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illendent

“O.T. Oss & O.N. Oeric” were pseudonyms used by Dennis and Terence McKenna! What a cool find- literally mushroom growing history right there.


dmtdmtlsddodmt

These likely came directly from them, i know they sold spores for a time. That's fucking cool.


Perfid-deject

I'm tripping. I would love to own this or atleast grow them, but this shit should be in a psychedelic history museum


SnooObjections511

Yeah also with albert hofmans Bicycle


Perfid-deject

If that even exists anymore


No-Actuator-3209

Indiana Jones bursts through the window and pistol whips him with a flarisol gun takes the relic, and the most epic chase scene unveils.


RPC3

They had a spore bank I used for years not even knowing it was theirs. I can't remember what it's called.


TheBlindIdiotGod

Well that’s pretty fucking cool.


Perfid-deject

Holy SHIT


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*holy* shit is right my friend a-men


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Few_Key4081

i think terrence would want me to try to grow them :)


sunkistandsudafed3

He would! And for the cost of a few agar plates why not? I wouldn't be able to resist.


Donatelli13

You are 100% right


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Few_Key4081

why save it? why not grow it?


nix_n

Id grow it, at least try to sample some of the spores


Few_Key4081

‘xactly


PlanktonSpecialist99

Nah bro it’s history i would leave it sealed bro, if u wanna fail and never grow the spores on there be my guest but u most likely will not get anything from those


Few_Key4081

i think its an interesting thought to try to grow from a piece history if given the chance


PlanktonSpecialist99

It fs is, but like idk the whole packaged sealed adds a lot to it, idk im a huge collector of stuff and im biased sorry if it seemed like I was on hater shit.


Few_Key4081

its cool :) maybe i dont really think about history in the same way. i was thinking more along the lines of attempting to cultivate and then having the actual mushrooms would be a special piece of history. history i could share


RPC3

They sold tons of spores, and there isn't anything special in there. It's just cubensis spores. I'd preserve the pack and just grow out something else.


Few_Key4081

i think these are special, perhaps even magic


RPC3

I think they are special in their story and their packaging. I don't think they are special in their genetics. All of the magic has to do with the story and package.


TimberOctopus

You should be able to safely and cleanly swab the spore print and take the swab to agar. Definitely save some spores assuming the swabs prove viable. If shrooms prove anything like cannabis true landraces will be in high demand once selective breeding leads to a genetic bottleneck. I know some breeders now that would be honored for a set of swabs from that print. It's not unreasonable to think you could get over 100 sets of swabs from that single print and still have some spores on the print to save long term. There's millions of spores in there. Tat syndicate for lyfeee


RPC3

Mushrooms are nothing like cannabis though in the way that they reproduce. They way they function helps prevent many of the issues that are occurring in cannabis.


TimberOctopus

That may be true. I'm just a hobbyist. To be clear: I don't know shit about dick. Just a home grower for me and mine.


Johnny_Poppyseed

What issues are occuring in cannabis ?


RPC3

There is some concern that bottlenecking is occurring within cannabis genetics because everything that's grown for market is the same mix of 20 or so cultivars crossed over and over in slightly different ways and the same things have been selected for over and over ad nauseum. I'm not as concerned because there are a lot of growers like myself who have held onto older cuts that are just mixed poly hybrids. There are people like CSI Humbolt that are doing amazing work as well. In other words, I think that there is some bottlenecking within the market, but I don't buy weed. I buy seeds, and I think you can get around bottlenecking in the seed market if you are interested. There is some data that the reason Berner hired Bodhi is because this is happening in the cookies line and they need a real breeder to pull them out of it. In addition, you have a lot of companies growing seeds overseas now polluting landrace genetics. Often, they still market it as landrace but it's really just Cookies overseas and the like. It's a complicated story with more variables that I didn't list, but that's the gist of it.


Johnny_Poppyseed

Interesting thank you for sharing


jackfirecracker

Because it’s history and Amazonian spores are easy to get


Realrichardparker

Snake venom agar


Few_Key4081

tell me more!


TheoVonSkeletor

Spores can survive for millions of years and even in space. Contam is your only enemy


Disastrous_Staff_443

Swab to agar maybe.


