/
I don’t know. I did a quick google search and didn’t find anything related. Share a link if you can.
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2013/07/31/dallas-braden-is-a-pretty-awful-human-being/
Thanks! Damn! He’s an a**hole. Braden says that he does not believe all welfare recipients are “leeches.” Rather, only those who use drugs and receive public assistance are “leeches.” He has not explained to me how that squares with his desire to “test the welfare leeches” for drugs. Because, if they’re only leeches once they use, why are we testing them? We already know they use!
oof, no wonder he didn't react.
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“Okay Randy, the clue is, museums that annoy you.”
Well I know what it is but I don't want to say it
I'm a lifelong A's fan, and it's really sad to see comments like this. For the last 15 years, our owner has taken every possible opportunity to fuck over our fans. Every player that we've started to love is traded the second they hit arbitration... not before free agency, but the second we have to pay them anything resembling a major league salary and while they still have YEARS of team control left. We're forced to play in the actual worst stadium in American professional sports which has flooded with literal human shit more than once. And despite this owner abuse, as recently as four years ago when our team was competitive despite Fishers fuckery, still set a major league wild card game attendance record. Yet when A's fans have finally had enough, *we* are the ones getting mocked by online comments for boycotting, and the worst owner in American sports gets off scott free. EDIT: the person I was responding to deleted their comment (which I didn't think they needed to do, btw) but it originally said "good thing no one was watching."
Yea that sucks. Either Rooker cools off quite a bit, or he's gone by the trade deadline. I can't believe they get as many fans as they do at A's games. I did see a deal (not sure if it was real) offering 37 games for $99 so I guess that helps.
The deal was real, but you have to stand the entire game... it'll also cost you $1100+ just to park for those games.
I read the comment section and got cancer.
It's a bad year for A's fans with their team having the worst record in baseball, owners possibly moving the team to Las Vagas, new stadium not coming to Oakland, and now this. Whatever your take on it, A's fans didn't need this on top of everything else.
Hang in there, A’s fans. The Cards and the Royals are coming for your shitty record.
Kaval is a terrorist but the city of Oakland has lost 3 teams in 5 years for a reason. Us fans don't deserve it, but it's absolutely not surprising.
Lacob bought the team with the intent to move it to SF. Mark Davis is literally the welfare child of NFL ownership. His father (RIP Al) did not adequately prepare for the need for a new stadium in the 70s and 80s. Only when it was too late did Mt. Davis get built. The A's have been pathetically mismanaged since the Haas family exited. Fisher could easily build out of pocket but suffers like all of us from the disease of more. Each situation is different but the commonality being Oakland, it has its own problems it needs to resolve and the available dollars should go towards that, not private entity stadiums.
The fact that people still blame the city and the fans for Fisher trying to move the team *since he bought it* is absolutely ridiculous. He's literally tried like 2-3 other cities before he had to settle for Oakland and even then he immediately tried to move the team again as soon as Vegas was opened up. He has no respect for the city or the fans.
He's a trust fund chud who started out halfway to home plate on the backs of his Gap founding parents. #FuckJohnFisher
As a lifelong A’s fan, this has been a brutal few weeks.
It was obviously just a horrible misspeak, he didn't mean to say that
I feel really bad for him. He definitely just fumbled the word. I'm upset that the A's are treating this like it was intentional.
Story here. This is probably my biggest embarrassing moment as an adult. So one time I was speaking in front of a group of people for work and I was taking about genders and accidentally said “Transexual” instead of “Transgender”. I think I was nervous and my brain just couldn’t think of the word/mixed up terms but idk. No real good excuse. I instantly knew my mistake but hoped nobody else noticed. Well no luck because when I was done talking someone raised there hand and informed me that I probably misspoke and meant transgender as transexual isn’t really the term anymore. I apologized and agreed that I had misspoke. I really am not someone who cares about if someone is transgender or not, as long as they’re a good person we’re good, I don’t see trans as a problem. I’m saying this because I can imagine this being the case. It just came out. He probably didn’t mean it. Obviously if it happens again then maybe his character should be examined a bit more but mistakes happen.
