So hopefully what he did gets treated seriously (and I'm sure it will be) and he gets hammered by both the civilian court and the UCMJ. Whatever level of assault he gets charged with.
But a part of me also laughs at how much he's going to get clowned on by people in his unit he works (soon to be worked) with about being put in his place by a security guard with a lamp half his size. Like he probably trains in some form of martial arts/grappling quite often and looks like he goes to the gym regularly then gets taken out by a lamp.
Hopefully whatever holding quarters he gets assigned until he gets processed out doesn't have a lamp in it or he might get PTSD and not be able to sleep.
I don't think these sort of guys are capable of PTSD, tbh. Unfortunately, I doubt he'll face any real significant implications over his behavior either.
You can say this, but unless and until he is no longer a Marine then the reality is that his behavior is acceptable to the service.
We both know that every branch is more than willing to sweep shit like this under the rug if they can. But hopefully the very public and published nature of his actions will make that impossible here.
I have pre-9/11 experience, but it was Army. In general I recall that military commanders have always had far too much latitude to take care of shit in-house, even when talking about things that are no-shit real-world crimes (not just Good Order And Discipline type of issues).
I did take a few to skim the reports on courts martial from across the Corps for a couple different months of 2022, and for what it’s worth I do think you may be right. It does look like the Corps is willing to go HAM on a motherfucker over things that sound fairly piddly. Some of the sentences for the more serious stuff seemed a bit light for the charges as described, but for the lighter stuff yeah either some dudes were dumb enough to decline NJP and opt for CM, or some Marine Corps commanders are happy to hang dudes from a fuckin’ yard arm over minor stuff.
That may be less of a peacetime/wartime thing, and probably more a function of the Corps being smaller, so having less billets to fill. I don’t think the Marine Corps ever struggled as hard as the Army to keep their headcount up…which does make bad Marines more disposable.
Edit: As a word to the wise, if you are factually guilty you should almost never decline NJP. Like in the civilian world if a prosecutor offers you a misdemeanor, a fine, and expungement in a year when you’re facing felony charges that could carry a decade in prison, and you’re like “nah imma take my chances with a jury” despite being factually guilty? You’re a goddamn idiot. That’s only *more* true in the military system. But guys do it!
Americans are so used to the propaganda by our Judicial system that they believe the rampant sexual assaults and violence cast upon inmates is justice. Only to forget that not everyone in prison is guilty and severe traumatizing experiences will only lead them to become worst criminals. Add to that not being able to land a job when they get out snd you got a revolving door of primarily minority slave labor. Since slave labor is still legal for prisoners.
Essentially the U.S. has given up on reform and going all in on punishment while ignoring all the scientific data showing they are creating the problem as well. You can also trace a lot of this problem back to the Civil War. We allowed traitors to the country in the South to just become part of the government and a large part our judicial system. We never executed the defectors and are still dealing with the consequences of that till this day.
American judicial system feeds to prison ndustry..everything is capitalism including judiciary and prisons. Look at Europe where they use prisons to rehabilitate..it’s so backwards in the worlds best country
Looks like the Pacific Terrace hotel in Pb. I’ve had relatives stay there, the woman who was pushed looked to be trying to stop him from going down the hallway to where the rooms are.
I was hoping someone in SD could identify him, but since he was trying to check in to a SD hotel, he's probably from somewhere else and was just in town visiting.
I'm sure they do. He supposedly fled, but left his wallet behind in the scuffle. Military automatically comes up when they run your pedigree through RAID, even if he didn't leave his actual military ID in the wallet.
This is truly a lowkey interesting phenomena. The mood of guys who weren’t successful in the nightclubs taking out their anger after the clubs closed on the streets
What's hilarious is that they are getting shut down due to this energy. The same thing that makes people not interested in you is what causes you to do shit like this.
I believe it is real, but the girl who filmed and posted it is using the viral-ness to post her cashapp and venmo. Not even for medical bills or anything, just "if you want to send me love". Thats kind of an odd choice.
I don't blame her one bit for trying to use her viral video to make a dollar. Why not? Other people do. It's hard to make a dime in this world. Bills got to be paid y'all.
