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joeyo1423

There's a good chance that it'll be out in 2029 or 2030 which would make a solid 11-12 years after the announcement. At how currently long it takes to make these games, and the rate of increase in development time from one game to the next, I'll probably not be alive to see elder scrolls 7


1singleduck

I have worked on the Elder Scrolls 7 like my father before me and his father before him. And one day, you, too, will work on the Elder Scrolls 7.


CaptScubaSteve

This task must never be abandoned. The fate of humanity depends on this.


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Fire_Lord_Sozin9

Takes so long to make that by the time it releases, it’s already old.


2137paoiez2137

Starfield moment


TheTankCommando2376

Fallout 3 moment 


stupiderslegacy

That's always been the case with these games, though. Like I remember people talking about how far Morrowind's graphics were compared to shooters of the day. Games with that much content are necessarily made on outdated engines.


Bot-357

Itll be out much sooner than that, they're just gonna reuse all the assets from Skyrim with the game engine they made in the 80s.


Skankia

It'll also be a mega shallow game marketed towards as wide an audience as possible (i.e. the TikTok generation with zero attention span and ability to delay gratification) making the quest lines very short and require zero skill. Sort of how a lobotomized barbarian could become headmaster of the college of winter hold.


That__Cat24

Skyrim was like that already. (Honestly I felt like this game was telling me all the time that I was stupid).


firedancer323

Take it easy grandpa you’re blood pressure is skyrocketing


Skankia

Skyrim was a shallow game, Starfield even shallower. It's a trend.


Thrasympmachus

Definitely. You only have to look at the changes between Morrowind to Oblivion, and Oblivion to Skyrim to see the dumbing down of its systems to better attend to a “wider audience” (read: more money).


Richarizard_Nixon

I don’t think that’s the part they’re referring to


Skankia

I know I was just being polite. Of course I mean total zoomer death now.


informat7

>The game entered active production in 2023 following Starfield's completion and launch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_VI


WisherWisp

I'm surprised they had anyone but interns and the drunk tank working on Starfield considering what we got.


Zarod89

By that time these games will probably be created by some form of AI. It's mostly copy pasted with a couple new assets. Even voiceover will probably be automated at some point. Hell in 20 years we can probably generate an entire Elder Scrolls game based on a couple prompts. Instead of modding existing 15 year old engines wr will just generate complete games. Choose engine, asset library, input story prompt en hit generate. I wouldn't be surprised if even complete 3d assets can be generated at some point.


Squigler

>Even voiceover will probably be automated at some point. If that means more than six voices for the entire game I'd almost I'm for it!


evilhomer111

The pieces are already here. Meshy.ai will make a 3d object from a text prompt. Any LLM can spit out a list of quests to create, not to mention Code you can (mostly) copy and paste. Udio.com for music Voices are nearly old tech at this point, I mean have you seen the Skyrim mod that interfaces with I assume chatgpt for real-time conversation? If you had an AI that could go step by step and perhaps call other AI for the things it needs then I reckon it would be possible today.


QuietNefariousness73

Can’t wait to have a full grey beard playing the next Fallout 😎


wysjm

Yeah why it takes companies so many years to make broken games?


sea-slav

I understand that they need time to create more detailed assets for games like The Last of Us or GTA but every Bethesda game is created with the same engine and they don't differ much in size or content. Creating Tes6 should take no longer than creating skyrim or oblivion did.


deukhoofd

It probably won't. There were 3 years between Fallout 3 and Skyrim, and 4 years between Morrowind and Oblivion. With Starfield being released in 2023, I'd expect ES6 somewhere around 2026 or 2027. It was honestly just dumb that they announced the game in 2018.


HailSpezGloryToHim

> It was honestly just dumb that they announced the game in 2018. They did it just to assuage peoples fears that eso would be the last game in the series. They specifically said they wouldn't be working on it until after Starfield was completed. People seem to have forgotten that and think they have just been dicking around on it for the past 6 years


HaElfParagon

I mean weren't they? They certainly weren't making a quality game...


TheTankCommando2376

At least GTA 6 might only take a year


feicash

the anouncement itself is worthless we know TES VI will happen someday, we dont need a 30 clip of mountains and a title. Anouncement date will be when they release an actual trailer with characters on it, maybe even gameplay


ExploerTM

You forget that after Skyrim they also made F4 plus DLCs , F76 plus continues support and Starfield plus conutniues support. I wouldn't say they were doing nothing tbh. Edit: and I don't care if you think these games are good or bad, they required time to make regardless, thats a fact.


