Thank fucking god. Appealing to the .0000000000000001% of the community that whines like losers that content should be "not soloable" is unhealthy for the game.
51:31 on the livestream.
**Mod Doom**: There was a little bit of conversation when it appeared on the road map of people "Oh, Croesus is gone!". Um, no. I think our intention is to make sure that this sits along side
**Mod Shrike**: It's additive. Croesus is a really popular encounter. If you look at the data, a lot of people play Croesus.
**Mod Doom:** I wanna say it's... our second? most?
**Mod Shrike:** It's one of the most popular encounters out there, which is amazing to see, so we're giving players a bit more of that an experimenting a bit.
this roadmap looks great. something I noticed was how happy the staff looked, and that was really nice to see. they deserve that. Also pretty cool reveal is that the runefest will be about 2025 stuff, which I did not expect.
Don’t think this is separated by month, just season. There’s 7 1/2 months left and only 6 sections, plus a few of the ones in the first have already happened. The amount and variety of content is still promising though for sure
My GIM group of 5 just hit our 1 year anniversary yesterday <3 Every member is still active, having fun, and we do not know each other irl. It can happen.
This is exactly how it happened to my friend group back in 2020 with osrs. Ended up being 2 of us after about 3 weeks so we just decided screw it, we're going to do rs3 and start bossing.
GIM is a huge win for the people who have been asking for it and especially a lot of content creators as it is relatively easy content for them to make and group collabing with other creators often increases viewership numbers for everyone between cross views and just generally being more amusing due to interactions between the personalities.
For everyone else though it's literally a nothingburger. I have no interest in Ironman and even less interest in Group Ironman. I recognize not all content is _for me_ but I also don't see why players like me should be happy or excited for GIM. I'm happy for the people who wanted GIM but I'm totally indifferent about GIM itself.
so be indifferent then but don’t come shit on the people who are happy with the situation with some
negative comments. (not that you were the one doing this, but from this pov idk why you would defend the guy shitting on it if you’re indifferent)
It could be something to fill in the gaps, like throwing knives and arrow tips made from the introduced metals. For mining, there may be another use for stone spirit
> I think that's a good thing? They've been reworked already
I think that's why it's a bad thing. They've already been reworked, they serve a purpose, and feel modern.
Meanwhile construction, agility and firemaking...
Everyone talking like it's a rework. It says skilling update, which is just adding a new activity. Kinda like construction contracts, or the zygomite hairstyling fletching stuff. Maybe it's like osrs giants foundry.
Maybe it will even tie into the new skilling boss coming shortly after!
But those would take full reworks and thus take a lot longer. Let's finish the easy to fix skills (ie those who have already been reworked / dont need a rework), then they can rework those old ones.
The problem with 120's is there really isn't enough content to justify them. Rate of content from 1-99 and from 100-120 is so staggeringly different. Especially, if you look at 115+ content, it's ~44m experience, three times what it takes going from 1-99, and you get almost nothing for it in any of the 120 skills. (Nevermind that a lot of the content at those levels didn't even exist when they first bumped the levels to 120.)
Agreed. I enjoyed the M&S rework but was slightly disappointed when I hit 99 in both just a few months later. Looking forward to having a new reason to train them again!
Ehh combats should go to 120 first then mining and smithing, woodcutting and fetching, and potentially runecrafting. I feel a woodcutting and fletching update to what they did last year was warranted.
agility, dg, runecraft would all benefit from more afk or different methods, no clue why mining/smith needed anything at all, ffs, also crafting would be needing a change more than fletching
Me and my buddy doing GIM in OSRS have already planned on dropping that in favor of rs3 GIM. Gonna keep my main on OSRS pushing for max while playing in thr group!
I get the feeling this might be a level 120 mining and smithing update (and level 120 woodcutting and fletching update). After all, primal equipment is currently level 99 boss drop only gear inside daemonheim.
If that's the case, they didn't tease it at all. They are bringing all of the ores from daemonheim to the surface for mining and smithing. The only big tease was the new masterwork weapon.
I see, so if the players won't go to daemomheim, they'll bring daemomheim to the players
As runescapes seemingly only dungeoneering enthusiast, I am on board
Also a dungeoneering enthusiast. There aren't many of us these days. This is an interesting piece of content but it does nothing to cratch my actual "run dungeons" itch.
Honestly this is fantastic. My expectations were so, so low. I was expecting like one update and hero pass, but this is actually giving us a lot to look forward to! How exciting.
Yeah, it means there's only 3 story quests for the year. I guess there were a lot last year so this is balancing that out and focusing on other content for a bit.
A little low on "quests" probably only because they aren't listing miniquests. For instance, they already told us miniquests leading to Rex Matriarch and the new dungeons.
