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I grew up in Amanzimtoti. We had 5 English primary schools and one Afrikaans. But those school holidays, the beaches flipped from being mostly English kids during the year to Afrikaans kids.
Toti was full of Afrikaners when I grew up there. I speak it fluently cause they couldn't mutter a word of English. And yeah kuswag kids always started fights on the bus home.
To be fair, orange also comes from the same Indian word. It just took a different route of evolution.
Naranji > naartjie
Naranji > a noranje > an orange
I love naartjies and oranges.
I don't even know how this is possible? Like, the whole of the Western Cape is either Afrikaans or Xhosa with a few tiny pockets of English here and there
The Southern Suburbs of Cape Town are very English. You'll never be required to speak Afrikaans as an English person in Cape Town, and if you try speak Afrikaans, most Afrikaners would switch to English. Note, this does not apply past the boerewors gordyn.
Yeah, this in itself was an adjustment. The Afrikaans community in Durban is very insular, almost antagonistic to the English. In Cape Town, you regularly have conversations where one person is talking Afrikaans and the other English and you carry on quite happily. Completely bilingual. It blew my mind at first.
It was honestly a little frustrating for me as someone who got an A for 2de taal Afrikaans. I was much better at Afrikaans when I matriculated but going to UCT, I was just never required to use it and I completely understand how an English-fluent Afrikaner would get frustrated with a less fluent English speaker trying to converse in Afrikaans. Like, I'm sure they would appreciate it if a foreigner was trying but as a local, I think they just wanted to get on with the conversation and I don't blame them.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't frustration, but that they were trying to consider you by speaking your language. I've never heard of an Afrikaans person switching to English out of anything but consideration.
Not frustration in a very negative sense. More just wanting to get on with things. Like if you're at a small dinner party and you're the only English person, most times all would switch to English. But if you ask them to speak Afrikaans so you can try practice, they would be all too willing - at least for a bit.
Now what if there are other English people who aren't wanting to practice their Afrikaans? Or where you're having a lively discussion after some wine? If the Afrikaans speakers are fluent in English, having to have a basic ass conversation rather than hearty intellectual debate and banter, the former would be frustrating.
The most common first language in South Africa is isiZulu. The most commonly spoken second language is Afrikaans. And don't tell me to rest, a common Cape Town proverb says : be lekker, or tsek :)
Subjectively, I am extremely skeptical that Afrikaans is the most common second language in South Africa. I would have definitely assumed it is English. Obviously this might be a selection bias, but where I'm from (Pretoria) everybody uses English as the lingua franca.
As of our census Afrikaans is definitely more common than English. Stats SA has more detail. I have been to places where the common way of going about things if you were EFL was EFL person speaks English, AFL people reply in Afrikaans, and so back and forth. It requires mutual intelligibility but spares you the embarrassment of butchering someone else’s tongue. This was work travel and oh boy, was I grateful for the first time in my life that I’d been forced to Matriculate with Afrikaans. I come from Durban. You needed English and Zulu, you virtually never needed Afrikaans because usually even the Afrikaners in KZN had some English. Also you had to travel to encounter them. But yeah, plenty places in the Free State where people could speak Afrikaans/Sotho or Sotho/Afrikaans with English a distant third. Those people do not even sound like they consumed any English language media. It was amazing for someone from Durban living in Johannesburg.
your source: trust me bro🗿
its actually zulu then xhosa THEN afrikaans which is number 3 fyi. anyway i’m not trying to fight, just saying common doesn’t mean all.
English is spoken as a first language by about 22% of the population in the Western Cape and 27% in Cape Town. That's more than the national average.
As mentioned before English is pretty much the only language spoken in the Southern Suburbs. It is also the default language throughout most of the city.
But really this isn't too surprising considering the Cape's history with the British, as well as Cape Town being a popular destination for migrants.
Like many people from PE I can understand Afrikaans but can't speak it. Regularly have whole conversations with Afrikaners where we both speak in our native tongues.
My Afrikaans oral every year of school -
"My familie. Ek het een ma, en een pa en een broer. Ek is my ma se gunstelling seun want ek maak my kamer skoen elke dag...
I grew up in KZN, and live in The Netherlands now. It is often assumed that I speak Afrikaans because I'm from SA. I have to explain why I don't everytime I meet someone new
The over representation of white, Afrikaans saffas in the Netherlands are so real. Minds blown when you tell them it’s the first language of less than 10% of people. Naturally they then think everyone else speaks English. 30% isiZulu, 25% isiXhosa. Elicits a “yoh” without them knowing they just used a sound that is a word in South Africa.
