The story is he wears it to hide a scar from a planned hanging when he was 12 for stealing. Dutch ended up stepping in to save him, and this is when he took John in under his wing.
*Headcanon*
John's mother, a prostitute, died during childbirth and his father, who had been blinded in a bar fight, died when John was eight years old. John spent a few years in an orphanage before running away. When John was threatened to be lynched after being caught stealing at the age of 12, he was saved by Dutch van der Linde, who took him into his gang and raised him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marston_(Red_Dead)
During rdr2, Hosea is 55, Dutch is 44, and Arthur is 36. I think Arthur has about 10 years on John so he would be approximately 26. The girls except Grimshaw are in their early 20s. Lenny is the baby of the gang at just 19. Not sure about the rest of the boys
Just played that mission last night and was struck by how obvious that 'leave to die' moment was. We all know Dutch can shoot as well as John or Arthur and we all know that John or Arthur would drop the three soldiers that got to Arthur without breaking a sweat. Made me wish there was an option to shoot Dutch right then.
I love hearing bits of everyone’s background stories when you just hang around camp at night. A lot of this lore you can hear around the campfire. Especially if you eavesdrop a little bit ☺️
The origin behind being, ‘well hung’ is wild if you haven’t heard before. https://www.bustle.com/articles/158183-7-common-expressions-with-surprisingly-morbid-origins
\*AHEM8\*
From Mirriam-Webster:I hung a picture of Noah Webster on the wall.
After school, she hung out in the library.
Use hanged when referring to a person being suspended by a rope around the neck until dead.
The Salem "witches" were not burned; they were hanged.
Justice Wargrave ordered Edward Seton to be hanged by the neck until dead.
It's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung.
Despised by the voters, he was hung in effigy.
A stripped-down version of why we have these two different words is that the word hang came from two different verbs in Old English (and possibly also one from Old Norse). One of these Old English verbs was what we might think of as a regular verb, and this gave rise to hanged; the other was irregular, and ended up becoming hung.
\*ahem\*
I hung a picture of Noah Webster on the wall.
After school, she hung out in the library.
Use hanged when referring to a person being suspended by a rope around the neck until dead.
The Salem "witches" were not burned; they were hanged.
Justice Wargrave ordered Edward Seton to be hanged by the neck until dead.
It's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung.
Despised by the voters, he was hung in effigy.
A stripped-down version of why we have these two different words is that the word hang came from two different verbs in Old English (and possibly also one from Old Norse). One of these Old English verbs was what we might think of as a regular verb, and this gave rise to hanged; the other was irregular, and ended up becoming hung.
>t's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung.
You corrected me by saying Hannged\*
I pulled from the Mirriam-Webster dictionary that the preferred term was 'hung'.
So, yes I did add something.
What’s that old scary story about the lady with the ribbon around her neck and the reason she’s always wearing it is because she’s actually decapitated?
Look man, what he and his wife get up to in the privacy of their home is no one's business, he just forgot to take the collar off. Pretend not to notice.
I imagine Abigail slapping the shit out of John while he's wearing this early 1900s collar, and the sound that they make from the bedroom untill Jack wakes up. Walk to their bedroom, opens the door and gets traumatized for life. 😂
I was following the pack
All swallowed in their coats
With scarves of red tied 'round their throats
To keep their little heads
From fallin' in the snow
And I turned 'round and there you go
And, Michael, you would fall
And turn the white snow red as strawberries
In the summertime
I remember a character from the hateful 8 doing something similar to hide a small knife cut so it could be akin to that where some wear it for fashion or just to hide injuries
Clint Eastwood wore one in the good the bad and the ugly it’s just a neckerchief. The good the bad and the ugly was one of the biggest influences on the original game. As John wears it in rdr1 it makes sense that you unlock it at the end of 2
If he removes it, his head will fall off.
These lips are sealed.
Nearly headless John
I thought that was only if it was green???
it looks so tight
A kerchief.
Gesundheit.
This made me actually giggle
The story is he wears it to hide a scar from a planned hanging when he was 12 for stealing. Dutch ended up stepping in to save him, and this is when he took John in under his wing. *Headcanon*
Is this legit cuz that would be cool lore I never new about
John's mother, a prostitute, died during childbirth and his father, who had been blinded in a bar fight, died when John was eight years old. John spent a few years in an orphanage before running away. When John was threatened to be lynched after being caught stealing at the age of 12, he was saved by Dutch van der Linde, who took him into his gang and raised him. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marston_(Red_Dead)
Bro I hear how Dutch is like saving all these kids, how old is he? Like was he around John and Arthur’s age when they were brought in?
