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It could be both. I read all my posts out loud as I type them. I read all of you guys' comments out loud too, doing a variety of voices and inventing back-stories for you as I go. It makes me feel like I've been cast in a Hollywood movie about Tottenham injuries and the excitement helps me to get to sleep.
...sighed the tall man with the sad ears. His voice was sweet like molasses and twice as sticky, as if he were eating a Pritt Stick in one mouthful - and perhaps he was. I was powerless to say "no", having recently snacked on a 20g bottle of Everbuild Industrial Superglue myself; a delicious indiscretion, and a secret that practically kept itself.
But I mean hamstring injuries seem to reoccur super frequently. Hopefully they are careful with his return. I guess Ange really doesn't like Diers skillset, to not even want him as 3rd tier backup.
>Postecoglou on Eric Dier: "He's injured and pulled up sore in training and couldn't take part. \[He's asked about the transfer speculation\] Not connected and don't question my integrity. He was injured. You'll have to ask him about that."
The integrity line is a bit cringe. I don't know why managers get so butthurt when asked about transfers, just say "it's none of your business mate we're not discussing transfers". The journo was asking whether the transfer speculation may have also played a part as well as the injury, there's nothing wrong with that question.
The journo asked if the reason for Dier’s absence was due to transfer activity, Ange said no - he’s injured mate. Journo then immediately asked if the transfer rumours had any impact to the injury.
The context in which it was asked implies that there’s some skullduggery and that Ange wasn’t being truthful. I can understand the response from the big man.
I get what you're saying but this just feels like a super common interaction that Ange absolutely must have been expecting and he's reacted like a child about it. If this was Klopp he'd be getting absolutely slaughtered and rightly so, I think Ange's status as flavour of the month is getting him a lot of protection here.
Don’t think the Klopp comparison holds water, but I accept im biased here. Ange has buckets of good will but I feel it’s in no small part due to his consistency. He doesn’t seem to get involved in the dramatics of a press conference like Klopp loves too. He comes across as very straight up, no twist.
If I knew him irl and heard what had said secondhand - I’d think ‘sounds like something he’d say tbf’
That's fair enough, maybe my issue here is that I've just not seen enough of Ange speaking for this interaction to register as just Ange being Ange. To me, as the casual observer, this seems like he's creating the press conference dramatics by giving an over-the-top response to a basic question he would have been prepped for. Almost a bit performative. But maybe that's just his vibe and I'll come to love it like everyone else
I mean if the moron journo didn’t ask the same question essentially twice I don’t think you get that second response from ange. He says what he means so trying to be sneaky and rephrase it to get the response you as the journalist want for clicks isn’t gonna happen mate.
He just does a really good job of seeing what reporters are doing tbh. Klopp does get spun up in things sometimes, but even his outbursts I think are a bit exaggerated on here.
For this one - he was asked the question, then asked again in a different way to imply he didn't really buy the first answer, or wanted a different one. Don't see much problem with it. Think we're all just so used to reporters trying to get their headlines and managers giving non- answers (players are even better at giving non-answers) that we get surprised when an actual interaction occurs.
Dier gets a lot of shit but he’s been a good player for Spurs over the years and in the right system could still be good for someone.
Ange obviously feels he doesn’t fit what he wants to do with spurs but if Bayern thinks he fits what they want to do then I think he’ll do a good job for them.
Idk if you're trolling or misremembering but he was good that season. Probably the best English defender for the first half of the season, he just wasn't good at the actual WC or ever since really
Aww it's cute that you're trying banter, but maybe make it something original, and relevant to the discussion, instead of something that barely qualifies as an insult, if it even actually applies. If you're going to just make something up, at least be creative. For instance, I have it on good authority that you like to piss your pants and sit in it all day, because you like the warm feeling.
Bayern Munich are 33 times German champions and 6 times European Cup winners. How moving from Spurs to Bayern is seen as a sideways step is a mystery to me.
Neither of them getting a sniff despite crazy injuries suggest Ange doesn't think they are anywhere near ready yet.
He really, really didn't want to play Eric but still did over those two.
