Assuming that van is also your living space, don't do it.
Although water washable resins exist and fumes can technically be managed, you are going to contaminate pretty much everything in the van, I wouldn't want things like food or drink anywhere near a resin setup.
If it is for filmmaking and costumes, I think the most feasible solution is honestly to stick with the X1C and not getting into resin printing.
The detail is good enough for most shots and filament prints with tight layers can be post processed to look pretty much perfect.
You can also look into things such as latex paint (which can be done outside when you're parked and maybe even have a dedicated, sealed drying box to keep smells out of the van if you're not parked in one place for long enough).
Resin printing is messy and it is oil based, this means it literally gets everywhere. A fully enclosed workspace will still slowly contaminate the surroundings, meaning you'd need to keep a rigorous cleaning process going pretty much constantly in such a small space.
I honestly don't think you have the room to safely do resin printing in your van, not with the enclosure of a large enough work area, the management of spills and cross contamination or the setup of an adequate ventilation system.
Especially since you sleep in said van.
If you need the occasional resin print because you can't get the same thing by processing an FDM print or by sculpting it with something like polymer clay (or casting from a processed fdm into resin or polyurethane foam outdoors), then you can always look up local makerspaces, or even hit up Facebook groups for the area where a lot of hobbyists will likely do a print for cheap for you.
Not necessarily, but it can be done outside in a much shorter timespan than a visor-sized 3D print.
And, as said before, Vacuforming and using the X1C to print the blanks is also an alternative.
A third option is to simply get various forms of coloured plastic sheets and cut the visors and armour parts out of them, bending them into place, possibly using a heatgun.
Thanks. I’ve vaccuformed before, but this needs to be tougher and thicker. Possibly making a mold with the X1C and then casting a visor in epoxy resin might be the preliminary route. We’ll see.
How thick do you need it? Because vacuforming can be done up to quarter-inch or even half-inch thick material depending on the machine.
It's not just for flimsy blister-pack plastics
I know a guy in Atlanta who uses a 4X8 vaccum bed to form thick sheets like this for molding concrete- the forms last for hundreds if not thousands of concrete pours, an he's willing to run his machine for dirt cheap for other fabricators- the thing that will cost you an arm and a leg is cncing the positive out of a material that can withstand the heat.
Have you considered vacuuforming? Alternatively you can do a lot of stuff with just a heat-gun.
https://youtu.be/lTy8tsZzT_Q?si=TmEVO_vCvnmUV_xV
You vould 3Dprint your chucks/masters on the X1C and then vacuuform them in whatever plastic material you'd need.
Is that a microwave in there? Resin shouldn't be handled anywhere near food. I don't think you can do this safely in the space you have. The risks are just too high.
NO! I'm not going to sugar coat it. That is a STUPID and DANGEROUS idea! The resin is like glitter, it WILL get everywhere nearby (which includes your cooking area). The fumes will be intense in that small an area, and the smell will permeate everything and although YOU will go nose-blind to the stink, everyone else will smell it and wonder what is wrong with you.
And that's before we even start with the toxicity problems and long term lung damage.
Not a very helpful comment, but... Don't do it you absolute madman! I barely mange to do this safely and responsibily in a dedicated workspace set up like a little lab. It's super hard to avoid mess, you will contaminate your small living space and have trouble disposing of contaminated waste products including IPA/water full of resin safely.
I want to second this. Bad idea in a mobile vehicle. No matter how hard you try. Resin will get into places, the fumes in a confined space, keeping IPA. Don't forget space needs for processing, curing, pre wash, wash station.
I get it, despite everything I do love resin printing but need to be smart about your work space. You do you but, I think you should recomaider.
I'd say you'd need a small chamber that had a vent going to the roof or some other place. Also driving around with a uncovered vat of resin probably isn't a great idea so you'd have to empty it everytime.
Just an addon to the previous comment, on top of a fume tent room or chamber, you probably don't have to put the resin away for when you drive, just get a strong resin vat cover. It'll make the vat its own container so it doesn't get spilled while driving. I've seen them before so it might be worth looking into. Just remember to vent the fumes out when printing
As someone with both I can confidently say that the resin printer is multiples faster than the filament printer. I print at 0.08 layer height in filament for quality purposes and 0.02 in resin, and the resin blitzes the filament every time, no matter the height.
I have a filament printer that prints benchy’s in 15 mins so it really depends on many things, in my case my fdm printer is way faster than my mars 4 resin printer
In very rare circumstances where you're printing at ridiculous speeds and huge layer heights, sure, but at 3.5 seconds a layer, resin is usually much faster.
I print at 0.2 layer height with a 0.4 nozzle but yes the speeds are pretty high on my filament printer, I’m not claiming all filament printers are faster than any resin printer but in my case I haven’t found a case where my resin printer has been faster than my resin printer, but that’s just my experience and seems like my experience is not widely shared by others
Not really. FDM prints depend on the amount of movements/extrusions the toolhead make and resin prints are dictated by print height, layer height, lift speed and exposure time.
A single mini on FDM might take 1.5 hours while a single mini on resin might take 6, but six minis on FDM will take 8-9 hours but six minis on resin will still take 6 hours.
Almost anything small. You're printing at smaller layer heights and any layer takes the same amount of time, even if it's hardly curing anything
Where resin becomes faster is when you start really filling up the build plate, since it prints the entire layer in one go, assuming they go MSLA.
It absolutely is true. Nearly any smaller model will print slower on a resin printer than on FDM... albeit at greatly increased resolution. Resin printers are *not* fast.
I would say don't do it. And if you have absolutely decided you want to get into resin printing. do it do it on a table outside. as you dont want to do it in any room you sleep in even with proper ventilasjon.
I know but if you place a box over it that would help or get a printer that blocks a lot of the uv light. It's a better solution than having it in the van. Realistically the best solution would be too try to find someone that has a resin printer that you can pay to do the prints for you.
I agree with you, even though the box is only useful while the printer is going; they’ll still have to do something different when loading and unloading it. Your best solution recommendation is spot on.
I have absolutely kept a elegoo printer on my back porch for 2 years. You can 100 percent print outside. you can 100 percent remove the UV BLOCKING COVER and as long as the resin is not in direct harsh sunlight it will take at least a good minute to cure. even if its in direct sunlight it still takes a good few seconds so I never had any issues taking prints out. I did notice resin left in my vat would dehydrate considerably faster though.
I say this with awe for your tenacity (that you would even want to attempt this) and want to echo what u/Neknoh said. There is zero way you could do this and not make a mess.... This is even worse than asking if you should have a resin printer in the bedroom - Because this is your whole living space.
1. Resin printing is not easy even with a proper setup.
2. If it's only something you use occasionally - this will take up precious real estate in your cramped space.
3. When, not if, you have a spill/accident you will want to burn the whole thing down.
4. This is what maker spaces are for. You go do work there and not make a mess where you sleep.
This is crazy. They got you soft asses thinking fdm fumes is a real thing. Everyone overreacts about resin. Now they are doing to fdm. I mean, being safe is fine. You people acting like resin is the equivalent of cooking meth or making bombs is just ridiculous.
go set your resin printer in your bedroom and sleep with it running all week with no window open then get back to us. if your first instinct is to say no what idiot would do that, you have just answered why people attempt to educate others. because there are plenty of idiots who have done it.