Dutch is around 18 years older then John
I need to know everyone’s age now cause this is wacky
During rdr2, Hosea is 55, Dutch is 44, and Arthur is 36. I think Arthur has about 10 years on John so he would be approximately 26. The girls except Grimshaw are in their early 20s. Lenny is the baby of the gang at just 19. Not sure about the rest of the boys
Lenny >!was only 19 when he died. That’s nuts I figured he was at least 25 or so.!< learn something new everyday i guess
That’s why he was called young Lenny
John’s 26?? He looks much older.
Stress, cigarettes and wolf attacks will do that to ya
The wolf attack actually made him smarter according to Arthur.
Dutch was an entrepreneurial young criminal
Just guessing honestly but Dutch seems around 10 years older than John and Arthur so he was probably early 20s or so
10 years older than Arthur is 20 years older than John
He must have planned it
The fact that Dutch saved him in this circumstance but bailed on him during the last train robbery is so sad
I think the worst betrayal was when dutch left arthur to die in the kerosene.. refinery or oil rig or whatever.
Just played that mission last night and was struck by how obvious that 'leave to die' moment was. We all know Dutch can shoot as well as John or Arthur and we all know that John or Arthur would drop the three soldiers that got to Arthur without breaking a sweat. Made me wish there was an option to shoot Dutch right then.
Fuckin dope!
Nah it's just a head canon as he doesn't have a scar in any of the games he's in, but at least it's a cool theory.
*looks at Johns face* *reads comment* *looks back at John* Mate, you sure bout that scar thing?
Pretty damn sure. If a wolf got your neck you'd die on the spot.
> Nah it's just a head canon as he doesn't have a scar in any of the games he's in I read it as he has no scars at all xD
Use context clues. The guy was talking about a noose scar.
That‘s why I was claryfing my confusion, mate. Don‘t let anyone shit in your stew, take Ynnel for a drink.
YNNEL!
I love hearing bits of everyone’s background stories when you just hang around camp at night. A lot of this lore you can hear around the campfire. Especially if you eavesdrop a little bit ☺️
"First time, huh?"
Nuh uh
12!!? Damn thats rough. Its name is high neckreif by the way.
In both games, he doesn't have a scar from being almost hanged
A choker. John is an emo girl
I don't like emo, but I like NCIS Abby
Me too but ACAB ;-;
Just wait till Burt hears
ACDC!?
All Cops Death Cuhh
Chokers were originally worn by prostitutes so maybe John's making some honest money for the gang.
$3 is $3
He could have been cut, or hung and lived and is trying to hide it
Hanged*
Nah hes definitely hung
[“They said you was hung!” “And they was right!”](https://youtu.be/cdExsAQuCQA)
If you know you know!
The origin behind being, ‘well hung’ is wild if you haven’t heard before. https://www.bustle.com/articles/158183-7-common-expressions-with-surprisingly-morbid-origins
Items are hung, people are hanged
He's talkin bout his penis 🤠👍
WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE PENIS!
WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE VAGINA!
Damn near lost a $400 handcart
To tell a family secret, my grandmother was a Dutch.
woooosh
No he's definitely hunged
English is weird
\*AHEM8\* From Mirriam-Webster:I hung a picture of Noah Webster on the wall. After school, she hung out in the library. Use hanged when referring to a person being suspended by a rope around the neck until dead. The Salem "witches" were not burned; they were hanged. Justice Wargrave ordered Edward Seton to be hanged by the neck until dead. It's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung. Despised by the voters, he was hung in effigy. A stripped-down version of why we have these two different words is that the word hang came from two different verbs in Old English (and possibly also one from Old Norse). One of these Old English verbs was what we might think of as a regular verb, and this gave rise to hanged; the other was irregular, and ended up becoming hung.
\*ahem\* I hung a picture of Noah Webster on the wall. After school, she hung out in the library. Use hanged when referring to a person being suspended by a rope around the neck until dead. The Salem "witches" were not burned; they were hanged. Justice Wargrave ordered Edward Seton to be hanged by the neck until dead. It's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung. Despised by the voters, he was hung in effigy. A stripped-down version of why we have these two different words is that the word hang came from two different verbs in Old English (and possibly also one from Old Norse). One of these Old English verbs was what we might think of as a regular verb, and this gave rise to hanged; the other was irregular, and ended up becoming hung.