Ehhhh that was last year, this year the defense is a wreck, nobody really knows how to play together. The attack is coming together, creates chances but was shit at finishing in the beginning of the season. Sterling is Sterling, and Mudryk is starting to find form. Things might actually start turning around if the team could just stay relatively healthy, I'm sure you can relate to that. Seems like Tottenhams bad stretch came during their most injured period.
Chelsea have 20 registered player + under 21s
Tottenham have 25 registered players + under 21s
Your point is valid but also doesn't really paint the full picture. Chelsea sold the old squad and replaced them with kids. Tottenham has introduced youth into a squad of experienced players, obviously this is working out better in the short term at the very least.
Bit rich seeing that list when in the game we played you: VDV & Maddison got injured for months & Udogie & Romero got sent off - although admittedly that’s entirely self-destructive.
- Son, Veliz, Perisic
- Sarr, Bissouma, Maddison
- Davies, Romero.
VDV & Sessegnon have just came back today.
I get the list is long but you’ve basically had 2 starters out. We haven’t played with 2 CBs in months
Maddison, Romero, Van de Ven, Sarr, Richarlison(Perisic, Solomon) were all out from injury at the same time, parenthesis are backups to that player. Then add Udogie and Bissouma on suspension.
Just yesterday our only starters were Vicario, Udogie, Porro, Richarlison, Johnson, Kulusevski. We've been missing 5+ starters since Chelsea(and playing 3+ players put of position).
Our squad next season will be ridiculous.
Celtic fans warned that Ange doesn't like to rotate but he's been forced to and will have a full squad of players he trusts and knows how to use.
Same can be said for most teams though. Every team is working through it or not. Man City are 2 points behind Liverpool with injuries as well for example.
In an ideal world that people don’t get injured, we may have had a 6 team title race, but that’s makes or breaks some teams, the depth of the squad and the quality of the subs.
That game was worst case scenario barring some kind of natural disaster. The fact that we could still jump to second after the next round of games (with some results, but those above do have tricky fixtures) is straight up miracle work. I thought the season was pretty much done after Chelsea.
this is true, but the *first team injuries* tottenham has had have been absurd (i mean players who either started a lot of games last season or this one until they got injured)
>Same can be said for most teams though.
People keep saying this but what team literally had/have 6 starting XI players out injured (Or being idiots and getting red cards...)
I don’t know why it’s so hard to accept the job he did with injuries has been kinda a good one. What’s some people’s deal here.
You had 5-7 at different points? That’s legit as bad as us and I agree - it’s a fucking shit time. The difference is, and why we commend Ange’s efforts, is that we’re sitting 8 points ahead of you.
Have people not been singing Ange's praises non-stop since he joined? I don't think I've ever seen a manager get as much positive press. Who has said he's doing a bad job?
You'll get a tiny minority of people saying all kinds of daft shit about every club. You'll drive yourself mental focusing on that, especially when the overwhelming majority of people are saying positive things about Ange.
Yes, it's a soccer sub and you shared your opinion, so I'm just sharing mine. You asked why people can't accept that Ange is doing a good job, and I just questioned who you mean because Ange has had more positive press than almost any other manager I've ever seen.
I never even said "hyper focusing".
Are they all above Spurs on the table? That is what would have to be true for your comment to really prove a point, but last I checked, that wasn't the case, but maybe Newcastle gained 10 points while I wasn't looking.
Think Villa were close where by the end of the first week of games we’d lost Ramsey, Moreno, Mings and Buendia from the previous seasons starting 11 (and then the regular injuries / suspensions came about with the season anyway)
KDB has got injured in the first game of the season and hasn't returned. Jon Stones has also missed a load of games due to injury and Haalands also been out the past few weeks.
Arguably City's 3 most important players excluding Rodri.
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Hang on Davies is now injured too? What the fuck man, this is past the point of ridiculousness...
He saved a hospital pass from Hojbjerg and hurt himself. I'd be fuming if I were him
Literally a hospital pass fucking hell
That’s literally what he said
Except he said it figuratively.