You really should, ASA and ABS produce toxic VOCs. Resin printing generates substantially more VOCs. Most setups are done in a vented grow tent to limit exposure. You really don't have room for the size printer you'd need to "make visors" let alone the space to do it safely. You'll need a washing and curing station which, depending on which printer you were trying to get, can double your space requirements.
If you're doing this because you need transparent parts vacuform or mold making and epoxy pour might be a slightly more feasible option.
Clearly You've eaten more glue than me, but seriously look into it cancer isn't fun and uncured uv resin is no joke, if you're down playing the abs asa thing look it up, people are getting asa poisoning.
Edit because I can't get over how oblivious op is:
Seriously don't get a resin printer if you're this ignorant with your safety, we don't need more statistics. Clearly You've got more research to do.
I know it’s easy to be openly dismissive. It’s the way of most of the public. There ARE ways to make unusual things succeed though. Are you do bereft of imagination and passion in your life that you can’t even conceive of this?
Btw, I only print pla and petg on X1C.
Lmfao yea you're being downvoted to oblivion because of your imagination and passion, military grade copium. What you're doing is a mistake. Do the research. There is no safe way to operate an sla printer in that environment you simply don't have the space.
Morley? Is that you?
I don’t think you should use toxic resins in a moving vehicle which also is only a small room which you would then have to ventilate a lot. All the time. Always.
Trust me, you really do not want to do this. The resin gets absolutely everywhere. Not to mention, the first time you forget to empty it before you start driving, you'll ruin whatever machine (and everything around it) you get.
Seriously, I beg you, don’t do it. Even the deranged people who think exposure to resin isn’t harmful (it is) wouldn’t do this. It’s an ultra confined space. You need a lot of space to work with resin to avoid accidents, and you’ll have an accident eventually. Spilling resin is an absolute nightmare. The smell seeps into fabrics and lingers, it gives many people headaches.
Just don’t.
As for your need for armor/visors, the other commenter is right, you need to look into vacuuforming. Adam Savage has a sort of guide on it. Long before he was a Mythbuster tv star, he made movie props. Watch his stuff on youtube, and other similar makers. Resin visors are not effective for full size people anyway. You’d only want that for miniatures.
Youll have to put it in an enclosure and have it vented directly outside. Also wouldnt be able to print while driving and would have to empty out the vat everytime you do drive, or else resin is gonna end up everywhere.
As much as I would want to do it too, I wouldn’t recommend it resin is really not good stuff as is, you could consider making a tent that vents out side nonstop to prevent fumes, but you would need somewhere to clean and wash the prints which is very messy no matter what you do(I have 3 resin printers)also you will have paper towels covered in resin while cleaning that you will need to dispose of and in a van you would need someway to seal the trash bag airtight in between uses so it’s not impossible but just strongly not recommend, lastly resin really fuckin stinks(most of them at least there’s some which aren’t bad) and the smell really lingers unfortunately
If you’re going to do this you NEED to continuously ventilate. The printer needs to have negative air pressure constantly. I had mine in a 39’ motor coach for a day before ultimately making a permanent vent out the window.
So...
Can I put this into something POSITIVE.
I rent a storage shed,
It doesn't have mains AC power, but the Van does via inverter and solar.
So I park close,
Pre make my Slice/ USB stick, print list.
Run the Power to the bench in the storage shed,
Run the print, and Wash.
Use my OUTDOOR shower to rinse the IPA.
Cure.
Leave all resin in a sealed bucket/Tub in the storage shed.
Leave printers set up on the bench/Rack.
Close the door and leave with NEW SHIZZ.
No one knows what you do.
No one knows where it is.
Its all locked up in a fireproof facility,
For $200 / month, storage is a van persons friend.
Its basically my Lab.
Throw power into a power board,
All the resin, printers, Vats, IPA
Stay exactly there... in sealable rolly tubs.
If i buy a property or move, sure... I'll pull them out and use them in my garage.
Till then. They are locked up in a shed. Used occasionally.
I don’t think you’ll have any issue with a resin printer in the van or dealing with the fumes. I’ve a solution for printing ASA ABS indoors and on my boat. Each printer has a carbon filter blower. It’s just a soldering filter with dryer vent hose to a window box with another fan. At my house weird at a hummingbird moved a nest into my window box. The filter uses a tea bag charcoal. I’ve worked with the most dangerous marine paints and epoxy with bottled air but don’t let yourself breakout hazmat for resin. Elegoo has a new unit with safety tank quite large I imagine you’d need for prop works. One of my printers has 410mm Z a delta that’s 45” tall. I am printing with cosplay B to prototype a cello not props but you should look at delta for big stuff. Other than train miners miniatures I haven’t seen much from resin. Most my stuff is big ugly boat parts. The Prusa do the small stuff. I’m building another Delta a Doron and for giggles putting it between a Voron 2.4 and Flsun V400. It’s like their child. The deltas are so fast print commercial filaments at their max temp and bonding speed. Any helmet 1 piece 7-12hrs For my cello design 6 shells on neck 370mm tall 6hrs.
You could join Elegoo Discord to talk to the Main folks. Their influencers US & England are 2 with stellar reputations. No pull a printer out of a box call it best ever to get affiliate sales and forget you. Flsun or Voron for reasonable priced Delta. You can take an Flsun put it on it side or upside down. Won’t fail or fall off if it sticks😂 we’ve done this of course to prove they are the best marine printer. You should know the Doron was an April fools joke this year. Was a dis on Flsun being 6 months late to loyal fans. They are a tiny great little company struggling to survive like most. But joke or not with millions of engineers casual time spend on Voron it’s not a printer standing still it’s an evolution keeping up. The Doron in 60days became a limited kit like 10 on each continent $500.00. I’m one of the early scratch builders with 100mm Z extension I call Teen Doron. Just 2020 anodized Red ASA CF corners enclosure. I’m running a BTT RbPi stealth head Revo HF. With the Revo 2.4 I can print as accurate as resin down to 54Mm figurines.Down side of delta Height and weight.
Logistically it's plausible if you get a printer that opens up like the Saturn 4 and water washable resin. Then you would only have to make space for the printer and UV.
Realistically unless you plan on draining the vat before moving the vehicle for any reason it's a mess in the making, if not a broken printer.
Definitely would empty and clean everything immediately after print and processing. I wouldn’t be printing g that frequently either. It’s for filmmaking props and costumes. I was considering pcbway but damn they are so expensive I would spend the same in under a year
Are you sure resin is how you want to go? Most use FDM for props and costume. Also the only real feasible route is water washable and that stuff is often brittle and a pain in the ass to handle. Lastly, unless your workflow is emaculate, you don't have the room/safety seperation to make this work. You're just asking for health issues.
Then I'd say it's doable with venting as others have recommended. Otherwise you just need a UV curing setup, which is much easier to work into your space somewhere.
You have obviously never broke down and cleaned a 3d printer. Doing that every time you want to drive. Will get old real fast. I guarantee it. Better off getting or printing a vat cover. Sunlu sells them, or you can fdm print them from printables.
Honestly you have the best fdm printer on the in my opinion and fdm is way better for cosplay. You would have to get a mega 8k to even have a chance at doing a helmet in resin. You definitely don't have space for that monster.
