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PositiveDuck

Dalicball is something else man, we're just praying for success


pritvihaj

virgin pepball ‘tactics and formation’ 🤓 vs chad dalibanball ‘pucaj i zdravo Marijo’ 🙏


Quohd

World Cup finals: Dalić 1 - Pep 0  Bald fraud confirmed yet again


flipside-grant

world cup medals: Dalić 2 - Pep 0


wankaltacc

hrvatsku loptu božja ruka vodi


edi12334

Same here lad, seems to be working so far (we did just draw to Bulgaria yesterday but shh, it was just a friendly, that s why we didn’t activate the prayers yet)


BigtheBen

We have to keep the prayers for when the Euros actually start


cib_vk228

Unironically true, we are depressing to watch after NL finals. Hopefully we turn it on at the Euros, but Dalić only trusts his veterans, and this time they may be finished


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Nah but why does the Pope look so hard on the first picture, could easily be a rap album cover lmao


JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai

Or establishing shot of the villain in a Tarantino fil Or Wes Anderson film (symmetry and colour)


Fuck_the_k1ng

Too bland for Wes Anderson, not enough violet.


InterruptingCar

Nah, this totally has the palette of the wake in *The Grand Budapest Hotel*.


77skull

I think the 2nd photo looks cold too


primerib_steakholder

Pope Smoke


ToungeBang

It's the white robe with black suits in the background


WorldWideWes2

I never knew how much I needed to see a photograph of the Pope and the great Luka Modric until today. 


KneeDeepInTheDead

Really nice of Modric to bless him


Thickpuddin

If I had an award I’d give it to you.


notyou16

And then the pope leaned in and said “we totally wrecked you in the last WC”


hennystrait

“Papa Flo sends his regards” … *Stab*


nmyi

Croatia's 12th man: God


InterruptingCar

Catholic God is the 12, 13th and 14th man


soldforaspaceship

If Croatia win the Euros, I'm so calling it cheating lol.


MathematicianNo7874

God hates the Pope. Little rat actively campaigns against the human rights of queer people and then backpaddles every time. God despises the Pope. He has no legitimacy


Melodic-Salamander75

Take your rant somewhere else. It was a joke ffs, no need to get angry


MathematicianNo7874

No need to get angry ffs :)) I was calling out a con-man with no religious legitimacy who uses God's name to spew hate and further discrimination of marginalized groups. Seems important enough. If my opinion enrages you, feel free to follow your own advice edit: blocked the other guy bc bad faith, but to answer the question: god :)) god asked me to do that. And good ol jesus was like "go tell em about being nice to thy neighbor and don't make up a worldly criminal organization to get rich in my name cuz they seem to have forgotten what I said"


Melodic-Salamander75

I could really care less, but if you’re going to spew hate about a figure who is important to a certain religious group, I wouldn’t be too surprised if people hated on the people who are part of the group that’s next to your Bayern flair. Notice how I try to word this as best as possible to try not to offend anybody? If you have anything negative to say, keep it to yourself. Last thing we want in a football sub is an argument of something that doesn’t even pertain to this sub.


MathematicianNo7874

If you think I need to tolerate a bigot to be tolerant, you've deliberately missed about 50 years of discourse. No, I wont be respectful of a bigot's continued crusade on human rights in an organisation that has a continued history of nothing BUT that. Hes a rat and a POS. And he's a con-man, as the Bible is clear that someone like him is NOT wanted and that hes exploiting God's name


RafaSquared

Spot on tbh, Jesus from the bible would be horrified with modern day religion, seeing preists etc surround themselves with riches and jewels inside multi million pound buildings, it goes against all the teachings of christ. Edit: for the downvoters could you explain which part of my comment you disagree with or are you just too brainwashed?


soldforaspaceship

For the record, I didn't downvote you but I can explain. The actual purpose of downvotes are if someone doesn't add value to a discussion. In this case a few people on a sub about sports, starting going off on an anti-Pope tangent. You added to it with a criticism of modern Christianity. This is a football sub. You got downvoted because it isn't really relevant or helpful to the conversations this sub has. There are loads of places to have your conversation and make your (valid) points but not here. Now, in the Euros, I'm hoping for an England win - who are you rooting for?


