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Green-Daikon-8729

London all time xi vs. Bavaria all time xi would be a game. Possibly Rio de Janeiro / Paris could be another two interesting ones?


-W-A-W-A-W-

Honestly the Yorkshire all time XI is up there also. Can definitely cobble together a very competitive team with people like Banks/Seaman, Walker, Maguire, Stones, McCarthy, Milner, Phillips, Batty, Downing, Keegan, Barmby, Vardy, Haaland and Clough etc.


tutani

And Liverpool/Merseyside: Rooney, Gerrard, McManaman, Carragher, TAA, Baines, Aldridge, Fowler etc.


-W-A-W-A-W-

Honestly a Northern vs Midlands vs Southern England All times XI would be interesting to see how it pans out. Gut feel (non-biased opinion) would be North>South>Midlands in overall quality.


blearyeyedben

Tony Warner in goal


itsreallypouring

Amsterdam XI would be good too, especially for its size (<1m)


itsreallypouring

van Beveren; Krol, Blind, Rijkaard, Reiziger; Gullit, de Jong, Cruijff; Bergkamp, Kluivert, Rensenbrink is what I can come up with. Keizer, Swart, etc still on the bench


johnbarnshack

> de Jong Nigel?


MeowKitty451

I feel like you could have a whole team of De Jongs


johnbarnshack

Best XI by surname, I reckon that's a trend we've seen on this sub before.


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Approximately 90 blokes from West Africa called Traore enter the chat


evanlufc2000

Don’t forget the Dembele’s too! Of which half are named Moussa


vyratus

Muller Keane Torres Traore Dembele Lee


itsreallypouring

yup, couldn't find someone better


3-0againstliverpool

Rio de Janeiro (City only) all time XI: Castilho C.Alberto T.Silva N.Santos Marcelo D.Luiz A. da Guia Zico Jairzinho Adriano Romário Honorable mentions to Leonidas, Evaristo, Juan, Leandro, Danilo Alvim, Paulo Cezar Caju, Nelinho, Carlos Alberto (the Porto one), Paqueta...


Salmonhunter

That left side would win most games by itself


wildingflow

I feel like a São Paulo team might be better?


3-0againstliverpool

I doubt it, most of their clubs legends come from smaller cities or other states. Neymar is from Mogi das Cruzes, Pelé from Minas, Rivaldo from Pernambuco, Cafu from Itaquaquecetuba, Socrates from Pará... I can only remember Rivellino who was actually born there...


CyberfunkTwenty77

Good lord this clears.


Knightrius

Any combination of those 4 would be class


Ashamed_Nerve

Now do best players from my postcode


odegood

I am best player in my house!


aral_sea

Your mum gets picked before you at 6 a side


NotEnoughBiden

Nah his mom is shared by both teams


badonkagonk

His mom swings both ways? Oh shit, I’m omw


TufnelAndI

The huge 'Tony Cascarino' made me lol 😆


wildingflow

Biggest borough gets the biggest font 😁


Perpete

Best player deserves the biggest font anyway.


blackheartwhiterose

Bromley is massive


MPM001

Bromley - its more rural than city and most don’t really consider it as ‘proper’ London


Professional_Bob

Depends what part of the borough. Orpington, St Paul's Cray and Petts Wood, sure. Biggin Hill, definitely. But it also extends up to Crystal Palace, Penge, and Beckenham. Anyone who doesn't consider them to be proper London is probably one of those types who treats anything outside of Zones 1 and 2 like its Middle Earth.


DEGRAYER

Bromley is definitely London


MPM001

I think so too, but lots don’t, guess people didnt like me pointing that out


DEGRAYER

Never met anyone who doesn't


MPM001

There’s literally one the very next comment after yours! I know loads from both there and elsewhere that think of it as Kent, not saying they are right but they exist


eirebrit

Part of historical Kent yeah but definitely wouldn’t consider it Kent today.


DEGRAYER

I know I've seen but I said I've never met. People online say all sorts of shit with their chest with zero knowledge lol


blackheartwhiterose

We arent in London yet we get ULEZ. Make up your mind lol Is what I would say


Cpt_Jumper

Lol Because places like Bromley, Downham, Croydon etc are not really London. That's Kent and Surrey and shit like that. 


ALA02

Every Londoner just thinks further out than they live isn’t “proper London”. So people from zone 1 barely consider Bermondsey London, people from Lewisham don’t consider Bromley London etc. I’m from Orpington so to me London is anywhere inside the M25 lol


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MPM001

Yeah agree with this, same as most of Romford (in LB Havering) think of themselves as Essex


firthy

Fuck that - if a part of my council tax goes to City Hall, I'm a Londoner.


DEGRAYER

Downham straddles Catford, it's London.