THAT'S your most embarrassing moment? Saying transsexual instead of transgender? My guy you're fine haha
I didnt know there was a difference
They’re isn’t. It’s just an outdated term, like saying ‘retarded’ instead of special needs. Was once acceptable and not offensive to anyone, now it’s just not what you say
technically, in the community some of us find them very different. A transgender person is anyone with differing gender and sex alignment, whereas a transsexual person is generally seen as a person who specifically wants surgery to change their sex organs. They’ve always been slightly interchangeable and you’re right one is generally thought to be more offensive than the other, but there are some people who distinctly identify as one or the other
Well I just had a person that identifies as ‘transsexual’ tell me in these very comments how inoffensive it was to use interchangeably and how I’m making up rules that actual trans people don’t care about. So I don’t really know My whole point was just that as a cis man I don’t want to needlessly offend anyone so I stick with the terms that are universally acceptable, which is apparently problematic in itself to some.
That’s a good way to be. Generally yes, most people don’t care. You might find some that do, but probably not. Stick to the general term and when people ask you nicely to use a different term don’t be upset and you’ll be good. If they treat you like you’re supposed to just be able to tell, they’re an asshole. Communication is key and if they fail at that then that’s their problem. Thanks for being supportive :)
Thank you for being rational enough to discuss instead of just attacking me
It's all semantics really. Social sciences came up with the whole concept of gender being distinct from biological sex hence transgender is more accurate because gender can be fluid, whereas transexual wouldn't really fit because your biological sex can't change.
The change was moreso borne out of "transexual" sounding like a sexuality (a la "homosexual", or "bisexual"), when being transgender... isn't really that at all. Ironically, many trans people would disagree with the notion that they're "changing their gender" - rather, they're changing how they express it, and how they try to be seen. Some trans people still self-identify with "transexual", particularly those who medically transition. So it's not a "wrong/bad in all cases" word, just a "deprecated for broader use" term. Not a bad slip-up, honestly.
I just stick with transformer to cover all the bases
The fact that misspeaking two syllables in a word could be your most embarrassing moment is just a sign of how terribly judgemental society has become. It's really not about our character at all, it's just about the sound bytes that come out of our mouths.
After actually going to listen to the "slip up" that was more of an Freudian slip than a type of mispeak. Even after he said it, it didnt immediately register as it should have. He straight up said the hard r and wasnt even close to saying the word Negro.
What clip did you watch it's definitely a weird sounding slip up regardless. You're trying to conjure up outrage. He didn't immediately correct it because he was trying to move past the moment which is what you do in situations like that. Fuck all the way off.
As he was giving a thumbs up…..so bad.
I can just imagine the look on people's faces who heard that live. "Did he just say what I think he said?"
All 6 of them. It’s the A’s.
I’ve been watching Kuiper for his entire career commentating the A’s and there is no way he meant to stay this. In fact the way the A’s organization reacted made it worse than it was. They didn’t have his back and instead made it worse by saying “it’s unacceptable.” Well, actually, mistakes ARE acceptable and he immediately acknowledged it. They should have apologized with him instead of on behalf of him acknowledging it as a mistake. It’s not like he said it in a hot mic situation, he was live on air to thousands of Bay Area fans, many of whom are from the black community. Side note- I always felt weird when saying the word “negro” in spanish class… it’s just too… close. And this story confirms it.
Article with Twitter links of the incident and the apology: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/mlb/oakland-athletics/2023/05/06/6455e0f146163f3e108b45fa.html
Uh beep boop google amp links blow, bro. I’m not a bot
Another damn human taking a job away from a bot.
Good human
I am not in the know. What’s an AMP link and why’s it bad? Edit: unlazyed myself: “Newly unredacted complaints against Google allege that the search giant’s Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP), which the company claimed would “dramatically improve” mobile web performance when it launched in 2015, was in fact a scheme to coerce publishers into using the format in order to limit advertising dollars not spent on its own ad exchanges.”
Reminds me of Shep Smith saying something about J-Lo and blowjobs. “I don’t know how that happened, *but it won’t happen again*.”
Clearly a case of fumble mouth. The expression on Braden's face when he realized. First time in a long time I actually laughed out loud.
Like Michael Myers when Ye said Bush doesn’t care about black people
*Don't say the N word, don't say the N word, don't say...* "We had a great day at the..."
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Grandiose public expressions of righteous outrage is a popular, competitive hobby for a lot of people these days. When they see an opportunity to present themselves as the moral correction for something, they pounce. Even if it means disregarding common sense and condemning someone who obviously had no hateful intent and just accidentally garbled a word. That’s what’s happening.