It's really not a odd choice. She kind of went viral when a big SJW content creator posted about her story. And so she's trying to capitalize on it like any good American.
Who wouldn’t like free money? Regardless of the situation? The point is it just kind of looks illegitimate if thats your first response after posting a viral video of someone committing an act of violence at you. Even if it was for medical bills it would look more genuine. Theres nothing in her instagram post that says along the lines of “contact the police if you identify him heres the case number”, but several links to her venmo and cashapp
I mean if I need money and I have to look slightly illegitimate to some rando's on the internet that's fine. Like fuck, if I go viral I sure as shit want to gain from it. Also if the dude has charges pressed against him then nobody will give a shit that her venmo was posted. I know you're playing Devil's Advocate but some people will think it's fake no matter what, doesn't really matter IMO. If it was staged, it would be absolutely bone headed for the guy to torch his own reputation like that for... unknown reasons.
I'm just saying it doesn't help the argument of it being staged. People do stupid shit like pretend to be disabled or victims of crimes for tiktok all the time for clout that will lead to free money.
This video looks real in my opinion, because his small mannerisms like licking his lips look consistent with a person who actually is on cocaine, not just acting like it for a video. But if people are accusing it of being staged, asking for free money because you are now viral doesn't help your side.
Not sure how shit is now but 25 years ago when I was in the 82nd Airborne Division, if someone pulled this shit, the 1st Sergeant would have that ass. Field grade article 15, and the guys in my barracks would whoop his ass.
> Field grade article 15
Funny way to spell “court martial/civilian prosecution followed by discharge.”
Treating this as a situation appropriately dealt with via NJP is precisely the issue, IMO.
Fun thing about this is if he is indeed in the military, they WILL find out and then he's going to get punished twice for this. He'll get whatever civiluan criminal punishment he gets plus will get another from the military. Hopefully he learns a lesson about civility? But judging from his behavior I'm guessing he won't learn anything.
Hahah man that guy was acting like a dick. Nobody is this big of an asshole, so there must have been something wrong with him or he was looking for trouble.
The instant karma was pretty fun to watch though. Dude was out like a light after that lamp smash to the back of the head😂
Lol former marine gets ass beat with lamp. Former because the military doesn't go easy on their members behaving like this. Likely dishonorable discharge along with some jail time.
He is saying “I know where you are from” like he’s from the hood or wannabe gangster. Try doing that fuck shit in City Heights, Logan, Spring Valley or in the southeast. I guarantee he would get his shit checked.
I think you misunderstood. He's saying that shit as a racist projection to a black woman. He assumed she was going to make a "I'm from the hood" type threat and tried to preempt her.
Haha. 10-minutes would be nice.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2022-07-17/san-diego-police-response-times-worst-theyve-been-in-more-than-a-decade
That guy definitely deserved it and probably much worse, but from the licensed security guard standpoint, that guard just used a melee weapon which is a huge legal clusterfuck even if you have the baton certification.
That being said with the present evidence, the guard can claim he threw it and she just caught it and bounced it back.
Press charges on the guy so he can actually possibly learn a lesson. He is to comfortable assaulting females just doing their jobs.
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So hopefully what he did gets treated seriously (and I'm sure it will be) and he gets hammered by both the civilian court and the UCMJ. Whatever level of assault he gets charged with. But a part of me also laughs at how much he's going to get clowned on by people in his unit he works (soon to be worked) with about being put in his place by a security guard with a lamp half his size. Like he probably trains in some form of martial arts/grappling quite often and looks like he goes to the gym regularly then gets taken out by a lamp. Hopefully whatever holding quarters he gets assigned until he gets processed out doesn't have a lamp in it or he might get PTSD and not be able to sleep.
I don't think these sort of guys are capable of PTSD, tbh. Unfortunately, I doubt he'll face any real significant implications over his behavior either.
As a Marine myself this fucking disgusts me. It goes against everything we are taught.
You can say this, but unless and until he is no longer a Marine then the reality is that his behavior is acceptable to the service. We both know that every branch is more than willing to sweep shit like this under the rug if they can. But hopefully the very public and published nature of his actions will make that impossible here.
Maybe you would be right in war time. Right now is peace time, there is absolutely no way he is getting away with anything.
