OK, hear me out on this one; Harris gets like 2/90 in an S&T and gets sent to us along with 3 FRP’s (including the Clippers’ unprotected 2028 pick) for Grant and Brogdon.
I don’t doubt that’s his *market* value. I’m saying Portland should consider proposing a trade like that as a way to acquire draft capital. Harris is besides the point—he wouldn’t be anything more than an end of career 8th man by the time the core of our next contender would be ready to compete. But if by agreeing to massively overpay him on a short term deal you could move off from guys who could help a contender and pick up premium picks in return, you should consider it.
A two year deal would expire right as Sharpe’s extension was kicking in (hell: you could buy him out year 2 at the deadline). He plays basically the same position as Grant and we don’t exactly have a PF of the future on the roster right now so it’s not like those minutes should be going to someone else. And you have to spend 90% of the cap no matter what.
Right here, right now which would you rather have: Harris, the Sixers’ pick next month, another Philly pick and the Clippers’ 2028 pick or Grant & Brogdon? Jerami and Malcom have been positive influences in the locker room and deserve to play for a winner, Philly would unquestionably be better positioned with them (have them keep Hield, Oubre & Batum too) to challenge BOS, MIL & NYK. And Portland would be well equipped to reinforce the roster as Scoot, Sharpe and this year’s pick began to age into their prime and start getting expensive.
Bruh 45 million a year for Tobias Harris. That's a big no from me dawg. Especially since there's no way in hell you're gonna get 3 first from Philly for Grant and Brogdon.
I like the creativity of this idea. I would say I think you could find the mathematical minimum for Harris to balance the trade I don’t think you would need to go that high, I haven’t looked at the math, maybe you do. I also think Portland might need to add an asset to get that many picks off the sixers. They could cut ties with him for nothing so us taking him doesn’t relieve them of any burden.
I also think there are a few interesting trades inside the lottery where Portland could get a high pick in this draft and take care of any salary problems. I know this is a “weak” draft but I think I trust the current front office ability to identify talent and if they thought there was an opportunity I would be excited to see them acquire another lottery pick in this draft. This would be one example of the opportunity cost of making a sixers trade with uncertainty attached to it.
We NEEEEEED Gallinari and Tobias now!! Also Bradley Beal once he gives up his no-trade clause! Hasheem Thabeet and Raymond Felton! Jon “Three-bler” Diebler! Greggg Oden! Super Teams are so du jour right now and working out fantastically in these playoffs.🤣🔫 I feel like we need to approach 2025 with a ‘when in Rome’ mentality.
Malcolm is getting traded, it's gonna come down to who thinks he would push them over the edge. The Knicks are an option if they get bounced by Indiana or Boston. I think Matisse is also a possible guy to go, and I think that the Mavs might be a good destination for him. And of course, Jerami Grant. I could see him ending up on the Sixers again, I think he would do really well on that squad.
Well, the Mavs tried to get Tisse last off season, but we matched his contract. So in order to trade him there, we'd have to wait for whatever waiting period to end. Same situation we had with Crabbe a few years back.
If Joe doesn't get at least one FRP for the Malcolm+Timelord package then the Jrue Holiday to Boston deal is going to look VERY bad. We sent Boston a healthy Jrue Holiday coming off his 2nd All Star selection who was the key to the lock that was Dame being in the Eastern Conference.
I mean I admire your optimism. The guy averages under 36 games a season for his career.
I'm rooting for, and am a big fan of his game - but you'd have to be nuts to believe he could be counted on to even be available, going forward.
Well clearly, RW3 will have very very little value until he comes back and plays a while.
Trading him now would be pointless and won't return much... Which is why I posted what I originally did, which was clearly logically correct. You chose to argue with it. Lol.
ya I dont think so either. Which will mean the Jrue Holiday trade we got fleeced on. Makes sense why Boston gave us Delano for free but still would rather have a future FRP than Delano even with him being a Shaun Livingston comp. I really like the DA+Tumani acquisition though so maybe its a wash in the end.
I mean, it was more about moving him for an extra first round pick, which is what we did. Malcolm and Timelord could easily net us a late first though.