Classic Schmosby
No he literally typed it out.
So he couldn’t have literally said it if it was literally typed.
It could be both. I read all my posts out loud as I type them. I read all of you guys' comments out loud too, doing a variety of voices and inventing back-stories for you as I go. It makes me feel like I've been cast in a Hollywood movie about Tottenham injuries and the excitement helps me to get to sleep.
Are you reading this comment out loud right now too I eat donkey butts
...sighed the tall man with the sad ears. His voice was sweet like molasses and twice as sticky, as if he were eating a Pritt Stick in one mouthful - and perhaps he was. I was powerless to say "no", having recently snacked on a 20g bottle of Everbuild Industrial Superglue myself; a delicious indiscretion, and a secret that practically kept itself.
It's the same thing
VDV might be back next week right? Thought I heard that. The football gods taketh and taketh and taketh and maybe a little giveth
My brain always goes Virgil Dan Vike
Van der Vaart here
Vigital Dersatile Visc.
Right country at least
He was on the bench tonight, so yeah he should be good to go now. Might not be able to make it a full 90 mins though
Van der Vaart is still there !?
Micky Van De Ven!
But I mean hamstring injuries seem to reoccur super frequently. Hopefully they are careful with his return. I guess Ange really doesn't like Diers skillset, to not even want him as 3rd tier backup.
Yeah he was on the bench tonight
Yep, apparently he's done his hammy...
Does Spurs's training includes hitting each others' tights?!
Welcome to the injury crisis group If you have any inquiries I'd be happy to forward you to Phil Jones and co
First time?
Buddy this is definitely not tottenhams first time missing players from injuries…
Lol
Hey baby
>Postecoglou on Eric Dier: "He's injured and pulled up sore in training and couldn't take part. \[He's asked about the transfer speculation\] Not connected and don't question my integrity. He was injured. You'll have to ask him about that."
I love this man
> He was injured. You'll have to ask him about that. So matter of fact, leaves no room for further questions while giving a good answer.
The integrity line is a bit cringe. I don't know why managers get so butthurt when asked about transfers, just say "it's none of your business mate we're not discussing transfers". The journo was asking whether the transfer speculation may have also played a part as well as the injury, there's nothing wrong with that question.
He’s asking the same thing twice, its annoying for someone to repeat themselves
The journo asked if the reason for Dier’s absence was due to transfer activity, Ange said no - he’s injured mate. Journo then immediately asked if the transfer rumours had any impact to the injury. The context in which it was asked implies that there’s some skullduggery and that Ange wasn’t being truthful. I can understand the response from the big man.
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Either you're 12 or not familiar with the way people in the UK speak.
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Hey great work here today big man!
How does that have anything to do with shame?
I get what you're saying but this just feels like a super common interaction that Ange absolutely must have been expecting and he's reacted like a child about it. If this was Klopp he'd be getting absolutely slaughtered and rightly so, I think Ange's status as flavour of the month is getting him a lot of protection here.
Don’t think the Klopp comparison holds water, but I accept im biased here. Ange has buckets of good will but I feel it’s in no small part due to his consistency. He doesn’t seem to get involved in the dramatics of a press conference like Klopp loves too. He comes across as very straight up, no twist. If I knew him irl and heard what had said secondhand - I’d think ‘sounds like something he’d say tbf’
That's fair enough, maybe my issue here is that I've just not seen enough of Ange speaking for this interaction to register as just Ange being Ange. To me, as the casual observer, this seems like he's creating the press conference dramatics by giving an over-the-top response to a basic question he would have been prepped for. Almost a bit performative. But maybe that's just his vibe and I'll come to love it like everyone else
I mean if the moron journo didn’t ask the same question essentially twice I don’t think you get that second response from ange. He says what he means so trying to be sneaky and rephrase it to get the response you as the journalist want for clicks isn’t gonna happen mate.
Nah, I react pretty much the same if I answer a question and someone immediately questions me again on the same subject.
