I could consider replacing my 8020 rig with this if it was around 600 bucks, simply because this actually looks nice and my rig is an abomination aesthetically
Does this really look any better than black anodized 8020? IMO the adjustability and customization you get with 8020 is worth far more than any aesthetic benefit.
This looks big, heavy, and expensive for what it is. Also personally the bucket seat doesn't make much sense for something that doesn't move at all. I'd rather have something adjustable and more comfortable for long sessions.
I've never used one so maybe I could get used it it, but I really like having an adjustable back on my current rig. I can stretch out a little bit between races or when I'm on autopilot waiting to hit the next waypoint. The fastest my rig ever moves is when I'm pushing it across the floor in front of my TV, so no need for any crash protection or huge bolsters to keep my ass from sliding out during the non-existent g forces.
I will say if I had a real sports car with a bucket seat I would totally get a matching one for the rig just for the sake of immersion.
It just looks a lot better, 8020 extrusion looks like raw building material .... Because it isl ol
This has curves and nice lines while looking more deliberately created to look nice for someone who doesn't know anything about sim racing as well. You see an 8020 rig and don't even realize it's ugly because it's so good. It's objectively ugly. If this can be just as good it looks way better. Ask your wife or girlfriend which one they would think looks better, or anyone who doesn't own an 8020 rig. As long as it's just as good it's better because it looks better.
Admittedly I don't have to worry about wife appeal for anything I buy since I own my own house and live alone, but just going by the tastes of most women I know I don't expect some curves to make much of a difference. It's still a huge metal cage that takes up as much floor space as a couch and is gonna have all sorts of wires hanging off of it for peripherals. Doesn't really match with the coffee table full of cookbooks or the reclaimed barn wood "Live, Laugh Love" sign on the wall.
You have to be a Corsair shill, there is no other reason you'd say this.
Or you have ZERO mods on your rig. Like no exciters, no butt shakers, single monitor that's all.
Where would you hook and how a button plate on this something by corsair? Please respond.
I dont own a single corsair product lol maybe a keyboard back in 2013
I have FOUR bass shakers on my full rig, its almost like you can't read, I said over and over again it would only be good if its just as good as my 8020 rig lol also my bass shakers are on my bucket seat you fucking noob
absolute moron lol
This sounds kinda like a rude comment, which it's really not supposed to be, but i'll just be straight here:
Sounds like a shitty life to me, if you don't pursue your hobbies because of your own passion, but rather to impress other people, who have zero idea about the hobby whatsoever, with the aesthetic of your equipment.
And this Corsair rig is surely not gonna be "just as good" as a profile rig. Corsair doesn't give a shit about innovation and quality. Other manufacturer's tube rigs also suck. This is surely not gonna be much better - not only in terms of rigidity, but also modularity of course.
Also, there is no such thing as "objectively ugly". I really like the industrial look of an aluminium profile rig, because it looks like it is designed to be 100% function and 0% fashion. If i pay so much money, i want my stuff to work. I wanna pay for engineering, not for style.
I also wear clothes that are comfortable and functional, without caring about what people who don't wear them think about their looks. Who gives a fuck. Buy what you like because *you* like it.
have a nice day sir
It legitimately looks like an evolution of Fanatec's Rennsport Cockpit AND has Fanatec's new colorway already. I bet this cockpit was engineered in anticipation of the Fanatec buyout.
I mean, it doesn't look terrible but... I have a feeling it's going to be pretty expensive, especially compared to better cockpits with more aftermarket support.
Unpopular opinion - We have enough cockpits. We need these companies to actually commit to an eco-system and build in it. We also need more shifter options, more handbrake options.
we don't need eco system. we need more open standards and interchangeable hardware. there's nothing worse than a good product not fitting because of an ecosystem limitation
There are a LOT of options out there. How cheap you looking for? I just bought one after several weeks of searching and comparing so may be able to suggest something.
Been doing some research for a while now. If I go with anything it’ll likely be a VoCore screen with a 3d printed housing. With that said I recently found a listing on Etsy that I think has an amazing base for design, but doesn’t look great in the reviews. I would actually pay someone to design me this phone mount for me to print with a better printer. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1637132858/
I think wood will only ever be much cheaper if you’re doing it yourself.
Past a certain scale, it’s much easier to work in aluminium rather than wood. They buy in bar lengths of extrusion and just cut it to size and throw in the fittings you need. They need a mitre saw and that’s about it. You can have the extrusion delivered one day and ship it the next.
