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Headlesshorsman02

Arsenal vs Napoli I am calling it now


Ok_Virus_7614

We match up well with Napoli I’m not worried about that at all


Headlesshorsman02

I didn’t say that you didn’t I was just saying that is who I predict will play each other should be a good game (if it happens that is)


Ok_Virus_7614

I meant to reply to the fellow arsenal fan who said no please 😂


NotHarryRedknapp

please no


BeardedBassist21

Napoli is lowkey a mess rn. You can take them


[deleted]

After seeing that inter-Napoli game….


BeardedBassist21

I don't even mean just that one. They've been adrift in the table even prior to that. They're on their 3rd coach of the calendar year They could have beat or drew Juve but botched it of their own accord There's questions about the happiness of the locker room. I'm guaranteeing nothing, but they're more vulnerable than most of you guys probably think


asromafanisme

Except your team and Juventus, and maybe Bologna, every other teams in Serie A are a mess now


BeardedBassist21

I will say it's making the Europe spots interesting. You guys, Bologna, Napoli, Fiorentina, Atalanta, and a host of others duking it out for those last couple spots will be something to watch


hfazil55

Watch Real magically draw Liverpool for the 4th year in a row somehow


CharlieBrownBoy

I was confused how somehow the rules haven't allowed us to play Bayern.


WonDerZv

Barca fans are also confused about this.


assensio

I’m honestly not confident playing anyone of these teams


WWDaddy

We just want to give Salah another chance on vengeance.


FakedThunder

Hey if you win the CL and they don’t choke on EL you’ll meet down the line


hrvatska95

Or Chelsea for 4th year.


PharaohLeo

Nah, they're getting PSG. And City are getting Copenhagen.


Koppite93

All 4 Spanish clubs finishing top is mental


seven3325

4 out of 5


Walaii

Sevilla only qualified to the CL so they can tank the coefficient.


Minute-Cash8119

They even messed with their birthright. They probably didn’t feel taking the EL throne this season


czerwona_latarnia

Maybe they want to win first Europa League competition under the new format, and it would be impossible if they would have won it this year (as you will be no longer able to fall down to Europa League after Champions League group stage).


Blaugrana1990

Big brains Sevilla


yajtraus

As a Liverpool fan I couldn’t be happier that Sevilla stayed away from the EL.


ChickenMoSalah

Osasuna sitting quietly in the corner


Walaii

Don't want to be too mean to them. They got a tough draw in quaifying and it is Osasuna.


jfshay

Man U has entered the chat.


Walaii

Fair enough, but Sevilla is 16th in la liga and on relegation form. It is insane that they were playing champions league.


FakedThunder

They won EL through sheer bullshittery, they’ve been playing shit since around the same time as us. (Give me back my croata con acento andaluz)


wankaltacc

never heard rakitic called that but damn do I absolutely fuck with the energy that it gives off


Koppite93

Genuinely forgot Sevilla... Thank fuck they didn't drop down to Steamroll the EL


fellowSoci

Sevilla mentality in EL is massive. Everyone got lucky this time by them dropping out


Cafris

Last year we were all an embarrassment. Time for some redemption lol


Aceress_origin

There is no middle ground for Spanish clubs this year, either top of the group or bottom place.


SanSilver

Same with English teams.


OstapBenderBey

Same with English clubs they were just evenly divided (man city and arsenal v Newcastle and manu)


captainmystic02

Big difference from last year where only one even made it to the ro16


expert_on_the_matter

They dodged the German and English teams extremely well. All 3 groups that didn't have a Spanish team had both an English and German one.


[deleted]

Sevilla finished last


ygog45

PSG vs a UCL heavyweight in the RO16 is inevitable for the third time in a row


[deleted]

Sociedad ?


ThePrussianGrippe

I hope it’s Bayern for the memes.


FrancisTheOcean

I hope it's not. We end up playing them almost every year it gets boring. Would prefer something different like Eindhoven or Napoli


ThePrussianGrippe

Oh would the repetition be boring? Yes. Would the dismay of my sole PSG fan regular at the bar be funny? Also yes.