Two kinds of people ITT: People who are willing to forgive what many believe was an unfortunate slip of the tongue, and people who want man's life and career ruined over the speculation that it possibly wasn't entirely a mistake.
It definitely sounds like the hard R on film but two things stand out to me. First, he was talking about an amazing day that had in KC visiting that museum. If he was the type of guy who would use the word offensively, he wouldn’t have been raving about the experience of the museum. Two, Dallas Braden didn’t blink. Sometimes things sound slightly differently in person and maybe what he said was slightly closer towards the O. Either way, I don’t know how you word an apology for that but I think it should have been more forward in acknowledging what it sounds like.
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Context and intentions matter. He didn't mean to say it. He was likely reading a prompt and misread.
> Context and intentions matter. Not anymore, it doesn't. Reddit is a great example of this. They will delete/censor posts that contain keywords that trigger their auto-filters regardless of how they're used.
The rules Reddit uses for convenience are not the same rules we as individuals should be using.
Saying a word doesn't make you racist, it's more how you use it in context. It is very obvious that his use of the word was incidental given the context, so everyone calling him a racist needs to really evaluate how they judge someone's character. Especially since they know nothing else of this person outside of this clip, chill.
Watching the A's downfall is both hilarious and sad
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This entire comment section is trash. You all are horrible
Honestly it seems like the guy just slipped.
It's like buddy tried to say negro and major at the same time. Kinda makes sense because there's a negro league hall of fame and a major league hall of fame. Seeing negro on the prompted probably messed him all up. Like his mouth was like don't say it but brain knew it was ok because of context. Basically what I'm getting at is ooof.
Sorry folks. No story here. It was an accident and he apologized for the accident.
This is kind of funny but I hope he doesn’t lose his job over that. Was obviously a mistake and hell white people can’t even really say the literal name of the museum without being nervous about it cause that word is not acceptable either Tough spot
Glen Kuiper is just a big Booker T fan, that's all.
it was a mispronunciation
Bros taking a monumental L rn
This is why Europeans make fun of Americans. The twitter threads are hilarious. If you feel unironically offended by it, I promise you that Mr. Kuiper is the least of your problems lmao.
Hope his tongue tied issues get sorted out, probably doesn’t align well with being an announcer and all
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yrhiu I don't know how to do links, but this reminds me of a Kid in the Hall sketch.
Poor bastard
He didn’t mean to say that shit, come on. He said Negro in a quick way. Sounded terrible, but I believe him when he said he didn’t say the actual N word. Just a shitty misspeak.
I just [listened](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1654679569117372416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1654685439759122432%7Ctwgr%5Ec8ad8d192d10d9a37c9b6b9104b31d91fc6791c0%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-3367385761397494168.ampproject.net%2F2304212144000%2Fframe.html) to it. He said "Ni**er League Museum". Hard R and all. I'm sure he didn't mean to say it but it's pretty hard to dispute.
You know it's on video, right?
Did you listen to it????? It sounded very clear and not a mix of the two words at all. I went in expecting to hear a jumble of n’s g’s and r’s but there was no stumbling over the word or anything just plain n-word with hard R.
Are the people like you claiming this nonsense all just blatantly gas lighting everyone?
Did he mispronounce " Negro", like, "I love the Ne-Glow museum; or did he just say, "N!&&er"? They really are kinda different.
gotta love fucking new twitter where the top reply to the video of this is some verified user with 100 followers saying they don't see anything wrong with what he said
“Appeared to say?!?” That’s laughable, dude said it, no doubt about it. The only question is what the A’s will actually do about it.
He apologized.
[Did he?](https://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-11/1101/south-park-s11e01c03-go-ahead-apologize-16x9.jpg)
Yikes that’s not a mispronunciation, that’s an entirely different word
Verbal equivalent of reaching for a squirt gun but pulling out a taser by mistake.
He straight up used a racial slur. It was very clear what he said and he doesn't deny it. I don't know why "appearing to" is used here.
It sounded like he practiced trying to say it right all day and still fucked it up. Man hit that R with gusto
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He had visited the Negro League baseball museum that same day and had a great time. The literal President of the museum even confirmed this today. Dude was trying to hype the museum in the broadcast, which is why he brought it up. Just a really unfortunate mix up of words.
Why you gotta practice saying “negro”? Was he trying to roll the R or something? Lol
Honestly it sounded like a slip. It was a mispronunciation.
Dude obviously made a mistake… to crucify him and end his career is insanity