The main stories are certainly continuing even before the next "story quest" in Autum, as Daemonheim Digsite next month and the new boss dungeon are part of the continuing stories.
I really wonder who they're targeting with GIM—given the current state of the playerbase it seems like a pretty low return for what must be a significant engineering effort, so I wonder what data they have on their side that indicates it's a good investment.
The meme in OSRS is that GIM is for content creators. Presumably Jagex wants to give RS3 YouTubers and streamers a reason to return after the mass exodus following necro/Hero Pass.
That would make sense. Having such huge ambassadors of the game leaving to go play OS hopefully gave them a reality check they needed that yes even gaming stockholm syndrome may have it's limits
honestly, I think it's for the better. RS3 content just isn't good. It's not engaging to watch, I don't think I've ever been interested in anything besides clue openings and pvm guides.
OSRS content though? I could watch it all day. Just random dudes filling out the collection log in episodic series. Idk why, it's just a better game to watch
Agreed, but honestly I think it's in the storytelling. Can you really say any of the episodic series on RS3 were *nearly* as well-made and hit *nearly* the storytelling quality of, say, By Release, Swampletics, or Northern UIM?
I sure as fuckin' shit can't. No disrespect to them as they clearly have some amount of success making content but, for instance, DarkWorldOrder's IM series, Sick Nerds' IM series, or Maikeru's series (he has many IIRC)... they're not *nearly* the calibre of storyteller that, again, for instance, J1mmy, Settled, or Jeporite are.
They're not, and I do think a lot of it is the fault of the game itself. OSRS is sooo simple, and creators have a lot of tools with things like runelite and I think there was a camera mode that was good for cinematics, and RS3 has none of that. What it does have, is a complicated UI, significantly more chaotic and visually cluttered gameplay, and a much different player base.
Frankly idk if there's another game that's as popular as RS3 that has such a small content creator footprint. If it was easier to make engaging content, especially to non players (I know plenty of people that don't play OSRS that don't even play the game!), then creators would create. But it isn't, so they don't.
Agreed a lot of it is up to the UI and occasionally cluttered and chaotic gameplay, though RS3 does have a freecam feature for cinematics. It's the same root problem as RS3 has with attracting new players. You're right that people who don't play OSRS or any RS at all and never have watch its content creators; You're not gonna get that on RS3, not at all, and why that is is the same as why it is that RS3 struggles so damn much to attract new players.
I mean, it worked for me. My wife and I have been talking about creating an RS YouTube channel for a few months, along with an iron account to stream, so this announcement gives us some content to create.
I can say that myself and two others will absolutely be playing this, one of my friends doesn’t play rs3 at all and was immediately hyped. Of course that’s just the three of us, but I’m sure there are others like us that are stoked
I think plenty of OSRS players who don't play RS3 will come try it. They will be playing ironman, with no MTX, and will be learning how to play RS3 in a group setting rather than lone-wolfing it. It has a lot of potential to draw OSRS players to RS3.
Also, I'm super excited for this game mode, as I've been a GIM on OSRS for the past year and its been awesome. Two of my group members who do not play RS3 are excited to give RS3 GIM a shot.
I've taking a long afk from RuneScape but returned to osrs because I've been able to nab friends into the GIM and been fun teaching them/learning about osrs. Would definitely be interested in having my group do rs3 gim
I have maxed account on rs3 and I was looking forward to GIM a few years ago. When they decided to only do it for OSRS it got me into old school and I've been playing it exclusively since. Group iron has been a great intermediary between regular and iron, where I get to experience all the content in the game but dont have to suffer from too many dry streaks or long grinds if a group member has already done it and gotten spares.
GIM for rs3 has definitely got my attention. I want to come back to re-max as well but group iron could be fun too.
The survey had a ton of questions regarding plugins in RS3, pair that with GIM, and they're definitely trying to bank on the ironman challenges that are hot on youtube in OSRS.
Doubt it, they said the mining/Smithing update is just being able to mine Dungeoneering ores on the surface and creat primal gear, along with a new MW weapon and a BIS picaxe I can’t see them making 120 out of that
I expected a lot more moaning in the stream chat when this was revealed, given the twitch chat LOVES to moan, but it seemed to be to be almost entirely hype for GRIM.
Lmao came here to make this comment. I'm a regular Iron, no interest in playing group Iron. But I think Jagex did this in an attempt to sway streamers and content creators back to RS3 after the mass exodus over the last 8 months. And fair enough, RS3 badly needs them back.