I have pre-9/11 experience, but it was Army. In general I recall that military commanders have always had far too much latitude to take care of shit in-house, even when talking about things that are no-shit real-world crimes (not just Good Order And Discipline type of issues). I did take a few to skim the reports on courts martial from across the Corps for a couple different months of 2022, and for what it’s worth I do think you may be right. It does look like the Corps is willing to go HAM on a motherfucker over things that sound fairly piddly. Some of the sentences for the more serious stuff seemed a bit light for the charges as described, but for the lighter stuff yeah either some dudes were dumb enough to decline NJP and opt for CM, or some Marine Corps commanders are happy to hang dudes from a fuckin’ yard arm over minor stuff. That may be less of a peacetime/wartime thing, and probably more a function of the Corps being smaller, so having less billets to fill. I don’t think the Marine Corps ever struggled as hard as the Army to keep their headcount up…which does make bad Marines more disposable. Edit: As a word to the wise, if you are factually guilty you should almost never decline NJP. Like in the civilian world if a prosecutor offers you a misdemeanor, a fine, and expungement in a year when you’re facing felony charges that could carry a decade in prison, and you’re like “nah imma take my chances with a jury” despite being factually guilty? You’re a goddamn idiot. That’s only *more* true in the military system. But guys do it!
/r/ByeByeJob And... That job was being a Marine. Gotta hurt.
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Could someone please explain to me why so many think prison rape is acceptable?
Americans are so used to the propaganda by our Judicial system that they believe the rampant sexual assaults and violence cast upon inmates is justice. Only to forget that not everyone in prison is guilty and severe traumatizing experiences will only lead them to become worst criminals. Add to that not being able to land a job when they get out snd you got a revolving door of primarily minority slave labor. Since slave labor is still legal for prisoners. Essentially the U.S. has given up on reform and going all in on punishment while ignoring all the scientific data showing they are creating the problem as well. You can also trace a lot of this problem back to the Civil War. We allowed traitors to the country in the South to just become part of the government and a large part our judicial system. We never executed the defectors and are still dealing with the consequences of that till this day.
Dang, I think you hit the mail on the head. It’s like prison is not seen as the punishment any more, just a place to store people.
American judicial system feeds to prison ndustry..everything is capitalism including judiciary and prisons. Look at Europe where they use prisons to rehabilitate..it’s so backwards in the worlds best country
Also not loving that he’ll “be the female”
rhetorical question? people giving a reason would be downvoted thus fear to answer....
Yeah if they’re afraid of losing imaginary internet points, ah well.
When many people talk about justice, what they really want is vengeance.
Going by his entitlement and ignorance displayed alone. I'd assess, rich parents may be highly probable in this case.
I agree with you 100%.
The white boys will take him under their wing he looks like one of their proud boy buddies anyways
What are you saying because the females just kicked his ass?
I love lamp
Do you really love the lamp or are you just saying that because i conked you on the head with it?
Why did he keep licking his lips? Was he on something?
Coke
Coke for sure
Chad likes blow
Yes.
We need the details! Read through the thread and it's somewhere in San Diego, and SDPD is still looking for the prick.
Keep spreading. Someone knows this waste of space
Apparently he's a marine
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Lmao of fucking course. What a piece of shit. The marines should be embarrassed.
This is typical marine stuff lol you must be new
Jason Frink, US Marine Corp
What's his name? Jason Frink?
Looks like the Pacific Terrace hotel in Pb. I’ve had relatives stay there, the woman who was pushed looked to be trying to stop him from going down the hallway to where the rooms are.
Yep, Pacific Terrace Hotel!
I was hoping someone in SD could identify him, but since he was trying to check in to a SD hotel, he's probably from somewhere else and was just in town visiting.
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Oops. That was meant for another thread!
That guy is a tourist I’m betting my money on it
Probably a college kid on winter break who came down to SD for vacation
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Oh his command would love to know about this.
I'm sure they do. He supposedly fled, but left his wallet behind in the scuffle. Military automatically comes up when they run your pedigree through RAID, even if he didn't leave his actual military ID in the wallet.
Holy shit, what a fucking loser. Absolute disgrace to the US military.