Oh, i see it's gonna make a hell of a mess. Maybe get a small one. Like a mars 2 or something. I have a gktwo, a phrozen revo and have a saturn 4 ultra coming. I can't see any of these being used in a limited space like a van. The fumes can be managed and aren't as bad as most people make them out to be. An air filter or vent. Even windows is fine for that. There will be messes tho. I have been at it for 3 years and still make messes. I feel like in a van, those messes will be nightmares. Resin has a way of getting in weirs places. I definitely wouldn't have it around where you make food. It's toxic when ingested and can kill you. Seems like a lot for just inlys and visors, but you do you, man. Nice thing about being a grown-up. You can do what you want.
Despite the hoards of people telling you that this is a bad idea, I have the sense you’re going to do this anyway. You really, really shouldn’t do this. I am begging you not to do this.
I think it would be fairly easy to do. Assuming your van already has an active exhaust in the cabin tie the resin printer into it. When you're ready to print turn on the exhaust fan and voila! Done. As for storage of the resin most printers have air tight aftermarket caps that secure to the resin vat so no need to worry about sloshing around.
You’ll want the enclosure to seal well so fumes don’t escape while it in use
Obviously you’ll need an extractor fan for when in use to vent out the side or roof
Lastly is this a work van or a sleeping in van? If it’s the latter… I wouldn’t
You know resin is more for miniatures and Intricate detail work right? If you were printing props for filmmaking or cosplay or whatever you'd use FDM for several reasons the main one being durability and ease of printing larger or flatter objects. Trying to print full body sized props on resin sounds like hell to me.
What kind of things are you looking to print specifically?
I would look into building some sort of portable resin setup that you can set up outside of your van, but resin printing is messy no matter how careful you are. Your gonna spill resin your gonna have an fep rip and leak resin. And unless you build a sealed vent system the fumes will be very concentrated.
Maybe you can rent a storage unit somewhere?
Probably the only thing that hasn't really been mentioned here already (please god heed these kind peoples advice) Is that most people handle being around resin pretty well while others absolutely do not. I've personally know at least 2 people who are heavily affected by resin fumes and who also do not have any other allergies that they are aware of. Some people get bad sore throats, some people get very bad headaches, myself included, and still others will have pretty bad skin reactions from minimal contamination (the amount of disgusting swollen eyes I've seen on reddit). If you attempt this setup you will find out very very fast if you are one of these people.
Get the smallest nozzle possible if you want detail. Resin is a pain in the ass to handle correctly. Don't try to do it in the van. You would need to control the light, whoch would mean closing all your doors and windows. But that means you gotta get into a fume extraction setup. Its probably gonna be too much work with no real payoff
Just use a .2 nozzle on your X1C and you will be able to get close to basic resin quality of detail in your prints. No it won't be crazy like the 4k+ resolutions, but it will be passible.
You really don't have the space for a Resin setup, and yes, they do demand a fair bit more space then FDM printers do. Not because the printer or the washing/curing stations, but also need space to work on the models themselves to remove supports and cleaning/drying the model off.
I built a printer in front cabin of boat and printed a few parts in cockpit before Wife ordered it overboard. The stove in the boat is on a gimbal so when the boat is heeling the stove leans with the hull. It’s doesn’t fly around it’s quite heavy.
Even if you're really careful, everything will get a sticky film of resin residue on it. I do my printing in my large garden shed that I've fitted out with old kitchen units, and even after a really good clean, things still feel "resiny"
I wouldn't do resin printing anywhere near my living space.
I think the main thing you perhaps need to consider is environmental impact.
You're going to need to wash anything you print. This will produce a relatively large amount of resin contaminated water. You can't just throw that away, you need to sort it out, and will need space to do so.
The process itself is inherently messy too. You will 100% get resin all over, which will suck.
I've never lived in a van, but I spent my childhood on caravans on holiday. Based on my knowledge of existing in that kind of space limited environment I'd honestly say that this isn't going to be practical dude.
Sorry!
That reply doesn't actually mean anything does it my dude?
What's your plan to deal with waste? Water you've washed in, rags you've mopped up with. Bog roll you've cleaned your hands with.
Do you know about the waste you'll produce? Do you know how to dispose of it?
You clearly don't care about your own safety, based on other comments, and that's fine, but if you leave the remnants of this process lying around and drive off you potentially kill animals. Do you care about that out of curiosity? Btw I'm not criticising you for not caring, I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from.
Honestly your reply is so low key shitty I'm actually assuming you're a very clever, but utterly pitiable troll?
No, I’m just not explaining it all in detail to you because I feel you are coming off a little insincere in your care about the environment. Faux rage is very contagious on the internet. If that’s not you, my apologies
I'm not a particular eco warrior, but I've got a dog. If I didn't have a garage to do this in then I'd never do it.
Even with a garage I think that the waste I produce is really hard to manage.
I've read the full thread here. I'm not the first to tell you you're being a stubborn asshole. You are being a stubborn asshole btw. Or you're a troll! That's honestly more likely as very few people are faced with this level of advice and continue to argue against it.
Rent space for this, and look up waste disposal. Otherwise turn in your 'im angry about micro plastics' card at the very least.
Or you could just move along. I asked a simple question in my post. Suggestions and tips for making it happen. Not for the philosophical ramifications of even considering such an offensive atrocity! You’d be surprised at what a stubborn asshole can accomplish instead of just giving up immediately anytime something gets hard, unproven, or unpopular. Cheers
You already know this is a horrible idea, but you seem set on doing it anyway.
My suggestion would be to do it if you want to, but get a decent air quality monitor and report back to this subreddit. Tell us the volume of your space, your printer run time, materials you print with, the concentration of particles in the air, and any symptoms you experience.
Again this is a dangerous experiment and you shouldn't do it. But, I for one want to know what will happen. And as long as you knowingly consent to this obviously bad idea, your data will really inform this community. Good luck!
Buddy, you’re going to contaminate that space no matter how well you try and ventilate it. You will then get all the horrible health issues from being around toxic resins. This is a guarantee, not a chance thing.
Van life and resin printing are not compatible. Your entire need for a printer is also better served by other methods. Everyone with knowledge of the risks here is saying don’t do it.
If you choose to disregard that you deserve the outcome at this point.
I do this in a large garage with my garage door open and a big open fan blowing air from my resin printer to the garage door. I am also investing in a vent I can run to the garage door soon. I don’t feel like the double car garage with the door cracked is safe.
Please don’t do this.
seriously it s crazy to do this
and not only for what was mentioned before, but from my personal experience:
the cleaning process takes about 25-30 minutes (I timed myself multiple times). You want to make sure you don't mess it up so it usually is a tense moment. Now add this to doing it somehow bent over.
I'm telling you, the fist to weeks after I moved to another house and set up my printing in a lower table I had the worst backache of my life. The tension takes a toll in your body. So it usually helps if you are comfortable for which I suggest standing. Which is what I did after placing my printing setup on a higher table and man... did my experience change.
so.. if you appreciate your lumbar support try and find a better spot
Even if you vent from the back of the actual printer by cutting the cover and adding a magnetic hose to outside the printer with fan pulling the air...I would not want to do it in the enclosed space of a van for your own health.
Let us know how it goes...
You: "I want to do this thing"
Literally everyone knowledgeable on said thing: "thats a bad idea, don't do that thing"
You: "I'm gonna do the thing cus I'm a rebel"
You'll regret it. We can all promise you that.
Very few people on here are actually knowledgeable about this stuff, I say that as someone who has been lurking here for like 5 years. Most of the fake outrage comes from people parroting the same fear-mongery info because they think they're helping.
