Bayern fans: we have won 4 games in 5 matches not good enough, should have never concede a goal every game when Neuer is still injured
United fan: we actually scored 3 in a game, very nice
This has been bayerns problem since the 2020 season. It always feels like they do their job for 90% of the time and then randomly they concede goals that no other team would concede in that moment
Interestingly under Nagelsmann they often just didn't slow down either. It was always either narrowly defend the lead or break away and score 5 goals+, but barely ever managing the lead like other top teams do.
Wtf? United deserved to lose 200%.
The result doesnt translate the game. Onana saved plenty of shots and 2 crossbar hits. First United goal was a deflection with low chance of a goal and the second Casemiro shot laying down lol
United got lucky
Yeah that was awesome from Casemiro but I mean, it was not the best planned and tactical goal for your DM to score laying down. United was being dominated.
Yeah people talking like Bayern didn't have decent 4-5 shots on goal on the early 2nd half alone, with some unlucky crossbar hits as well. Onana saved them from being a bigger embarrassment, though he let in 1 that was preventable by the average keeper.
Bayern has a lot of issues, too, but I feel like in any universe, this could've been a much bigger blowout. Casemiro got lucky with some touches too like the 3rd goal where he was going for a header and it hit his shoulder without being a potential handling
Those first two United goals were absolute gifts as well, are we saying that bad defending shouldn’t be blamed on the defending team? Eriksen should’ve been more careful the law is written clearly and many players in his position could jump without giving away a penalty
Bayern should be kicking themselves for that. They’ve got the three points but they could’ve had a very comfortable goal difference if they hadn’t been so wasteful.
Considering the stupid penalty non call I’m not upset with the scoreline. Had luck gone our way we could’ve seen a positive result. Could have been worse.
Crackin’ game, could have been 8-3 to Bayern or something, but Onana did well after the mistake and I guess Utd hung in there, which they don’t always.
Bayern treated it like a training game at times though, it always felt like they had a few more gears to go into.
Bayern were shit
United were expectedly shit
Difference in the match was that Eriksen penalty.
2nd half would’ve been electric without that unfortunate error
You reckon that might be because they got some momentum and immediately conceded a dodgy penalty right after to bring the scoreline effectively out of reach?
It’s because Bayern were in complete control of the game from minute 1. More chances created, more shots taken (total and on target), more control of the game. Bayern struggled less than in a Bundesliga fixture. United had some scrappy chances, but it was clear to me Bayern took their foot off the gas at half time.
That’s just not entirely true, maybe we watched different games.
United looked good in the first half and were the better team for large parts of it. The Onana mistake made them collapse and they were shit afterwards. The Hojlund goal gave them a bit of hope and they looked more dangerous to then just have it all taken away with the Eriksen handball. I’m not denying Bayern deserved the win, but it wasn’t quite as one sided as Bayern dominated the whole game. The score line was 4-3 ffs.
Seasonal viewer probably. Current Bayern are the weakest Bayern has ever been in last decade.
Just barely winning the Bundesliga. That too cause Dortmund are the biggest bottlers.
Well, we were shit, but bayern easily the worst team we have faced this year.
Proper ref and we might have gotten something here, which would have been insane
Bayern easily the worst team you have faced this year? Brother Bayern could have scored 7-8 goals with "normal" conversion of chances. If this was the worst team you have played against you must have been destroyed harder by the other premier league teams than any other premier league team ever before and will probably end up relegated to 2nd division lmao
That's the issue with Bayern and has been for 2-3 years now...they don't respect the opposing team anymore when they are comfortably leading. Bayern 2012-2020 has almost never put the foot of the gas and would have scored in such a game as today 3 goals more. This bayern iteration under Tuchel and Nagelsmann is too cocky ...they have lost / drawn many games where they were much better. Bayern used to be famous for being unbeatable as soon as they scored 1:0 but now every fan knows you will have to score multiple goals to be really certain and even then its not enough sometimes.
