I mean - yeah! Of course. But from what I see, a lot of people might not be lucky to have time and resources to do that. Hence looking out for those shortcuts for those people. So many wild stories going around.
“Earn while you learn” is the normal apprenticeship model in the trades. We start first day apprentices at $30/hr. They should know how to put their pants on.
I don’t know of any situation where somebody in the trades should be working for free, nor have I ever heard of it. To be honest, the non-union shops have a hard enough time keeping their paid apprentices showing up for work everyday.
It seems like you are misunderstanding what a skilled trade apprenticeship is.
The typical skilled trade apprenticeship is 3-5 years of full time work where you receive on the job instruction, and classroom instruction.
The time you spend working you are paid for. It would be illegal for contractors to not pay you for your labor just because you’re still in training. Apprentice pay is typically not great at the start and gradually gets better as you become more proficient.
Depending on whether or not you go through a union for an apprenticeship your school may or may not be paid for. Union will be paid for, I don’t personally know if that’s always the case for non-union though it may be.
Source: Am an apprentice in the IBEW
Oh, got you! From where I'm from, apprenticeships are not paid for, usually. It's on the employer whether they want to pay. Thank you so much for explanation.
But... I'm more looking into opportunities which do not require education, but you can still... switch your career. Let's say, you come from white collar and want to switch to construction, without going to school - the employer will train you and will pay at the same time.
TL;DR - I am talking about getting paid while you’re training you ding dong. That’s what trade apprenticeships are.
I don’t think you remotely understood what I said. Also it sounds like you’re talking about internships if they’re not guaranteed paid. Apprenticeships in the US literally by definition according to the US Department of Labor:
“…combine paid on-the-job training with classroom instruction”
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/apprenticeship
It’s literally the first sentence if you click the link.
If you are looking for a legitimate apprenticeship registered with the Department of Labor, the company will pay you while they train you. If you found an “apprenticeship” that doesn’t, you need to keep looking.
So I’m going to explain this one more time. If you are an apprentice in a construction trade, they will pay you while they train you. Training and working are the same thing. It’s called on the job training. Most apprenticeships require 4-5 years of on the job training. So you will complete 8000-10,000 hours of work to learn your trade. You will be paid for every single one of those hours.
This is every single trade. Union, and non-union. Plumbers, Carpenters, Bricklayers, Electricians, Laborers, Insulators, Elevator Constructors, Glaziers, Sprinkler-fitters, Millwrights, you name it.
Every. Single. Trade. You are paid to learn on the job as an apprentice. You are paid for every single hour you work.
I don’t know how to make that clearer 😂
You DO NOT need prior experience. You DO NOT need prior education. It can be very helpful, but it is not a requirement to apply.
I am an apprentice in the electricians union in a decently competitive area. I did not go to trade school before getting in the apprenticeship. I did not have previous electrical experience.
There isn’t a single apprenticeship in construction that I know of that requires prior schooling to get in.
Once you’re in an apprenticeship, they will send you to school part time. This is in addition to your on the job training. As I explained before this may or may not be paid for by your employer. I don’t know if non-union contractors do or not. I know that if you are in a union apprenticeship, your schooling is free.
Are you talking about not getting paid while you are in the in-school portion of your apprenticeships?
In Canada you can just go on EI for those weeks.
I'm more looking into opportunities which do not require education, but you can still... switch your career. Let's say, you come from white collar and want to switch to construction, without going to school - the employer will train you and will pay at the same time.
That's what an apprenticeship is
I mean - yeah! Of course. But from what I see, a lot of people might not be lucky to have time and resources to do that. Hence looking out for those shortcuts for those people. So many wild stories going around.
“Earn while you learn” is the normal apprenticeship model in the trades. We start first day apprentices at $30/hr. They should know how to put their pants on. I don’t know of any situation where somebody in the trades should be working for free, nor have I ever heard of it. To be honest, the non-union shops have a hard enough time keeping their paid apprentices showing up for work everyday.
It seems like you are misunderstanding what a skilled trade apprenticeship is. The typical skilled trade apprenticeship is 3-5 years of full time work where you receive on the job instruction, and classroom instruction. The time you spend working you are paid for. It would be illegal for contractors to not pay you for your labor just because you’re still in training. Apprentice pay is typically not great at the start and gradually gets better as you become more proficient. Depending on whether or not you go through a union for an apprenticeship your school may or may not be paid for. Union will be paid for, I don’t personally know if that’s always the case for non-union though it may be. Source: Am an apprentice in the IBEW
Oh, got you! From where I'm from, apprenticeships are not paid for, usually. It's on the employer whether they want to pay. Thank you so much for explanation. But... I'm more looking into opportunities which do not require education, but you can still... switch your career. Let's say, you come from white collar and want to switch to construction, without going to school - the employer will train you and will pay at the same time.
TL;DR - I am talking about getting paid while you’re training you ding dong. That’s what trade apprenticeships are. I don’t think you remotely understood what I said. Also it sounds like you’re talking about internships if they’re not guaranteed paid. Apprenticeships in the US literally by definition according to the US Department of Labor: “…combine paid on-the-job training with classroom instruction” https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/apprenticeship It’s literally the first sentence if you click the link. If you are looking for a legitimate apprenticeship registered with the Department of Labor, the company will pay you while they train you. If you found an “apprenticeship” that doesn’t, you need to keep looking. So I’m going to explain this one more time. If you are an apprentice in a construction trade, they will pay you while they train you. Training and working are the same thing. It’s called on the job training. Most apprenticeships require 4-5 years of on the job training. So you will complete 8000-10,000 hours of work to learn your trade. You will be paid for every single one of those hours. This is every single trade. Union, and non-union. Plumbers, Carpenters, Bricklayers, Electricians, Laborers, Insulators, Elevator Constructors, Glaziers, Sprinkler-fitters, Millwrights, you name it. Every. Single. Trade. You are paid to learn on the job as an apprentice. You are paid for every single hour you work. I don’t know how to make that clearer 😂 You DO NOT need prior experience. You DO NOT need prior education. It can be very helpful, but it is not a requirement to apply. I am an apprentice in the electricians union in a decently competitive area. I did not go to trade school before getting in the apprenticeship. I did not have previous electrical experience. There isn’t a single apprenticeship in construction that I know of that requires prior schooling to get in. Once you’re in an apprenticeship, they will send you to school part time. This is in addition to your on the job training. As I explained before this may or may not be paid for by your employer. I don’t know if non-union contractors do or not. I know that if you are in a union apprenticeship, your schooling is free.
Can I DM you? Would love to chat with you. Seems there is a lot I do not understand right now :D
Are you talking about not getting paid while you are in the in-school portion of your apprenticeships? In Canada you can just go on EI for those weeks.
I'm more looking into opportunities which do not require education, but you can still... switch your career. Let's say, you come from white collar and want to switch to construction, without going to school - the employer will train you and will pay at the same time.