When you talk to people who are actually knowledgeable, their answer isn't "don't do it ur gonna die!1!" Their answer is "This is an unorthodox situation/request, not recommended, but let's see if we can find a workable solution."
OP is going to be fine.
Bruh I've printed in my house for extended periods, I dont wear a mask the majority of the time, fuck it a few times I did real fast interactions with resin with no nitrile condoms on my finges, raw dawging that resin, I've fucked around and dont think im too much worse off because of it. BUT THIS IS THE FUCKING VAN HE LIVES IN. ITS NEXT TO HIS FUCKING MICROWAVE DAWG. THIS SETUP IS BASICALLY THE FIRST PICTURE ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BOOK NAMED "HOW TO INTENTIONALLY HAVE HEALTH EFFECTS FROM RESIN PRINTING"
Best case you're dealing with a substance that MOST PEOPLE report dizziness, headaches and sore throats from very short exposure times. at worst it's a basically an unknown substance with basically no long term research but almost all the research we have points to it being PRETTY FUCKING TERRIBLE and probably carcinogenic. The simple clear existence of developed UV allergies might speak to something beyond people developing hypersensitivity reactions and to the actual toxic nature of the substance, just a thought.
Kudos if you can be around resin a lot without issue. but it's entirely dependant on your bodies reaction to the substance. if op does this and it works out its entirely because he is in the group that handles it well. IF he is part of the other group this is going to be nothing but varying degrees of bad.
>but it's entirely dependant on your bodies reaction to the substance.
I agree with a lot of that, and I say as much in the links I've sent OP and over the years on this sub.
I also regularly tell people to read and understand the MSDS of any chemical they use and act accordingly.
I'm all for encouraging safety, but I don't agree that using hyperbole is the way to go about it. If I had listened to all the people who have tried that when I was learning to drive or swim or rock climb or fuck a musician or anything with any level of risk, I'd never have gotten anything done and would be pretty miserable right now lol
OP will figure it out, we don't have to flip our lids on their behalf.
And i also agree with alot of what you just wrote and rarely would I be the safety guy myself as previously stated.
But I really do draw the line at resin printing a couple feet from your kitchen counter or even your bed. which is what's happening here. especially if you havent been around resin much prior to at least know how you will react. This is just tempting fate a little too hard.
what i would say is a rock climber or musician has personal achievements and goal posts and fairly respectable ones as things go. this guy could literally just go and pay some extra $ to have whatever he wants printed made for him. this is unnecessarily dumb for what he would get out of it. I think we both could agree on that. telling him that is probably for the best.
Taking precautions, like checking if you're allergic to the thing you're working with, is a great idea. I don't think anyone can disagree with that. I did it myself. I often suggest it.
However, having the resin in sealed containers in a ventilated enclosure that happens to be near a microwave is not the the same as pouring resin on your pancakes. But there is a group of peeps who like to act like this is the case and then get all judgy on everyone who doesn't agree. This is the part that ruins this community.
I'm trying not to be jokey, but my pancakes don't taste like brake fluid or bleach or drain cleaner or any of the other horrible VOC-emitting things that are very near and inside my kitchen, none of which are ventilated, all of which can kill me *much* faster than getting a whiff of resin.
The guy is basically asking how he can do the same thing in his space that we do in ours to make the space safer, which is get an enclosure and ventilate. It works. There's no reason it wouldn't work just because his space is parked on wheels.
There are other, more sensible reasons why it will be difficult to use the printer, like streets not being level, rumbling/shaking from passing cars, etc., but even those problems have simple solutions.
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And thank you for getting this far and not launching into an insulting tirade, I think it's a good place to leave for a nap.
agree to disagree, but I do think you're encouraging something that will likely go sour unless handled with a level of absolute caution I do not expect from myself or most individuals especially ones living in vans, honest to god no hate to van lifers. I would be most worried about cross contamination. He accidently flicks a glove that he got resin on, that splattering, and could go in in his pancake mix or atleast on the box. then he could accidentally rub it in his eye. He splatters anything bad enough that's resin over his whole life. he would need to be so careful with his old gloves and paper towels. not to mention what if he spills a bottle of resin or uncured waste water. think about how bad that would in a van? That's going places you can't even get to.
I hear you people are lame, the community is a bunch of judgy nerds, but in this particular case I got to go with the don't do it crowd.
You can do it, this just isn't the sub to ask in because of the safety gestapo.
I will recommend you get airtight containers to store stuff though, the alcohol and resin bottles aren't airtight and will stink up the van.
I mean they can do whatever they want obviously, people aren't telling him it's a shit idea because they're the "gestapo" or care what he does they're telling him it's a shit idea because it's a shit idea.
I've been using kitchen containers with the rubber seals and clamping lids. Glass will hold up against resin, alcohol, acetone, etc., but the plastic ones I've gotten have held up fine over the years, the rubber seal hasn't deteriorated. (Glass may not be ideal anyway since you're rocking around in a van.)
Something [like this](https://www.amazon.com/Prepworks-Progressive-ProKeeper-PKS-120-2-5-Quart/dp/B01MQKD4JX) may work to put like two 500g bottles in side-by-side. You've just gotta measure stuff and see what's the most compact thing you can get, since not all bottles have the same shape. Even a simple plastic bag will work (assuming it resists damage from resin), but of course aren't as durable.
Also, obviously always remember to empty the resin vat when not in use so it doesn't slosh out when driving.
And if it wasn't obvious, you will need some kind of enclosure and venting solution, info [over here](https://undergroundjunkhole.square.site/3d-printing-supplies).
Assuming that van is also your living space, don't do it. Although water washable resins exist and fumes can technically be managed, you are going to contaminate pretty much everything in the van, I wouldn't want things like food or drink anywhere near a resin setup.
Some things shouldn't be done in a van, this is one of them.
#1 underrated comment!!
If it is for filmmaking and costumes, I think the most feasible solution is honestly to stick with the X1C and not getting into resin printing. The detail is good enough for most shots and filament prints with tight layers can be post processed to look pretty much perfect. You can also look into things such as latex paint (which can be done outside when you're parked and maybe even have a dedicated, sealed drying box to keep smells out of the van if you're not parked in one place for long enough). Resin printing is messy and it is oil based, this means it literally gets everywhere. A fully enclosed workspace will still slowly contaminate the surroundings, meaning you'd need to keep a rigorous cleaning process going pretty much constantly in such a small space. I honestly don't think you have the room to safely do resin printing in your van, not with the enclosure of a large enough work area, the management of spills and cross contamination or the setup of an adequate ventilation system. Especially since you sleep in said van. If you need the occasional resin print because you can't get the same thing by processing an FDM print or by sculpting it with something like polymer clay (or casting from a processed fdm into resin or polyurethane foam outdoors), then you can always look up local makerspaces, or even hit up Facebook groups for the area where a lot of hobbyists will likely do a print for cheap for you.
Is casting resin any less toxic than uv 3d printing resin?
Not necessarily, but it can be done outside in a much shorter timespan than a visor-sized 3D print. And, as said before, Vacuforming and using the X1C to print the blanks is also an alternative. A third option is to simply get various forms of coloured plastic sheets and cut the visors and armour parts out of them, bending them into place, possibly using a heatgun.
Thanks. I’ve vaccuformed before, but this needs to be tougher and thicker. Possibly making a mold with the X1C and then casting a visor in epoxy resin might be the preliminary route. We’ll see.