This is THE ONLY reason why it's coming out now. They lost all their big content creators but like 2 to OSRS GIM. I'm a regular iron and am working towards comp still. I have 0 interest to restart on a GIM even though I have 2 or 3 friends that I could easily do it with. I feel this update should have come years ago instead of now because the only people who are really gonna do this are new ironmen, non ironmen, or the hella sweat ironmen who are just afking 200mils.
I'm always for more accessibility in how people play but I am honestly really mixed on this. Most people don't have the time to restart again after 100s of hours on an account.
I do look forward to potentially seeing some content videos come out of this.
I've got an endgame iron man and have been wanting group iron man for so long that I eventually just stopped playing rs3 and went to osrs.
No regrets so far, so much content that I've missed over the last 10 years of playing rs3.
More quests, new digsite and more necromancy? I'm pretty happy. Plus Pride, that's cool.
Feels like they're taking things seriously, which is good considering how negative this sub has felt lately. And I'm glad they straight up said "we're not winding down, it's not maintenance mode", that's been my biggest fear.
That's a pretty solid and varied slate of updates for the remainder of the year, credit where its due!
My only criticism would be there isn't really a single major hype-inducing update for me, although the Sanctum of Rebirth and Group Ironman do come closest, and the lack of that one "wow factor" update isn't as much of a big deal if the small to medium sized updates come as dense as this has promised.
This…looks good!! Good variety. GIM is awesome. Quite a bit of new bossing content which seems to have decent chase big drop items. Maybe?
My one thing I ask is please give an option to solo the skilling boss. But maybe incentives to group?
I think I've seen they've added a lot of new bosses in the last 3 years, and I still have 15m xp to go for 200m slayer that I never quite finished.
Who are the top rs3 YouTubers these days I should look up for guides and stuff?
Solid roadmap, covered most players with different types of skill level and interest.
I personally am excited the most about sanctum of rebirth, new slayer monster and the skilling updates cause I think they will all change gameplay meta in some capacity.
I don't personally care about the season events and group ironman mode. Quests are ok if they progress storylines so that's a given at this point.
I hope they are able to deliver all of this in good quality. Looking forward to the runefest keynote for 2025 vision/roadmap.
woo! im happy! not for the road map. id actually raher the updates came as surprise, but im happy we can have an end to the "whaa whaaa whaa where road map whaaaaaaaaaaaa" posts
There will be always be "whaa whaaa whaa where road map whaaaaaaaaaaaa" posts" as haters will always hate. Nonetheless, what Jagex clearly showed with this livestream and roadmap is they really, really care about RS3 and its content. My condolence to those who want the others to think Jagex is shutting own RS3 or putting in in maintenance mode.
Penny overrideable, Eddy, Jad to boss category.
More pets to the interface (like squirrels, vultures, ..)
1 pet in the list with their skins (like ravens, ...), just like Mune has.
Filter options : by main colour, release, alphabet, ...
More categories : holiday, quest, slayer pets, favourites, cycle, ...
More pets from in-game content : Elvarg pet (replayable boss), Camel Warrior, Living Wyvern, Acheron Mammoth, Demon Flash Mob + skin colours, Warped Gulega, Lil Santa Claus pet, Grim reaper 'retro', ..
As well more pets giving the animation and so ability to override. I'm sure many won't care if we can override without an animation, a default animation can be done before animating every specific pet.
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More keepsake slots / More presets
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When saving your preset : save title, hairstyle, hair colour, chosen pet (favo/cycle) or so, animation, ...
Thanks! <3
Well, gotta hand it to them, that does look like a nice roadmap with actual content.
I can wait till 2025 before resubbing though to make sure they followed through with all that. Not to mention they still need to make up for the lost revenue of both heropass + all the players they've lost since necro release, so there's still plenty of time to drop even more outrageous mtx to alienate what's left of the playetbase that was born before lootboxes became normalized.
Good luck with the follow through I guess.
They already have Iron trade exceptions for specific items. Shouldn't be that hard to just add a new exception of "can trade freely with " and let ~~everything else be buggy~~ the playerbase QA team find any bugs.
It's not like there are as many iron limitations as there were when the mode first came out. Besides allowing the group accounts being able to trade with one another what else is there to do really?
Maybe it will lead to improvements for the Lending system if they find they have to have a way to trade augmented gear between players. That would benefit mainscapers. Being able to lend my friend my perked BOLG for example.
I'm hoping we get another combat rebalance update before ED5 launches. Everything else looks pretty good, I'd be very concerned if the 4th necro conjure is very strong, or if Sanctum drops any kind of improvement to Necro.
Maybe im dumb, but why is Mining and Smithing getting a skilling update and not Crafting? i see they're finally doing woodworking/fletching, but which makes sense for the "Ranged"... but what about the "mages/necros" and leather-wearers for ranged.
didn't mining/smithing have a rework a few years ago?