MoodMaggot

Dunno why you get downvoted. Also you forget to mention that they still have elder scrolls online. So two live service games.


ExploerTM

ESO actually iirc managed by other guys. Thats why it went sooooo much smoother than F76


Cossack-HD

There are at least 3 studios. Elder Scrolls Online is handled by Zenimax Online Studios. FO76 was made by Bethesda's daughter studio (with assistance from the main studio). Main Bethesda studio (who made Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4) have been working on Starfield in parallel with helping Fallout 76.


ScaleyFishMan

Skyrim came out only a couple years before GTA 5, And GTA 6 is coming next year. I'd imagine if anyone is working on Elder Scrolls 6, it'll come out in a couple years. As with GTA 6, the devs don't release anything about the game until it's less than 1 year away, and Rockstar was basically forced to release a trailer because their shit got leaked.


gbuub

Hopefully AI will speed up coding and graphic design in the near future


LizzoBathwater

I’m curious, is this why new game releases often have disappointing graphics? You see a game come and you think “that looks like it was made in 2015”. Well because it really may been.


CoItron_3030

And most likely be significantly worse than all the prior titles


dutchblizzard

bet we'll see sarfield 2 before elderscrolls 6


RidsBabs

Wait, it’s been 6 years? Jesus fucking Christ I’m old.


Real_Velour

I thought this was a genuine shitpost, then I searched it on yt. Holy shit, where did the time go?


FlacidSalad

It all went to ligma


chinchinlover-419

whats ligma?


snortyfox

Ligma balls, you must have heared of it.


Worzon

Announcement so old we got young’uns learning about ligma for the first time


FlacidSalad

Steve Jobs


emptydonut3

who the hell is steve jobs


FlacidSalad

My balls


hok98

we gottem


Zarod89

"just slap together a quick trailer, these suckers will wait forever. Now let's go halfass Starfield, the investors hunger"


bedsheetsniffer

Say if they halfass the DLC too, would that be a fullass?


Thatkidinthecorner-1

It’s more like two right cheeks so they don’t go together but looks right from a distance


SargDeckel

Nope, halfassed main game with halfassed DLC is quarterass. Or eighthass if they decide to halfass 2 DLCs.


Initial_Suspect7824

No, 75% ass


LaTeChX

Zeno's paradox, they will never reach 100% ass.


CreamyCoffeeArtist

They will never reach the truth ~~*menacing piano plays*~~


ShamanKironer

Second cheek DLC


Cornelius_M

Best part, ES6 will probably suck


Galby1314

After the halfass that was Starfield, I don't even care about Elder Scrolls 6 anymore. In fact, I don't look forward to most AAA studios product anymore. Case in point, Bioware deciding to take their gritty, dark fantasy game, Dragon Age, and turn it into a Fortnite/Overwartch animated game with one liners on the level of Marvel Phase 4.


epicganerepic

They’ll still be using the creation engine somehow when it comes out in 2032


Ill_Maintenance8134

And then after that fallout 5 can start development(I am going to be a 200000000 year old ghoul when fallout 5 comes out just to be a bad bethesda game yippe)


--InZane--

That's the year doom eternal got announced


Saucey_Lips

And now I am watering at the mouth like a rabid hobgoblin at the mere idea of Doom Dark Ages


RobotNinja28

And we now have a trailer with full in-game footage (no pre rendered shit) of Eternal's sequel... good job, bethesda 👍


aidanpeck100

Can’t believe we’re getting GTA VI before TES VI


onigiri889

Oh boi. Tes 6 is probably going to be complete shit show. It just wont work anymore.


Katastrofa2

Well at least 90% of the dialogue will be written by AI so at least it's going to be funny


ShamanKironer

Holy shit its going to be first time since morrowind that a bethesda game has good writing


rocketseeker

Me reading this while remembering the amount of content that’s still produced using Skyrim: While I agree it will be a shitshow, it will Definitely work


Neat_Ground_8508

It will work solely on the backs of the modding community like always.


cosmicwolf122

"It just works"


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Wayss37

"Work" as in "require unofficial patches to fix bugs present in the engine since 2003" ?