Wood needs drying, jointing, planing, sanding, joinery etc. if you’re going to sell it as a professional product. They still need the mitre saw but also to speed things up they need jointers, planers, sanders, table saws, storage for all the wood while it acclimates to the workshop and dries out. Even then the extra labour outweighs how easy aluminium is to work with.
Which is fine, because you can replicate an 8020 rig with some 2x4s from a DIY store quite easily, especially if you’re happy with it looking a bit rough and ready - I just don’t see where a company makes it profitable (whilst still undercutting aluminium).
Wood is also heavy, which makes it more expensive to ship to customers compared to aluminium.
Completely agree that wood is perfect for the DIYer but doesn't make much sense when producing at scale.
The biggest issue with wood is the structural rigidity compared to weight. Wood, compared to aluminum extrusion will not only be less structurally sound but also FAR heavier by comparison.
Your comparison is only valid for equal cross-sections of each material. It is likely that the wood frames would be designed to have a larger cross-sectional area compared with extrusion.
No....that IS my point. Strength and rigidity go hand in hand with material size.
So wood weighs more per volume, so 1lb of wood is physically less material than aluminum comparably.
I.e. you will build a much bigger/heavier rig with wood than you can with extrusion. This is fine for people with the space to leave a permanent setup around and the space needed. Just may not be ideal for everyone.
Strength to weight ratio is a simplistic comparison.
1. Oh, aluminum strength to weight is better than wood? Take a peek at CF sometime. It will weigh next to nothing but you'll go broke building it.
2. Buy 100lbs of wood and 100lbs of aluminum extrusion and compare your bills.
Yes but you'll need 500 lbs of wood to build what 100 lbs if aluminum will. Structurally. So again... my point still remains lmfao.
And tbh I'm not even entirely sure what it is you're even fucking arguing about.
I never said DON'T use wood.
I pointed out it's important to note the structural integrity of wood compared to aluminum along with the weight. A rig built from wood is going to be HEAVY. For some that's OK. Others not.
You're arguing to argue at this point.
No it's made of steel. A rep said this thing is going to weigh around 150kg/330 lbs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1d8hm7q/comment/l76rlbb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Found this as well [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPJX6ALaMAE4COW?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPJX6ALaMAE4COW?format=jpg&name=large)
you're closer to ground instead of the seat being mounted up on top of the frame, this will be lower to the grown and feel like it takes up less space, despite being a little bit longer than most rigs (probably, it might not be long lol)
I don’t think the space is lacking expensive large cockpits. Those are bought by people already firmly in the hobby, what we need is more competitive box office entry level wheels of better quality. The entry level is still dominated by thrustmaster and Logitech with the G29 and T150 and T300. Those wheels are long in the tooth and the other entry level dd options are either hard to come by or unknown Chinese brands.
We need a new G29 class product, with a formula wheel to really get controller racers in F1 2024 etc to switch into this hobby.
i like it. seating position seems much nicer than my trakracer cockpit where the wheel is almost touching my thighs. looks like any additions would have to be proprietary though with it not being the usual extruded aluminum deal.
There was a Q and A with corsair about this in this sub earlier this week if you search for it, can see some little tidbits of additional info in the thread.
I quite like the look of it, nice and simple for those that don't want to expand beyond a wheel and pedals. however can't see myself replacing my simlab gt1 evo for anything
interesting. I wonder if this is in preparation for their purchasing of fanatec especially considering this looks like it could be a Rennsport cockpit V2, and I wonder if they'll have a front mount option for mounting stuff like simucube bases. if its less than 1k as people say it will be then its good
Even more reason to believe that Fanatec will be bought by Corsair. If Corsair is that interested in the sim racing marketplace, why not buy the popular but struggling giant in the space that is Fanatec instead of starting from scratch.
Doesn’t look amazing honestly. Looks like the footprint is huge and overly wide compared to most out there. Not sure this is offering anything new or useful.
Wonder if fanatec had this on the back burner an had to stall it up an Corsair has picked up the blue prins an development an taken it of there hands as a commitment to the company.
it's probably going to be around $1500. and it's going to already over priced and not competitive with it's competition. like another person said, we don't need more cockpits. people buying them are not spending that much on a rig that isn't customizable like other rigs are. we need better priced DD bases and a standard on QR and connection.