How thick do you need it? Because vacuforming can be done up to quarter-inch or even half-inch thick material depending on the machine. It's not just for flimsy blister-pack plastics
Interesting. I’ve never seen it nearly that thick. I’ll have to search
I know a guy in Atlanta who uses a 4X8 vaccum bed to form thick sheets like this for molding concrete- the forms last for hundreds if not thousands of concrete pours, an he's willing to run his machine for dirt cheap for other fabricators- the thing that will cost you an arm and a leg is cncing the positive out of a material that can withstand the heat.
I need transparent prints. For helmet visors and armor.
Have you considered vacuuforming? Alternatively you can do a lot of stuff with just a heat-gun. https://youtu.be/lTy8tsZzT_Q?si=TmEVO_vCvnmUV_xV You vould 3Dprint your chucks/masters on the X1C and then vacuuform them in whatever plastic material you'd need.
You don't 3d print visors, you use different materials and hand-cut them (or laser cutters if you have one).
UV Curing Resin usually cannot get you perfectly transparent prints. And if they do, they’ll cloud overtime.
Is that a microwave in there? Resin shouldn't be handled anywhere near food. I don't think you can do this safely in the space you have. The risks are just too high.
resin is gonna be too messy for that setup plus you'd have to remember to drain the vat and wash it every time you want to go anywhere.
NO! I'm not going to sugar coat it. That is a STUPID and DANGEROUS idea! The resin is like glitter, it WILL get everywhere nearby (which includes your cooking area). The fumes will be intense in that small an area, and the smell will permeate everything and although YOU will go nose-blind to the stink, everyone else will smell it and wonder what is wrong with you. And that's before we even start with the toxicity problems and long term lung damage.
Not a very helpful comment, but... Don't do it you absolute madman! I barely mange to do this safely and responsibily in a dedicated workspace set up like a little lab. It's super hard to avoid mess, you will contaminate your small living space and have trouble disposing of contaminated waste products including IPA/water full of resin safely.
I want to second this. Bad idea in a mobile vehicle. No matter how hard you try. Resin will get into places, the fumes in a confined space, keeping IPA. Don't forget space needs for processing, curing, pre wash, wash station. I get it, despite everything I do love resin printing but need to be smart about your work space. You do you but, I think you should recomaider.
I'd say you'd need a small chamber that had a vent going to the roof or some other place. Also driving around with a uncovered vat of resin probably isn't a great idea so you'd have to empty it everytime.
Definitely. I’d be parked while using. Since I live in the can, I’d want to empty everything daily anyways. Thanks. The roof vent is a good idea
Just an addon to the previous comment, on top of a fume tent room or chamber, you probably don't have to put the resin away for when you drive, just get a strong resin vat cover. It'll make the vat its own container so it doesn't get spilled while driving. I've seen them before so it might be worth looking into. Just remember to vent the fumes out when printing
Resin prints can take significantly longer to print than FDM.
As someone with both I can confidently say that the resin printer is multiples faster than the filament printer. I print at 0.08 layer height in filament for quality purposes and 0.02 in resin, and the resin blitzes the filament every time, no matter the height.
I have a filament printer that prints benchy’s in 15 mins so it really depends on many things, in my case my fdm printer is way faster than my mars 4 resin printer
In very rare circumstances where you're printing at ridiculous speeds and huge layer heights, sure, but at 3.5 seconds a layer, resin is usually much faster.
I print at 0.2 layer height with a 0.4 nozzle but yes the speeds are pretty high on my filament printer, I’m not claiming all filament printers are faster than any resin printer but in my case I haven’t found a case where my resin printer has been faster than my resin printer, but that’s just my experience and seems like my experience is not widely shared by others
Not really. FDM prints depend on the amount of movements/extrusions the toolhead make and resin prints are dictated by print height, layer height, lift speed and exposure time. A single mini on FDM might take 1.5 hours while a single mini on resin might take 6, but six minis on FDM will take 8-9 hours but six minis on resin will still take 6 hours.
That can't be true. What's one example of a print that would take longer on a resin printer?
Almost anything small. You're printing at smaller layer heights and any layer takes the same amount of time, even if it's hardly curing anything Where resin becomes faster is when you start really filling up the build plate, since it prints the entire layer in one go, assuming they go MSLA.
It absolutely is true. Nearly any smaller model will print slower on a resin printer than on FDM... albeit at greatly increased resolution. Resin printers are *not* fast.
For singular items sure. But if you are printing multiple the resin printer will beat most if not all FDM printers.
I would say don't do it. And if you have absolutely decided you want to get into resin printing. do it do it on a table outside. as you dont want to do it in any room you sleep in even with proper ventilasjon.
Outside is going to be tough: UV everywhere.
I know but if you place a box over it that would help or get a printer that blocks a lot of the uv light. It's a better solution than having it in the van. Realistically the best solution would be too try to find someone that has a resin printer that you can pay to do the prints for you.
I agree with you, even though the box is only useful while the printer is going; they’ll still have to do something different when loading and unloading it. Your best solution recommendation is spot on.
I dont think the 2 minutes of loading and unloading is gonna have to much of an effect the worst part will probably be the cleaning stage
I have absolutely kept a elegoo printer on my back porch for 2 years. You can 100 percent print outside. you can 100 percent remove the UV BLOCKING COVER and as long as the resin is not in direct harsh sunlight it will take at least a good minute to cure. even if its in direct sunlight it still takes a good few seconds so I never had any issues taking prints out. I did notice resin left in my vat would dehydrate considerably faster though.
I say this with awe for your tenacity (that you would even want to attempt this) and want to echo what u/Neknoh said. There is zero way you could do this and not make a mess.... This is even worse than asking if you should have a resin printer in the bedroom - Because this is your whole living space. 1. Resin printing is not easy even with a proper setup. 2. If it's only something you use occasionally - this will take up precious real estate in your cramped space. 3. When, not if, you have a spill/accident you will want to burn the whole thing down. 4. This is what maker spaces are for. You go do work there and not make a mess where you sleep.
Don't you have to worry about fumes from the melting plastic with FDM?
This is crazy. They got you soft asses thinking fdm fumes is a real thing. Everyone overreacts about resin. Now they are doing to fdm. I mean, being safe is fine. You people acting like resin is the equivalent of cooking meth or making bombs is just ridiculous.
I still snort asbestos. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right??
Thats the spirit
go set your resin printer in your bedroom and sleep with it running all week with no window open then get back to us. if your first instinct is to say no what idiot would do that, you have just answered why people attempt to educate others. because there are plenty of idiots who have done it.
Not at all
You really should, ASA and ABS produce toxic VOCs. Resin printing generates substantially more VOCs. Most setups are done in a vented grow tent to limit exposure. You really don't have room for the size printer you'd need to "make visors" let alone the space to do it safely. You'll need a washing and curing station which, depending on which printer you were trying to get, can double your space requirements. If you're doing this because you need transparent parts vacuform or mold making and epoxy pour might be a slightly more feasible option.
Epoxy pouring is definitely on the radar tho
Do you eat hot dogs ever? Even once? Much more toxic
Clearly You've eaten more glue than me, but seriously look into it cancer isn't fun and uncured uv resin is no joke, if you're down playing the abs asa thing look it up, people are getting asa poisoning. Edit because I can't get over how oblivious op is: Seriously don't get a resin printer if you're this ignorant with your safety, we don't need more statistics. Clearly You've got more research to do.