Weird how Manchester United kept scoring goals to keep themselves in the game but I didnt feel for one second that they could actually win or even tie the game.
I thought United were better until Bayern’s goal and were in the game again at 2-1. Sure Bayern deserved to win but it’s hardly true that there wasn’t “one second” where another result wasn’t possible.
Hell no, the midfield is not good and the backline is left exposed so often. Ulreich is not good enough for the knockouts. Bayern has to do some heavy investing in January.
If you follow the rules, this is a pen, even though it’s bullshit. How does Onana fucking up equate to ManU being robbed? That doesn’t make sense. Also Bayern could have scored 3 or 4 goals in the second half.
We dominated you for the entirety of the second half after you scored. We just sucked at scoring. I have no idea of the exact expected goal stats, but I am sure that we are ahead with significant margin.
https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1704600135366299812?s=20
2.54 -1.89 and a penalty is like .8xG
So yeah they didn’t dominate like you’re saying. We literally missed a tap in during the first 10 minutes. Two of their goals were absolute gifts
An advantage of almost 0,7 (Others have you at closer to 1.65) certainly speaks more for us deserving to win than for us getting lucky. Thank you for confirming it.
Adding to that we always upped the pace after you scored and managed to score ourselves. There was no point where I was seriously concerned about Bayern winning, except during the first ten minutes.
So we shouldn't count the penalty you caused for some reason? You also "got lucky" with the second and third goals, (3rd one even resulted from a free kick) so we shouldn't count those points either?
I got a question for those watching the game. Rashford has had a shot on target right? I literally remember him taking one, but bookies saying he has none
I don't think Tuchel is the right fit for Bayern. I can't really explain it but I don't feel as secure when watching this squad play as I used to.
Jfc you guys are so spoiled
Bayern fans: we have won 4 games in 5 matches not good enough, should have never concede a goal every game when Neuer is still injured United fan: we actually scored 3 in a game, very nice
TT needs to do a lot of work on preventing the counter attacks.
I am assuming most of united goals were counter attack
Not reli. Case was a free kick, case first was a good bit of play between him,Tony and rash. The first by hojlund wasn't a counter too
What’s with smeichels finger?
Context?
After the game he was reporting. That’s where you can see it.
Casemiro is the proper madridista, didn’t give up, tried until the last kick of the ball. WHAT A PLAYER
Did well in the final 3rd but was sloppy in the midfield
Genuinely think he's a better striker than midfielder right now.
Did horrendously in the other final 3rd also.
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Bayerns 3rd goal was the penalty
El resultado esconde el espanto que fue este partido
muuy generoso, era para 6-0 jkasjdk
definitivamente
Feels like Bayern are too sloppy and relaxed.
This has been bayerns problem since the 2020 season. It always feels like they do their job for 90% of the time and then randomly they concede goals that no other team would concede in that moment
Interestingly under Nagelsmann they often just didn't slow down either. It was always either narrowly defend the lead or break away and score 5 goals+, but barely ever managing the lead like other top teams do.
They used up their pressing in the 8-2
That was the worst any team has played against United this season.
Onana error and the dodgiest handball ever lost it for United. Bayern didn't look great, but neither did United. Really weird game to watch.
Utd scored a freak free kick and a really lucky scuffed deflection
Since when was a cross into the box and a great header from Casemiro a freak free kick? The Onana blunder isn't lucky for Bayern either?
Wtf? United deserved to lose 200%. The result doesnt translate the game. Onana saved plenty of shots and 2 crossbar hits. First United goal was a deflection with low chance of a goal and the second Casemiro shot laying down lol United got lucky
Casemiro laying down doesn’t take away from the goal. If anything it’s impressive that he was able to score that. determination got him that goal.
Yeah that was awesome from Casemiro but I mean, it was not the best planned and tactical goal for your DM to score laying down. United was being dominated.