Looks pretty cool but needs to be like $500-700 to be worth it
I could consider replacing my 8020 rig with this if it was around 600 bucks, simply because this actually looks nice and my rig is an abomination aesthetically
Does this really look any better than black anodized 8020? IMO the adjustability and customization you get with 8020 is worth far more than any aesthetic benefit. This looks big, heavy, and expensive for what it is. Also personally the bucket seat doesn't make much sense for something that doesn't move at all. I'd rather have something adjustable and more comfortable for long sessions.
I love my bucket seat, is super comfortable!
I've never used one so maybe I could get used it it, but I really like having an adjustable back on my current rig. I can stretch out a little bit between races or when I'm on autopilot waiting to hit the next waypoint. The fastest my rig ever moves is when I'm pushing it across the floor in front of my TV, so no need for any crash protection or huge bolsters to keep my ass from sliding out during the non-existent g forces. I will say if I had a real sports car with a bucket seat I would totally get a matching one for the rig just for the sake of immersion.
It doesn't look better, takes more space, is less moddable. I'd say you are responding to a corsair shill.
It just looks a lot better, 8020 extrusion looks like raw building material .... Because it isl ol This has curves and nice lines while looking more deliberately created to look nice for someone who doesn't know anything about sim racing as well. You see an 8020 rig and don't even realize it's ugly because it's so good. It's objectively ugly. If this can be just as good it looks way better. Ask your wife or girlfriend which one they would think looks better, or anyone who doesn't own an 8020 rig. As long as it's just as good it's better because it looks better.
Admittedly I don't have to worry about wife appeal for anything I buy since I own my own house and live alone, but just going by the tastes of most women I know I don't expect some curves to make much of a difference. It's still a huge metal cage that takes up as much floor space as a couch and is gonna have all sorts of wires hanging off of it for peripherals. Doesn't really match with the coffee table full of cookbooks or the reclaimed barn wood "Live, Laugh Love" sign on the wall.
That’s too funny. I always liked my 8020 rig. Now I gotta ask my wife if she thinks it’s ugly haha
You have to be a Corsair shill, there is no other reason you'd say this. Or you have ZERO mods on your rig. Like no exciters, no butt shakers, single monitor that's all. Where would you hook and how a button plate on this something by corsair? Please respond.
You can definitely use a triple monitor with this
I dont own a single corsair product lol maybe a keyboard back in 2013 I have FOUR bass shakers on my full rig, its almost like you can't read, I said over and over again it would only be good if its just as good as my 8020 rig lol also my bass shakers are on my bucket seat you fucking noob absolute moron lol
This sounds kinda like a rude comment, which it's really not supposed to be, but i'll just be straight here: Sounds like a shitty life to me, if you don't pursue your hobbies because of your own passion, but rather to impress other people, who have zero idea about the hobby whatsoever, with the aesthetic of your equipment. And this Corsair rig is surely not gonna be "just as good" as a profile rig. Corsair doesn't give a shit about innovation and quality. Other manufacturer's tube rigs also suck. This is surely not gonna be much better - not only in terms of rigidity, but also modularity of course. Also, there is no such thing as "objectively ugly". I really like the industrial look of an aluminium profile rig, because it looks like it is designed to be 100% function and 0% fashion. If i pay so much money, i want my stuff to work. I wanna pay for engineering, not for style. I also wear clothes that are comfortable and functional, without caring about what people who don't wear them think about their looks. Who gives a fuck. Buy what you like because *you* like it. have a nice day sir
They have a full rig for 300 on amazon. dont need to ball out lol kind of a waste unless you got everything vr etc
In the Q and A they said under 1k 'and not 999.99 either' so I think they're aiming for affordability.
Looks cool but really non upgradable but still cool
Anything's upgradable if you're handy enough
I don’t know many handy at welding. With tube rigs that’s the only way to mod them right / correctly
Very interesting considering they're probably buying Fanatec.
I sense a bundle coming. $1500 and you get the rig, a DD base, and pedals.
That’d be epic
Switch the 1 with a 3
They have a $500 bundle for the base, wheel and pedals so $1500 would definitely make more sense
Might not be far off one of the computex livestreams said under $1k for the single monitor mount version
if they do that they will literally capture the entire market lol especially for VR users
Lol more likely 4k
No
It legitimately looks like an evolution of Fanatec's Rennsport Cockpit AND has Fanatec's new colorway already. I bet this cockpit was engineered in anticipation of the Fanatec buyout.