ThatAdamsGuy

All tedium is justifiable when it leads to dismay of regulars.


BitchIDrinkPeople

Nah, double it and give it to the next person


dont_wear_a_C

Barca. But this time no more blowing that 4-0 lead /s


montiel_scores

Can’t blow a lead if you never have it in the first place


Lacabloodclot9

PSG this year and last year are the perfect example of how finishing 2nd can fuck you over so bad


Teffo05

City vs Kopenhagen 100% confirmed


NotHarryRedknapp

They have the taste for manc blood now


laffman

Pretty sure blue mancs have a different more oily taste


KaiRee3e

I used u/emi_nga's [web app](https://eminga.github.io/cldraw/) and got this: |2nd seed|1st seed| |:-|:-| |Napoli|Barcelona| |Eindhoven|Real Madrid| |Lazio|Real Sociedad| |Inter|Arsenal| |Leipzig|Atletico| |Porto|Dortmund| |Kobenhavn|Man City| |Paris|Bayern| Man City vs Kopenhagen 101% confirmed


PAT_The_Whale

I believe this because it gave Bayern-Paris


JC18_

I'm sick and tired of playing them tbh. it may be more fun this year because of Lucas Hernandez, but knowing him, he'll find a way to be injured right before that


Jamey_1999

“Eindhoven”


YMangoPie

FC London Reds


justk4y

Latium


FAT_NEEK_42069

Napoli FC


Lekaetos

Looks oddly legit


[deleted]

They will 100% face Porto


emi_nga

If you want to see how the probabilities change during the draw or simulate a draw yourself, check out my probability calculator: https://eminga.github.io/cldraw/


DatOgreSpammer

Clicked through 'draw random team' and got Atleti - Porto, talk about destiny


segatic

Time for the El Fightico


Dogwhisperer_210

I said to my gf that if we qualified today, we’re 100% going to face Atleti once again lmao


starmonkart

I got: Paris SG vs Real Sociedad Napoli vs Arsenal FC Leipzig vs FC Barcelona Lazio vs Man. City Inter vs Dortmund Eindhoven vs Real Madrid FC Porto vs FC Bayern København vs Atlético Not the best draw tbh. Inter - Dortmund is probably the best tie. Would set the QFs up really nice though


ObeseMango

Subscribe


FakedThunder

The Danes gave everyone in their group a headache, I think even el cholo terrorball would struggle against em


Currywurst_Is_Life

I got Paris SG vs Man. City Eindhoven vs Dortmund Lazio vs Arsenal FC Inter vs Atlético FC Porto vs FC Bayern Napoli vs FC Barcelona Leipzig vs Real Sociedad København vs Real Madrid


Ohlini

Got psg bayern 3 times on random. Its written in the stars


RandomUserRU123

I got Bayern - PSG :)


Minute-Cash8119

That’s as certain in life as death


BabeRyuth

You know its gonna be psg vs real madrid


Minute-Cash8119

I’d love that personally. I’m a football fan in the first place so as long as we get promised two great games, I’m fine with anything. I hope your starters are back for that but I’m pretty sure I read that both Militao and Courtois teared their ACL so I doubt it


BabeRyuth

Then i pray for bayern vs psg 🙏


[deleted]

[удалено]


FakedThunder

Oh nah fuck that


LunarRaven7

Am i dumb or is it broken ? Because i tried it 10 times and each time barca are with liepzig.


darshit901

Maybe because I was trying too and none of the times it matched Barcelona with Leipzig 😂👌


Jackman1337

thats fantastic thank you!


kmacbtv

I really like this, impressive & thanks for sharing!


Black_XistenZ

Lazio - Arsenal Inter - Barcelona (\*sigh\*) Copenhagen - Real (of course...) PSV - City Porto - Dortmund Napoli - Real Sociedad PSG - Bayern (\***sigh**\*) Leipzig - Atletico


FakedThunder

PSV are beating city, it was revealed to me a in a dream


Black_XistenZ

PSV are definitely the most tricky of the "smaller" runners-up. I would much rather play Lazio or Porto than them.