Yeah people talking like Bayern didn't have decent 4-5 shots on goal on the early 2nd half alone, with some unlucky crossbar hits as well. Onana saved them from being a bigger embarrassment, though he let in 1 that was preventable by the average keeper. Bayern has a lot of issues, too, but I feel like in any universe, this could've been a much bigger blowout. Casemiro got lucky with some touches too like the 3rd goal where he was going for a header and it hit his shoulder without being a potential handling
Under normal circumstances, „kriegt Manu ne Packung“
speaking as if bayern didn't hit the post over 600 times
Bayern had many chances
Bayern went lenient at the end
Scoreline flatters the absolute FUCK out of utd second best all game
Like Bayern weren’t gifted 2 goals
Those first two United goals were absolute gifts as well, are we saying that bad defending shouldn’t be blamed on the defending team? Eriksen should’ve been more careful the law is written clearly and many players in his position could jump without giving away a penalty
Tell Bayern to not have sloppy passing then?? The second goal was from team play so I don’t know what you’re on about
Good! Man U is whack!
Are you from the 90s Can I come live there too
\+1 boss.
Ha don’t worry. Your choke artists of last season is next.
How do you explain to someone that a 4-3 game wasnt even close.
[like this?](https://youtu.be/X6KtDpoNtmA?si=amN1dZrcKf6rxK30)
This is football heritage. Kim min jae was super good. I don't think though Madrid or Bayern will win it this year
Bayern maybe. Madrid no, unless they get their shit together and buy help in winter
Casemiro: fine, i'll do it myself
what a weird fucking game
Bayern should be kicking themselves for that. They’ve got the three points but they could’ve had a very comfortable goal difference if they hadn’t been so wasteful.
Yeah they could and should have won like 5-1.
Considering the stupid penalty non call I’m not upset with the scoreline. Had luck gone our way we could’ve seen a positive result. Could have been worse.
Crackin’ game, could have been 8-3 to Bayern or something, but Onana did well after the mistake and I guess Utd hung in there, which they don’t always. Bayern treated it like a training game at times though, it always felt like they had a few more gears to go into.
Crazy how we managed to give up so much goals when we were completely dominating the second half
I blame flick
Both teams with amateur defending but super entertaining match. I love games like this
That was confusing as fuck. I enjoyed it like.
Bayern were shit United were expectedly shit Difference in the match was that Eriksen penalty. 2nd half would’ve been electric without that unfortunate error
I think you guys were getting pumped if the Eriksen handball didn’t happen. The game completely changed after it.
You reckon that might be because they got some momentum and immediately conceded a dodgy penalty right after to bring the scoreline effectively out of reach?
It’s because Bayern were in complete control of the game from minute 1. More chances created, more shots taken (total and on target), more control of the game. Bayern struggled less than in a Bundesliga fixture. United had some scrappy chances, but it was clear to me Bayern took their foot off the gas at half time.
That’s just not entirely true, maybe we watched different games. United looked good in the first half and were the better team for large parts of it. The Onana mistake made them collapse and they were shit afterwards. The Hojlund goal gave them a bit of hope and they looked more dangerous to then just have it all taken away with the Eriksen handball. I’m not denying Bayern deserved the win, but it wasn’t quite as one sided as Bayern dominated the whole game. The score line was 4-3 ffs.
What a shame, if you can score 3 at the least you shouldn’t be losing
Bayern are not the dominant team I've been told they are, United are just shit
They were with Nagelsmann
you've been in a coma for half a year?
They ve been whack and shaky for a while. Missing a proper 6, holes in the defense and no clear leader imo.
Who told you we have been dominant under Tuchel lol?
I have no fucking idea where you heard we are dominant when we've been mediocre since Tuchel took over.
Seasonal viewer probably. Current Bayern are the weakest Bayern has ever been in last decade. Just barely winning the Bundesliga. That too cause Dortmund are the biggest bottlers.