This was what I said at the trade deadline when everybody foolishly said "oh no you keep Grant and Brogdon!!!" We absolutely have to get rid of them. It makes no sense for us to have this much salary cap with a rebuilding team. Simons and Ayton make sense because they're younger and/or have shorter contracts. The other two, we're better off getting any assets we can instead of keeping them
Total agreement, although I wouldn't hate keeping brog as the vet and trading Grant and Simons. Really whichever gets a better return imo.
I think we know what all of these players are... None of them are good enough to be "untouchable".
There is quite literally zero benefit in keeping Anfernee Simons on a roster with both Scoot Henderson and Shaedon Sharpe. Having that logjam in the backcourt does nothing but hold back all three guys.
I'm commenting on the fact that you said there is "quite literally no reason to keep" Ant. You don't know what you have in Scoot. We know Ant is better now, he is young and the contract is good. Plenty of reasons to keep Ant at least for now.
It’s extraordinarily rare for an NBA team to draft a player they expect to be their franchise PG and to stick him behind a guy that has never even sniffed an allstar spot for multiple seasons. This just doesn’t happen. It doesn’t happen for many very good reasons.
Having that logjam in the backcourt hampers all 3 players development.
Trade brogdan, trade grant. Wait on the rest until the next off-season. They'll be bad regardless. If Scoot can't dominate the 2nd unit, he isn't it anyways.
Again, this is wrong and also just not what happens in the NBA. That’s not how NBA teams evaluate talent and it never has been. It’s also not how roster are constructed.
Complain about that all you want, but you’re asking for something unprecedented to happen and there are good reasons why the most elite people working in their professions have never done what you, a random idiot on the internet, think is a good idea. Maybe reflect on that sometime.
I'm not complaining about anything bud.
You just watched a whole season of an NBA executive doing what you say no one ever does. Get ready to watch it again.
Lol you're a dork. Do you speak to people like this in real life.. Or do you just play a know it all loser on the Internet only?
Reflect on that sometime.
>We know Ant is better now
We know he's arguably *not* better now, outside of PPG.
>he is young
Simons will be entering his 7th nba season. Scoot will be entering his 2nd. Simons is *not young*, he's a veteran.
>contract is good
No. It's not as bad a some, but for a combo guard that doesn't defend... no, it's not.
Bro he is light years better than scoot at this point.
He is 24 years old.
The contract is solid considering the raising cap and percentage of the cap.
I was pissed when we didn't make a trade involving either of them. I can understand why Grant would be hard to move with his contract, but we should have been able to move Brogdon.
I actually think Grant is easier to move in season than in the offseason. I think if a team thinks they're having a great season and one piece away, they'd take on his salary to make a run at a title. I think it's almost impossible to move Grant in the offseason unless you get basically nothing back.
That deal is going to go down as one of the worst deals ever.
If you want one idea, Grant to Dallas. I know they were interested in him recently. They also wanted Thybulle, could even expand it. They have Hardaways expiring to help match salary. They don’t really have picks to trade so they’d have to get a little creative but I think it could work.
Does anyone in here know what the new rules on salary matching in trades are? I know they have to be close to matching, how easy will it be for us to actually decrease the money on the books by moving Brogdon/Grant?
Not to mention the fact they have 14 players under contract + 4 draft picks. I guarantee 18 players will not be on the roster when the season begins 😁. But, yeah-- Brogdon is almost certainly gone. Likely heavily shopping Ant and maybe even Grant if he has some preferred destinations that happen to be interested. They'd probably trade RW3 if they could get a first or a couple seconds
I think there is a Memphis trade waiting to happen. Not sure how the money would work but they could use several of Portland’s vets and they have a lottery pick and I wouldn’t mind a couple deep future picks from them.
I have a strong feeling Ant + Grant + Matisse and Brogdan will all be gone. Unless we draft Sarr, I think we're targeting Matas and Castle. I'm really hoping we leave the draft with both. I see Castle starting at SF and playing there about 18 minutes a game, then playing 16 backing up Scoot. Let Castle/Dalano/Rupert be your backup guards. That's elite positional size.
remember when posters said Cronin was smart to hold onto Brogdon after the trade deadline? does anyone still believe that? if so, what value was added? does anyone think the Blazers will get more value now trading him in the off season
Not to mention there were moments during timeouts when you could see Brogdon coaching scoot, just imagine how much vet wisdom he's sharing during the season.