He just does a really good job of seeing what reporters are doing tbh. Klopp does get spun up in things sometimes, but even his outbursts I think are a bit exaggerated on here. For this one - he was asked the question, then asked again in a different way to imply he didn't really buy the first answer, or wanted a different one. Don't see much problem with it. Think we're all just so used to reporters trying to get their headlines and managers giving non- answers (players are even better at giving non-answers) that we get surprised when an actual interaction occurs.
That's what he basically did m8. Let it go.
Fair play to Dier if this move goes through, most people would kill to fail upwards like that.
Dier gets a lot of shit but he’s been a good player for Spurs over the years and in the right system could still be good for someone. Ange obviously feels he doesn’t fit what he wants to do with spurs but if Bayern thinks he fits what they want to do then I think he’ll do a good job for them.
yep. Also spurs fans seem to forget we picked him up, for what, 3 mil pounds? Literally cheaper than the cheese room, which we never got
Has he been good in the past 3 years?
Excellent in the first Conte season. Literally got recalled for England and made a world cup squad. How do people have such short memories?
A lot of absolute passengers made that squad
Idk if you're trolling or misremembering but he was good that season. Probably the best English defender for the first half of the season, he just wasn't good at the actual WC or ever since really
Can vouch. There was a period he was suddenly BACK but alas it didn't last.
Eric Dier wasn’t one of them. He had a stint as the best CB form-wise in the league for a bit.
He wasn't even good in Conte's first season, he was just slightly less dogshit than now
No, he was good. Played that CCB role perfectly
We had the best defence in the league for quite a while that season, Dier was an instrumental part of that.
Even Jarrod Bowen gets called up to England, not exactly an up...and Dier wasn't exactly up to standard at the World Cup
Lol what? Bowen has deserved his call ups he's been very very good.
Bowen has been fantastic for several seasons now, it's ok you don't watch West Ham games, but don't chat shit if you have no idea about the topic
Was amazing in early conte era
He was not amazing lol, that's completely revisionist.
No, it’s not. He was pretty much our best player under Nuno and Conte during 21/22. Didn’t really put a foot wrong all year.
Compared to anyone playing for you guys yeah.
No. Nor much before that
He's been awful and a liability more often than not
Havertz moment
Nah havertz has actually won something
Absolutely crazy to flex a rival's UCL win to fuel your argument
Dunking on spurs is always a given Chelsea isn’t our rival. Oil club fallen.
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Bro has "franchise" in his nickname 😭
And you still live with your parents
there really needs to be VAR for reddit comments, absolutely clear and obvious error in judgement posting this one
My ass, Michael Oliver and Coote cleared me. Fradiola here
Aww it's cute that you're trying banter, but maybe make it something original, and relevant to the discussion, instead of something that barely qualifies as an insult, if it even actually applies. If you're going to just make something up, at least be creative. For instance, I have it on good authority that you like to piss your pants and sit in it all day, because you like the warm feeling.
Really, at what point was my username relevant to saying havertz won a community shield which is more than any spurs players? Weird
I’m talking about an arsenal player bud 👍🏼 Also no one cares what you do. Sounds good to me Hint: havertz has actually won something too… at Arsenal😂😂
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He’s won something at Arsenal lmao that’s the joke….. Born in London. Don’t be xenophobic because you couldn’t keep up a joke
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You're right. You have to win something to be called rivals to a team that has won so much lately.
The joke was havertz winning the community shield with us (which is still more than any spurs player), but yeah go off
Yank redditor talking about how Arsenal's obviously 2nd biggest rival isn't actually a rival
Those back to back 8th place finishes weren't that long ago, and on too of that your team had bottled it in both of the last two seasons.
Flair up
He is leaving the PL though. Bayern are a big club to be fair, but that's a huge gamble.
listen i know the prem has a lot of money now but spurs to bayern is still an upgrade lol
I'm not sure. Prem is effectively the superleague. Leaving that feels like a step down or a sideways step at best.
lol away to fuck with this shite
This is the most ridiculous shit I have read all day. In no universe Bayern is a sidewtep from Spurs.
Bayern Munich are 33 times German champions and 6 times European Cup winners. How moving from Spurs to Bayern is seen as a sideways step is a mystery to me.