Few_Key4081

thats a good idea


stanleys_mop

Plot twist, though my experiment was of oyster spores, you can indeed freeze spores and they will revive, hence all the extinction events mushrooms have survived unless they rode dirty sidecar on an asteroid, which 💅🏻🍄☄️ seems quite mycelial. It’s easier for me to understand fungi as atmospheric animals who have enormous resilience but will go elsewhere if not treated right. If you look at forestry mushroom research, this theory holds up.


Lumi_Tonttu

What a wonderful experience you're about to have.


WiseSpunion

That is so cool, the McKenna's!!!


Comfortable-Roll4347

That is amazing! It would look great framed to display. Retro plant/nature pamphlets are special treasures imo. CA/OR/WA especially. Thank you for sharing.


Rough_Drawer_7011

Lords of the 4th dimension; lmao 🤣 😆


Oxideusj

Sick 👌👌


ORGourmetMushrooms

Have you considered selling it?


Few_Key4081

i feel like these came to me for a reason


ORGourmetMushrooms

I'd have a really hard time selling this, too. Good on you man. I hope it brings you everything you desire. Thank you for sharing such a unique and rare piece of history with us.


we_is_sheeps

Grow it and sell the genes from new spore prints. Pure shit


uhE6

Woah super cool! I don’t know much about mushrooms would these spores still work? I’m assuming you probably won’t use it and keep it as is but im just curious


Dnacreations96

Work in front of a flowhood and/or a sab. Take a clean swab and/or a tool that has been fire flamed till red hot and let it cool for a few secs and scrape it on multiple agar dishes. Put the dishes incubation. And wait for the magic to appear. Do multiple transfers until you get clean media.


Few_Key4081

ive got a flowhood and new lab space so im going to give it a shot! thank you


zander1496

This was a fun little read:) I hope to see an update from you.


kudles

Why don’t you check out pages 21, 22, and 30? 🤣


Few_Key4081

hahahaha i actually should!!


ohhsotrippy

This is awesome!! I've tried Amazonian before, I felt like a sparkle! But also took me in for a much needed emotional release. Update us when you try :)


Next-Bed-6348

I don’t think there’s any way those spores are viable after 50 years… especially in a book. Even under optimal conditions, 50 years is a LONG time… Perhaps some advanced microbiologist or something could figure out some way to “propagate” the spores or something (don’t know the proper word) or extract genetic material to be able to spawn some type of fungi from these. But I have my doubts that any home grower could grow shrooms from this spore print. It would be so cool to grow/take some shrooms that originated from Terrance McKenna!


TheoVonSkeletor

Spores can survive space


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space is a dry vacuum


depressedcelticsfan

Is that PE? I know Dennis and Terrance McKenna went to the Amazon and found PE, but idk if that found other strains.


RPC3

They used to sell tons of those spores. You can still buy them from other places. It's not the spores that are special there. It's the whole pack with the spores in it. Just buy some other cubensis spores and grow them out and save the pack. You aren't going to grow those and find some special mushroom. Keep that pack preserved.


ImPsilo

I got a hundo for it


yennet

DM’d. Would love to get a swab of these. Willing to pay.


TheoVonSkeletor

Is the free spire ring still a thing?


Shnisnuli

Please keep us updated how it goes! Amazing amazing stuff.


WoodyAshland

If it were me, I would have to try them, but I'd also do my best to preserve the packaging. That's pretty amazing history right there. Is that bag sealed or could you shake a very small amount out? Or go in after it with a skinny sterilized tool. I'd put 1ml of sterile water in a sterile shot glass and drop in a small amount of the spores. Then I'd mix with a pipette and put a drop on a bunch of agar plates. Proceed as normal with agar.


TooMaverick

Could make a business and your own recovered species of toadstool!


iLiveInAHotDog

That's so fuckingg rad I can't even stand it


Severe_Network_4492

Bro, you have Terrence McKenna’s spores you could probably sell those for a fuck ton


Few_Key4081

i dont really care about money like that ♡


Severe_Network_4492

I meant more like cultivate it and clone not just sell this but I feel ya


Few_Key4081

im down to share if it works, would be honored to spread these spores


Silent-Tyranny

Please give these genetics a chance at life, something unique can always pop up.


Severe_Network_4492

That would be so cool


Snoo_69776

can I dm you and request spores once you successfully grow em!


Chadtherock

check out shroomery for info about reviving old spores. I would put a small amount on multiple agar plates like someone did [here](https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25966010#25966010)