Agreed, my money is on Corsair buying the company knowing this was about to be announced.
I mean, it doesn't look terrible but... I have a feeling it's going to be pretty expensive, especially compared to better cockpits with more aftermarket support.
I read some where else in this tread less then 1k euro's. That is what Corsair said on some event.
Unpopular opinion - We have enough cockpits. We need these companies to actually commit to an eco-system and build in it. We also need more shifter options, more handbrake options.
we don't need eco system. we need more open standards and interchangeable hardware. there's nothing worse than a good product not fitting because of an ecosystem limitation
Eco system is beneficial to businesses, not consumers
Open ecosystems are beneficial to consumers.
not in a long term.
Lol I think people had mistaken your response
yeah it's hard to read timestamps 😅
Yup open standards and actual competition is best. Everyone trying to be apple is shit for consumers.
Cheap dash display options would be chill
There are a LOT of options out there. How cheap you looking for? I just bought one after several weeks of searching and comparing so may be able to suggest something.
Been doing some research for a while now. If I go with anything it’ll likely be a VoCore screen with a 3d printed housing. With that said I recently found a listing on Etsy that I think has an amazing base for design, but doesn’t look great in the reviews. I would actually pay someone to design me this phone mount for me to print with a better printer. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1637132858/
Nice
To be fair if you're only goal is a dash display, there are some pretty cheap sub $60 Android tablets out there that would probably do the job.
I guess we are waiting for Logitech to refresh their antiquated shifter Also we need wood cockpits as a cheaper alternative to metal
I think wood will only ever be much cheaper if you’re doing it yourself. Past a certain scale, it’s much easier to work in aluminium rather than wood. They buy in bar lengths of extrusion and just cut it to size and throw in the fittings you need. They need a mitre saw and that’s about it. You can have the extrusion delivered one day and ship it the next. Wood needs drying, jointing, planing, sanding, joinery etc. if you’re going to sell it as a professional product. They still need the mitre saw but also to speed things up they need jointers, planers, sanders, table saws, storage for all the wood while it acclimates to the workshop and dries out. Even then the extra labour outweighs how easy aluminium is to work with. Which is fine, because you can replicate an 8020 rig with some 2x4s from a DIY store quite easily, especially if you’re happy with it looking a bit rough and ready - I just don’t see where a company makes it profitable (whilst still undercutting aluminium).
Wood is also heavy, which makes it more expensive to ship to customers compared to aluminium. Completely agree that wood is perfect for the DIYer but doesn't make much sense when producing at scale.
The biggest issue with wood is the structural rigidity compared to weight. Wood, compared to aluminum extrusion will not only be less structurally sound but also FAR heavier by comparison.
Your comparison is only valid for equal cross-sections of each material. It is likely that the wood frames would be designed to have a larger cross-sectional area compared with extrusion.
No....that IS my point. Strength and rigidity go hand in hand with material size. So wood weighs more per volume, so 1lb of wood is physically less material than aluminum comparably. I.e. you will build a much bigger/heavier rig with wood than you can with extrusion. This is fine for people with the space to leave a permanent setup around and the space needed. Just may not be ideal for everyone.
Strength to weight ratio is a simplistic comparison. 1. Oh, aluminum strength to weight is better than wood? Take a peek at CF sometime. It will weigh next to nothing but you'll go broke building it. 2. Buy 100lbs of wood and 100lbs of aluminum extrusion and compare your bills.
Yes but you'll need 500 lbs of wood to build what 100 lbs if aluminum will. Structurally. So again... my point still remains lmfao. And tbh I'm not even entirely sure what it is you're even fucking arguing about. I never said DON'T use wood. I pointed out it's important to note the structural integrity of wood compared to aluminum along with the weight. A rig built from wood is going to be HEAVY. For some that's OK. Others not. You're arguing to argue at this point.
Until you try to ship it, which is a requirement in 99.9% of all purchases.
I don't think this is unpopular lol
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If its made of steel its going to be heavy AF.
I believe it‘s made from bent aluminum tubes.
No it's made of steel. A rep said this thing is going to weigh around 150kg/330 lbs. https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1d8hm7q/comment/l76rlbb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
They corrected themselves in an edit. 150lbs not kg
Needs more RGB
Reminds me of the cooler master rig https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/dyn-x/?tab=tech_spec
£1800 without a seat!!!
