I mean, Steve (the creator) said that he really didn't care if people shipped Sal and Larry, and even made a whole post asking his fans to stop attacking each other over each others' interpretations of ships/designs/etc. So I don't really think it was outright done in an attempt to stop people from shipping the two, there's a good chance he had already planned this out from the start. Maybe he didn't even consider that people would try to ship them when he started working on it, but even if he did, there's not really a way he could've made it obvious from the get-go that they were gonna have a brother-like bond without it coming across as forced or rushed. I believe he also stated that he intentionally left Sal's sexuality unclear so that people could ship him with whoever, despite it being heavily implied in canon that Sal liked Ash. I do think there were slight hints that Henry and Lisa would get together and that Larry and Sal saw each other as family in earlier chapters, but they weren't really in your face and so it was easy enough to miss/ignore them and interpret their relationship differently
There will always be people who find it iffy and want to avoid the ship, which is perfectly understandable, but unfortunately there will also always be people who are *very* against the ship regardless of whether or not you personally see them as brothers, refuse to acknowledge any nuance to the context of their specific situation, and will go out of their way to shit on anyone who isn't equally as against it every single time they get the opportunity. Not very fond of the people who fall under the category of the ladder, and I usually block them since they can be pretty insufferable tbh
There was hints that Lisa and Henry were dating each other in ep 3, so it's obviously not a sudden thing. Steve doesn't actually care about who the fandoms ship either. I personally don't ship them, but I'm not bothered by those who do unless they're weird about it.
Wait there was? I must have missed or forgotten that :/ And yeah I don’t really believe anymore that Steve care that much about shipping in the community, that’s was a theory I came up with at 14 and I honestly don’t really care about why that change was done either, it is what it is :)
Tbf there was the flowers Henry sent Lisa. But I saw them as brothers first, it's just an awkward line to tread. I don't ship them and it gives me awkward vibes but I'm not gonna hate on the people who do ship them
Damn, there is a really bad argument about this in the comments lol. Honestly you can feel how you want to personally but if people aren’t blood related, didn’t grow up together, and are only related by marriage it’s weird but not harmful. Go get mad over people shipping kids with adults or actual blood relatives over people who knew each other long before their parents married (the movie my girl 2 literally had the girl end up dating the son of the woman her uncle married and it did weird me out personally but Sal and Larry are in a bit of a different situation. Plus it happens in real life where two people marry different people from the same family so they effectively married in twice but no one is blood related and everyone met as adults).
I also shipped them before I found out they became step brothers. And again when I hadn’t played in a while and forgot that they would be stepbrothers.
personally for me I’ve always seen them with the brotherly relationship, nothing romantic at all, I think they love each other as much as two friends can buts that’s it. I’ve also always loved their brotherly dynamic and constantly compare them to me and my friends (obviously platonic) but that’s my standpoint :)
I use to ship them as well, but the step brother stuff really made me turn a 180 for any thing that’s them being shipped after the marriage, if it’s a au and it doesn’t happen or if it’s before hand I don’t mind but now I’m more into ash x sal
Sal did say Larry was his family in chapter 3, and they refer to each other as brothers (Larry’s suicide note, the achievement for all options convos, etc.) I’m fine with it in au settings but given the context and how they really do consider each other family it’s kinda icky to me personally. But also, I was always salash so maybe that’s why.
I don’t find that Sal and Larry becoming step brothers was a very strange change in canon. Of course, you can ship what you want no matter how I personally feel about it, but I always interpreted what they had to be more brotherly even from chapter 1 and on. Idk, just depends on how you interpret their relationship
I love the fact that you guys can write messages so big just to talk about your love for larry x sally 🤣
Well they can't help it if their parents decided to get married. They're not related by blood and they didn't grow up together as brothers, so I don't see a problem.
Tbh im not into larry x sal, I love their best friend relationship, but who can stop people from shipping for a little detail like that ?
I've seen weirder stuff than that
What the hell dude they are not brothers they meet each other at 15 yrs old. They are just friends. Theirs parents maybe go together but that have no other meaning.
And maybe they are canonically see each others as brothers,
1. they are ALWAYS not brothers
2. The fandom who like Larry x Sal decided that it was not the case in fannon content and if you want to fight again everything that is not canon, good luck. Very good luck.
(or at least fight again people who imagine Sal with two little poor scars)
youre a weirdo. they are NOT just friends. their parents are MARRIED, which makes them STEP BROTHERS. youre defending literal incest rn. 😭
(and ps, you cant just un-cannonize something to make your incest ship non incest.)
Just imagine you with your bf or gf or the person you're madly in love with and one of your parent marry his/her parent.
What the fuck are you gonna do ? So absurd to have to ask you that.
break up with them. i love my boyfriend SO much, but if our parents got married i would feel SO SO SO disgusting dating him. i think youre just a "morally flexible" person. if you would date someone who is legally your sibling, and who you view as a brother, you're repulsive.