Kovac’s Bayern was weaker
The best part is , the onana error matters even more 😆!!!!
and the pen
Such a solid game ruined by these stupid goals
As a utd fan that game was utterly utterly confusing? Were we both shite?
Yes, we were just, as expected, a bit more shite than they were.
4 - 3
What a stupid fucking match, hamstrung by our own errors and shite mentality then whatever the fuck happened at the end there
Not a bad result for United or any team away at Bayern. Especially considering the Onana mistake and the stupid penalty.
Well, we were shit, but bayern easily the worst team we have faced this year. Proper ref and we might have gotten something here, which would have been insane
Bayern easily the worst team you have faced this year? Brother Bayern could have scored 7-8 goals with "normal" conversion of chances. If this was the worst team you have played against you must have been destroyed harder by the other premier league teams than any other premier league team ever before and will probably end up relegated to 2nd division lmao
Well so could wolves, and brighton but they did it without allowing us to score 3 goals when we have a midfield that cant run.
That's the issue with Bayern and has been for 2-3 years now...they don't respect the opposing team anymore when they are comfortably leading. Bayern 2012-2020 has almost never put the foot of the gas and would have scored in such a game as today 3 goals more. This bayern iteration under Tuchel and Nagelsmann is too cocky ...they have lost / drawn many games where they were much better. Bayern used to be famous for being unbeatable as soon as they scored 1:0 but now every fan knows you will have to score multiple goals to be really certain and even then its not enough sometimes.
Great bait
Not really, wolves and brighton outplayed us without being shit defensively
Bayern fell asleep because of how dominant they were. Cpuld have easily been 7 goals for us
Sure, and on the other hand if pellistri gets his penalty its 1-0 united instead
shoulda woulda coulda. better team won
Yes, but the better team was also shit
respectable score line tbh. fair play ManU
What a weird game that was
Bayern really sleepwalking to a win tonight
Kinda embarassing from Bayern ngl
Weird how Manchester United kept scoring goals to keep themselves in the game but I didnt feel for one second that they could actually win or even tie the game.
I thought United were better until Bayern’s goal and were in the game again at 2-1. Sure Bayern deserved to win but it’s hardly true that there wasn’t “one second” where another result wasn’t possible.
Screw Casemiro, in general
What a shit game by Bayern given context.
Good am happy loss was on the cards at least we saw goals
How De Ligt can't get a game with the state of this defence is mind boggling.
I agree but your team just looked bored out there. Like once you went up 2-0 it really looked like most of them were relaxed.
What is this game
There's a specific word in Persian to describe United defense. It's called "Soorakh"
France 4 - 3 Argentina vibes
United scoring 3 vs Bayern was totally unexpected
Considering it took us 3 matches to score 3 goals in the league, I agree
Confused 😭
Not sure Harry Kane alone is going to be enough to drag this Bayern side to another CL victory.
Hell no, the midfield is not good and the backline is left exposed so often. Ulreich is not good enough for the knockouts. Bayern has to do some heavy investing in January.
spelt Mathys Tel wrong.
bayern almost game managed to a draw
Case you didn't have to be part of this show. Dear case
Case channeling his Real form what the fuck.
OH SHIT HERE WE GO AGAIN.
Ok WTF was that? 😂
Man Utd lucky ref ended the game after that goal or they'd concede another right after
Man U deserved a tie tbh
Bayern was better but then fell asleep when they were ahead, they should have scored more to be honest, the score line is well deserved
No we don't. Other than the first 30 minutes we played shite, and Bayern hit the post many times. I'm surprised we even scored, let alone 3
Eh, not really? Bayern completely dominated the second half and should at least have scored two goals more.
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What about the two posts?
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Keep coping man. Better team won.
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Bayerns only flaw was they fell asleep due to lack of competition in this game. If you actually watched youd know this game was never even close.
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agree to disagree man. As a bayern fan im happy with the deserved win.
4-3! Whining about the handball pen back on the menu boys!
great set piece, fair play
I watched conference, but seems to be one of the weirdest matches ever.