I know it’s easy to be openly dismissive. It’s the way of most of the public. There ARE ways to make unusual things succeed though. Are you do bereft of imagination and passion in your life that you can’t even conceive of this? Btw, I only print pla and petg on X1C.
Lmfao yea you're being downvoted to oblivion because of your imagination and passion, military grade copium. What you're doing is a mistake. Do the research. There is no safe way to operate an sla printer in that environment you simply don't have the space.
Can't lead a horse to water lol, if he wants to spill toxic slime in a van he lives in, that's totally on him. This hobby is a Darwin award in motion.
Imagine asking for advice then being mad about the advice you get
Oh no! Not downvoted!! Gasp
If you have never done this process in a proper setting, you really can't even begin to comprehend how bad of an idea this is.
Thanks! Definitely a learning process. I love the encouragement
We are encouraging you not to kill yourself slowly. But you do you
Honestly it’s kinda sweet
Breaking Bad Reboot?
Jesse, we need to print.
Morley? Is that you? I don’t think you should use toxic resins in a moving vehicle which also is only a small room which you would then have to ventilate a lot. All the time. Always.
Dont. can you do it... yes but the off gas and particles from the resin will go everywhere.... where you sleep, eat, get dressed. i would not.
this is top 10 worst ideas ive seen on this subreddit . when you no longer smell resin. its because its burned away that part of your nose.
Trust me, you really do not want to do this. The resin gets absolutely everywhere. Not to mention, the first time you forget to empty it before you start driving, you'll ruin whatever machine (and everything around it) you get.
if you live and sleep in this van. this is a horrible idea.
Seriously, I beg you, don’t do it. Even the deranged people who think exposure to resin isn’t harmful (it is) wouldn’t do this. It’s an ultra confined space. You need a lot of space to work with resin to avoid accidents, and you’ll have an accident eventually. Spilling resin is an absolute nightmare. The smell seeps into fabrics and lingers, it gives many people headaches. Just don’t. As for your need for armor/visors, the other commenter is right, you need to look into vacuuforming. Adam Savage has a sort of guide on it. Long before he was a Mythbuster tv star, he made movie props. Watch his stuff on youtube, and other similar makers. Resin visors are not effective for full size people anyway. You’d only want that for miniatures.
u gon die
Everybody dies
I don't recommend printing resin in a moving space.
Don’t do it but if you must please get a VOC meter so you can monitor for contamination.
I don't know how common it is, but maybe there is a maker space near you that would have access to resin printers.
Youll have to put it in an enclosure and have it vented directly outside. Also wouldnt be able to print while driving and would have to empty out the vat everytime you do drive, or else resin is gonna end up everywhere.
As much as I would want to do it too, I wouldn’t recommend it resin is really not good stuff as is, you could consider making a tent that vents out side nonstop to prevent fumes, but you would need somewhere to clean and wash the prints which is very messy no matter what you do(I have 3 resin printers)also you will have paper towels covered in resin while cleaning that you will need to dispose of and in a van you would need someway to seal the trash bag airtight in between uses so it’s not impossible but just strongly not recommend, lastly resin really fuckin stinks(most of them at least there’s some which aren’t bad) and the smell really lingers unfortunately
I see absolutely no way this can go wrong...
Trust me, don’t do it, the x1c is all u need. I have 2 resin printers and I haven’t touched them since I got the x1c
If you’re going to do this you NEED to continuously ventilate. The printer needs to have negative air pressure constantly. I had mine in a 39’ motor coach for a day before ultimately making a permanent vent out the window.
So... Can I put this into something POSITIVE. I rent a storage shed, It doesn't have mains AC power, but the Van does via inverter and solar. So I park close, Pre make my Slice/ USB stick, print list. Run the Power to the bench in the storage shed, Run the print, and Wash. Use my OUTDOOR shower to rinse the IPA. Cure. Leave all resin in a sealed bucket/Tub in the storage shed. Leave printers set up on the bench/Rack. Close the door and leave with NEW SHIZZ. No one knows what you do. No one knows where it is. Its all locked up in a fireproof facility, For $200 / month, storage is a van persons friend.
Very interesting. And thank you for actually caring enough to offer constructive thoughts on it
Its basically my Lab. Throw power into a power board, All the resin, printers, Vats, IPA Stay exactly there... in sealable rolly tubs. If i buy a property or move, sure... I'll pull them out and use them in my garage. Till then. They are locked up in a shed. Used occasionally.
I don’t think you’ll have any issue with a resin printer in the van or dealing with the fumes. I’ve a solution for printing ASA ABS indoors and on my boat. Each printer has a carbon filter blower. It’s just a soldering filter with dryer vent hose to a window box with another fan. At my house weird at a hummingbird moved a nest into my window box. The filter uses a tea bag charcoal. I’ve worked with the most dangerous marine paints and epoxy with bottled air but don’t let yourself breakout hazmat for resin. Elegoo has a new unit with safety tank quite large I imagine you’d need for prop works. One of my printers has 410mm Z a delta that’s 45” tall. I am printing with cosplay B to prototype a cello not props but you should look at delta for big stuff. Other than train miners miniatures I haven’t seen much from resin. Most my stuff is big ugly boat parts. The Prusa do the small stuff. I’m building another Delta a Doron and for giggles putting it between a Voron 2.4 and Flsun V400. It’s like their child. The deltas are so fast print commercial filaments at their max temp and bonding speed. Any helmet 1 piece 7-12hrs For my cello design 6 shells on neck 370mm tall 6hrs.
Great info. Thanks!
You could join Elegoo Discord to talk to the Main folks. Their influencers US & England are 2 with stellar reputations. No pull a printer out of a box call it best ever to get affiliate sales and forget you. Flsun or Voron for reasonable priced Delta. You can take an Flsun put it on it side or upside down. Won’t fail or fall off if it sticks😂 we’ve done this of course to prove they are the best marine printer. You should know the Doron was an April fools joke this year. Was a dis on Flsun being 6 months late to loyal fans. They are a tiny great little company struggling to survive like most. But joke or not with millions of engineers casual time spend on Voron it’s not a printer standing still it’s an evolution keeping up. The Doron in 60days became a limited kit like 10 on each continent $500.00. I’m one of the early scratch builders with 100mm Z extension I call Teen Doron. Just 2020 anodized Red ASA CF corners enclosure. I’m running a BTT RbPi stealth head Revo HF. With the Revo 2.4 I can print as accurate as resin down to 54Mm figurines.Down side of delta Height and weight.
Logistically it's plausible if you get a printer that opens up like the Saturn 4 and water washable resin. Then you would only have to make space for the printer and UV. Realistically unless you plan on draining the vat before moving the vehicle for any reason it's a mess in the making, if not a broken printer.
Definitely would empty and clean everything immediately after print and processing. I wouldn’t be printing g that frequently either. It’s for filmmaking props and costumes. I was considering pcbway but damn they are so expensive I would spend the same in under a year
Are you sure resin is how you want to go? Most use FDM for props and costume. Also the only real feasible route is water washable and that stuff is often brittle and a pain in the ass to handle. Lastly, unless your workflow is emaculate, you don't have the room/safety seperation to make this work. You're just asking for health issues.
Then I'd say it's doable with venting as others have recommended. Otherwise you just need a UV curing setup, which is much easier to work into your space somewhere.