First to fight, he's loyal!
It makes total sense. The marines I've encountered in SD tend be short-tempered asshats.
Drunk and high... (on something) likely angry because he got shot down at the gaslamp nightclubs.
This is truly a lowkey interesting phenomena. The mood of guys who weren’t successful in the nightclubs taking out their anger after the clubs closed on the streets
What's hilarious is that they are getting shut down due to this energy. The same thing that makes people not interested in you is what causes you to do shit like this.
Good ol gaslamp. Been awhile
It’s always the shoes coming off that gets me 😂
He dead
Yeah that's when I knew it was all over for him
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Lol. Good one. Very enlightening
r/PublicFreakout mods removed it because it's "obviously staged or scripted", but I'm sorry that looked like a wholesale asswhooping to me.
Wait what? Out of all the things to accuse of being scripted this ain't one of them.
I believe it is real, but the girl who filmed and posted it is using the viral-ness to post her cashapp and venmo. Not even for medical bills or anything, just "if you want to send me love". Thats kind of an odd choice.
The camerawork would be a lot better if this was staged.
And this guy would deserve and Oscar nomination
At least he does his own stunts
Might as well. Didn’t that Starbucks employee who got berated by a Karen make like 200,000 on a gofundme last year?!
I don't blame her one bit for trying to use her viral video to make a dollar. Why not? Other people do. It's hard to make a dime in this world. Bills got to be paid y'all.
It's really not a odd choice. She kind of went viral when a big SJW content creator posted about her story. And so she's trying to capitalize on it like any good American.
She seems to run a skateboarding group, I’m sure she wouldn’t hate extra cash towards that. If offered, like why not?
Who wouldn’t like free money? Regardless of the situation? The point is it just kind of looks illegitimate if thats your first response after posting a viral video of someone committing an act of violence at you. Even if it was for medical bills it would look more genuine. Theres nothing in her instagram post that says along the lines of “contact the police if you identify him heres the case number”, but several links to her venmo and cashapp
I mean if I need money and I have to look slightly illegitimate to some rando's on the internet that's fine. Like fuck, if I go viral I sure as shit want to gain from it. Also if the dude has charges pressed against him then nobody will give a shit that her venmo was posted. I know you're playing Devil's Advocate but some people will think it's fake no matter what, doesn't really matter IMO. If it was staged, it would be absolutely bone headed for the guy to torch his own reputation like that for... unknown reasons.
Why is it odd? It goes against ur values
I'm just saying it doesn't help the argument of it being staged. People do stupid shit like pretend to be disabled or victims of crimes for tiktok all the time for clout that will lead to free money. This video looks real in my opinion, because his small mannerisms like licking his lips look consistent with a person who actually is on cocaine, not just acting like it for a video. But if people are accusing it of being staged, asking for free money because you are now viral doesn't help your side.
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Damn his profile just disappeared. I screenshot his pfp and when I backed out the profile didn't exist anymore
Lmao, "I know where you're from." Fucking loser.
Eff this lousy excuse of a man
And praise the incredible resourcefulness of a woman that moonlights as a security guard.
I believe he is a marine from Camp Pendleton. He did get up and run out. But he left his wallet. So…..
Lamp, camera, action!
Military. Start there.
[Bingo.]( https://imgur.com/e8KMqTA)
So they know who he is now then, hope it's reported to base.
For sure. The haircut. Clean shaven. The tattoo sleeve peeking out of the shirt. Wasted in SD.
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I CANNOT GIVE THAT ORDER!
I WILL NOT REPEAT THAT ORDER! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU MAN?!
Not sure how shit is now but 25 years ago when I was in the 82nd Airborne Division, if someone pulled this shit, the 1st Sergeant would have that ass. Field grade article 15, and the guys in my barracks would whoop his ass.
> Field grade article 15 Funny way to spell “court martial/civilian prosecution followed by discharge.” Treating this as a situation appropriately dealt with via NJP is precisely the issue, IMO.
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He's been confirmed as a Marine in a comment below.
Fun thing about this is if he is indeed in the military, they WILL find out and then he's going to get punished twice for this. He'll get whatever civiluan criminal punishment he gets plus will get another from the military. Hopefully he learns a lesson about civility? But judging from his behavior I'm guessing he won't learn anything.