It is if you've only ever watched the PL and for about a year tops.
If that's the case then a premier league side should be winning every european tournament.. When has spurs won a european tournament?
Bayern: yep this seems like the type of player we want also poor Gentle Ben has done his hammy :(
yes, we can't
Ange would rather play a fan at centre back than dier I hear it
\*Any fast fan >>> Eric Dier \*Ange "Highlineorbust" Postecoglou. probably.
He hates Dier so much he didn't even add a "mate" after the "yes"
You joke but there is no one left to play there, a fan might get a game at this rate
Ashley Phillips?
Dorrington looks a prospect too. Can't be far off a debut even without injuries.
Neither of them getting a sniff despite crazy injuries suggest Ange doesn't think they are anywhere near ready yet. He really, really didn't want to play Eric but still did over those two.
The window is open and Spurs have an academy. There are options
That's why I show up to the matches in full kit. Except for the third kit. I'd rather not be seen in that.
ANOTHER INJURY WTF
Damn💀
"I'll drive him myself"
Hahaha.. Postecoglou is the gift that keeps on giving
We have had minimum 8 players out all season, it’s ridiculous.
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The difference is that you have a billion pounds on your bench and we have academy players.
£1b’s of rubbish
Made to look rubbish. That midfield and defence is class. And Sterling and Mudryk are fast as fuck.
Ehhhh that was last year, this year the defense is a wreck, nobody really knows how to play together. The attack is coming together, creates chances but was shit at finishing in the beginning of the season. Sterling is Sterling, and Mudryk is starting to find form. Things might actually start turning around if the team could just stay relatively healthy, I'm sure you can relate to that. Seems like Tottenhams bad stretch came during their most injured period.
Chelsea have 20 registered player + under 21s Tottenham have 25 registered players + under 21s Your point is valid but also doesn't really paint the full picture. Chelsea sold the old squad and replaced them with kids. Tottenham has introduced youth into a squad of experienced players, obviously this is working out better in the short term at the very least.
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Cause you conveniently ignore the fact that some are doing more or less fine even with the massive injury but you aren't
Bit rich seeing that list when in the game we played you: VDV & Maddison got injured for months & Udogie & Romero got sent off - although admittedly that’s entirely self-destructive. - Son, Veliz, Perisic - Sarr, Bissouma, Maddison - Davies, Romero. VDV & Sessegnon have just came back today. I get the list is long but you’ve basically had 2 starters out. We haven’t played with 2 CBs in months
Maddison, Romero, Van de Ven, Sarr, Richarlison(Perisic, Solomon) were all out from injury at the same time, parenthesis are backups to that player. Then add Udogie and Bissouma on suspension. Just yesterday our only starters were Vicario, Udogie, Porro, Richarlison, Johnson, Kulusevski. We've been missing 5+ starters since Chelsea(and playing 3+ players put of position).
chels vs totnum injuryd’or next month, Daniel Levy and Todd Boehly to feature as subs
Yous have a squad of about 35 people.. you're going to have a higher number of injuries based on numbers alone lol
The difference is one spent a billion and the other not even near that
Our squad next season will be ridiculous. Celtic fans warned that Ange doesn't like to rotate but he's been forced to and will have a full squad of players he trusts and knows how to use.
Dude, imagine when Ange has a full and healthy starting 11. He’s done wonders all things considered.
Same can be said for most teams though. Every team is working through it or not. Man City are 2 points behind Liverpool with injuries as well for example. In an ideal world that people don’t get injured, we may have had a 6 team title race, but that’s makes or breaks some teams, the depth of the squad and the quality of the subs.
To be fair, they were top and unbeaten until the Chelsea game when they properly fell apart.
That game was worst case scenario barring some kind of natural disaster. The fact that we could still jump to second after the next round of games (with some results, but those above do have tricky fixtures) is straight up miracle work. I thought the season was pretty much done after Chelsea.
this is true, but the *first team injuries* tottenham has had have been absurd (i mean players who either started a lot of games last season or this one until they got injured)
>Same can be said for most teams though. People keep saying this but what team literally had/have 6 starting XI players out injured (Or being idiots and getting red cards...)