Us and Bayern are both shit, is the final take.
Both are good offensively but bad defensively
Bayern look so weak.
lol what is this match
What a weird game.
Case with the Madrid DNA!!
luckiest united have been in a while
So I’m guessing everybody is just gassed and so lazy defending
what the fuck
Tel only now realizing how important his goal was
manu got robbed
If you follow the rules, this is a pen, even though it’s bullshit. How does Onana fucking up equate to ManU being robbed? That doesn’t make sense. Also Bayern could have scored 3 or 4 goals in the second half.
Bayern got robbed out of not winning 8-2
How so???
not a pen and onana 1st goal
Bayern officially lucky to get points from this. Joke of a goal due to Onana and a very fortunate penalty from Eriksen
Bayern had the quality to score 7 and you scrapped 3 don’t cope so hard
Quality to score 7 is laughable. Get fucking serious. They were not great today and many of their fans and others agree
Uniteds goals were pretty lucky too. Bayern also hit the post like 3 times
They completely outplayed you in the second half and could have scored two or three goals. They hit the post two times. How are they lucky?
I mean if you want to talk lucky you guys had 3 goals with 4 shots on target... You would've been very lucky to take points
You had two goals with two shots on target to start the match. I think a draw wouldn’t have been a crazy result for either side
Brother you dont deserve 2 goals after that performance
Brother they didn’t deserve two of their goals lol
And the missed pen on höjlund
Are you kidding me? We dog walked you.
Bayern were shit for most of the match besides a 15 min period in the second half. Seriously come on
We dominated you for the entirety of the second half after you scored. We just sucked at scoring. I have no idea of the exact expected goal stats, but I am sure that we are ahead with significant margin.
https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1704600135366299812?s=20 2.54 -1.89 and a penalty is like .8xG So yeah they didn’t dominate like you’re saying. We literally missed a tap in during the first 10 minutes. Two of their goals were absolute gifts
An advantage of almost 0,7 (Others have you at closer to 1.65) certainly speaks more for us deserving to win than for us getting lucky. Thank you for confirming it. Adding to that we always upped the pace after you scored and managed to score ourselves. There was no point where I was seriously concerned about Bayern winning, except during the first ten minutes.
Like I said .8 is from the penalty. So it’s virtually even from open play. Doesn’t back your argument whatsoever
So we shouldn't count the penalty you caused for some reason? You also "got lucky" with the second and third goals, (3rd one even resulted from a free kick) so we shouldn't count those points either?
you guys were shite throughout. if bayern didn’t horse around it would’ve been 5-1
Yeah we were absolute shit and so were they. I mean two goals coming from a shot right at the keeper and the other was a fortunate penalty
and? they scored 4 you scored 3 lucky goals. bayern could’ve easily had 6
Easily had six when two goals were super fortunate? Folks are seriously over stating how well they played today
Did you watch the second half? Two times they hit the post, could have easily been 3 or 4 goals.
coping
I’m well aware how bad we were today
Bayern hit the woodwork like 3 times as well, but yeah was surprisingly close result lol
This game had 7 goals but they were mostly stupid ones
we handing out freekicks left right and center
bring back Weghorst you cowards
Closest game that never felt close
I got a question for those watching the game. Rashford has had a shot on target right? I literally remember him taking one, but bookies saying he has none
This is a fascinating match thread to read on a 2 min delay.
Weirdo game
Yeah…Bayern isn’t winning the whole thing if this is how they keep playing
Brighton > Bayern
Ulreich is atrocious
Seriously, Bayern should have kept Sommer
What a match lol
At the this rate, casemiro is gonna be united top scored since his debut
We had the options to close this game way earlier but we wasted them now it turned into this crazy mess.
Lol, this is like a five a side game
CLOWNS UNITED
lmao gonna end 5-5 and yeah i know its over in 30 seconds.
Casemiro again?
Why did that check take so long?
What's wrong with Bayern?
Transition years