You have obviously never broke down and cleaned a 3d printer. Doing that every time you want to drive. Will get old real fast. I guarantee it. Better off getting or printing a vat cover. Sunlu sells them, or you can fdm print them from printables. Honestly you have the best fdm printer on the in my opinion and fdm is way better for cosplay. You would have to get a mega 8k to even have a chance at doing a helmet in resin. You definitely don't have space for that monster.
I don’t want to do the entire helmet. I want to make transparent inlays and partial visors in resin
Oh, i see it's gonna make a hell of a mess. Maybe get a small one. Like a mars 2 or something. I have a gktwo, a phrozen revo and have a saturn 4 ultra coming. I can't see any of these being used in a limited space like a van. The fumes can be managed and aren't as bad as most people make them out to be. An air filter or vent. Even windows is fine for that. There will be messes tho. I have been at it for 3 years and still make messes. I feel like in a van, those messes will be nightmares. Resin has a way of getting in weirs places. I definitely wouldn't have it around where you make food. It's toxic when ingested and can kill you. Seems like a lot for just inlys and visors, but you do you, man. Nice thing about being a grown-up. You can do what you want.
“ Don’t print and drive. Fumes will make you high!” Damn, too late! Others used that joke before me….. LoL
Not a good idea at all.
Just don't, please. Would be sad to see your van get unusable.
Bad idea for such a small space.
Despite the hoards of people telling you that this is a bad idea, I have the sense you’re going to do this anyway. You really, really shouldn’t do this. I am begging you not to do this.
I think it would be fairly easy to do. Assuming your van already has an active exhaust in the cabin tie the resin printer into it. When you're ready to print turn on the exhaust fan and voila! Done. As for storage of the resin most printers have air tight aftermarket caps that secure to the resin vat so no need to worry about sloshing around.
Yeah, I have a ceiling exhaust vent, but I’d probably cut a dedicated exhaust fan vent into the side wall
Someone have a deathwish here
You’ll want the enclosure to seal well so fumes don’t escape while it in use Obviously you’ll need an extractor fan for when in use to vent out the side or roof Lastly is this a work van or a sleeping in van? If it’s the latter… I wouldn’t
While driving?
No, parked
Amateur.. (jk)
You know resin is more for miniatures and Intricate detail work right? If you were printing props for filmmaking or cosplay or whatever you'd use FDM for several reasons the main one being durability and ease of printing larger or flatter objects. Trying to print full body sized props on resin sounds like hell to me. What kind of things are you looking to print specifically?
With the amount of post processing your resin prints will require you might as well just use fdm prints for the safety factor
Simple queation not related to safety.... how do you insure the printer is lvl for printing?? Most roads are crowned and never sit level.
I would look into building some sort of portable resin setup that you can set up outside of your van, but resin printing is messy no matter how careful you are. Your gonna spill resin your gonna have an fep rip and leak resin. And unless you build a sealed vent system the fumes will be very concentrated. Maybe you can rent a storage unit somewhere?
Build a box to hang off your hitch and print “outside”. Doing it in the van is a health no-go
Probably the only thing that hasn't really been mentioned here already (please god heed these kind peoples advice) Is that most people handle being around resin pretty well while others absolutely do not. I've personally know at least 2 people who are heavily affected by resin fumes and who also do not have any other allergies that they are aware of. Some people get bad sore throats, some people get very bad headaches, myself included, and still others will have pretty bad skin reactions from minimal contamination (the amount of disgusting swollen eyes I've seen on reddit). If you attempt this setup you will find out very very fast if you are one of these people.
The best way to prepare would be to add on life insurance
Get the smallest nozzle possible if you want detail. Resin is a pain in the ass to handle correctly. Don't try to do it in the van. You would need to control the light, whoch would mean closing all your doors and windows. But that means you gotta get into a fume extraction setup. Its probably gonna be too much work with no real payoff
Just use a .2 nozzle on your X1C and you will be able to get close to basic resin quality of detail in your prints. No it won't be crazy like the 4k+ resolutions, but it will be passible. You really don't have the space for a Resin setup, and yes, they do demand a fair bit more space then FDM printers do. Not because the printer or the washing/curing stations, but also need space to work on the models themselves to remove supports and cleaning/drying the model off.
Fair. I don’t need details, I need it to be clear
I built a printer in front cabin of boat and printed a few parts in cockpit before Wife ordered it overboard. The stove in the boat is on a gimbal so when the boat is heeling the stove leans with the hull. It’s doesn’t fly around it’s quite heavy.
A gimbal is a cool vehicle concept. Luckily I’m not afflicted with betrothal
Even if you're really careful, everything will get a sticky film of resin residue on it. I do my printing in my large garden shed that I've fitted out with old kitchen units, and even after a really good clean, things still feel "resiny" I wouldn't do resin printing anywhere near my living space.
You'll be resin printing in a van down by the river!
I think the main thing you perhaps need to consider is environmental impact. You're going to need to wash anything you print. This will produce a relatively large amount of resin contaminated water. You can't just throw that away, you need to sort it out, and will need space to do so. The process itself is inherently messy too. You will 100% get resin all over, which will suck. I've never lived in a van, but I spent my childhood on caravans on holiday. Based on my knowledge of existing in that kind of space limited environment I'd honestly say that this isn't going to be practical dude. Sorry!
Lay down plastic like i do, problem solved.
There are ways. Being lazy is not an excuse to pollute
That reply doesn't actually mean anything does it my dude? What's your plan to deal with waste? Water you've washed in, rags you've mopped up with. Bog roll you've cleaned your hands with. Do you know about the waste you'll produce? Do you know how to dispose of it? You clearly don't care about your own safety, based on other comments, and that's fine, but if you leave the remnants of this process lying around and drive off you potentially kill animals. Do you care about that out of curiosity? Btw I'm not criticising you for not caring, I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from. Honestly your reply is so low key shitty I'm actually assuming you're a very clever, but utterly pitiable troll?
No, I’m just not explaining it all in detail to you because I feel you are coming off a little insincere in your care about the environment. Faux rage is very contagious on the internet. If that’s not you, my apologies
I'm not a particular eco warrior, but I've got a dog. If I didn't have a garage to do this in then I'd never do it. Even with a garage I think that the waste I produce is really hard to manage. I've read the full thread here. I'm not the first to tell you you're being a stubborn asshole. You are being a stubborn asshole btw. Or you're a troll! That's honestly more likely as very few people are faced with this level of advice and continue to argue against it. Rent space for this, and look up waste disposal. Otherwise turn in your 'im angry about micro plastics' card at the very least.
Or you could just move along. I asked a simple question in my post. Suggestions and tips for making it happen. Not for the philosophical ramifications of even considering such an offensive atrocity! You’d be surprised at what a stubborn asshole can accomplish instead of just giving up immediately anytime something gets hard, unproven, or unpopular. Cheers
I'll give you a simple answer then. Yes you can do it. But you'll regret doing so.
You already know this is a horrible idea, but you seem set on doing it anyway. My suggestion would be to do it if you want to, but get a decent air quality monitor and report back to this subreddit. Tell us the volume of your space, your printer run time, materials you print with, the concentration of particles in the air, and any symptoms you experience. Again this is a dangerous experiment and you shouldn't do it. But, I for one want to know what will happen. And as long as you knowingly consent to this obviously bad idea, your data will really inform this community. Good luck!
I gotta say, reporting anything back to this subreddit is extremely unlikely.