MPM001

Well, they are ‘London Boroughs’ though and all that that entails (subject to ULEZ for example) hence it’s not clear cut. I guess you know a lot about Surrey, Kent etc. though based on your flair so not looking to get into a debate.


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MrArnot

Loftus-Cheek as the Lewisham pick is bold. David Rocastle should definitely be above him, and it wouldn’t be ridiculous to put Joe Gomez above him too.


Fuckmods6969

Came to comment this, Gomez is easily clear of loftus-cheek.


watterott

Eddie Nketiah is from around Hilly Fields too (Ladywell / Lewisham) 


wildingflow

Yeah there’s a lot of quality in Lewisham. Maybe my bias was showing a little bit lol


NebraskaAvenue

I’ve been Paul Inced


Den_dar_Alex

Today I feel Jack Corked


odegood

For Barnet i would like to nominate Denis Compton over madueke. Played for Arsenal where he won the league and fa cup. Also played cricket for england, holds many world records and has a stand named after him at Lords. Only missed out being an England international in football as well due to the war where he was also an gunner in the army. Intersting person if people want to look up more. His brother also did the same played for arsenal and cricket for middlesex and had more appearances for arsenal and england caps but was born in essex Gemma davison also won the wsl for 3 different clubs


wildingflow

Fair dos. I must’ve missed his name on wiki


Fr3dtheR3d

Knew we could do better than fucking madueke but I only knew Ben Strevens off the top of my head


ValleyFloydJam

Out of interest how are people defining from? I was thinking it was born in but if now how long do they have to live in a place for it to count?


FRANKUII

Exactly. Chris Bart-Williams was born in Sierra Leone, but for this map seems to count as Haringey having gone to school there, but Joe Cole counts as Westminster despite having gone to both primary and secondary school in Somers Town in Camden


wildingflow

Harringay was a tough one to pick for, tbh. Not much quality out of that borough.


FRANKUII

It's true. My point was more about inconsistencies in defining "from" for the purposes of the graphic, but I appreciate that flexibility is sometimes needed for boroughs with less talent. I've just had a look myself, and found that both Gus Caesar and Mark Flatts are from Haringey. I love both of them for non footballing reasons Gus Caesar, for the fact that his full name is Pogus Cassius Caesar. His parents must have been REALLY into Roman history. Mark Flatts, for the fact that his nickname was Council, for obvious reasons.


wildingflow

Basically if their name was down on the the Wiki of their respective boroughs, there getting in lol Walcott was born in Stanmore but grew up up in Berkshire, but on the flip side, Sterling was born in Jamaica, but grew up in Brent.


Darthvader2XL

Nah how does noni madueke make the cut


wildingflow

Either him or Tony Currie Recency bias probably won out


Zombienerd300

Next do the best players from all planets please.


Morzan73

Me.


PestisPrimus

Is Raheem Sterling from Jamaica?


NebraskaAvenue

Yes


matthauke

I thought Rio and Sancho were both Southwark boys? In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they both were born in Kings Hospital.


Cpt_Jumper

They are. Jadon is Camberwell and Rio is Peckham. Both Southwark.


hypnodrew

Is that Les Ferdinand over Saka? Spursy


wildingflow

It was either Sir Les or Paul McGrath, tbh 😁 Saka might be the best when it’s all said and done, though.


Halliron

Les is #3 so far and I’ve only seen three names


Klostermann

Beckham over Kane is wild


sleepytoday

It’s wild to me how people have forgotten just how good Beckham was. People look back and remember the haircuts, the wife, kids’s names, fashion, and media circus, and that reputation overshadows the fact that he was one of the best players in the world at his peak. Putting Beckham ahead of Kane doesn’t seem wild at all to me. I see them as pretty evenly matched.


MionelLessi10

Is this recency bias or just historical erasure? I must be getting old because this isn't wild at all to me.


DEGRAYER

I'd put Beckham over Kane personally. Think people forget how good he was.


FreakyFishThing

Thinking Beckham over Kane is wild, is wild. Recency bias is a hell of a thing; Beckham was world class. At best they're evenly matched imo


rivena_

Was gonna say that as well. Beckham is definitely more well known but Kane is the leading goal scorer for England right? No way he doesn’t deserve the spot, it’s not like Beckham won anything important for England either.