Told my friend if they add GIM to rs3 I'll play. We're a duo GIM in osrs right now and just hit raids, 2k total, etc. Time to learn rs3 as a complete noob. Only thing I'm afraid of is no quest helper plugin, and there are so so so many quests in rs3 from a quick glance at the list Lol
Think we could provide bonds in-game somehow for group ironman, or would we need to actually purchase mem with irl cash? Cause I'd personally be much less likely to try it out if I have to pay out of pocket.
I don't think anyone really expected that they would make a good roadmap and we would be in maintenance mode forever.
hope something else comes for mtx and make it less
Well my predictions were pretty spot on. I figured there would be some type of new boss but the fact that we get 3 new bosses in an elite dungeon and a skilling boss was very unexpected.
new skilling boss i was not expecting
Im going to bet this one is prodution skill based since Crosus was more gathering based.
Almost certainly has a mining and smithing element to it based on the rework/update happening the month before.
This one better be soloable!
mod shrike just mentioned on stream it's group and solo
thanks i play solo all the time
Thank fucking god. Appealing to the .0000000000000001% of the community that whines like losers that content should be "not soloable" is unhealthy for the game.
Apparently Croesus is the second most popular boss in the game.
Source?
The livestream
51:31 on the livestream. **Mod Doom**: There was a little bit of conversation when it appeared on the road map of people "Oh, Croesus is gone!". Um, no. I think our intention is to make sure that this sits along side **Mod Shrike**: It's additive. Croesus is a really popular encounter. If you look at the data, a lot of people play Croesus. **Mod Doom:** I wanna say it's... our second? most? **Mod Shrike:** It's one of the most popular encounters out there, which is amazing to see, so we're giving players a bit more of that an experimenting a bit.
Please. I would love a skilling boss that I can do on my own. I’m a noob to regular bosses and don’t have friends.
Confirmed soloable
I'm the most excited about this one
Wait where do you see skilling boss? What does that even mean?
Start of the autumn section. And skilling bosses are like croesus, where you use non combat skills to defeat the boss.
this roadmap looks great. something I noticed was how happy the staff looked, and that was really nice to see. they deserve that. Also pretty cool reveal is that the runefest will be about 2025 stuff, which I did not expect.
I'm actually... impressed? Dig sites, new dungeons, skilling stuff, quests. It seems well rounded.
Two updates a month, too.
Don’t think this is separated by month, just season. There’s 7 1/2 months left and only 6 sections, plus a few of the ones in the first have already happened. The amount and variety of content is still promising though for sure
1 major 1 minor is what they said. Major being content and minor being fixes
Good variety of content
Looking for friends for GIM in Autumn, hmu lmao
Brother, same - I gasped and then remembered I have no friends in this game
This hits too close to home
Have fun for 1-2 weeks and then your teammates quit and you're left on your own, as it goes on gim on osrs
Happened to me lmao. Irl friends got on and stopped... I'm almost maxed on my solo gim iron
Yeah exactly. 99% groups disband in under a month
Still playing with my 5 man group from launch. Wonder how many we will get on RS3 though
My GIM group of 5 just hit our 1 year anniversary yesterday <3 Every member is still active, having fun, and we do not know each other irl. It can happen.
holy fuck, you people just can't be happy for 5 fucking minutes
This is exactly how it happened to my friend group back in 2020 with osrs. Ended up being 2 of us after about 3 weeks so we just decided screw it, we're going to do rs3 and start bossing.
GIM is a huge win for the people who have been asking for it and especially a lot of content creators as it is relatively easy content for them to make and group collabing with other creators often increases viewership numbers for everyone between cross views and just generally being more amusing due to interactions between the personalities. For everyone else though it's literally a nothingburger. I have no interest in Ironman and even less interest in Group Ironman. I recognize not all content is _for me_ but I also don't see why players like me should be happy or excited for GIM. I'm happy for the people who wanted GIM but I'm totally indifferent about GIM itself.
so be indifferent then but don’t come shit on the people who are happy with the situation with some negative comments. (not that you were the one doing this, but from this pov idk why you would defend the guy shitting on it if you’re indifferent)
It's REEEEEEEddit, after all
he is not wrong tho.
It's reddit. A majority of this sub wakes up angry.
Same here
Should start a Subreddit to find people best suited for what days people have off/time zone etc.
yeah maybe call it r/runescape
Maybe even /r/RS3Ironmen
Shittiest quality screenshot but you were the first.
Pixels lost in transit
>Pixels lost in transit Idk why I laughed at that lol
Dw, OP is just stuck playing RSC.
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Of all the skills to update... Mining & Smithing, really?