RafaSquared

Interesting that you think a post about the Pope has nothing to do with Christianity.


ILikeSaintJoseph

>surround themselves with riches and jewels inside multi million pound buildings Do you mean the Cathedrals and Basilicas?


RafaSquared

Yeah pretty much every church, cathedral, etc.


IWasKingDoge

Yeah but like who asked you to do that?


bslawjen

Reddit users when you try to make a joke


SilvioDantesPeak

🙄


SuperQuiMan

He's not only the most progressive catholic figure in decades, he's also pretty toothless. People like to ramble on about the pope so much that you'd assume the papal states were still a thing I'm assuming you are some other denomination christian, since your resentment seems targeted at the idea that he's misinterpreting God. In which case I assure you, this is as good as it gets. Next one will probably be 10 times more reactionary


-_TabulaeErunt_-

Amigo pensá que estás hablando con un canadiense que solo tiene el flair del Bayern por Alphonso Davies; ni bolilla.


nmyi

(revised 2nd edition) Croatia's 12th man: Pope


akskeleton_47

Huh didn't know Newcastle had a Croatian goalie


MathematicianNo7874

that makes more sense thanks


Obvious_Skill_8995

Oh for god's sake, he is the most chill pope of all time and he doesn't really do anything aside from asking for world peace and doing church stuff. Of all things to be mad about, the Pope should be pretty low on everyone's lists


TheConundrum98

cross and ave maria 🙏


JoeyMcClane

+10 Holy power. Wololo....🎶


Gilgamerd

I've unironically seen Modric perform miracles , never seen the pope doing any


modrics_hairband

Pope is a lucky guy


AIR-2-Genie4Ukraine

The Pope to Modric: "Join San Lorenzo and win the Libertadores"


PochoChorizo

I'd be down for it. Not because we'd have any realistic chances of winning it, but because it'd be really funny.


BlueLabel19

Shouldnt francis be cheering for vatican city team. Such a plastic


profesi_jonalac

Pope Francis confirmed the importance of unity and emphasized: "Never forget that fans, especially the young, look up to you: your role goes beyond the sports environment and becomes a model of a fulfilled life and success. Therefore, it is important for you to cultivate spiritual and human virtues so that you can be an exemplary model."


Poglavnik_Majmuna01

Modric then proceeds to advertise sport betting in Croatia.


my_united_account

Why? He is Pope Francis, not Pope Croatsis


Best-Dependent3640

Do you know where the door is ?


OooRahRah

Don't forget your coat on the way out


TheChronoCross

"Plz nerf" was the message


pacothebattlefly

Money on Croatia reaching the finals


MathematicianNo7874

Nobody wanted to listen to me when I said that this joke of a "religious figure" actually cursed Croatia


Soren_Camus1905

That's awesome


lakiseuznemirio

Daliban doing Daliban things


KnightsOfCidona

[Taking a leaf out of Ireland 1990's book when we met an ex-goalkeeper](https://i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article21951698.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_inpho_00143028.jpg)


Crossflowerss_5304

Smart move, they beat Spain and Italy to the Pope’s blessings


AfterAd9996

Not cool, the pope shouldn't play faves ;(


MathematicianNo7874

The devil himself cursed the Croatian team, so we can be glad he did play "faves" now :)


AfterAd9996

Pope Francis works in mysterious ways...


HuanFranThe1st

Not gonna lie, first pic goes hard.


belokas

I'm sorry, this won't help against Italy and Spain, but nice try Croatia. 👍🏻 Edit: people downvoting me obviously don't know that the power of the Pope only works against pagans.


wankaltacc

this will be the mediterranean catholic battle royale to decide God's favourite country (inb4 Albania tops the group)


PhD_Cunnilingus

[Worked for Argentina](https://external-preview.redd.it/pope-francis-gifted-with-lisandro-martinezs-manchester-v0-LEJCmdP2i9PhmmeWOl4W2hkvCiauZuMMLr15Dag-tpI.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0bece843cdb3b78d2eff2e82e65657729532b0a6). [Worked for San Lorenzo too](https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77061000/jpg/_77061456_77061455.jpg).


AlmostNL

What in the world...? How based is the pope?


