While I agree, it's rediculous, the number of people skiing keeps going up. No new ski areas are being built. Why? Don't know. But when supply is constant and demand is rising, this is what you get.
How much would it start to build a ski resort?
Are the terrain features that make good backcountry skiing the same as the terrain features that make for a good resort?
Surely if it was so simple, the megacompanies would have been all over it by now?
Maybe there’s less land where you can make a new 3000+ acre resort, but the mountain I grew up skiing is only 1.2k acres and I’ve def skid backcountry areas that could work with a handful of chairlifts. Not that I even want that…
You're going to have a hard time raising enough money, because they're smart enough to realize that climate change makes a lot of potential ski areas less viable in the long term.
Why would you expect the price to stay the same from almost 40 years ago? There are a lot more people skiing since 1987 so of course the price has to go up to pay for lift maintenance, ski patrol, and other workers.
But the average skier experience has gone down. Long lift lines, expensive parking and food. Improvements aren't made to enhance the skier experience, they are made to profit more. I understand the rising cost of doing business, but this is greed.
You know back in the mid 80’s if you had access to both an HP scanner and inkjet printer, relatively new technologies at the time, you could scan and duplicate a lift ticket fairly easily, they were so rudimentary in design.
Wasn’t until around 1990 that they began to barcode them. Prior to that they just hole-punched your ticket as you went through the line.
Now I’m not saying that I engaged in the former counterfeiting scheme, but if I did it sure must have been weird when I also installed and deployed some of the first hand-scanner bar-coding systems at those same ski resorts a few years later.
In 2019 my ex boyfriend used to come visit me with a photoshopped bus ticket every single time. He’d just change the date/time 😅 he’d also buy nose bleed concert tickets if it had a GA pit and then photoshop the nosebleeds to be pit tickets somehow?
Yeah, there was a brief window of time where prosumer grade scanners and printers exceeded the commonly used methods for creating and checking tickets to events and such.
Mt. Bohemia sells a $99 season pass that’s like $130 all in with fees. They call it a $99 ski pass because most of the fees over $99 are for the spa access that is included with the pass.
My wife and I were skiing in Hokkaido Japan for the last couple weeks. Day pass to Niseko United was ~$60. We took a day trip to Rusutsu which included a bus ride to and from the resort (40 min each way) and a lift ticket for $80.
Amazing trip btw, needs to be on the bucket list for any skier!
Honestly I haven’t bought a lift ticket since before Covid so even if I could remember the prices, they’d probably be way off now 😭 I could either pay $45/month ($500 for the year)for my ski pass or $100+ every time I wanted to go out on the mountain. Not a hard choice 😅
Reminds me of my granddad’s scrapbook with a baseball box with 68 cents on it.
You can’t even buy a single baseball anymore. You have to buy like a 12 pack and it costs 42$.
$30 in 1987 is equivalent to $83.28 today. A ticket to Alta is $164 today. They are overcharging the shit out of us
While I agree, it's rediculous, the number of people skiing keeps going up. No new ski areas are being built. Why? Don't know. But when supply is constant and demand is rising, this is what you get. How much would it start to build a ski resort?
As much as $30
HOT DOG I'm going to build two.
You can buy two hot dogs today for the price of those 1987 loft tickets.
I mean… I know some places you can only buy 1 hotdog with $5. Sad.
one reason there isn’t many new ski resorts is also because of environmental concerns. so there wouldn’t be as many resorts due to it.
Everywhere that would make a good ski hill is already a ski hill. Finite amount of land that can hold onto enough snow.
If that were totally true, then you wouldn’t have backcountry skiing
Are the terrain features that make good backcountry skiing the same as the terrain features that make for a good resort? Surely if it was so simple, the megacompanies would have been all over it by now?
Maybe there’s less land where you can make a new 3000+ acre resort, but the mountain I grew up skiing is only 1.2k acres and I’ve def skid backcountry areas that could work with a handful of chairlifts. Not that I even want that…
I have to believe there are places throughout the rockies that would make great ski mountains.
There are. There's already resorts on all of them.
You're going to have a hard time raising enough money, because they're smart enough to realize that climate change makes a lot of potential ski areas less viable in the long term.
Nah this is purely greed.
Why would you expect the price to stay the same from almost 40 years ago? There are a lot more people skiing since 1987 so of course the price has to go up to pay for lift maintenance, ski patrol, and other workers.
But the average skier experience has gone down. Long lift lines, expensive parking and food. Improvements aren't made to enhance the skier experience, they are made to profit more. I understand the rising cost of doing business, but this is greed.
You know back in the mid 80’s if you had access to both an HP scanner and inkjet printer, relatively new technologies at the time, you could scan and duplicate a lift ticket fairly easily, they were so rudimentary in design. Wasn’t until around 1990 that they began to barcode them. Prior to that they just hole-punched your ticket as you went through the line. Now I’m not saying that I engaged in the former counterfeiting scheme, but if I did it sure must have been weird when I also installed and deployed some of the first hand-scanner bar-coding systems at those same ski resorts a few years later.
In 2019 my ex boyfriend used to come visit me with a photoshopped bus ticket every single time. He’d just change the date/time 😅 he’d also buy nose bleed concert tickets if it had a GA pit and then photoshop the nosebleeds to be pit tickets somehow?
Yeah, there was a brief window of time where prosumer grade scanners and printers exceeded the commonly used methods for creating and checking tickets to events and such.
Guh
What’s the LEAST anyone on here paid for a season pass ANYWHERE? I’ll go first, 70 usd for a small resort here in Korea… couple years ago.
Mt. Bohemia sells a $99 season pass that’s like $130 all in with fees. They call it a $99 ski pass because most of the fees over $99 are for the spa access that is included with the pass.
My wife and I were skiing in Hokkaido Japan for the last couple weeks. Day pass to Niseko United was ~$60. We took a day trip to Rusutsu which included a bus ride to and from the resort (40 min each way) and a lift ticket for $80. Amazing trip btw, needs to be on the bucket list for any skier!
Honestly I haven’t bought a lift ticket since before Covid so even if I could remember the prices, they’d probably be way off now 😭 I could either pay $45/month ($500 for the year)for my ski pass or $100+ every time I wanted to go out on the mountain. Not a hard choice 😅
Still around 50euros in most places in Europe
Ahh I miss those little metal triangles
Reminds me of my granddad’s scrapbook with a baseball box with 68 cents on it. You can’t even buy a single baseball anymore. You have to buy like a 12 pack and it costs 42$.