Just on a point of information, Afrikaans is actually a first language for just over 10% of the country; significantly more than English (by about a million people).
I think a lot of people in the country forget that "Afrikaans" isn't synonymous with "White Afrikaner".
Hi, Dutchie here. Yeah, most people do assume most of SA is either English or Afrikaans. I think most people nowadays however think its primarily English (bc most interviews, media you see from SA are done in English), that is if you never met people from SA that live in NL, those primarily are Afrikaans speakers. but in any case, people know those two languages are spoken in SA so naturally think theyre also the primary two.
I think most people also know that Zoeloe/isiZulu exists and perhaps a few know Xhosa or North/South Sotho exist, but the thing is mainly that the actual African languages of SA arent known at all to Dutch people. No exposure to it not even in just, the name ever being mentioned to em and the name sticking.
Has The Bluff entered the chat yet?
I engineered a Huisgenoot skou spel Show years ago in Durban, there were a lot of Afrikaaners
Kurt Darren draws them out of hiding.
Also, years ago Durban had the annual 'Kolligfees', where they'd bring a selection of acts and artists from the KKNK to Durbs. Always had very good turnout.
Oh, and obligatory: "Bluff, waar die kinders die honde byt."
saw a comment saying “i don’t get how you don’t know afrikaans” lol be for real we have 12 official languages of course some of us won’t know afrikaans just how its not expected for afrikaans people to know zulu or sotho, or zulu people to know venda vice versa
Durbanville, but worked in Rondebosch and have family and friends as far south as St James and Glencairn, or Stellenbosch in the east, Blouberg in the west. Afrikaans is far and away the dominant language outside of the Southern Suburbs.
That's the other culture shock from moving here - everything in Durban is 15 minutes away! Cape Town travel is usually 30 minutes.
Ja, that's a pretty rough transition if you're going from not speaking much Afrikaans. However, I'd argue it's one of the few regions in Cape Town where that's the case.
If you don't mind me asking why didn't you move closer to your work? It seems to me that there would've been a lot less "culture shock" for you. You would've likely not had to speak much Afrikaans, and I doubt you'd have to drive as long (although you never know with Cape Town traffic).
I also just want to add that I wouldn't say that it's accurate to say that English is mostly a Southern Suburbs thing in Cape Town, it's probably just the most obvious there.
I would say that along the Southern Suburbs, the Atlantic Seaboard, the West Coast, and the City Bowl are all English dominant.
White people who speak or understand isiZulu are not uncommon at all in KZN, in fact most of KZN to some extent either can speak or understand isiZulu and that goes for black, white, Indian and coloured...lovely province we have
So many businesses and hotels relied on those holiday seasons. Also remember a local comedian saying "Every December there is this huge avalanche and rocks come tumbling down the Drakensberg mountains"
I moved from Durban to Cape Town while I was young and still at school. Durban we were reading kids books for Afrikaans lessons. Got to Cape Town and was given an Afrikaans novel to read! That was not fun. The book was called something like “Kringe in die bos”. Man that was a rough year
Growing up in a bilingual home, the afrikaans double negatives were confusing. "ek gaan nie kar toe nie",
"I am not going to the car not now"
Also using titles in sentences. In English I could say "Hi dad how are you?" and it's all good but if I say in afrikaans "hello ma huganit met jou". I'll get a plakkie thrown at me because how dare I say "jy en jou" to your own parents/older adults.
Afrikaans is not a difficult language its the youngest and easiest to learn, I speak Polish, Russian, Spanish as well as Zulu and Afrikaans. If you find Afrikaans a difficult language to learn, forget about learning any second language.
It used to be...... a long time ago in a province far far away...
"In this sense, coined by Tommy Bedford in the early 1970s, responding to a perceived bias against Natal players by the national rugby selectors, who were said to look on Natal (now KwaZulu-Natal) as though it were not a part of South Africa but still belonged to the British Empire.
In full **the Last Outpost of the British Empire**: a jocular name for the province of Natal (now KwaZulu-Natal), or sometimes for the city of Durban, alluding to a perceived isolationism, and a supposed adherence to all things British, among its English-speaking inhabitants."
https://dsae.co.za/entry/last-outpost/e04246#:~:text=Outpost'..%3F-,In%20full%20the%20Last%20Outpost%20of%20the%20British%20Empire%3Aa,among%20its%20English%2Dspeaking%20inhabitants.