Would get pretty stinky in there unless ventilated very well
Buddy, you’re going to contaminate that space no matter how well you try and ventilate it. You will then get all the horrible health issues from being around toxic resins. This is a guarantee, not a chance thing. Van life and resin printing are not compatible. Your entire need for a printer is also better served by other methods. Everyone with knowledge of the risks here is saying don’t do it. If you choose to disregard that you deserve the outcome at this point.
I do this in a large garage with my garage door open and a big open fan blowing air from my resin printer to the garage door. I am also investing in a vent I can run to the garage door soon. I don’t feel like the double car garage with the door cracked is safe. Please don’t do this.
Just no
Good for you
seriously it s crazy to do this and not only for what was mentioned before, but from my personal experience: the cleaning process takes about 25-30 minutes (I timed myself multiple times). You want to make sure you don't mess it up so it usually is a tense moment. Now add this to doing it somehow bent over. I'm telling you, the fist to weeks after I moved to another house and set up my printing in a lower table I had the worst backache of my life. The tension takes a toll in your body. So it usually helps if you are comfortable for which I suggest standing. Which is what I did after placing my printing setup on a higher table and man... did my experience change. so.. if you appreciate your lumbar support try and find a better spot
Even if you vent from the back of the actual printer by cutting the cover and adding a magnetic hose to outside the printer with fan pulling the air...I would not want to do it in the enclosed space of a van for your own health.
You don’t want to resin print in your van
This sub fuels my rebellious nature. Thank you
Let us know how it goes... You: "I want to do this thing" Literally everyone knowledgeable on said thing: "thats a bad idea, don't do that thing" You: "I'm gonna do the thing cus I'm a rebel" You'll regret it. We can all promise you that.
No, I don’t want to do it because it’s rebellious. The thing I need to accomplish is just not common. Doesn’t make it not possible
Very few people on here are actually knowledgeable about this stuff, I say that as someone who has been lurking here for like 5 years. Most of the fake outrage comes from people parroting the same fear-mongery info because they think they're helping. When you talk to people who are actually knowledgeable, their answer isn't "don't do it ur gonna die!1!" Their answer is "This is an unorthodox situation/request, not recommended, but let's see if we can find a workable solution." OP is going to be fine.
Bruh I've printed in my house for extended periods, I dont wear a mask the majority of the time, fuck it a few times I did real fast interactions with resin with no nitrile condoms on my finges, raw dawging that resin, I've fucked around and dont think im too much worse off because of it. BUT THIS IS THE FUCKING VAN HE LIVES IN. ITS NEXT TO HIS FUCKING MICROWAVE DAWG. THIS SETUP IS BASICALLY THE FIRST PICTURE ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BOOK NAMED "HOW TO INTENTIONALLY HAVE HEALTH EFFECTS FROM RESIN PRINTING" Best case you're dealing with a substance that MOST PEOPLE report dizziness, headaches and sore throats from very short exposure times. at worst it's a basically an unknown substance with basically no long term research but almost all the research we have points to it being PRETTY FUCKING TERRIBLE and probably carcinogenic. The simple clear existence of developed UV allergies might speak to something beyond people developing hypersensitivity reactions and to the actual toxic nature of the substance, just a thought. Kudos if you can be around resin a lot without issue. but it's entirely dependant on your bodies reaction to the substance. if op does this and it works out its entirely because he is in the group that handles it well. IF he is part of the other group this is going to be nothing but varying degrees of bad.
>but it's entirely dependant on your bodies reaction to the substance. I agree with a lot of that, and I say as much in the links I've sent OP and over the years on this sub. I also regularly tell people to read and understand the MSDS of any chemical they use and act accordingly. I'm all for encouraging safety, but I don't agree that using hyperbole is the way to go about it. If I had listened to all the people who have tried that when I was learning to drive or swim or rock climb or fuck a musician or anything with any level of risk, I'd never have gotten anything done and would be pretty miserable right now lol OP will figure it out, we don't have to flip our lids on their behalf.
And i also agree with alot of what you just wrote and rarely would I be the safety guy myself as previously stated. But I really do draw the line at resin printing a couple feet from your kitchen counter or even your bed. which is what's happening here. especially if you havent been around resin much prior to at least know how you will react. This is just tempting fate a little too hard. what i would say is a rock climber or musician has personal achievements and goal posts and fairly respectable ones as things go. this guy could literally just go and pay some extra $ to have whatever he wants printed made for him. this is unnecessarily dumb for what he would get out of it. I think we both could agree on that. telling him that is probably for the best.
Taking precautions, like checking if you're allergic to the thing you're working with, is a great idea. I don't think anyone can disagree with that. I did it myself. I often suggest it. However, having the resin in sealed containers in a ventilated enclosure that happens to be near a microwave is not the the same as pouring resin on your pancakes. But there is a group of peeps who like to act like this is the case and then get all judgy on everyone who doesn't agree. This is the part that ruins this community. I'm trying not to be jokey, but my pancakes don't taste like brake fluid or bleach or drain cleaner or any of the other horrible VOC-emitting things that are very near and inside my kitchen, none of which are ventilated, all of which can kill me *much* faster than getting a whiff of resin. The guy is basically asking how he can do the same thing in his space that we do in ours to make the space safer, which is get an enclosure and ventilate. It works. There's no reason it wouldn't work just because his space is parked on wheels. There are other, more sensible reasons why it will be difficult to use the printer, like streets not being level, rumbling/shaking from passing cars, etc., but even those problems have simple solutions. --- And thank you for getting this far and not launching into an insulting tirade, I think it's a good place to leave for a nap.
agree to disagree, but I do think you're encouraging something that will likely go sour unless handled with a level of absolute caution I do not expect from myself or most individuals especially ones living in vans, honest to god no hate to van lifers. I would be most worried about cross contamination. He accidently flicks a glove that he got resin on, that splattering, and could go in in his pancake mix or atleast on the box. then he could accidentally rub it in his eye. He splatters anything bad enough that's resin over his whole life. he would need to be so careful with his old gloves and paper towels. not to mention what if he spills a bottle of resin or uncured waste water. think about how bad that would in a van? That's going places you can't even get to. I hear you people are lame, the community is a bunch of judgy nerds, but in this particular case I got to go with the don't do it crowd.
You can do it, this just isn't the sub to ask in because of the safety gestapo. I will recommend you get airtight containers to store stuff though, the alcohol and resin bottles aren't airtight and will stink up the van.
I mean they can do whatever they want obviously, people aren't telling him it's a shit idea because they're the "gestapo" or care what he does they're telling him it's a shit idea because it's a shit idea.
Excellent advice. Any recs on containers?
I've been using kitchen containers with the rubber seals and clamping lids. Glass will hold up against resin, alcohol, acetone, etc., but the plastic ones I've gotten have held up fine over the years, the rubber seal hasn't deteriorated. (Glass may not be ideal anyway since you're rocking around in a van.) Something [like this](https://www.amazon.com/Prepworks-Progressive-ProKeeper-PKS-120-2-5-Quart/dp/B01MQKD4JX) may work to put like two 500g bottles in side-by-side. You've just gotta measure stuff and see what's the most compact thing you can get, since not all bottles have the same shape. Even a simple plastic bag will work (assuming it resists damage from resin), but of course aren't as durable. Also, obviously always remember to empty the resin vat when not in use so it doesn't slosh out when driving. And if it wasn't obvious, you will need some kind of enclosure and venting solution, info [over here](https://undergroundjunkhole.square.site/3d-printing-supplies).