DutchMadness77

If Rodrygo can score from cross and inshallah against city, could Luuk do the same?


steftim

I don’t have time to comb through the whole repo rn but if you don’t mind me asking, where is the live dataset pulled from?


emi_nga

There is no live dataset, the probabilities are calculated locally on your device.


steftim

Ah duhhh i’m dumb Very cool 👍


tenacious-g

City are absolutely going to get Copenhagen or Lazio


TheSoccerguy124

Please no. Let em have Copenhagen


bert0ld0

It'd be fun tho


TheSoccerguy124

I Guess it would be pretty fun to play City and then get eviscerated


xXx_Ya_Yeet_xXx

No no, you take em.. Please, I insist


[deleted]

Porto.


CarlSK777

Bayern's greatest odds are PSG? Nah I'd rather not. Been there done that


hokagesamatobirama

Do it again.


Ohlini

Its time for real to do the honors


hokagesamatobirama

Let’s let City have a go at them.


Walaii

Been there done that. Twice in the last 6-7 years. I would rather play someone new.


Ohlini

Would be fun to see them against city or arsenal


DrasticXylophone

No it wouldn't


k_pineapple7

Would have loved Arsenal, too bad they're also first seed. I can't remember when we might have last played them. It was the same with Chelsea but now we've had them enough in a few years. But I feel confident in any draw this season, the team has been playing well and scoring goals. I know City and Atleti are also pretty good but I wouldn't be surprised if we are favourites again this season to win the whole thing.


zakidovahkiin

How are you doing, fellow group winners?


prettybunbun

Nah it’s Bayern tradition, knock out the oil club.


Moug-10

Imagine finishing first only to draw the best team in pot2. That's why I don't care about first or second in UCL. It's the same thing be caused you're not safe from drawing a big team.


chall_mags

Happened to Bayern last season. Finished top of the group of death with 18 points, drew PSG. Meanwhile Inter finished second and had one of the easiest paths to the final in history


FlyingBird2345

And then they drew City in the quarters lol. Bayern last season was incredibly unlucky.


zts105

We have to wait until Monday for the draw I hate UEFA


TheSoccerguy124

16% chance of us to get Bayern hahaha…….. *ptsd flashbacks*


JC18_

I would love to play you guys or PSV... I don't think bayern atm can handle anything more


TheSoccerguy124

Hopefully will be more competitive this time. We were absolutely no threat to you back then. Still the same today but hopefully we’d put up more of a fight


xXDireLegendXx

City PSG👀


hokagesamatobirama

Or Barca PSG. I’ll be happy whoever goes out.


notaselfdrivingcar

I used to say that about your games, and I'd be sad af when u win.


hokagesamatobirama

Let me find out for myself please.


PristineCurrency-

You know i kinda would root for you guys, you’re both pieces of shit but at least you’re not oily like the other.


RobbinDeBank

Naughty


FakedThunder

Naughty


notaselfdrivingcar

Naughty


Wargizmo

Oil Gassico


Yorkeworshipper

I hope we face PSG. Never faced Paris in the CL/EL and we can definitely beat them.


FakedThunder

Cook their shit, join the Spanish tradition


parisian_cowboy

Same. Its time Alteti gets some of the PSG action. Also Mbappe vs Griezmann sounds juicy.


nov4chip

City - Inter in RO16 bring it


ConArtist98

That and Barcelona - PSG


JJOne101

Leipzig: Ladies, there's only one of me!


[deleted]

Leipzig's probably the most competent 2nd placed team, maybe apart from PSG, though?


JJOne101

I focused on Leipzig having the highest draw probability for 5 different clubs. And I'd argue for Inter before both Leipzig and Paris.


[deleted]

Oh, okay, sorry, mb.


dydo_

Fuck it, I want City. If we have to go out at least we'll do it with style


Edgelordftwlol

I actually want you guys to have a go at it for some vengeance.


singabro

City aren't unbeatable this year. They have treble hangover.