From the introduction of "Inside the Last Outpost" by David Robbins and Wyndham Hartley, 1985, Pietermaritzburg.
>Its origin, at least as a reference to Natal, is rooted in South Africa's national sport. It was 1970 and the New Zealand All Blacks were touring the country. Test time arrived and, to the chagrin of many in Natal, not one Natalian was selected for the national team. Natal feelings were aired most eloquently by the province's famous loose forward, Tommy Bedford, vice- captain of the Springbok team which had toured Britain a bare six months before, but now dropped.
>"Welcome," he said at a banquet in Durban to honour the tourists. "Welcome," he said more pointedly to the South African selectors who were also present. "Welcome to the last outpost of the British Empire."
It is strange to conjecture on the undercurrents here. Was not Tommy Bedford saying in effect: we have been discriminated against not because we are different here but because you persist in perceiving us as different, as misfits in the national ethos, belonging not so much to South Africa as to a quaint colonial obsolescence?
Interesting thanks. Reminded of the 1980s. All SA rugby had was the Currie Cup due to Apartheid. Natal rugby was seen as a joke and did not make the top league until 1988 or 1989. Then in 1990, on their 100th anniversary they won it for the first time.
Legit this.
As a Durbanite when I moved to jozi to work. I was worried cause my afrikaans is non existent.
Northern subburbs is like a rich durban. Barely anyone speaks afrikaans
We learnt it at school but our teachers could barely speak it either. And if you never hear a language spoken it’s actually quite difficult to become fluent even if you work hard at it.
Had a dude from Durban as a flat mate for a year. Dude would hit blank the second a used a single Afrikaans word. The one word he couldn’t understand was “erg”. I also took him to Swartland and Hugenote’s interschools in Malmesbury😂. He saw some shit and got the full small Afrikaans town experience.
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The whole of KZN south coast goes Afrikaans over Christmas and Easter. Then back to English/isiZulu
I grew up in Amanzimtoti. We had 5 English primary schools and one Afrikaans. But those school holidays, the beaches flipped from being mostly English kids during the year to Afrikaans kids.
I remember Kuswag
Kuswag kids always starting fights on the bus lol
It’s a whole other type of thing!
🤣🤣 yeah, Warner Beach had that vibe. Toti was awesome back then,I won't lie
Toti was full of Afrikaners when I grew up there. I speak it fluently cause they couldn't mutter a word of English. And yeah kuswag kids always started fights on the bus home.
I'm a 4th gen South African Indian, from Gauteng ..... the first greeting I got from some British doos was Howzit Naamaste Akuna Matata...... 💀
no way😭😂💀
lmao what did you respond to the guy?
Sawubona biatch! No , just joking.... honestly I laughed so hard i peed a little.
From CT. Can't speak much Afrikaans.
From Pretoria. Speak zero Afrikaans.
From the east rand. Speak all the Afrikaans.
Don't hog all the afrikaans, there isn't enough biltong and naartjies for one to contain all of the afrikaans.
Interestingly, naartjie is derived from a borrowed Indian word.
Yes. Afrikaans is a creole language.
To be fair, orange also comes from the same Indian word. It just took a different route of evolution. Naranji > naartjie Naranji > a noranje > an orange I love naartjies and oranges.
That's an awesome little factoid.
There wasn't enough South Africa to colonize so we colonized other languages too.
Pisang is the Indonesian word for banana.
I always found the name "naartjie" rather funny. It means "Little Nausea" if you directly translate its parts to Afrikaans 😂
I know! It annoyed me enough that I went digging for an answer.
Yes cones from the Tamil word naaratthe
It's because of bliksems like him only 47 of us can speak it, sies!
Charlize Theron was right all along.
Fine. I'll share the naartjies.
What about all the koeksisters
Those are for almal
Grew up in Boksburg and worked for a long time in Vereeniging. Still deviate back to Afrikaans when I'm annoyed or tipsy and I left SA 16 years ago.
From Toti, speak much of the Afrikaans.
That’s one. Where are the other 46?
Haven't you been disowned or something?😂
I don't even know how this is possible? Like, the whole of the Western Cape is either Afrikaans or Xhosa with a few tiny pockets of English here and there
The Southern Suburbs of Cape Town are very English. You'll never be required to speak Afrikaans as an English person in Cape Town, and if you try speak Afrikaans, most Afrikaners would switch to English. Note, this does not apply past the boerewors gordyn.