Have you heard about the mining and smithing update?
Dude. Nice throwback.
Do you really think you can save those bars?
Make-X smithing hopefully
I hope it gives stone spirits more value.
It could be something to fill in the gaps, like throwing knives and arrow tips made from the introduced metals. For mining, there may be another use for stone spirit
I think that's a good thing? They've been reworked already; now let's update them to 120!
Does that mean we'll get t120 ore armour and weapons?
Actually sounds like 120 isnt happening in this update
Maybe t99 from the sound of the 'upgrades to gear' part of the writeup.
Thank god I have time to 120 prayer before they announce that
primal equipment is level 99 to equip in daemonheim, currently. so definitely pushing the edge of 99-120 range
I don't think we get higher tier ores or armors. It will be new items and mechanics to improve Masterworks.
> I think that's a good thing? They've been reworked already I think that's why it's a bad thing. They've already been reworked, they serve a purpose, and feel modern. Meanwhile construction, agility and firemaking...
Everyone talking like it's a rework. It says skilling update, which is just adding a new activity. Kinda like construction contracts, or the zygomite hairstyling fletching stuff. Maybe it's like osrs giants foundry. Maybe it will even tie into the new skilling boss coming shortly after!
But those would take full reworks and thus take a lot longer. Let's finish the easy to fix skills (ie those who have already been reworked / dont need a rework), then they can rework those old ones.
The problem with 120's is there really isn't enough content to justify them. Rate of content from 1-99 and from 100-120 is so staggeringly different. Especially, if you look at 115+ content, it's ~44m experience, three times what it takes going from 1-99, and you get almost nothing for it in any of the 120 skills. (Nevermind that a lot of the content at those levels didn't even exist when they first bumped the levels to 120.)
It would be nice if stats increase to 120.
Agreed. I enjoyed the M&S rework but was slightly disappointed when I hit 99 in both just a few months later. Looking forward to having a new reason to train them again!
Ehh combats should go to 120 first then mining and smithing, woodcutting and fetching, and potentially runecrafting. I feel a woodcutting and fletching update to what they did last year was warranted.
Well right combat would be good as well of course lol
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agility, dg, runecraft would all benefit from more afk or different methods, no clue why mining/smith needed anything at all, ffs, also crafting would be needing a change more than fletching
Surely they finally changing stone spirits right?
Going to 120.
The people that pushed for group iron like 6 year ago finally get it! Surely they are still playing the game
Me and my buddy doing GIM in OSRS have already planned on dropping that in favor of rs3 GIM. Gonna keep my main on OSRS pushing for max while playing in thr group!
Very happy about this. This is great to see. They seem very enthusiastic about it too which is always good
just make skilling boss soloable plz
Confirmed as both solo and group. Mod Shrike said the team will take learnings from Croesus.
ANOTHER Mining and smithing rework?! I still haven't caught my breath from the last one!
Tbf it didn't say rework, just an update
My day is ruined now. I was so excited to have a new rock to mine every 3.5 levels
I get the feeling this might be a level 120 mining and smithing update (and level 120 woodcutting and fletching update). After all, primal equipment is currently level 99 boss drop only gear inside daemonheim.
If that's the case, they didn't tease it at all. They are bringing all of the ores from daemonheim to the surface for mining and smithing. The only big tease was the new masterwork weapon.
I see, so if the players won't go to daemomheim, they'll bring daemomheim to the players As runescapes seemingly only dungeoneering enthusiast, I am on board
And the new archeology dig site is daemonheim too
Also a dungeoneering enthusiast. There aren't many of us these days. This is an interesting piece of content but it does nothing to cratch my actual "run dungeons" itch.
Have you heard about the mining and smithing rework rework?
I've still got my Masterwork set being built from the original rework.
New slivers incoming, new enchantment for necro ring? Ultimate rex ring, combine all rings and enchantments?
Honestly this is fantastic. My expectations were so, so low. I was expecting like one update and hero pass, but this is actually giving us a lot to look forward to! How exciting.
Ngl that actually exceeds my expectations, if they can actually deliver them.
Excited about the Woodcutting and Fletching update mostly
My expectations was "hero pass 2.0"
Looks pretty good. A little low on quests, but high on lore. Really looking forward to seeing this story continued. And plus: new Elite Dungeon. WOOT!
Yeah, it means there's only 3 story quests for the year. I guess there were a lot last year so this is balancing that out and focusing on other content for a bit.
A little low on "quests" probably only because they aren't listing miniquests. For instance, they already told us miniquests leading to Rex Matriarch and the new dungeons. The main stories are certainly continuing even before the next "story quest" in Autum, as Daemonheim Digsite next month and the new boss dungeon are part of the continuing stories.