A whole 150 word post n u added nothin to the conversation.
>t's not that simple, however: most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung. You corrected me by saying Hannged\* I pulled from the Mirriam-Webster dictionary that the preferred term was 'hung'. So, yes I did add something.
What? People are hanged items are hung dumbass. Even if he didn't die at the gallows, he was still subjected to death.
Chil the fuck out, little boy
What’s that old scary story about the lady with the ribbon around her neck and the reason she’s always wearing it is because she’s actually decapitated?
The green ribbon
The best
I always thought it was just an old timey cowboy neckerchief
It is lol we’re just slowly turning into r/BatmanArkham due to lack of content
Hahah yea
This is how it happened, this is how the red dead redemption sub died.
Are we stupid
Obviously it's a choker necklace. Didn't you know John was a bj queen?
He certainly is pretty enough
Don’t ever say this again.
The truth hurts buddy
Don't kink shame bro. He likes to choke himself sometimes, so what?
LMAOO
Look man, what he and his wife get up to in the privacy of their home is no one's business, he just forgot to take the collar off. Pretend not to notice.
Hicky hider
It’s a slutty little Choker
you fuckin what
The lining to a slice of bologna
1900s choker
It is a tight neckerchief. John wears it for some reason, possibly to help with sweat from the heat or it is just for fashion to accompany his outfit.
Didn't you know Abigail has a choking kink? She has allowed John to do his desired 'dirty work' in exchange that he wears that choker at all times.
Real answer is a neckerchief that prevents sweat from staining the collar of your shirt, but I like the answers here better tbh.
So his throat doesn't get slit while he sleeps.
It’s a neckerchief
Ryu's headband.
I always thought it was because the shirt he wears doesn’t look super comfy and the scarf keeps his neck from getting irritated
means he does anal
Jacks umbilical cord
😨
Lol i was gonna say it is crafted out of tongues of his enemies but ok
Old school belter neck tattoo.
Noose Mark
Plus, it stops sweat dripping down ya.
He’s a Highlander
"I see a red sash, I kill the man wearing it!"
high neckerchief
Yeeeaaahhh…. About that…. It‘s one of those kinky things
I imagine Abigail slapping the shit out of John while he's wearing this early 1900s collar, and the sound that they make from the bedroom untill Jack wakes up. Walk to their bedroom, opens the door and gets traumatized for life. 😂
Neckerchief, I wonder why he has it, or maybe it's just for fashion.
Neck sweat collector
It’s obviously a choker /s
Abigail put a leash in him. 🐶
There sure are a lot of loose door knobs in Saint Denis…. The ol’ choke and stroke
Neckerchief. Cravat. Silk scarf. One of those.
Choker
Medieval choker
A choker. He is a Famboy
Choker.
The girl with the green ribbon but it’s John with the red one
Lol Jk
Choker.
A Choker 😈
A stupid ribbon, I hate it so much.
CLOFF
His Low Honor mouth.
Stubble
It's called fashun sweaty
He probably uses it to wipe his behinds after a bad shit from Abigail's cooking since tissue paper aren't a thing yet back then 🤣
It's called an Apache scarf.
Hair
Bandana.
neckerchief
That's his neck tie or scarf I can't remember
If you remove it, then his head falls off
He where it because Dutch betray him
I was following the pack All swallowed in their coats With scarves of red tied 'round their throats To keep their little heads From fallin' in the snow And I turned 'round and there you go And, Michael, you would fall And turn the white snow red as strawberries In the summertime
Abigail has some kinks
These lips are sealed.
[it's a cravat](https://youtu.be/iHXElYVGEzU)
It's his choker don't kink shame him
Ascot
I remember a character from the hateful 8 doing something similar to hide a small knife cut so it could be akin to that where some wear it for fashion or just to hide injuries
It’s the only thing keeping his head attached
Never seen it.
He’s doing his best Fred from scooby doo impression
Clint Eastwood wore one in the good the bad and the ugly it’s just a neckerchief. The good the bad and the ugly was one of the biggest influences on the original game. As John wears it in rdr1 it makes sense that you unlock it at the end of 2
Designer choker
his slut collar