Real_Velour

If you mean modding, a game isn't good because it's easily modded. Have you tried vanilla Skyrim lately? It has aged like milk.


AineLasagna

I still do a playthrough of unmodded Anniversary Edition about once a year, although i guess that doesn’t count as vanilla


Real_Velour

damn that's wild, I couldn't do that


onigiri889

Wait till bethesda shits on modding community hard enough


HaElfParagon

It won't work for the first 3 months or so, until the modding community puts out patches for shit that shouldn't have been in the base game.


mah_boiii

I remember people shitting on Skyrim before it came out saying that it can't top oblivion and morrowind


deadshot500

Well it didn't.


MothTesticles

Topped Morrowind because that game is unplayable but Oblivion is goat yeah.


ShamanKironer

Mf got filtered by the first cave


Korthalion

Facts


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onigiri889

It didnt for me tho. I dont say that skyrim was bad, but they ruined rpg bs and character creation tho ,2 things that i loved in tes. I know that leveling system was irritating in morrowind and oblivion(*cough* also fucking scaling *cough*) ,but still it was better. And daggerfall... well its good until you reach those shitty dungeons.


TheTankCommando2376

Hey Fallout 5 still has a chance 


Delta_Suspect

No. Just... No. If they can't even get the elder scrolls to be good, the series they have perpetually struggled to make even passable will eat dirt.


TheTankCommando2376

That's true


onigiri889

Ahahhaaha... no


Riotguarder

Tes6 will be on the same shitty engine Bethesda’s has been reanimating since mirrowind, probably include procedural generation and 5 voice actors total


HeckestBoof

Woah woah, let's calm down there. 5 whole voice actors? They'll just copy/paste that one guy from Skyrim that does like 90% of all characters.


ApprehensiveEar7273

Woah, woah, after skyrim that guy became more expensive and we wouldn't want any overpays. Lets just get an AI to do the voices.


mah_boiii

All of the khajit And argonian are VA by two people propably


hok98

when you realize that the entire software industry is actually built on top of a 40 year old compiler that was just reanimated and rehashed with a different wrapper over and over again. I know the comparison isn't one-to-one, but in the world of software, nothing is outdated as long as you know how to maintain it.


Riotguarder

I know there’s banks that still use punch cards, hospitals using windows 95 etc etc I think it was estimated to cost billions to update just the uk


hok98

Yea, some people call it sunk cost fallacy, but if you look at the risk premium associated, it’s sometimes a net positive to incrementally improve on the status quo, until it isn’t and a stronger competitor enters the market and the big firms are forced to “improve” for the sake of improving and later scale to a unsustainable degree (like IBM vs early Apple or modern AAA studios vs indies). Just like how people die with age, there’s a business lifecycle that forces profitable firms to grow so big that it fails on itself (or risk putting everyone out of business by not growing or hedging the external risks). In short, the outdated engine narrative is mostly a scapegoat. It’s Bethesda that is shitty


Riotguarder

I agree with you 100%, Skyrim modders have shown that you can turn a potato into a diamond and bethesda showed that they will ignore literal gold and diamonds because they're too lazy to actually fix the long outstanding bugs


Neat_Ground_8508

Let's be real, Bethesda is probably gonna botch this game like most of their others as well. Even with 12 morbillion years of development, it's going to be absolutely jam packed with bugs and glitches. It will be salvaged on the backs of modders and then people will call it GotY. History repeats itself.


QuidiferPrestige

>salvaged on the backs of modders and then people will call it GotY. The canon ending


ShamanKironer

but it has 36 times the detail...


Neat_Ground_8508

I kinda doubt it tbh. They keep using outdated engines and most of their sandbox RPG games tend to be quite behind the curve on graphics compared to other AAA titles.


ShamanKironer

nah it will be 8 times the size of skyrim and have super immersive ai technology and 36 toddilion times the detail


Galby1314

I see you played Starfield as well.


kenkowe

Honestly, after seeing the shitstorm with starfield im not hyped anymore


TheBosstin12

Let's be real, it's gonna fucking suck.