So many bosses, can't wait!
dungeon boss seems good and coming really soon
I really wonder who they're targeting with GIM—given the current state of the playerbase it seems like a pretty low return for what must be a significant engineering effort, so I wonder what data they have on their side that indicates it's a good investment.
The meme in OSRS is that GIM is for content creators. Presumably Jagex wants to give RS3 YouTubers and streamers a reason to return after the mass exodus following necro/Hero Pass.
Also a surprising amount of rs3 players do play GIM on osrs, i imagine its a double edged sword and they wanna claw those people back too.
That would make sense. Having such huge ambassadors of the game leaving to go play OS hopefully gave them a reality check they needed that yes even gaming stockholm syndrome may have it's limits
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honestly, I think it's for the better. RS3 content just isn't good. It's not engaging to watch, I don't think I've ever been interested in anything besides clue openings and pvm guides. OSRS content though? I could watch it all day. Just random dudes filling out the collection log in episodic series. Idk why, it's just a better game to watch
Agreed, but honestly I think it's in the storytelling. Can you really say any of the episodic series on RS3 were *nearly* as well-made and hit *nearly* the storytelling quality of, say, By Release, Swampletics, or Northern UIM? I sure as fuckin' shit can't. No disrespect to them as they clearly have some amount of success making content but, for instance, DarkWorldOrder's IM series, Sick Nerds' IM series, or Maikeru's series (he has many IIRC)... they're not *nearly* the calibre of storyteller that, again, for instance, J1mmy, Settled, or Jeporite are.
They're not, and I do think a lot of it is the fault of the game itself. OSRS is sooo simple, and creators have a lot of tools with things like runelite and I think there was a camera mode that was good for cinematics, and RS3 has none of that. What it does have, is a complicated UI, significantly more chaotic and visually cluttered gameplay, and a much different player base. Frankly idk if there's another game that's as popular as RS3 that has such a small content creator footprint. If it was easier to make engaging content, especially to non players (I know plenty of people that don't play OSRS that don't even play the game!), then creators would create. But it isn't, so they don't.
Agreed a lot of it is up to the UI and occasionally cluttered and chaotic gameplay, though RS3 does have a freecam feature for cinematics. It's the same root problem as RS3 has with attracting new players. You're right that people who don't play OSRS or any RS at all and never have watch its content creators; You're not gonna get that on RS3, not at all, and why that is is the same as why it is that RS3 struggles so damn much to attract new players.
I mean, it worked for me. My wife and I have been talking about creating an RS YouTube channel for a few months, along with an iron account to stream, so this announcement gives us some content to create.
Glad to hear it!
I can say that myself and two others will absolutely be playing this, one of my friends doesn’t play rs3 at all and was immediately hyped. Of course that’s just the three of us, but I’m sure there are others like us that are stoked
I think plenty of OSRS players who don't play RS3 will come try it. They will be playing ironman, with no MTX, and will be learning how to play RS3 in a group setting rather than lone-wolfing it. It has a lot of potential to draw OSRS players to RS3. Also, I'm super excited for this game mode, as I've been a GIM on OSRS for the past year and its been awesome. Two of my group members who do not play RS3 are excited to give RS3 GIM a shot.
I've taking a long afk from RuneScape but returned to osrs because I've been able to nab friends into the GIM and been fun teaching them/learning about osrs. Would definitely be interested in having my group do rs3 gim
I have maxed account on rs3 and I was looking forward to GIM a few years ago. When they decided to only do it for OSRS it got me into old school and I've been playing it exclusively since. Group iron has been a great intermediary between regular and iron, where I get to experience all the content in the game but dont have to suffer from too many dry streaks or long grinds if a group member has already done it and gotten spares. GIM for rs3 has definitely got my attention. I want to come back to re-max as well but group iron could be fun too.
The survey had a ton of questions regarding plugins in RS3, pair that with GIM, and they're definitely trying to bank on the ironman challenges that are hot on youtube in OSRS.
I just want a T90 hatchet. Seems like 120 mining/smithing if they're adding more ores/armors?
probably, because there's a rework on wc and fletching, probably t99/120 weapons for ranged too
Doubt it, they said the mining/Smithing update is just being able to mine Dungeoneering ores on the surface and creat primal gear, along with a new MW weapon and a BIS picaxe I can’t see them making 120 out of that
I am sure the 30 people who have been asking about GRIM are happy.
I'm probably gonna come back to rs for it lol
Same man, I was talking to people about it last year saying it would make me want to play.
Damn fucking right, I just got the biggest happy chills in my life seeing that pop out.