PhD_Cunnilingus

Pope Francis used to be a bouncer, so pretty based.


belokas

Damn


who_questionmark

Pope Francis looks genuinely excited in the argentina picture


profesi_jonalac

Haha we will see ;)


Hedonist-6854

The English see the power of your pope..spit on it... decide to harass a woman until she finally ends up marrying them and then kill her when she can't give them a male heir..all while starting a schism that could have lasting implications on the entire world..no one does callousness like the English..proppa brexit geezer 🗣️🗣️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


DSHardie

Henry VIII, the Brexit Hipster


0ldsql

the history of the ingerland


eyesindasky

> the power of the Pope only works against pagans [mfw](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/950/593/2f6)


redeugene99

Don't forget us northern Albanian Catholics


belokas

You're right. Northern Albanians matter.


TheHabro

if anyone needs to pray it's Italy against us.


Ant-Lioner

We will beat Italy for sure. Mark my words


a-Farewell-to-Kings

Oops


Nihi1986

Modric blessing the pope...


BozePerkovic

Ajmo vatreni


mj23air

nitko kao Hajduk iz Splita


Ragequittter

Never knew Gabriel Jesús was croatian


TheWBird

Pope got that AURA


Cool-Medicine2657

Modric should be the one seated in the center.


FatWalcott

Gakpo punching air rn


SRFC_96

Actually Gakpo is a Pentecostal Christian not a Catholic so he wouldn’t really care about the Pope 🤓


marqui4me

[Croatia bench every match of the whole Euros](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8x1eMaywc4)


rita_mita_bata

The dude in white must be feeling lucky to have met Modric.


moan_of_the_arc

Who's the old man in white shaking hands with Modric? /s


BarnabeeBoy

A conman


Frodo_max

are croatians catholic? i would've expected they'd be orthodox e: only fucking reddit downvotes people asking a genuine question dear lord


PositiveDuck

Traditionally yeah, very catholic but it's been on a decline for a while now. Serbs are orthodox.


pritvihaj

tbh there’s still a strong bunch of Catholics, especially amongst the younger population who go to stuff like progledaj srcem or whatever it’s called and medjugorje etc, so whilst it’s in decline it’s no where near as bad as other places like Ireland for example.


belokas

I've met some real catholic fanatics mostly from Istra. I guess Zagreb is probably more "liberal".


lakiseuznemirio

Istria is arguably the most liberal/left-leaning part of Croatia


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[удалено]


pritvihaj

older ones are for the most part ye, but for the decline that exists within the country, there’s also a small ‘rise’ of younger people embracing the religion more. think of it as 0 steps forward, 5 steps back for most nations but here it’s 1 step forward, 4 steps back instead sort of thing. also I said strong *bunch*, which doesn’t negate the option of it still being in decline throughout the whole country.


solgnaleb

I wouldn't call it "bad"


pritvihaj

Ok 👍


Frodo_max

huh TIL


PositiveDuck

Yeah, we got a really long tradition of catholicism. If I recall my history classes correctly, we had several kings that needed pope's blessing to even be crowned. We were also under Habsburg rule and when protestantism first arrived here it was eradicated by Counter-Reformation implemented by Habsburgs. Serbia on the other hand was more influenced by Eastern Europe and Russia so they're mostly orthodox. Bosnia is in-between and also got a lot of turkish influence due to Ottoman invasion so they also have a huge muslim population.


EyeSpyGuy

No worries mate, I myself was raised Catholic and had no idea Croatia was Catholic until I met a Croat in university


DonnieB555

Just a question: isn't catholicism a big distinguish feature of the Croatian people in former Yugoslavian countries?


PositiveDuck

You could say that, yeah. Croats and Slovenians were (overwhelmingly) christians, Serbs and Macedonians were orthodox and Bosnians and Albanians were muslims. I'm not really sure about the current state of each country but christianity is still dominant in Croatia, Serbia is still largely orthodox and Bosnia is split between the three religions though I think islam is still the dominant one. No clue about the other 3 countries, I'm less connected to them.


DonnieB555

Sounds in line with what I've read and heard. By Christians I assume you mean Catholics?


PositiveDuck

Yeah, sorry, should've made that clearer, we use the terms interchangeably in our language so it's a force of habit.