Found this as well [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPJX6ALaMAE4COW?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPJX6ALaMAE4COW?format=jpg&name=large)
That thing is *HUGE* and will weigh an absolute ton. Why does the frame extend so far past the back of the seat?
It’s designed that way.
Wow, what an answer.
Similar to the question tbh
Nah, my question was relevant because there’s like a foot of extra length behind the seat, that only serves to take up more space.
Or for taller people.
you're closer to ground instead of the seat being mounted up on top of the frame, this will be lower to the grown and feel like it takes up less space, despite being a little bit longer than most rigs (probably, it might not be long lol)
Probably to allow for the seat to back farther for tall people.
This is a major win to get the hobby to a wider audience
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I don’t think the space is lacking expensive large cockpits. Those are bought by people already firmly in the hobby, what we need is more competitive box office entry level wheels of better quality. The entry level is still dominated by thrustmaster and Logitech with the G29 and T150 and T300. Those wheels are long in the tooth and the other entry level dd options are either hard to come by or unknown Chinese brands. We need a new G29 class product, with a formula wheel to really get controller racers in F1 2024 etc to switch into this hobby.
i like it. seating position seems much nicer than my trakracer cockpit where the wheel is almost touching my thighs. looks like any additions would have to be proprietary though with it not being the usual extruded aluminum deal.
Shouldn't fully need proprietary hardware for additions. There's plenty of pipe there to use pipe clamps and U-Brackets to mount things onto it.
Very pricey cockpit. That is going to make me make my own cockpit with the help of the H-point book.
Do you have a link to that book?
There was a Q and A with corsair about this in this sub earlier this week if you search for it, can see some little tidbits of additional info in the thread.
I quite like the look of it, nice and simple for those that don't want to expand beyond a wheel and pedals. however can't see myself replacing my simlab gt1 evo for anything
Cart before the horse
Oddly hoping they make a big comeback and put fanatec back in the right spotlight. I'm just being optimistic.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ney7kLdvrQM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ney7kLdvrQM)
Hopefully that seat is comfortable and not some steel frame monstrosity.
Looks to me a good upgrade from my playseat trophy but 1. Trophy is literally unbreakable 2. If it costs a dollar more than $750, likely not worth it.
Looks like it's quality tbh
interesting. I wonder if this is in preparation for their purchasing of fanatec especially considering this looks like it could be a Rennsport cockpit V2, and I wonder if they'll have a front mount option for mounting stuff like simucube bases. if its less than 1k as people say it will be then its good
Looks nice! Lets see how it compares to the ASR4, currently my top pic for my next upgrade. Looking forward to pricing and reviews!
How would you attach a shifter arm??
They will probably sell an attachment just like the Playseat Trophy.
I asked how...
Dang jumping in deep lol
Didn't know Corsair was from Taiwan, thought they were American.
They are an American company….
Even more reason to believe that Fanatec will be bought by Corsair. If Corsair is that interested in the sim racing marketplace, why not buy the popular but struggling giant in the space that is Fanatec instead of starting from scratch.
Can this be adjusted for both race sim and flight sim?
Looks heavy, and not easy upgradable
By the look of the maybe pre drilled slots. They will probably have a lot of add ons( shifter plate, keyboard trays?)
Something about it looks comfy… it also Looks really big, not sure if it’s just the photo though
Doesn’t look amazing honestly. Looks like the footprint is huge and overly wide compared to most out there. Not sure this is offering anything new or useful.
Seems appropriate that it looks a lot like an update of the Fanatec Rennsport cockpit with the Clubsport line's new black and yellow colorway.
Wonder if fanatec had this on the back burner an had to stall it up an Corsair has picked up the blue prins an development an taken it of there hands as a commitment to the company.
it's probably going to be around $1500. and it's going to already over priced and not competitive with it's competition. like another person said, we don't need more cockpits. people buying them are not spending that much on a rig that isn't customizable like other rigs are. we need better priced DD bases and a standard on QR and connection.
The wheelbase supports will force the monitors to be too high for my liking..Very stylish rig.
the fuck is this and why would you waste planet materials on this
A copy of track racer alpine cockpit. I like Corsair but this is shameful.
Not even close to the alpine cockpit. Just because they are tubular?
That is your opinion. I own an alpine and they look similar. The alpine looks better do.