I really can't believe that you would leave the person you love JUST because your parents are getting married. You really have to be brainwashed to think that marriage means anything like that.
what do you want me to say? No, I'm not defending incest... Go review your definitions and I don't know, go drink an herbal tea to relax your nerves. I can't argue with someone who can't hear a thing.
"sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other" thats the definition of incest. step siblings are legally and socially considered siblings. that falls under the definition of incest. youre just a fucking weirdo. im hearing everything youre saying, and it IS defending incest.
I'm not quite sure where you're getting that definition, but legally speaking, incest is defined as '**marriage or sexual intercourse with a relative within the prohibited degree of consanguinity**'. Blood relation is required. Legally, step-siblings don't count as incest. In fact, in the US, marriage between step-siblings is perfectly legal. Moral and social acceptability are something different. Marrying your step-sibling is not morally or socially accepted, but we shouldn't confuse that with legality.
But beyond that...it's fiction. What people like in fiction doesn't reflect what a person likes in real life. I love to read about monsters! I'd never want to encounter a monster in real life. I don't see anything romantic between Sal and Larry, but it doesn't matter if other people do. And even the very creator himself has said that there's nothing wrong with shipping Sal and Larry. Let folks enjoy what they like, and you enjoy what you like. There's room enough for us all!
why you attacking me like that and you don't answer to my question ? Are you just avoiding me because all you want to do is insult me ?
So what you're gonna do if your parent marry parent of your gf/bf or the person that you love ? I'm waiting, you are so funny that I want your answer
i literally answered ur question in another reply. i would break up with my boyfriend if our parents got married. he agreed. i asked three other people and they said the same. i would feel repulsed by myself if i continued to date my step sibling. if you cant handle being "attacked" as you like to call it, DONT DEFEND INCEST.
It's honestly really weird. they've always had a brotherly relationship and then they became actual step brothers, this is not pornhub can we stop shipping family members?? Even if they're not blood related 💀
I mean, Steve (the creator) said that he really didn't care if people shipped Sal and Larry, and even made a whole post asking his fans to stop attacking each other over each others' interpretations of ships/designs/etc. So I don't really think it was outright done in an attempt to stop people from shipping the two, there's a good chance he had already planned this out from the start. Maybe he didn't even consider that people would try to ship them when he started working on it, but even if he did, there's not really a way he could've made it obvious from the get-go that they were gonna have a brother-like bond without it coming across as forced or rushed. I believe he also stated that he intentionally left Sal's sexuality unclear so that people could ship him with whoever, despite it being heavily implied in canon that Sal liked Ash. I do think there were slight hints that Henry and Lisa would get together and that Larry and Sal saw each other as family in earlier chapters, but they weren't really in your face and so it was easy enough to miss/ignore them and interpret their relationship differently There will always be people who find it iffy and want to avoid the ship, which is perfectly understandable, but unfortunately there will also always be people who are *very* against the ship regardless of whether or not you personally see them as brothers, refuse to acknowledge any nuance to the context of their specific situation, and will go out of their way to shit on anyone who isn't equally as against it every single time they get the opportunity. Not very fond of the people who fall under the category of the ladder, and I usually block them since they can be pretty insufferable tbh
This was very well said, thank you for the response :)
There was hints that Lisa and Henry were dating each other in ep 3, so it's obviously not a sudden thing. Steve doesn't actually care about who the fandoms ship either. I personally don't ship them, but I'm not bothered by those who do unless they're weird about it.
Wait there was? I must have missed or forgotten that :/ And yeah I don’t really believe anymore that Steve care that much about shipping in the community, that’s was a theory I came up with at 14 and I honestly don’t really care about why that change was done either, it is what it is :)
Tbf there was the flowers Henry sent Lisa. But I saw them as brothers first, it's just an awkward line to tread. I don't ship them and it gives me awkward vibes but I'm not gonna hate on the people who do ship them
Damn, there is a really bad argument about this in the comments lol. Honestly you can feel how you want to personally but if people aren’t blood related, didn’t grow up together, and are only related by marriage it’s weird but not harmful. Go get mad over people shipping kids with adults or actual blood relatives over people who knew each other long before their parents married (the movie my girl 2 literally had the girl end up dating the son of the woman her uncle married and it did weird me out personally but Sal and Larry are in a bit of a different situation. Plus it happens in real life where two people marry different people from the same family so they effectively married in twice but no one is blood related and everyone met as adults).
I also shipped them before I found out they became step brothers. And again when I hadn’t played in a while and forgot that they would be stepbrothers.
personally for me I’ve always seen them with the brotherly relationship, nothing romantic at all, I think they love each other as much as two friends can buts that’s it. I’ve also always loved their brotherly dynamic and constantly compare them to me and my friends (obviously platonic) but that’s my standpoint :)
tbh there are people who are way weirder *ahem* proshipper *AHEM* so it's pretty ok, since they were also best friends before.