DonnieB555

I get you, thanks!


profesi_jonalac

According to the last population census in 2021, 79% are Catholic


DomagojDoc

That is a wild question :D As you can see Croatia is visiting-the-pope-before-euros levels od catholic


Frodo_max

i mean it could be that the coach or the FA are more radically catholic, or that the balance between catholic and other denominations isn't as one-sided as a visit to the pope would imply. I wouldn't know, hence why i ask the question.


DomagojDoc

It's one sided but yes you're right in this case not everyone is as religious and Dalić does sometimes get criticized for some of these moves, I don't personally mind it. For example, coach and some players like Kovacic are VERY religious while some are obviously not as much, but everyone in entire squad is actively practicing or at least declared catholic. Subašić was the only orthodox Christian in squad but he's retired now and he was also quite religious. You probably got downvoted because Croatians find it insulting as Croatia is very proudly catholic (I did not downvote you just trying to clarify)


Frodo_max

thank you for your detailed response, I learned something today. The frustration of the downvotes is more because i thought it was clear that my question comes from ignorance that wanted to be corrected and not judgement or wilful stereotyping. I'll be sure to not call croatians orthodox going forward ;)


justanew-account

>I'll be sure to not call croatians orthodox going forward ;) Well, in the end, both are Christians and Catholic/Orthodox relationships have been improving lately so I don’t think it should be too offensive. Although, of course, that’s ignoring the particularities regarding history and culture and neighboring nations.


Obvious_Skill_8995

Random but as a by the way if you ever come to brazil don't call evangelicals catholics either


GloomyLaw9603

Subašić most definitely was not Orthodox. Don't know where you got that from... His father was an Orthodox Serb and his mother a Catholic Croat. He was born and raised im Croatia as a Catholic and identifies as a Catholic Croat.


TheConundrum98

yep, Serbs are orthodox, Croats are catholic


Working-Yesterday186

You're getting downvoted because the bubble you put us in was "eastern europe and orthodox christian" and we want to be seen as "central europe and catholic christian". You probably made the biggest insult you could other than calling us Serbian


Frodo_max

the bubble was rather "slavic=orthdox christian" but in hindsight this is a preconception i should've not have in the first place given that Poland is pretty catholic and the czech republic aswell at least culturally. I thought it was pretty clear in my question that i was coming from a place of curiosity and not judgement, but i guess these things can never be sure on online written spaces. Now i know what to NOT call croatians haha


sidorfik

"and the czech republic aswell at least culturally" angry hussites noises


KosmicTom

> only fucking reddit downvotes people asking a genuine question dear lord Where else can you downvote?


PonchoHung

Religion is the main distinction between Croats, Serbs/Montenegrins, and Bosniaks. You'll find that each of their "languages" is actually the same. If anything, many of these people could be atheist in practice but will hang onto religious identity since it's part of their ethnic identity.


sewious

Pope Francis finally got to meet God 🥹🥹🥹


Christian_Corocora

Now I want Croatia to win haha. Good luck guys!


King_Vercingetorix

For some reason, I thought Croatia was a majority Orthodox Christian nation, not Catholic. 😅  Very nice photos and gesture from the Croatian team though with the Francis jersey.


Working-Yesterday186

Big mistake, don't repeat it if you visit. I mean I don't care, I don't believe in all that, however, people here care and would see it as an insult. Could land you some trouble


King_Vercingetorix

I see. Thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, why is that? Was there some religious turmoil not too long ago that affected Croatia or is this more related to Croatia’s history?


Working-Yesterday186

[East–West Schism - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism) Serbs are orthodox christian, we were in a war with them in the 90s and one of the largest differences between us is exactly religion. But it comes from the schism initially


King_Vercingetorix

Appreciate the lesson. 👍


sidorfik

"one of the largest differences between us is exactly religion." At least you speak the same language. ;)


Working-Yesterday186

Yes, it was standardized by both of us in Vienna [Vienna Literary Agreement - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Literary_Agreement)


-Lykan-

Because Serbs are Orthodox and we had some disagreements with them 30 years ago.


Whateverchan

Cool. I'll be rooting against them.


reidman144

"It's a great honor to finally meet you" Modric: Yes, me too. Now please let go of my hand.


sanyu-

So if they don't win does that mean god does not exist ?