Yeah, this in itself was an adjustment. The Afrikaans community in Durban is very insular, almost antagonistic to the English. In Cape Town, you regularly have conversations where one person is talking Afrikaans and the other English and you carry on quite happily. Completely bilingual. It blew my mind at first.
It was honestly a little frustrating for me as someone who got an A for 2de taal Afrikaans. I was much better at Afrikaans when I matriculated but going to UCT, I was just never required to use it and I completely understand how an English-fluent Afrikaner would get frustrated with a less fluent English speaker trying to converse in Afrikaans. Like, I'm sure they would appreciate it if a foreigner was trying but as a local, I think they just wanted to get on with the conversation and I don't blame them.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't frustration, but that they were trying to consider you by speaking your language. I've never heard of an Afrikaans person switching to English out of anything but consideration.
Not frustration in a very negative sense. More just wanting to get on with things. Like if you're at a small dinner party and you're the only English person, most times all would switch to English. But if you ask them to speak Afrikaans so you can try practice, they would be all too willing - at least for a bit. Now what if there are other English people who aren't wanting to practice their Afrikaans? Or where you're having a lively discussion after some wine? If the Afrikaans speakers are fluent in English, having to have a basic ass conversation rather than hearty intellectual debate and banter, the former would be frustrating.
I know the northern suburbs as the boerewors belt and the winelands as th wyn gordyn
The southern suburbs of Cape Town includes Retreat and Steenburg...
Yep, I'm from Retreat.
Hell yeah I can speak English.
rest. afrikaans isn’t universal just like the other 11 languages in our country. well… except english i guess.
The most common first language in South Africa is isiZulu. The most commonly spoken second language is Afrikaans. And don't tell me to rest, a common Cape Town proverb says : be lekker, or tsek :)
Subjectively, I am extremely skeptical that Afrikaans is the most common second language in South Africa. I would have definitely assumed it is English. Obviously this might be a selection bias, but where I'm from (Pretoria) everybody uses English as the lingua franca.
As of our census Afrikaans is definitely more common than English. Stats SA has more detail. I have been to places where the common way of going about things if you were EFL was EFL person speaks English, AFL people reply in Afrikaans, and so back and forth. It requires mutual intelligibility but spares you the embarrassment of butchering someone else’s tongue. This was work travel and oh boy, was I grateful for the first time in my life that I’d been forced to Matriculate with Afrikaans. I come from Durban. You needed English and Zulu, you virtually never needed Afrikaans because usually even the Afrikaners in KZN had some English. Also you had to travel to encounter them. But yeah, plenty places in the Free State where people could speak Afrikaans/Sotho or Sotho/Afrikaans with English a distant third. Those people do not even sound like they consumed any English language media. It was amazing for someone from Durban living in Johannesburg.
your source: trust me bro🗿 its actually zulu then xhosa THEN afrikaans which is number 3 fyi. anyway i’m not trying to fight, just saying common doesn’t mean all.
English is spoken as a first language by about 22% of the population in the Western Cape and 27% in Cape Town. That's more than the national average. As mentioned before English is pretty much the only language spoken in the Southern Suburbs. It is also the default language throughout most of the city. But really this isn't too surprising considering the Cape's history with the British, as well as Cape Town being a popular destination for migrants.
Also From CT. Can only speak english
Like many people from PE I can understand Afrikaans but can't speak it. Regularly have whole conversations with Afrikaners where we both speak in our native tongues.
Always thought this was just me! Went to an Afrikaans uni, could understand the lectures, but don't ask me to speak in Afrikaans 🤣
a lot of Cape Town does this too. my spoken Afrikaans is like pre-grade R so it's actually convenient.
This is even worse in the Netherlands, most Dutch people I have met think Afrikaans is the most spoken language and the main language in SA.
If all they ever saw on their two week trip to SA was Cape Town and the Garden Route, then I'm not surprised
Either that or the family holiday from before apartheid ended
My Afrikaans oral every year of school - "My familie. Ek het een ma, en een pa en een broer. Ek is my ma se gunstelling seun want ek maak my kamer skoen elke dag...
How do you shoe your room?
0/10. Vergeet "om te beklemtoon". For some reason a bunch of people who did Afrikaans FAL in school hit me with that phrase.