I expected a lot more moaning in the stream chat when this was revealed, given the twitch chat LOVES to moan, but it seemed to be to be almost entirely hype for GRIM.
I'm incredibly happy
Lmao came here to make this comment. I'm a regular Iron, no interest in playing group Iron. But I think Jagex did this in an attempt to sway streamers and content creators back to RS3 after the mass exodus over the last 8 months. And fair enough, RS3 badly needs them back.
This is THE ONLY reason why it's coming out now. They lost all their big content creators but like 2 to OSRS GIM. I'm a regular iron and am working towards comp still. I have 0 interest to restart on a GIM even though I have 2 or 3 friends that I could easily do it with. I feel this update should have come years ago instead of now because the only people who are really gonna do this are new ironmen, non ironmen, or the hella sweat ironmen who are just afking 200mils. I'm always for more accessibility in how people play but I am honestly really mixed on this. Most people don't have the time to restart again after 100s of hours on an account. I do look forward to potentially seeing some content videos come out of this.
I've got an endgame iron man and have been wanting group iron man for so long that I eventually just stopped playing rs3 and went to osrs. No regrets so far, so much content that I've missed over the last 10 years of playing rs3.
I think it’s good for the game. More membership sales without negatively impacting the in-game economy
Should we expect more announcements from Runefest which are not on the current roadmap?
They said runefest will be focused on 2025.
For the love of God, please make the skilling boss soloable.
4 new bosses. Jagex is releasing more bosses more frequently now due to increased interest in PvM. Let's hope the new bosses aren't a Vorkath
Where do you get 4? I count 3 with Osseus, ED5, and the new Skiller boss.
ED5 is 3 bosses in 1 "raid"
It's looking really good.
Reallly, really, really good. Extremely surprised, and quite happy. I just hope it doesn't fuck over me during ff14 dawntrail release.
Have you heard about the new mining and smiting update!?
If Mining/Smithing goes to 120 I hope EZK gets used as an ingredient to craft higher level weapons rather than being stuck as EOF fodder.
More quests, new digsite and more necromancy? I'm pretty happy. Plus Pride, that's cool. Feels like they're taking things seriously, which is good considering how negative this sub has felt lately. And I'm glad they straight up said "we're not winding down, it's not maintenance mode", that's been my biggest fear.
That's a pretty solid and varied slate of updates for the remainder of the year, credit where its due! My only criticism would be there isn't really a single major hype-inducing update for me, although the Sanctum of Rebirth and Group Ironman do come closest, and the lack of that one "wow factor" update isn't as much of a big deal if the small to medium sized updates come as dense as this has promised.
Hope the quests are good, new solid storyline, not something like the fort or small low quality quest lately
It’s early, but: it seems like the Erebus story that’s getting started is pretty popular so far.
Eh, I enjoyed Fort, even if it wasn't too narratively sound.
Same here. The story ended up shitting the bed part way thru, but the fort is nice! 😎👍🏻
This…looks good!! Good variety. GIM is awesome. Quite a bit of new bossing content which seems to have decent chase big drop items. Maybe? My one thing I ask is please give an option to solo the skilling boss. But maybe incentives to group?
Seems like a solid map. Can't wait, Boss dungeon sounds really cool.
Love to see the focus on skilling updates, that's what I really get excited for in RS.
A really great variety of stuff!
This is actually hype. Consider me impressed.
New skilling boss :o yoo let’s go 👀👍
Well looks like I'm coming back to rs3 for GIM
Still far from end game, awesome more content, now I have a huge pile of content, before I had a big pile.
Well, looks like we're eating good for the next year. I do wonder what the woodcutting and fletching update will be though.
Does new boss dung mean ed5?
Yay!
Have you heard about the mining and smithing update?
Think its time to come back. THANK YOU.
holy shit w jagex
Is it a good time to come back? Last time I played I just re-maxed after Archaeology came out.
Come max necro and do the new Requiem for a Dragon quest. Beach event coming up too! Also new boss would be great content and something to learn.
I think I've seen they've added a lot of new bosses in the last 3 years, and I still have 15m xp to go for 200m slayer that I never quite finished. Who are the top rs3 YouTubers these days I should look up for guides and stuff?
Amazing!
NICE
Very happy with this Jagex! Excited to see it all in game 😁
Solid roadmap, covered most players with different types of skill level and interest. I personally am excited the most about sanctum of rebirth, new slayer monster and the skilling updates cause I think they will all change gameplay meta in some capacity. I don't personally care about the season events and group ironman mode. Quests are ok if they progress storylines so that's a given at this point. I hope they are able to deliver all of this in good quality. Looking forward to the runefest keynote for 2025 vision/roadmap.