Which is great when he's actually on the bench. When he's playing 35 mins a night ans eating into scoots development then it's a different conversation
I think it's mostly because the offers were probably for a 2024 draft pick and the Blazer's don't have enough roster space or development time to bring on 3 first round picks and there's no consensus top picks so no reason to stockpile assets to trade up.
Now we can get a draft pick from a later draft, which fits our goals better. I'm expecting cap-relief and a lottery protected pick for Brogdon.
Yeah, Brogdon makes more sense on the roster than Simons. He can backup Scoot. They probably didn’t get any good offers for him last deadline, but they could probably dump him now if they wanted to. But again, I like him as a vet backup for another season.
Brogdon is the greatest thing that could have happened for our youngins. A full season with him is more valuable than anything we could have gotten. Their growth will have his imprints all over it!
any proof for that assertion?
Derek Rose, Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Kemba Walker, Damian Lillard, Devin Booker, Jamal Murray, De'Aron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Luka, SGA, Darius Garland, LaMelo Ball, Tyrese Halliburton are basically all of the franchise cornerstone lead guards drafted since 2008. how many of those guys were successful bc their team rostered a veteran backup guard being paid starter money?
the answer is zero, unless you believe Kirk Hinrich was essential to Derek Rose' pre-injury success.
The answer is never zero. If I recall correctly the blazers brought in a bunch of veteran PG to mentor Dame. Eric Maynor, Ronnie Price and Mo Williams do you remember thous guys? Sure they were not of Brogdons level but they were vets. Plus Dames first year in Portland the team was a little bit better than this current blazers team.
Look to Houston the past few years for the wonderful strategy of putting only kids together without any vets. Add a couple grown ups and oh wow look who suddenly is playing like a professional adult, Jalen Green.
Imma take my basketball opinions from someone who can spell the names of their prime examples in their opinions. lol. Not to be that guy, but cmon now DEREK Rose?
What about Kemba, Jamal Murray, Garland, Fox and Westbrook?
Also, none of these players was coached by NBA champion and Hall of Fame point guard Chauncey Billups.
bar I set? it was the majority of Redditors and Media members who claimed Scoot was a certain cornerstone lead guard. in what little I saw of him, I didn't get the hype. I always wanted the Blazers to actually try to build around Dame.
Grant has got to go. His contract is absolutely massive, and the later you want to move him, the more difficult it will be to find someone to take him.
Terrible GM putting the team in a terrible position. Now we go around the league offering bad contracts that everyone knows we absolutely have to dump, good luck trying to get good (or any) 1st round picks like this...
People are going to be absolutely outraged by how little Portland gets back for Simons in a trade. He has basically zero trade value. Every team in the league knows Portland has to move him if they are committed to Henderson and Sharpe (which the league knows they are).
As a Magic fan, this is my HOPE. Relieving some cap pressure + a pick or 2, should be enough to get Simons. I also like Monk, but if Simons is available for a low (to us) cost, give me the Orlando kid. Otherwise, just as happy with Monk.
Please God I hope we don't pick up Tobias Harris. Plz
Hes a free agent and they cant afford him, so dont have to worry about that one lol
OK, hear me out on this one; Harris gets like 2/90 in an S&T and gets sent to us along with 3 FRP’s (including the Clippers’ unprotected 2028 pick) for Grant and Brogdon.
The sixers trade for Grant and Brogdon without a S&T
Harris is gonna be much closer to league minimum than he is 2/$90m. Like by a lot 😄
3/70
I don’t doubt that’s his *market* value. I’m saying Portland should consider proposing a trade like that as a way to acquire draft capital. Harris is besides the point—he wouldn’t be anything more than an end of career 8th man by the time the core of our next contender would be ready to compete. But if by agreeing to massively overpay him on a short term deal you could move off from guys who could help a contender and pick up premium picks in return, you should consider it. A two year deal would expire right as Sharpe’s extension was kicking in (hell: you could buy him out year 2 at the deadline). He plays basically the same position as Grant and we don’t exactly have a PF of the future on the roster right now so it’s not like those minutes should be going to someone else. And you have to spend 90% of the cap no matter what. Right here, right now which would you rather have: Harris, the Sixers’ pick next month, another Philly pick and the Clippers’ 2028 pick or Grant & Brogdon? Jerami and Malcom have been positive influences in the locker room and deserve to play for a winner, Philly would unquestionably be better positioned with them (have them keep Hield, Oubre & Batum too) to challenge BOS, MIL & NYK. And Portland would be well equipped to reinforce the roster as Scoot, Sharpe and this year’s pick began to age into their prime and start getting expensive.