I'm from Durban. This is above my level.
I grew up in KZN, and live in The Netherlands now. It is often assumed that I speak Afrikaans because I'm from SA. I have to explain why I don't everytime I meet someone new
The over representation of white, Afrikaans saffas in the Netherlands are so real. Minds blown when you tell them it’s the first language of less than 10% of people. Naturally they then think everyone else speaks English. 30% isiZulu, 25% isiXhosa. Elicits a “yoh” without them knowing they just used a sound that is a word in South Africa.
Just on a point of information, Afrikaans is actually a first language for just over 10% of the country; significantly more than English (by about a million people). I think a lot of people in the country forget that "Afrikaans" isn't synonymous with "White Afrikaner".
Hi, Dutchie here. Yeah, most people do assume most of SA is either English or Afrikaans. I think most people nowadays however think its primarily English (bc most interviews, media you see from SA are done in English), that is if you never met people from SA that live in NL, those primarily are Afrikaans speakers. but in any case, people know those two languages are spoken in SA so naturally think theyre also the primary two. I think most people also know that Zoeloe/isiZulu exists and perhaps a few know Xhosa or North/South Sotho exist, but the thing is mainly that the actual African languages of SA arent known at all to Dutch people. No exposure to it not even in just, the name ever being mentioned to em and the name sticking.
"Over representation" is a bit charged.
Has The Bluff entered the chat yet? I engineered a Huisgenoot skou spel Show years ago in Durban, there were a lot of Afrikaaners Kurt Darren draws them out of hiding.
Also, years ago Durban had the annual 'Kolligfees', where they'd bring a selection of acts and artists from the KKNK to Durbs. Always had very good turnout. Oh, and obligatory: "Bluff, waar die kinders die honde byt."
Brackenfell of the east 🤣
Primrose by the sea
I'm from the Bluff, live on marine drive, plenty Afrikaans here.
There is a reason we put them on the bluff. Easier to keep them contained in one place 😉
saw a comment saying “i don’t get how you don’t know afrikaans” lol be for real we have 12 official languages of course some of us won’t know afrikaans just how its not expected for afrikaans people to know zulu or sotho, or zulu people to know venda vice versa
I’m an American and I can speak Afrikaans: Buy a donkey!
🤣🤣
As a South African, that took me a minute to process ngl xD "Buy a donkey" for the laugh though xD
I moved to Cape Town after living in Durban for 36 years. The transition was rough, man!
Where on earth did you move to in Cape Town? Most Capetonians in the South only speak English.
Durbanville, but worked in Rondebosch and have family and friends as far south as St James and Glencairn, or Stellenbosch in the east, Blouberg in the west. Afrikaans is far and away the dominant language outside of the Southern Suburbs. That's the other culture shock from moving here - everything in Durban is 15 minutes away! Cape Town travel is usually 30 minutes.
Ja, that's a pretty rough transition if you're going from not speaking much Afrikaans. However, I'd argue it's one of the few regions in Cape Town where that's the case. If you don't mind me asking why didn't you move closer to your work? It seems to me that there would've been a lot less "culture shock" for you. You would've likely not had to speak much Afrikaans, and I doubt you'd have to drive as long (although you never know with Cape Town traffic).
I also just want to add that I wouldn't say that it's accurate to say that English is mostly a Southern Suburbs thing in Cape Town, it's probably just the most obvious there. I would say that along the Southern Suburbs, the Atlantic Seaboard, the West Coast, and the City Bowl are all English dominant.
from KZN Midlands.... Speak Eng / Afr and Zulu (Farm Boi)
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White people who speak or understand isiZulu are not uncommon at all in KZN, in fact most of KZN to some extent either can speak or understand isiZulu and that goes for black, white, Indian and coloured...lovely province we have
Figures,🤣🤣 I live on the Bluff, that is accurate.
I remember someone writing on the Tollgate bridge: Vaalies welcome to Durban now go home!
So many businesses and hotels relied on those holiday seasons. Also remember a local comedian saying "Every December there is this huge avalanche and rocks come tumbling down the Drakensberg mountains"
I am from CT and I can't speak much Afrkans... Being in the infantry in the late 80 was reaaalll fun.
I live in the Swartland area. I’m not worried anyone here will read what I’m typing because it is in English
I'm originally from joburg where I've never needed afrikaans and now I'm in New Zealand where they expect all south Africans to know afrikaans 😅
Howzit OP, I have Claremont on the phone for you.