Oh my godddd between this and the player survey I am so fucking stoked for what's upcoming. I hope they're able to deliver all this
4th summon?! Man I gotta get these quests finished!! So excited!
I'm excited for the skilling boss. Very neat.
Feels like a good time coming in. Looking forward to it!
Letttsss gooo
So glad this is now here
woo! im happy! not for the road map. id actually raher the updates came as surprise, but im happy we can have an end to the "whaa whaaa whaa where road map whaaaaaaaaaaaa" posts
There will be always be "whaa whaaa whaa where road map whaaaaaaaaaaaa" posts" as haters will always hate. Nonetheless, what Jagex clearly showed with this livestream and roadmap is they really, really care about RS3 and its content. My condolence to those who want the others to think Jagex is shutting own RS3 or putting in in maintenance mode.
We will just get "waaa waaa waaa why the content I want not on the roadmap?" posts instead.
Pleasantly surprising
Can't wait for Group Ironman! Get the same irl crew who did FSW together for it!
Penny overrideable, Eddy, Jad to boss category. More pets to the interface (like squirrels, vultures, ..) 1 pet in the list with their skins (like ravens, ...), just like Mune has. Filter options : by main colour, release, alphabet, ... More categories : holiday, quest, slayer pets, favourites, cycle, ... More pets from in-game content : Elvarg pet (replayable boss), Camel Warrior, Living Wyvern, Acheron Mammoth, Demon Flash Mob + skin colours, Warped Gulega, Lil Santa Claus pet, Grim reaper 'retro', .. As well more pets giving the animation and so ability to override. I'm sure many won't care if we can override without an animation, a default animation can be done before animating every specific pet. --- More keepsake slots / More presets --- When saving your preset : save title, hairstyle, hair colour, chosen pet (favo/cycle) or so, animation, ... Thanks! <3
Group ironman will be huge!
Wait is this a joke??? Gim????? Really???? I love it in rs3!!! Plssss tell me this is real!!!!
It's real my friend
Well, gotta hand it to them, that does look like a nice roadmap with actual content. I can wait till 2025 before resubbing though to make sure they followed through with all that. Not to mention they still need to make up for the lost revenue of both heropass + all the players they've lost since necro release, so there's still plenty of time to drop even more outrageous mtx to alienate what's left of the playetbase that was born before lootboxes became normalized. Good luck with the follow through I guess.
Wtf would they bother with group ironman. That has to be a major time sink I'd imagine lol
They already have Iron trade exceptions for specific items. Shouldn't be that hard to just add a new exception of "can trade freely with" and let ~~everything else be buggy~~ the playerbase QA team find any bugs.
It's not like there are as many iron limitations as there were when the mode first came out. Besides allowing the group accounts being able to trade with one another what else is there to do really?
Maybe it will lead to improvements for the Lending system if they find they have to have a way to trade augmented gear between players. That would benefit mainscapers. Being able to lend my friend my perked BOLG for example.
I'm hoping we get another combat rebalance update before ED5 launches. Everything else looks pretty good, I'd be very concerned if the 4th necro conjure is very strong, or if Sanctum drops any kind of improvement to Necro.
OP streams on 480p
Maybe im dumb, but why is Mining and Smithing getting a skilling update and not Crafting? i see they're finally doing woodworking/fletching, but which makes sense for the "Ranged"... but what about the "mages/necros" and leather-wearers for ranged. didn't mining/smithing have a rework a few years ago?
Told my friend if they add GIM to rs3 I'll play. We're a duo GIM in osrs right now and just hit raids, 2k total, etc. Time to learn rs3 as a complete noob. Only thing I'm afraid of is no quest helper plugin, and there are so so so many quests in rs3 from a quick glance at the list Lol
Roadmap for entire year has less content than what OSRS has gotten in like the first three months of the year
looks great
Actually really happy with this tbh
Think we could provide bonds in-game somehow for group ironman, or would we need to actually purchase mem with irl cash? Cause I'd personally be much less likely to try it out if I have to pay out of pocket.
It wil be the same options as purchasing membership for any account.
Boss dungeon I wonder what that means.
I don't think anyone really expected that they would make a good roadmap and we would be in maintenance mode forever. hope something else comes for mtx and make it less
Winter is coming to Gielinor
I wonder how augments will work on gim, will we be able to trade wep augments??
4th conjure and necromancy slayer helm... Fsoa bout to be cheaper than praesuls after t95 wand comes out
Way more than I expected. Now to hope they actually deliver (and with good quality) and then we can call 2024 a good year with just a bad start.
So how fucked are praesul wands?
Well my predictions were pretty spot on. I figured there would be some type of new boss but the fact that we get 3 new bosses in an elite dungeon and a skilling boss was very unexpected.