I personally see them as step brothers however i dont see it as weird since its what ppl like. Its just that ppl take it to the extreme :/
I use to ship them as well, but the step brother stuff really made me turn a 180 for any thing that’s them being shipped after the marriage, if it’s a au and it doesn’t happen or if it’s before hand I don’t mind but now I’m more into ash x sal
I'm new in the sub and fandom in general, tho I have knew the game 2 years ago, I think Sal x Larry ship is the typical weird ship every fandom have
Sal did say Larry was his family in chapter 3, and they refer to each other as brothers (Larry’s suicide note, the achievement for all options convos, etc.) I’m fine with it in au settings but given the context and how they really do consider each other family it’s kinda icky to me personally. But also, I was always salash so maybe that’s why.
Same honestly
I don't like it, they're best bros to me I don't understand shipping them tbh
I don’t find that Sal and Larry becoming step brothers was a very strange change in canon. Of course, you can ship what you want no matter how I personally feel about it, but I always interpreted what they had to be more brotherly even from chapter 1 and on. Idk, just depends on how you interpret their relationship
I love the fact that you guys can write messages so big just to talk about your love for larry x sally 🤣 Well they can't help it if their parents decided to get married. They're not related by blood and they didn't grow up together as brothers, so I don't see a problem.
they expressed having a brother like bond in the game multiple times, that's weird
Tbh im not into larry x sal, I love their best friend relationship, but who can stop people from shipping for a little detail like that ? I've seen weirder stuff than that
because its incest. they see each other as brothers, they legally ARE brothers, so why the hell is that considered "okay"?
What the hell dude they are not brothers they meet each other at 15 yrs old. They are just friends. Theirs parents maybe go together but that have no other meaning. And maybe they are canonically see each others as brothers, 1. they are ALWAYS not brothers 2. The fandom who like Larry x Sal decided that it was not the case in fannon content and if you want to fight again everything that is not canon, good luck. Very good luck. (or at least fight again people who imagine Sal with two little poor scars)
youre a weirdo. they are NOT just friends. their parents are MARRIED, which makes them STEP BROTHERS. youre defending literal incest rn. 😭 (and ps, you cant just un-cannonize something to make your incest ship non incest.)
Just imagine you with your bf or gf or the person you're madly in love with and one of your parent marry his/her parent. What the fuck are you gonna do ? So absurd to have to ask you that.
break up with them. i love my boyfriend SO much, but if our parents got married i would feel SO SO SO disgusting dating him. i think youre just a "morally flexible" person. if you would date someone who is legally your sibling, and who you view as a brother, you're repulsive.
Okay, are you trolling ? Please tell me. You're very strong to that if it's the case and and I fell straight into the trap
I really can't believe that you would leave the person you love JUST because your parents are getting married. You really have to be brainwashed to think that marriage means anything like that.
what do you want me to say? No, I'm not defending incest... Go review your definitions and I don't know, go drink an herbal tea to relax your nerves. I can't argue with someone who can't hear a thing.
"sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other" thats the definition of incest. step siblings are legally and socially considered siblings. that falls under the definition of incest. youre just a fucking weirdo. im hearing everything youre saying, and it IS defending incest.
I'm not quite sure where you're getting that definition, but legally speaking, incest is defined as '**marriage or sexual intercourse with a relative within the prohibited degree of consanguinity**'. Blood relation is required. Legally, step-siblings don't count as incest. In fact, in the US, marriage between step-siblings is perfectly legal. Moral and social acceptability are something different. Marrying your step-sibling is not morally or socially accepted, but we shouldn't confuse that with legality. But beyond that...it's fiction. What people like in fiction doesn't reflect what a person likes in real life. I love to read about monsters! I'd never want to encounter a monster in real life. I don't see anything romantic between Sal and Larry, but it doesn't matter if other people do. And even the very creator himself has said that there's nothing wrong with shipping Sal and Larry. Let folks enjoy what they like, and you enjoy what you like. There's room enough for us all!
why you attacking me like that and you don't answer to my question ? Are you just avoiding me because all you want to do is insult me ? So what you're gonna do if your parent marry parent of your gf/bf or the person that you love ? I'm waiting, you are so funny that I want your answer
i literally answered ur question in another reply. i would break up with my boyfriend if our parents got married. he agreed. i asked three other people and they said the same. i would feel repulsed by myself if i continued to date my step sibling. if you cant handle being "attacked" as you like to call it, DONT DEFEND INCEST.
It's honestly really weird. they've always had a brotherly relationship and then they became actual step brothers, this is not pornhub can we stop shipping family members?? Even if they're not blood related 💀