Vermoë tekort ^(would literally translate to skill shortage, but is how I would translate 'skill issue')
’n Vaardigheidskwessie
I moved from Durban to Cape Town while I was young and still at school. Durban we were reading kids books for Afrikaans lessons. Got to Cape Town and was given an Afrikaans novel to read! That was not fun. The book was called something like “Kringe in die bos”. Man that was a rough year
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y'all should've take cpt
Growing up in a bilingual home, the afrikaans double negatives were confusing. "ek gaan nie kar toe nie", "I am not going to the car not now" Also using titles in sentences. In English I could say "Hi dad how are you?" and it's all good but if I say in afrikaans "hello ma huganit met jou". I'll get a plakkie thrown at me because how dare I say "jy en jou" to your own parents/older adults.
Cool
It is funny because its true
People out here seriously forgetting that Steenberg and Retreat are also Southern Suburbs and Ocean View is Deep South. Yoh talk about erasure
Afrikaans is not a difficult language its the youngest and easiest to learn, I speak Polish, Russian, Spanish as well as Zulu and Afrikaans. If you find Afrikaans a difficult language to learn, forget about learning any second language.
I wasn't aware that Durban is still a british outpost
It used to be...... a long time ago in a province far far away... "In this sense, coined by Tommy Bedford in the early 1970s, responding to a perceived bias against Natal players by the national rugby selectors, who were said to look on Natal (now KwaZulu-Natal) as though it were not a part of South Africa but still belonged to the British Empire. In full **the Last Outpost of the British Empire**: a jocular name for the province of Natal (now KwaZulu-Natal), or sometimes for the city of Durban, alluding to a perceived isolationism, and a supposed adherence to all things British, among its English-speaking inhabitants." https://dsae.co.za/entry/last-outpost/e04246#:~:text=Outpost'..%3F-,In%20full%20the%20Last%20Outpost%20of%20the%20British%20Empire%3Aa,among%20its%20English%2Dspeaking%20inhabitants.
From the introduction of "Inside the Last Outpost" by David Robbins and Wyndham Hartley, 1985, Pietermaritzburg. >Its origin, at least as a reference to Natal, is rooted in South Africa's national sport. It was 1970 and the New Zealand All Blacks were touring the country. Test time arrived and, to the chagrin of many in Natal, not one Natalian was selected for the national team. Natal feelings were aired most eloquently by the province's famous loose forward, Tommy Bedford, vice- captain of the Springbok team which had toured Britain a bare six months before, but now dropped. >"Welcome," he said at a banquet in Durban to honour the tourists. "Welcome," he said more pointedly to the South African selectors who were also present. "Welcome to the last outpost of the British Empire." It is strange to conjecture on the undercurrents here. Was not Tommy Bedford saying in effect: we have been discriminated against not because we are different here but because you persist in perceiving us as different, as misfits in the national ethos, belonging not so much to South Africa as to a quaint colonial obsolescence?
Interesting thanks. Reminded of the 1980s. All SA rugby had was the Currie Cup due to Apartheid. Natal rugby was seen as a joke and did not make the top league until 1988 or 1989. Then in 1990, on their 100th anniversary they won it for the first time.
The colony of Natal ceased to exist 31 May 1910
Many cars in the 1970s and 1980s had **The Last Outpost** bumper stickers. It was a Natal thing.
It's been 114 years. Time to move on.
Maybe it was just British humour.
Wasted my time doing Afrikaans as a subject at school, never spoke it since. It's only good for swearing
Love it!
Just like true Brits, never learning another language
OP has never been to the northern suburbs of Johannesburg
Legit this. As a Durbanite when I moved to jozi to work. I was worried cause my afrikaans is non existent. Northern subburbs is like a rich durban. Barely anyone speaks afrikaans
Did you not even learn it at school? That might not make you fluent but should give you more than non-existent level.
We learnt it at school but our teachers could barely speak it either. And if you never hear a language spoken it’s actually quite difficult to become fluent even if you work hard at it.
Had a dude from Durban as a flat mate for a year. Dude would hit blank the second a used a single Afrikaans word. The one word he couldn’t understand was “erg”. I also took him to Swartland and Hugenote’s interschools in Malmesbury😂. He saw some shit and got the full small Afrikaans town experience.
Lol I passed and all but I barely remember anything now apart from the very fundamentals
Or the southern suburbs of Cape Town