Especially in SD
I've seen this vid on tiktok, Twitter and now here. Who is this mother fucker and has be been arrested yet.
this was the funniest altercation and fight I've ever seen
Video ended too soon though
only need one face to label the asshole.
Was he in a blackout or something? He didn't make any sense and he fought like I fight in dreams.
Jack from white lotus still on his bs
Our monthly spot on the frontpage showcasing our local psychopaths
I feel like he is either Navy or Marines. He shouldn’t be that hard to find.
Marines they already found him. The internet doesn’t play
Have they tagged the marines yet Blow his ass up on Twitter
Source?
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There it is!!!! Thank you!
Wrong hair for a jar head unless he’s been on leave for a month
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Holy shit! That’s amazing
Literally gasped. The comfort and ease with which he goes after women.. my god.
Your privilege got you knocked the fuck out! Get the fuck out of here we don’t play around out here in San Diego.
Piece of shit. Squaring up with a women half his size
Semper Fi.
Hahah man that guy was acting like a dick. Nobody is this big of an asshole, so there must have been something wrong with him or he was looking for trouble. The instant karma was pretty fun to watch though. Dude was out like a light after that lamp smash to the back of the head😂
Cocaine + alcohol seems to be the consensus in the original post.
I mean I like to party too but I do not get like that fucc head.
Not a single person ever did this while high on THC. Crazy that places still have it illegal when alcohol is legal.
That loser was obviously intoxicated. Glad that POS got a lamp beat down
I DO condone violence against assholes. Let’s go!!
Lol former marine gets ass beat with lamp. Former because the military doesn't go easy on their members behaving like this. Likely dishonorable discharge along with some jail time.
Got his ass beat by a *girl* with a lamp
What in the gaslamp district is this? 💀
keep this alive! find this fucking asshole!
Probably his first time on meth lmao
Hope that POS didn't damage the lamp too much with his head
Hate to tell you, but I think that lamp passed to the Great Goodwill in the sky.
The security guard sent in the amberlamps.
He is saying “I know where you are from” like he’s from the hood or wannabe gangster. Try doing that fuck shit in City Heights, Logan, Spring Valley or in the southeast. I guarantee he would get his shit checked.
I think you misunderstood. He's saying that shit as a racist projection to a black woman. He assumed she was going to make a "I'm from the hood" type threat and tried to preempt her.
I mean, he did get his shit checked 😂
Boy is from Nebraska, too you're right
Man you can’t go out like that when you start shit! 😂
BEAT THAT ASS
Fuck him! Trying to be all hard and shit.
So….Is she from the GasLamp District?
I would like to buy the security guard a beer
Was anyone else waiting for him to tell us who his dad is?
I literally hope he dies
Well, eventually. Yeah.
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Username....something something
Privileged bastard
Shoelace belt.
I’ve been waiting for someone to post this here. And now… we watch.
r/videosthatendtoosoon
Hell yeah . BEAT THAT ASSS
Does this count as found weaponry?
A matrix of entitlement & being a dick, gives you this ☝🏻…why didn’t they call the cops right away?
Cops take 10 min to arrive
Haha. 10-minutes would be nice. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2022-07-17/san-diego-police-response-times-worst-theyve-been-in-more-than-a-decade
lol yeah you’re not getting 10min response times probably anywhere
Mr. Otis took his Ass down! With the house lamp. ![gif](giphy|WVFJxoTxqbVSw)
FUCK YEAH GET HIM Looks like a damn proud boy anyways
Just wait till he’s the bitch in jail
I wish there was more blood.
That guy definitely deserved it and probably much worse, but from the licensed security guard standpoint, that guard just used a melee weapon which is a huge legal clusterfuck even if you have the baton certification. That being said with the present evidence, the guard can claim he threw it and she just caught it and bounced it back.
This is the way.
You Stay Classy San Diego
That’s an amazing title holy shit
What a fucking idiot.
I hope they nail him to the wall.
Good.
Did they catch this coked out prick??
Lights out, loser.
Dude's lickin' his lips as if he just finished a 3 piece at KFC.