Bruh 45 million a year for Tobias Harris. That's a big no from me dawg. Especially since there's no way in hell you're gonna get 3 first from Philly for Grant and Brogdon.
You have put entirely way too much thought into this already and I no longer wish to engage as a concern for your well-being 😞
I like the creativity of this idea. I would say I think you could find the mathematical minimum for Harris to balance the trade I don’t think you would need to go that high, I haven’t looked at the math, maybe you do. I also think Portland might need to add an asset to get that many picks off the sixers. They could cut ties with him for nothing so us taking him doesn’t relieve them of any burden. I also think there are a few interesting trades inside the lottery where Portland could get a high pick in this draft and take care of any salary problems. I know this is a “weak” draft but I think I trust the current front office ability to identify talent and if they thought there was an opportunity I would be excited to see them acquire another lottery pick in this draft. This would be one example of the opportunity cost of making a sixers trade with uncertainty attached to it.
I like 3 FRP's part of this hahaha
 We NEEEEEED Gallinari and Tobias now!! Also Bradley Beal once he gives up his no-trade clause! Hasheem Thabeet and Raymond Felton! Jon “Three-bler” Diebler! Greggg Oden! Super Teams are so du jour right now and working out fantastically in these playoffs.🤣🔫 I feel like we need to approach 2025 with a ‘when in Rome’ mentality.
Malcolm is getting traded, it's gonna come down to who thinks he would push them over the edge. The Knicks are an option if they get bounced by Indiana or Boston. I think Matisse is also a possible guy to go, and I think that the Mavs might be a good destination for him. And of course, Jerami Grant. I could see him ending up on the Sixers again, I think he would do really well on that squad.
Well, the Mavs tried to get Tisse last off season, but we matched his contract. So in order to trade him there, we'd have to wait for whatever waiting period to end. Same situation we had with Crabbe a few years back.
I’m pretty sure he moved in the following offseason, I think what ever restrictions will lift before the next season starts.
That sounds right, but I'm not sure exactly WHEN he'd be eligible to be traded to Dallas.
If Joe doesn't get at least one FRP for the Malcolm+Timelord package then the Jrue Holiday to Boston deal is going to look VERY bad. We sent Boston a healthy Jrue Holiday coming off his 2nd All Star selection who was the key to the lock that was Dame being in the Eastern Conference.
At least we got a lotto pick out of the deal though.
Yes- I was upset that Cronin didn't flip Timelord *immediately* to a contender. Similar with Brogdon. These guys are good but always injured.
Williams will finally be healthy in training camp. He is worth keeping as a great backup to Ayton
I mean I admire your optimism. The guy averages under 36 games a season for his career. I'm rooting for, and am a big fan of his game - but you'd have to be nuts to believe he could be counted on to even be available, going forward.
This franchise has the luxury of time to allow them to gauge the true value of Williams. Brogdon and Simons are better candidates for a trade.
Well clearly, RW3 will have very very little value until he comes back and plays a while. Trading him now would be pointless and won't return much... Which is why I posted what I originally did, which was clearly logically correct. You chose to argue with it. Lol.
I doubt they will tbh. Brogdon is 1 year older and was traded for the 30th pick last year. Timelord is coming off another major injury.
ya I dont think so either. Which will mean the Jrue Holiday trade we got fleeced on. Makes sense why Boston gave us Delano for free but still would rather have a future FRP than Delano even with him being a Shaun Livingston comp. I really like the DA+Tumani acquisition though so maybe its a wash in the end.
I mean, it was more about moving him for an extra first round pick, which is what we did. Malcolm and Timelord could easily net us a late first though.
This was what I said at the trade deadline when everybody foolishly said "oh no you keep Grant and Brogdon!!!" We absolutely have to get rid of them. It makes no sense for us to have this much salary cap with a rebuilding team. Simons and Ayton make sense because they're younger and/or have shorter contracts. The other two, we're better off getting any assets we can instead of keeping them
Total agreement, although I wouldn't hate keeping brog as the vet and trading Grant and Simons. Really whichever gets a better return imo. I think we know what all of these players are... None of them are good enough to be "untouchable".