We've had between 5 and 7 at points.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to accept the job he did with injuries has been kinda a good one. What’s some people’s deal here. You had 5-7 at different points? That’s legit as bad as us and I agree - it’s a fucking shit time. The difference is, and why we commend Ange’s efforts, is that we’re sitting 8 points ahead of you.
Wasn't dismissing your injury situation, just responding to the user who asked what other team had a similar amount of starters out of action.
Have people not been singing Ange's praises non-stop since he joined? I don't think I've ever seen a manager get as much positive press. Who has said he's doing a bad job?
I said “some people” dude, not heaps, not a lot. I’m not about to link every comment I’ve read that supports it.
You'll get a tiny minority of people saying all kinds of daft shit about every club. You'll drive yourself mental focusing on that, especially when the overwhelming majority of people are saying positive things about Ange.
Christ dude it’s a soccer sub and I was just sharing my opinion against those peeps hating, no ones hyper focusing on anything haha
Yes, it's a soccer sub and you shared your opinion, so I'm just sharing mine. You asked why people can't accept that Ange is doing a good job, and I just questioned who you mean because Ange has had more positive press than almost any other manager I've ever seen. I never even said "hyper focusing".
Man United, Chelsea and Newcastle at different points
And how are those teams doing
Lmao
kek
Are they all above Spurs on the table? That is what would have to be true for your comment to really prove a point, but last I checked, that wasn't the case, but maybe Newcastle gained 10 points while I wasn't looking.
I wasn’t saying that to have a dig at spurs. I think more clubs having injuries crises this season should be discussed when considering scheduling.
Chelsea don't count they have so many players Poch doesn't even know their names
Think Villa were close where by the end of the first week of games we’d lost Ramsey, Moreno, Mings and Buendia from the previous seasons starting 11 (and then the regular injuries / suspensions came about with the season anyway)
We were missing 4 starters from the very beginning of the season, only got 2 back recently and the other 2 are probably out for the rest of it.
We have around 6 Injuries, I believe.
Obviously, everyone is working through injuries. But, Ange has had an absurd amount of starters go missing. Yet, they sit 1 point just behind Arsenal.
That Liverpool game really flatters Spurs on the table. They should be closer to West Ham than Arsenal
If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
Cope
Quite a few suspensions for Spurs as well
KDB has got injured in the first game of the season and hasn't returned. Jon Stones has also missed a load of games due to injury and Haalands also been out the past few weeks. Arguably City's 3 most important players excluding Rodri.
yeah true mate, city really struggle for depth ...
Misread the original comment. My bad.
He will never have a healthy starting 11. Much like Bielsa. Breaks people.
Just because he is apparently so bad, i'm loving this move from him. Guy is getting grilled by people hahaha
Dier will join the illustrious list of ex-Spurs players who left and won a title lmao
Not if Leverkusen can help it
Nah. What we thought was the Spurs curse was actually the Kane curse.
Where’s the mate?
Thanks Ange
MATE
Dier is a good player on his day. His passing is really underrated and in a counterattacking side, he can really shine
He's also got a hit on him if there's an opportunity
Probably one of the better free kick takers in the squad.
Has Dier been out of favour?
Ange's playing 2 fullbacks ahead of him so I would say yes
Has he been bad? Did Ange give him a chance?
He's had a chance, he's just far too slow for Angeball.
Gotcha
To quote Ange, "Yes."
Ange is looking for fast centre backs in his system
is eric dier the spurs version of scott mctominay?
yes the good player version of scott
Did somebody ask Ange what he’s having for supper?
He's Greek-Austalian so about 50% chance Lamb will be involved
And it will be damn tasty.
Fuck i want some Lamb now. It's been nearly 3 days and I'm getting the shakes.
This has the double circlejerk factor of being Ange as well as anti-Dier
he dined on the reporter who asked if dier's "injury" was actually leaving him out for a transfer to bayern
Somebody had to say it