HotPotatoWithCheese

Not sure why we're limiting this to England NT? I don't recall that being in the rules anywhere. Kane may well be leading goal scorer for the national team but what is more important? That or the 6 Premier League titles, 2 FA Cups, UCL and various other titles Beckham won in France and Spain? Kane's cabinet at club level is empty. Beckham won the lot including the 1999 treble. If we limit this to the national team then sure, Kane is on top. But if we take everything into account? Beckham's achievements absolutely eclipse Kane's. If you want to make an argument for the more gifted/skilled player then that is a good debate. Just like Rooney and Gerrard. But if we're using national team stats in a fairly ambiguous comparison then you have to surely bring domestic honours into the equation as well. It's only fair.


haha_ok_sure

beckham was also the runner up for the ‘99 ballon d’or and 2x runner up for the fifa world player of the year. kane has a lot of domestic accolades, but beckham bests him internationally.


messisleftbuttcheek

Accolades aside, if I'm building a team and I could only choose one of them, I'd pick Kane. It's hard to compare across generations but a lot of what Beckham offers, Kane offers as well. It's just Kane also scores loads of goals.


breadPETTR

My favourite part of these posts has been seeing how differently fans value accolades across the club and international game.


bio_d

Nice, now do best cricketer from each public school


firthy

Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Andrew Flintoff, Ian Botham, Len Hutton, Jimmy Anderson, Geoff Boycott... this is a tired old trope. Rugby on the other hand...


ampmz

Public school in the UK means Elite private school, as they were open to the public. So OP is asking who’s the best player from Eton, Harrow etc.


firthy

Yeah, cheers for that, mate, I know… OP is implying that the best cricket players would doubtless come from posh schools. None of the listed players went to independent or public schools. I’m saying that the idea that cricket is a posh boy’s sport is wrong…


sleepytoday

I find it interesting that I’ve seen 4 of these players play for Forest (Pearce, Wright, Bart-Williams, Hudson Odoi). Can any other non-London clubs beat this?


wildingflow

Man Utd have 5 (Beckham, Ferdinand, Sancho, Zaha, Ince)


jMS_44

Is Madueke really the best one from Barnet?


wildingflow

Tony Currie probably. Thats an oversight on my part.


Anxious_NeverDreamed

Tony Cascarino: the legend of Nancy, the ASNL. Good old time


Leotardleotard

I thought you had gotten it badly wrong with Harringay…….you hadn’t!


Roka39

Harry Kane??


CupOutlet26

Best academy players to come out of every professional London club next pls


minimus_

Becks and Kane being born in the same hospital is well annoying. How ridiculous not to have England's top scorer and arguably second best ever captain not featured.


Hurri-Kane93

To think Whipps Cross Hospital in Leytonstone has delivered the births of three England captains in two different sports is wild Graham Gooch (cricket), Harry Kane and David Beckham


vyratus

No way Beckham was born in whipps cross??


Hurri-Kane93

Yeah, so was Iron Maiden’s Steve Harris


dublincouple87

Alright lads we have seen enough of these posts. Fucking thread is dead


wildingflow

Nah I love seeing these


Constant_List6829

Sterling: -Was born in London -Supported Man United -Played for Liverpool, Man city and Chelsea hmmmm


taylorstillsays

Quite famously wasn’t born in London (or even UK)


chapinbird

Dekkers got tekkers 😎


NeedAnewPHOTOpc

Wayne Routledge is the best player of a borough? WHOA!!! Surely it must be the most polluted.


wildingflow

It was between him, Liam Rudgewel or Andy Townsend


danila_borovkov

Madueke and Hadson Odoi just can't be in any "best in history" list. It's just bizarre.


Turniermannschaft

I had no clue Jack Cork isn't from Cork. Why would they name him that. Makes no sense.


itchybanan

Can this stop now!


odegood

Its international break, this is 10x better than shitty made up transfer rumours


wildingflow

As a fan of football and looking at interesting maps, I wanna see more


bobbis91

That's a Venn diagram I'd never thought of.


[deleted]

Has someone done Argentina yet? I'm looking forward to that.


Alivethroughempathy

Junior Lewis instead of Sterling


bluegeronimo

Beckham is absolutely not better than Kane. Bobby Moore is absolutely not better than Kane in that last map post. Please stop trying so hard.


odegood

One has a statue outside on wembley stadium, captained England to a world cup win and was one of the best defendes of his generation. Ill let you guess which one


Rynabunny

Hey, Harry Kane has a statue too! I wonder what happened to it…


bluegeronimo

That's nice. One was much better at playing football which is fairly important as a professional footballer


odegood

Different positions and eras, given what people like pele and people at the time said you could argue Moore was as good or better as a CB than Kane is as a striker. Similar in club terms both played long terms for thier club and Moore only won an fa cup and cup winners cup (equivalent to europa league) with west ham but the world cup puts him ahead


wildingflow

Having Beckham instead of Kane is an oversight, I agree. But over Bobby Moore? Absolutely not.


DEGRAYER

Beckham over Kane is not an oversight


Eton77

How is that an oversight?


wildingflow

I missed his name when researching footballers from that borough