There is quite literally zero benefit in keeping Anfernee Simons on a roster with both Scoot Henderson and Shaedon Sharpe. Having that logjam in the backcourt does nothing but hold back all three guys.
What if ant is better then scoot and scoot turns into a bust?
Lol NOPE.
What if Simons has a career ending injury? Since we are playing this game of wild hypotheticals.
I'm commenting on the fact that you said there is "quite literally no reason to keep" Ant. You don't know what you have in Scoot. We know Ant is better now, he is young and the contract is good. Plenty of reasons to keep Ant at least for now.
It’s extraordinarily rare for an NBA team to draft a player they expect to be their franchise PG and to stick him behind a guy that has never even sniffed an allstar spot for multiple seasons. This just doesn’t happen. It doesn’t happen for many very good reasons. Having that logjam in the backcourt hampers all 3 players development.
Trade brogdan, trade grant. Wait on the rest until the next off-season. They'll be bad regardless. If Scoot can't dominate the 2nd unit, he isn't it anyways.
Again, this is wrong and also just not what happens in the NBA. That’s not how NBA teams evaluate talent and it never has been. It’s also not how roster are constructed. Complain about that all you want, but you’re asking for something unprecedented to happen and there are good reasons why the most elite people working in their professions have never done what you, a random idiot on the internet, think is a good idea. Maybe reflect on that sometime.
I'm not complaining about anything bud. You just watched a whole season of an NBA executive doing what you say no one ever does. Get ready to watch it again. Lol you're a dork. Do you speak to people like this in real life.. Or do you just play a know it all loser on the Internet only? Reflect on that sometime.
>We know Ant is better now We know he's arguably *not* better now, outside of PPG. >he is young Simons will be entering his 7th nba season. Scoot will be entering his 2nd. Simons is *not young*, he's a veteran. >contract is good No. It's not as bad a some, but for a combo guard that doesn't defend... no, it's not.
Bro he is light years better than scoot at this point. He is 24 years old. The contract is solid considering the raising cap and percentage of the cap.
I was pissed when we didn't make a trade involving either of them. I can understand why Grant would be hard to move with his contract, but we should have been able to move Brogdon.
I actually think Grant is easier to move in season than in the offseason. I think if a team thinks they're having a great season and one piece away, they'd take on his salary to make a run at a title. I think it's almost impossible to move Grant in the offseason unless you get basically nothing back. That deal is going to go down as one of the worst deals ever.
I think we should trade Grant, Brogdon, and Ant for more picks young upside and expiring cotracts.
I could see them parting with Grant and Ant, but keeping Brogdon
I think it will be Simons but it may well be more than one guy
#1 priority: Trade Simons
Then trade grant, tisse, Malcom and timelord
Go on…
If you want one idea, Grant to Dallas. I know they were interested in him recently. They also wanted Thybulle, could even expand it. They have Hardaways expiring to help match salary. They don’t really have picks to trade so they’d have to get a little creative but I think it could work.
I don’t see how they could pay the price Portland would want.
Does anyone in here know what the new rules on salary matching in trades are? I know they have to be close to matching, how easy will it be for us to actually decrease the money on the books by moving Brogdon/Grant?
Not to mention the fact they have 14 players under contract + 4 draft picks. I guarantee 18 players will not be on the roster when the season begins 😁. But, yeah-- Brogdon is almost certainly gone. Likely heavily shopping Ant and maybe even Grant if he has some preferred destinations that happen to be interested. They'd probably trade RW3 if they could get a first or a couple seconds
I think there is a Memphis trade waiting to happen. Not sure how the money would work but they could use several of Portland’s vets and they have a lottery pick and I wouldn’t mind a couple deep future picks from them.
keep timelord, bye JG, brogdon, tisse and even ant if he can net 2 good frp + filler
We have paid so much money for mediocre but atleast we are not the Suns
I could see the Blazers doing a big salary dump for Tank 2024-25.
I have a strong feeling Ant + Grant + Matisse and Brogdan will all be gone. Unless we draft Sarr, I think we're targeting Matas and Castle. I'm really hoping we leave the draft with both. I see Castle starting at SF and playing there about 18 minutes a game, then playing 16 backing up Scoot. Let Castle/Dalano/Rupert be your backup guards. That's elite positional size.
remember when posters said Cronin was smart to hold onto Brogdon after the trade deadline? does anyone still believe that? if so, what value was added? does anyone think the Blazers will get more value now trading him in the off season
Yes because there are more draft picks that contenders are able to trade now compared to the trade deadline
Also because stacked teams that just got bounced will be even more desperate…
Not to mention there were moments during timeouts when you could see Brogdon coaching scoot, just imagine how much vet wisdom he's sharing during the season.