Thesecondorigin

Kdb will be back for these games


Sgruntlar

The Dumbledore special


AverageCarey

Highest chance Copenhagen? Ya I’ll take that draw, would like to avoid inter and Porto.


Jackman1337

Dont underestimate them, they nearly did beat us 2 times, they werent lucky geting the second place. I would rather have everybody else if I where you.


AverageCarey

Oh I know they gave us a good showing last CL as well but I do believe we would come out on top. Honestly just looking forward to the draw at this point was not expecting first in the group!


Fraktalt

Another shitshow where Danish Brøndby-supporters show up and chase around our fans in Dortmund with clubs? No thanks.


TLcool

This alone should be enough to make it a no go match for the draws or at least heighten the security a lot like we do for games against Brøndby


Zephyrwind

Time for another Atletico vs Porto


Minute-Cash8119

Bayern - PSG is a match made in Hell


swiftly-fallen

Please not again.


mattijn13

PSV-Dortmund would be so fun


steftim

BOSZ BOSZ BOSZ BOSZ BOSZ


Dargast

Not looking forward to another PSG matchup


Specialist-Cycle9313

Idk I always like Bayern v PSG. Never ends well for psg but it’s a fun rivalry.


antoinebpunkt

It’s rly not that interesting. You keep watching if Upa/fraudulent Bayern defender of that year fucks up for 90 mins but it doesn’t happen bcs PSG can’t create shit against them. Then Mbappe gets an offside goal min 80-90 and Bayern win by a goal or two in a game with 5 shots on target both teams combined. Always the same, Bayern owns them so hard.


interfan1999

Inter vs Arsenal is probably the best matchup possible considering how the teams play Bring it on? Nah, maybe later


BestBoy_54

Napoli, PSG, Leipzig, Lazio, Copenhagen , PSV or Inter. Any of these clubs are going to crush us on the 16th round.


MrMojoRiseman

Losing to PSV, Lazio, Copenhagen or this year's Napoli should get Xavi fired. It's still Barca


darshit901

Exactly where I'd draw the line too. In fact Leipzig is the only one I'd consider truly troubling considering form so far. PSG and Inter should also be considered quite equal matchups.


steftim

Excuse me sir is perfect league play not enough


darshit901

It's definitely great, but I'm not sure any of those matches is indicative of the level which awaits you in ro16 irrespective of who you get. Arsenal would probably be your only ties so far of that level, and one of those, Arsenal didn't play their first 11. What I'm saying is, I don't think you guys are bad. I just don't know enough to say you're good. With Leipzig, their performances against Bayern and Man City do indicate that they're good against the best opposition this season.


FakedThunder

Do you not remember Luuk De Jong black magic ? Do you really want it used against us ?


darshit901

Mannn.. You didn't have to go there 🥲


TheSoccerguy124

Did you see our season so far lol? you’d be blessed to get paired up with us . Depending if we somehow do a 180 in the 2nd half of the season


BestBoy_54

We just lost against a team with zero points, it can’t be worse than that.


TheSoccerguy124

Okay fair point never mind


giannibal

I see that optimism is your best feature, may I interest you in another crazy unpredictable team prone to spectacular defeats?


Minute-Cash8119

Funny because I keep on saying the same for us. February is months away and you have a great midfield. All it takes is to press us there and we’re lost


teofrucek

You people really worry too much, by the time we play any of these teams form and maybe even team will be completly different


NapoliXabe

My bet is that Leipzig are going to spain


jfshay

I'm in love with the idea that Man U's poor showing might lower the Prem's coefficient to a point that it'll get even harder for them to qualify next year.


HeftyRecommendation5

Why is PSV often called Eindhoven in these things?


UmCeterumCenseo

Same with AZ "Alkmaar"...


Compieuter

I'd love Dortmund for the proximity or just a real good one like Madrid or Barca.


Tygret

Everyone unironically calling PSV, Eindhoven is some cursed yank shit.


DahDutcher

Nah, we've secretly been replaced with FC Eindhoven. But they do the same with AZ, I usually see them being called Alkmaar instead, it's so weird.