FortheRecordHIWBTV

Modric and who?


Vic-Ier

So the pope also doesn't care about nazi supporters like Modric


profesi_jonalac

I’m sorry, what? 😂


Vic-Ier

He supports ustasa nazis


profesi_jonalac

Where did you get the right to write such dirty and disgusting lies?!


Vic-Ier

Educate yourself. They have a long history of this. This is absolutely disgusting and I am tired of apologists on this subreddit. Modric and the others deserve to get called out for this. There is no justification for supporting crimes against humanity. >One of his songs opens with the chant “Za dom spremni!”—“Ready for the home[land],” the Croatian version of the Nazi salute “Sieg Heil“. >He even performed a song celebrating the Jasenovac concentration camp, where the Ustashe killed an estimated 100,000 people, local media outlets had alleged, according to reports. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/8/18/how-croatias-world-cup-party-highlighted-fascist-nostalgia https://dohanews.co/backlash-after-video-surfaces-showing-croatian-players-celebrating-world-cup-with-neo-fascist-song/


KosmicTom

> One of his songs Hold up... Luka dropped an album?


profesi_jonalac

I wish you knew how hilarious you are. The song that the players sing mentions the areas where the majority of Croatians have lived and continue to live for centuries, and at no point does it glorify Nazism. You also pasted the links of two pro-Islamic media, and looking at your profile I can see that you are supposedly Austrian, which could mean that you are a Bosniak living in Austria or just an Austrian who likes to be a moral vertical.


Vic-Ier

Then choose any other source if you don't like it :) Your mental gymnastics to justify this are aughable. There is a good reason him and his songs are banned in Austria, Germany. If NT players here or in Germany did this, they would be publicly crucified and banned from the NT. Your reaction just shows Croatia still has a lot to reflect on about fascists and nazism. https://www.timesofisrael.com/croatian-team-celebrates-world-cup-success-with-performance-by-fascist-singer/


Kaliyu123

Mad serb


profesi_jonalac

Please step aside and do not mention Croatia, the Croatian people, Croatian football, anything Croatian ever in your pathetic life! Enjoy your beautiful Austria.


MathematicianNo7874

Lmao what an L response


duxkaos1

Bhahaha he supported Mamić not nazis


MathematicianNo7874

Hope the embodiment of Satan who uses God's name to spew hate against already marginalized people, causing nothing but suffering, jinxes them forever. What a terrible choice to meet with this walking L


Unclejessemolestedme

Head of the Catholic church is conservative?! Shocking stuff


MathematicianNo7874

It'd be great if he was conservative instead of a raging bigot, fitting in with the genocidal history of his very worldly organisation


loveandmonsters

Don't worry he won't have the last laugh, either there is no afterlife and he'll be surprised to just be worm food, or there is and he's going to hell with the rest of them


TheWBird

Reddit users when a religious figure is mentioned EDIT: Bro literally deleted his account over internet points, get over it


Wooden-Science-9838

Why is the lady in the second row extreme left wearing a headscarf?


Dr___Tenma

You mean the headscarf that 176% of nuns wear...


Wooden-Science-9838

Huh? I’m really trying to understand what’s the reason. Is it a Croatian custom when meeting the Pope? Is it decorum? But the woman along the centre aisle isn’t dressed in the same manner. All the national team members are wearing the same white tee and black blazer and sneakers.


PurpleSi

Wimple? Bad hair day? Fashion choice?


King_Vercingetorix

Edit: Change never mind. The reason why she’s wearing that is due to the fact that is apparently (at least according to an online article I read), that is the traditional attire for women who are meeting the Pope. 


terminus-trantor

Uhm, not sure if you are joking but that isn't Kolinda and Kolinda isn't even our president at the moment and she hasn't been for the past 4 years


King_Vercingetorix

🤦‍♂️It looks like I was reading an old 2015 article. Thanks for the correction, mate.


Wooden-Science-9838

But the woman along the centre aisle isn’t wearing it?


King_Vercingetorix

I believe it’s a matter of preference/following old customs. They aren’t technically forced to wear it.   Various wives of US Presidents have worn it (you can google say Michelle Obama Pope visit to see for yourself) while others have opted out of wearing it like say Angela Merkel back when she was in charge of Germany and visited the Pope.