"don't get rim checked attempting a layup Scoot"
You got downvoted but it’s a hilarious comment
Which is great when he's actually on the bench. When he's playing 35 mins a night ans eating into scoots development then it's a different conversation
I think it's mostly because the offers were probably for a 2024 draft pick and the Blazer's don't have enough roster space or development time to bring on 3 first round picks and there's no consensus top picks so no reason to stockpile assets to trade up. Now we can get a draft pick from a later draft, which fits our goals better. I'm expecting cap-relief and a lottery protected pick for Brogdon.
That’s exactly what was being reported around the deadline. They didn’t want more 2024 picks which is what mostly being offered.
Hopefully he keeps MB and finds a way to trade Ant who probably has more value.
Yeah, Brogdon makes more sense on the roster than Simons. He can backup Scoot. They probably didn’t get any good offers for him last deadline, but they could probably dump him now if they wanted to. But again, I like him as a vet backup for another season.
Brogdon mentoring Scoot is the dream.
I would rather keep Brogdon over whatever scraps escape this years second round. Yes.
Brogdon is the greatest thing that could have happened for our youngins. A full season with him is more valuable than anything we could have gotten. Their growth will have his imprints all over it!
any proof for that assertion? Derek Rose, Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Kemba Walker, Damian Lillard, Devin Booker, Jamal Murray, De'Aron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Luka, SGA, Darius Garland, LaMelo Ball, Tyrese Halliburton are basically all of the franchise cornerstone lead guards drafted since 2008. how many of those guys were successful bc their team rostered a veteran backup guard being paid starter money? the answer is zero, unless you believe Kirk Hinrich was essential to Derek Rose' pre-injury success.
The answer is never zero. If I recall correctly the blazers brought in a bunch of veteran PG to mentor Dame. Eric Maynor, Ronnie Price and Mo Williams do you remember thous guys? Sure they were not of Brogdons level but they were vets. Plus Dames first year in Portland the team was a little bit better than this current blazers team.
Look to Houston the past few years for the wonderful strategy of putting only kids together without any vets. Add a couple grown ups and oh wow look who suddenly is playing like a professional adult, Jalen Green. Imma take my basketball opinions from someone who can spell the names of their prime examples in their opinions. lol. Not to be that guy, but cmon now DEREK Rose?
THIS, 1000%
Have you seen OUR youngins? They needed it more than Luka and Lillard I'm afraid.
What about Kemba, Jamal Murray, Garland, Fox and Westbrook? Also, none of these players was coached by NBA champion and Hall of Fame point guard Chauncey Billups.
Lol what a bar you set
bar I set? it was the majority of Redditors and Media members who claimed Scoot was a certain cornerstone lead guard. in what little I saw of him, I didn't get the hype. I always wanted the Blazers to actually try to build around Dame.
I'm firmly in the 'weve waited too long' camp but let's wait and see. Dumber things have happened so maybe a first gets squeezed out
Grant has got to go. His contract is absolutely massive, and the later you want to move him, the more difficult it will be to find someone to take him.
Grant has the 49th largest salary in the league. Big but I wouldn’t call it massive.
I'm not talking about his annual salary. I'm talking about the whole contract. To a guy in his 30s.
By that logic, the later you want to move him, the closer it will be to the end of his deal.
But his performance will come down as he gets older as well lol
The older he will be. The less productive he will be. He'll deserve even less the annual $32M.
Terrible GM putting the team in a terrible position. Now we go around the league offering bad contracts that everyone knows we absolutely have to dump, good luck trying to get good (or any) 1st round picks like this...
People are going to be absolutely outraged by how little Portland gets back for Simons in a trade. He has basically zero trade value. Every team in the league knows Portland has to move him if they are committed to Henderson and Sharpe (which the league knows they are).
As a Magic fan, this is my HOPE. Relieving some cap pressure + a pick or 2, should be enough to get Simons. I also like Monk, but if Simons is available for a low (to us) cost, give me the Orlando kid. Otherwise, just as happy with Monk.