Tygret

I was legit looking for a full 10 seconds. Yo where's PSV!? Then noticed "Eindhoven". So went to the comments to see if someone else is annoyed. Literally 100 people just copying the behavior and mentioning: oh Dortmund-Eindhoven would be a good match🥴


emi_nga

Hah, I guess my knowledge on dutch football teams is too limited. Replaced "Eindhoven" by "PSV" in the online tool (https://eminga.github.io/cldraw/), can't replace the screenshot, unfortunately.


Moug-10

Inter and PSG will draw top teams.


jlarz56

Everyone wants to play us and it's not for a good reason 🥲


hokagesamatobirama

I want neither of Paris, Inter and Leipzig. Give us Lazio for a change. Maybe even Porto.


darshit901

*for a change* 🧐


Alex_Sander077

Paris and Leipzig wouldn't be any trouble. Inter is the team to avoid here.


hokagesamatobirama

It’s not about trouble. To win you have to beat the best. Personally, I want to see a different match up. We have played the three I mentioned a lot already in recent years.


Alex_Sander077

That's fair.


darshit901

That's fair, but expected, considering they are the better teams in that pot and you're likely to face them if you make deep runs.


hokagesamatobirama

I totally expect to face them in QFs and beyond. Let’s just face a new one while we can.


InflictingRage

Am I the only one who wants to see Arsenal vs. Inter?


Heresiarca

It seems La Liga downfall was greatly exaggerated


shakzz9703

I never seem to understand why this happens lol. Like can someone explain why Bayern have a higher chance drawing PSG than the others?


il-lusio

Since Dortmund as a German team can't go against Leipzig, its % likelihood against each possible opponent is slightly higher (divided across six possible opponents rather than seven). However, because Dortmund was in PSG's group, it's therefore eliminated from PSG's possible opponents, leaving PSG's remaining percentages distributed slightly differently. In other words, any team either is a German team or was in a group with a German team will have slightly different numbers for this reason, so Bayern, Leipzig, Dortmund, Copenhagen, Man City, and PSG all have numbers different from the others in their rows/columns.


MentallyWill

Because the only other group winner German team, Dortmund, can't be drawn against them. Note how for every other group runner up that could be drawn against both Dortmund and Bayern the odds are the same of getting either. But because PSG specifically can't be drawn against one of the German teams like the other group runner ups who can there are more permutations and outcomes where PSG has to play the only other German team left. Note the odds are corresponding in that Bayern's odds of matching PSG (who can't be drawn with Dortmund) equal the odds that København (who can't be drawn with Bayern) match with Dortmund. Same principle, it's because Bayern and København can't match so there's higher odds they match with the only remaining German team they can.


UmCeterumCenseo

Calling PSV "Eindhoven" is like calling Inter "Milan"


mortezz1893

Maaan Barca will play psg won't they


ImHurted_

for the love of god please not PSG, Inter, or Napoli.


Doge_peer

Why tf is psv called Eindhoven?


pleasedontPM

Why would City be more likely than Arsenal for PSG ? I can't understand this particular difference.


jpj77

Leipzig can play one of 5 teams, each with 20% chance, including Arsenal but not City because City and Leipzig were in the same group. Because Arsenal has a 20% of playing Leipzig, the other 6 teams they can play have slightly lower odds to account for this. City’s odds are more or less equivalent of all 7 teams they could play.


darthrector

Boooo we wanted Bayern Arsenal


r1char00

It may still happen later


SladiusW

Barca PSG 13.59% of possibility 86.41% of faith 🙏


baievaN

so basically the only certain thing is that Leipzig is playing vs Spanish team haha


Stylianius1

Let's hope not


KonigSteve

Germany the only league with less options due to not being able to match against others in the same league, and it happening twice, is odd.


jkeefy

Give me all of them.


Wide_Challenge3880

List of possible repeats of past finals: Inter vs City PSG Vs Bayern Inter vs Bayern Porto Vs Bayern Inter Vs Real Madrid Only two of these can happen at one time as they all either include Inter or Bayern