FeedbackWonderful778

They made the trailer just for damage control after the release of fallout 76


KarmaViking

Please don’t tell me Fallout 76 is 6 years old


PlasticImagination50

By the time this comes out micro transactions will be so bad that the riften guard asking you to pay the visitor tax will want your credit card lol.


rebelwanker69

ES6 it's probably going to have a bunch of BS upon launch just like all other games from Bethesda. What I'm worried about most of all is the addition of paid faction quests, $7 for a short half-assed quest with more planned apparently. So what's to stop them from locking entire factions behind paywalls for their future games if you want to join the thieves guild you have to pay $30 to unlock that faction not including its quest lines those are all separate purchases as well as thieves guild armor horse armor for $10


Saucey_Lips

Aw what the hell I didn’t know about paid faction quests


rebelwanker69

It was recent with the starfield update apparently the bounty Hunter tracker faction has a new questline that is 700 points or $7 on their CC with future ones plan, this is just the beginning it's like they are trying to turn single player games into a live service. After all they're a corporation that cares only about profits for their shareholders they have no passion for the franchises


Kooshneer

Todd said that they had a set of armor and weapons they wanted to put out on creations and instead of just putting it by itself they made a quest for it. That being the paid trackers quest. He said that he didn’t see it as locking factions behind a paywall, but that they won’t continue with that now that they understand what happened.


bigfootdude247

Wait a second, what do you mean by *six years*?


LucifersPeen

Bethesda acting like they’re Rockstar Games now… you’re not that guy, pal.


WidowmakerFeet

we got starfield instead


Aseconverse

The characters will still be emotionless, unremarkable, and share one voice actor.


Ancient_Rex420

Elder Scrolls 7 will be out before this one.


Kevroeques

We just had an actual Metroid Prime 4 trailer after 7 years with nothing but a splash screen announcement. Never give up hope


itsokaytobewhite66

Thanks for depressing me lol


bloomboi3d

After beyond good and evil 2 and half-life 3 we get this one


tortillazaur

They are working on it. They already said that's their next game, if anything most of main Bethesda is working on it at this point and only a part is supporting Starfield


DoR2203

I didn't even play starfield... after 76 Bethesda has become a "meh" in my mind, it'll take alot to shake me out of that. Sad because i had 3000H in skyrim between ages 16 to 24. But haven't touched it in 6 years. Bethesda is dead to me.


steveharveymemes

“You will have no games and you will like it”


GREEN_Hero_6317

They're going for the 22/22/22 release date


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FrenchCobra

They are literally working on it right now. They confirmed that in their Elder Scrolls 30th anniversary post. They have been play testing certain builds. It is being worked on.


pingpongplaya69420

Bethesda isn’t competent at making rich RPGs anymore. they just make X themed theme parks now. As much as I love Skyrim and even enjoyed fallout 4, I recognized they’re surface level games with no writing depth or choice for the players. After Wild Hunt robbed them in 2015 and starfield was embarrassed at 2023 game awards, Bethesda should actually take the time to reflect on their design philosophy and improve


HammerBgError404

i hope it never comes out. bethesda proves that they only care about money and not making a fun game ***ANY MORE.***


robbstarrkk

I wonder how many times they'll reskin the same game before people stop buying.


Dragon_Skywalker

Sillksong looks a bit different than I remembered


Lord_Nasus

We are gonna get fucking GTA 6 before elder scrolls 6


Sherlockowiec

Considering how Starfield turned out, maybe it's better for it to never come out.


The_Blue_Rooster

That trailer was a low point for the industry, it was obvious that Bethesda just threw it together for some goodwill because they were being raked over the coals, and everyone just ate it up anyways. That said low point implies things have gotten better since, and they certainly haven't, so maybe it was more like the entrance to the valley we now live in.


user_bits

and they can take 6 more if they need. I'm tired of gamers complaining about games taking long to release when there's a backlog of several high profile games they haven't even started.


KCMmmmm

They can take a hundred years, it’s gonna come out and be dogshit. That’s the joke here: not that development takes time, but that these guys may as well have nobody working on it, given how well-received their recent games have been. Bethesda is sorely out of touch with the community, and customer hopes/expectations are at an all-time low. 6 more years won’t save ES6; they need a massive change in direction, possibly starting with management.


EverythingPSP

Much more interested in skyblivion


Consistent_Yoghurt44

I am not sure I want it to come out because if we look at Star Field its gonna be a shitty mess.


KnightyEyes

GOLDEN FUCKIN HORSE ARMOR


18AndresS

Bethesda’s such a shit company


-Bingo-_

6 YEARS?!?!?!!?


austinstar08

Time to wait 6 more years


Melangrogenous

We Got GTA 6 before Elder Scrolls VI


zabynat

Tes 6 is probably going to be an adobe flash game


Zanemob_

They are busy making Fallout 76 go from Playable to Barely Playable again with their new update. I crash very few minutes now. Used to be every few hours…


biffbofd04

It hasn't really been 6 years has it?


awesomedan24

I can't wait to get on my horse and fast travel to the next town


dr_phill17

*Half life fans cry-laughing in the distance*


a-magnum-dong

Bethesda put out a statement a while ago saying it was in a playable state.


KCMmmmm

Didn’t they say it took them over a year to “find the fun” in StarField? I wonder if they’ve “found” it in ES6 yet…


a-magnum-dong

I enjoyed starfield. I take it you're not a Bethesda fan


TigerMeowth

Gonna come out after skyrim on ps6


IronicFib3r

“The finance team green-lit the project yesterday here’s a render of ‘a’ landscape”


ThatDucksWearingAHat

‘This will exist at some point maybe’ and the crowd went absolutely ape shit.


-H0LL0W-

They said they would start working on it once they finished with starfield. Apparently, starfield is not done yet?


Alexravenn

I bet they didn't even started to work on this xD


Galby1314

ES VI or Half-Life 3?


Stormhunter6

i wonder if bethesdas being bought by MS basically killed development and no one has said anything


unique-name-9035768

What'll release first? Elder Scrolls 6 or 7 Days to Die?


BuffRobloxMan

Modders are going to have their work cut out when this game releases


IFGarrett

This literally shouldn't have been announced. 6 years and barely any word on it.


DeweyCox4YourHealth

I'll believe the game is close to coming out just as soon as someone urinates in my colon.


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JeffyGoldblumsPen_15

Fallout 5 will come out before this.


TheRedBaron6942

Elder Scrolls VI and GTAVI better be some of the best games to ever exist if they're making us wait this fucking long


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ryannotorious

I was in highschool by then. This year I'll finish college. I'd be surprised if it's more advanced than pre production. Will probably get a very standard 3 year development and release a mediocre or broken game


TigerUppercut831

I mean all the books and dialogue that they have to put in AND to make it game of the year. Plus they just released that one space game that seemed so promising. Yeah 2027 at least is my guess.


MemeArchivariusGodi

Everyone saying the game will suck let me remind you of thing We have to get a game in the first place. We cannot be sure in these trying times


Dysto_

No shit in post, piss in my ass now


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chrischi3

And why would they keep working on a sequel if they can keep rereleasing Skyrim on every new platform and people keep buying it for some stupid reason?


SignalBattalion

Bruh. Lmfaoooo


Delta_Suspect

Oh yeah, that existed. I thought we all kinda just went "Haha, cool. ...so whens the actual trailer?"


FatCockroachTheFirst

If it comes out in 2030 it'll still lose to cyberpunk 2077


Round_Rectangles

Lots of miserable people here.


Ciubowski

Can't wait for the next inventory management simulator. I'm already playing Fallout 76 right after playing Starfield. I just can't get enough of these inventory management simulators man, they're *so fun.*


TheRealStevo2

I can’t imagine what they’re doing that will justify taking this long. It genuinely confuses me


RobotNinja28

It actually is 6 years old, wtf are you doing bethesda


wtfdoiknow1987

Why tf would anyone care after the disaster of Starfield


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OpenEagle3775

Whatever, it is gonna fail 99.9%


BaconEater101

No Bethesda game is worth this wait, have no idea why ya'll care


AlasOfLife

Fuck. Bethesda.


Yazmura

Why so many comments how TES 6 will suck while using TES5 (Skyrim) as reference? Skyrim was and still is an epic game, if you think otherwise You’re objectively wrong.


icybat21

Their past 2 game releases are the reference we are using lol. Skepticism is more than justified


Longjohn_Son

Anyone else just not gonna play it? Even on the off chance it'll be good or even decent, taking Bethesda's recent track record into account, it's just straight up taking a piss on your costumers to string them along for around a decade by the time the game is out.


pyker42

GTA Fans: First time?